Episode 100

FCG100 - An Incredible Year (feat. Cast of Regulars)

What a pleasure it has been. 100 Episodes with some amazing guests. A year ago I set out to “get the word out”, to tell the rest of the industry about this amazing tool that I had found and frankly really fallen in love with. Yea, it had some sort comings but the strengths completely outweighed the problems and I just wanted people to hear that message. However something else happened. Where as I WANTED to tell everyone what I knew, instead found that I learned from each and every guest that I had on the show. The FCPX community of editors is amazing, their knowledge and experience is varied and each and every episode I took away tid bits of knowledge that made me a better editor. My hope is that you can do the same thing. The Grill has been an amazing experience and although I doubt I’ll have ANOTHER 100 episodes a year from now to share I KNOW there will be at least 1 a week. So enjoy this celebration and enjoy the camaraderie… Welcome to The Grill.

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00:00.001: It's not the greatest audio.

00:00.001: So, I'm just going to record them, put them out there, and see how it goes.

00:00.001: And I heard I had some reasoned people like listen to my reasonings.

00:00.080: 'cause the problem if it's not working on the video and just making our UI look good, that's not actually good news.

00:00.080: the twenty seventeen iMac as if it was the previous year's iMac.

00:00.160: Go check it out.

00:00.160: you're just going to get the audio.

00:00.160: Alex McLean, the other Alex, who's back from his professional gallivanting around the globe.

00:00.160: Let's try that again.

00:00.160: Talk to in terms of it getting that much better, but anyway, that was my incredibly interesting and yeah

00:00.160: a native Final Cut ten XML.

00:00.160: Because it let me see my projects in a different way.

00:00.160: MP4 and put that in box because we sync up with the uh networks enterprise box uh account.

00:00.160: So now when people ask me a qu like when I see a post on Creative Cal, you know, and Bill's always nice to answer those guys, but I'll see it and they'll be like, I'm working on ten 09

00:00.160: AAC audio and give up because you're never going to make it look like we make it look because everyone at your industry that's on Avid is going to be like, Vimeo is such a pain

00:00.160: I mean, the Resolve integration is way better than it was.

00:00.160: It's useful because the the developer created that, but unfortunately I don't know enough about Enuke to understand whether a stand-alone app?

00:00.160: and GoPros and whatever, and they shot some stuff out in their stores and they just want to see this put together in something.

00:00.160: where I was constantly told that these people keep coming in and the audience for the magazine turns over in about three years.

00:00.160: I got a phone call from a CEO, and he was just insanely happy.

00:00.160: and they've never seen themselves out there in the world doing things in their stores.

00:00.160: case in point, I started a music video tomorrow on Final Cut Pro 7, which I'm not terribly excited about, but you know, that was the uh that's what they wanted to use.

00:00.160: shitty attitude toward it, but usually it's still people who don't know and haven't tried it or they've like looked at it once.

00:00.160: cut any more since one probably earlier this year.

00:00.160: it it all comes out in the wash.

00:00.160: You're right, it's just that it works this way in this particular tool.

00:00.160: Yeah, I don't like it for music videos, a couple reasons.

00:00.160: from a performance take.

00:00.160: you know, one button, I hit it twenty five times, I see twenty five angles.

00:00.160: is the fact I if I have three clips stacked up in the time line, there's no way to take those three clips and say, all right, make these three clips into an audition.

00:00.160: was the fact that I could go through and I could limit my view to and we had four live cameras and then a whole bunch of GoPros and a whole bunch of DSLRs scattered through the band.

00:00.160: And you do that four times, and you have what I thought was the best possible cut based on that that I can get out of all my tracks.

00:00.160: you know, eight cameras shooting the show two different times.

00:00.160: So you really want to watch them one at a time because you doing a live switch of I can't watch more than four at a time and really think I've seen everything.

00:00.160: is what makes you know it makes this music video setup really, really amazing.

00:00.160: and various things be a part of a single multicam.

00:00.160: what's in my opinion is as good as what's in Final Cut ten at this point.

00:00.160: and you couldn't possibly work without it.

00:00.160: Because I could do a four-piece cello quartet.

00:00.160: I mean, you can tell me the Final Cut 7 tomorrow.

00:00.160: Of copies are far, far away with lots of clouds on top all at 5k, so it takes would normally take about two minutes to render on a reasonable machine from a couple of years ago.

00:00.160: a Res X or something like that, do a search and you can set the screen resolution to if you set it to two five six zero by fourteen forty when you render out

00:00.160: Chris Fenwick used was to uh make it so, okay, what's the what's the most pixels, Mr.

00:00.160: The first one I've seen, thirty one inches desktop, one thousand nineteen hundred bucks.

00:00.160: Match frame back into the keyword collection that it came from.

00:00.160: Timeline that's been in there, and there's 9 million used rain sections.

00:00.160: in that list will be really useful.

00:00.160: On the timeline.

00:00.160: seven to be able to merge those back together also.

00:00.160: you're going to have all of your editors with one relink like files.

00:00.160: Footage outside of that directory so that you have that directory structure no matter what you do.

00:00.160: or iCloud Drive or whatever the hell it's called now, share just only a timeline all by itself to there that the editor could then grab and quickly bring in that would just boom link up to that media, knowing we have the exact same duplicate media.

00:00.160: a timeline when you know you have duplicate media on another URL.

00:00.160: So I hope they do that.

00:00.160: Steve, use that.

00:00.160: I just got it to kind of test it.

00:00.160: Because it it's so cool getting those downloads on libset.

00:00.160: The the professional File Cup Pro isn't necessarily professional video editor, but it can be professional edit video editor.

00:00.160: A couple of edit houses are doing offline File Cut editing.

00:00.160: You know, I will say right now.

00:00.160: Step out publicly and give us some insane tutorials.

00:00.160: Anyway, who's going to arrange the grill lunch at NAB?

00:00.160: Okay, so here's what we're doing.

00:00.240: I also want to say before we get into the proper show, and I did this sort of because I don't think they allow you to have advertisements on the Google Plus.

00:00.240: But I just want to thank the guys at Premium B for supporting what we're doing.

00:00.240: It was very exhilarating.

00:00.240: and being so generous with all of the ways that you support us at DCC and on the Grill.

00:00.240: I listened to the first few minutes of episode one, kind of a walk down memory lane.

00:00.240: Today, we're sitting down with a panel of participants.

00:00.240: So, this I am doing this on my iPhone.

00:00.240: Valencia, close enough.

00:00.240: In the last year, the last twelve months, what has what has how has your perception of Final Cut X changed, evolved, improved or devolved, if that be the case?

00:00.240: it hasn't changed that much.

00:00.240: because the healthy and interesting stuff that's better for you is on the outside of the store.

00:00.240: Yeah, absolutely.

00:00.240: Is harder to restock.

00:00.240: Let me get back to Tim.

00:00.240: And it it never bothered me from day one.

00:00.240: and the ability to set up instant shares and do one click sharing out to Vimeo for client reviews and stuff like that.

00:00.240: our company kind of started as we've sort of laid the seeds for more than just me working out of my house.

00:00.240: Mavericks, I'm like that's like two months ago, bruh.

00:00.240: What you should do is you should just take screen grabs of your Final Cut 10 menus and say, here, just tell them to match this.

00:00.240: It's I think becoming more accepted.

00:00.240: Now that I'm married at least So Sam Messman has joined us late to the party, actually just perfectly on time.

00:00.240: I don't know.

00:00.240: of writing apps that work with Final Cut.

00:00.240: So let's not spend money on nuke.

00:00.240: from Final Cut Pro ten to things like After Effects, which is a bit of a strange thing to do.

00:00.240: Export from File Cut Pro, useclip exporter 2, and then you've got native red footage in um After Effects.

00:00.240: Final Cut 10XML, Python and Nuke, and it will cut it up into individual shots with new names to go out to all the artists.

00:00.240: The clips, so you can set good naming hierarchies in your folder hierarchies for new coming I understand that it's that sounds like

00:00.240: It is, yeah.

00:00.240: And it'll actually rewrap the media and actually do some media management as well when it sends it off.

00:00.240: either to exporter.

00:00.240: A pretty big-sized corporation, and somebody in one of their divisions said, Look, our guys went around on their own and they took their phones and

00:00.240: Tasked by your boss to be the person to do, you know, to cover the office party, you can do that.

00:00.240: Oh, it's not a good tool unless it can do focus.

00:00.240: You have to, each of us needs to unmute ourselves.

00:00.240: library things, a better way to go.

00:00.240: back arrow, right click and duplicate that old fashioned that really difficult way, that's helped out quite a bit.

00:00.240: which should be to nobody's surprise that it's continuing to mature and get and get a lot better and still add features.

00:00.240: with s six other AVID folks.

00:00.240: And they listened to my reasoning and they were like, wow, that actually does sound kind of cool.

00:00.240: You're the one you are my go-to, I know everything editor.

00:00.240: you are in a tool that can't do what you want it to do.

00:00.240: The idea that the idea of the source record monitor and how you can sort of use the two source record monitors together, especially when you have a multi-chem, multi-clip, whatever you want to call that thing, where you can gang

00:00.240: you may not have anything good for the fourth chorus.

00:00.240: without having to like, you know, sort of copy and paste, you know, a a a chorus from the from the from the first part of the song and the last part of the song and just sing.

00:00.240: you know, assuming you have a fast raid.

00:00.240: Takes and you, you know, you want them in a multi-cam, multi-group, whatever, because they're easy.

00:00.240: for specific shots.

00:00.240: And then I clicked onto the fact that, wait a second, I don't have to.

00:00.240: whoever's playing and whatever the best focus is, which that, then I can just re-rack to the top of the multi-clip and go through and take another four cameras and see if any of those shots improve over my original.

00:00.240: is great for multicam switching, but music video editing is a different beast because you're not you don't have multiple cameras, like two or three cameras shooting the same performance or four cameras or eight cameras or

00:00.240: you know, 10, 20, 60, 80.

00:00.240: But you're really there's very nuanced things that happen one at a time.

00:00.240: What you need to do.

00:00.240: Whatever reason, I didn't discover it for hours later.

00:00.240: talked about him with Scott and also with Vid.

00:00.240: Scott, how many hours does it take you to do a typical like a Taylor Swift video?

00:00.240: Week-long.

00:00.240: And then it has the more space setting, but it doesn't actually give you resolution of those.

00:00.240: And then I tried it on the as soon as the 5K iMac comes out, I I thought, well, um how much is that GPU spent wasting time giving us a really smooth, beautiful UI when really we want that GPU to be spending time working on our actual video?

00:00.240: Computer that can show 4K but with so little UI around the outsider thought this is ridiculous or 2K

00:00.240: five Ks, you can set it to more pixels.

00:00.240: Do the export and you or with longer shows, you would have saved yourself 10%, 15%.

00:00.240: $1 to $300,000 to $500,000 to get this thing set up, and like, you're telling me I can't trust the GUI?

00:00.240: I like that.

00:00.240: There should be a filter for those things.

00:00.240: As well as it just saying used, you could say, well, used in this time line, and it's used from this time code to this time code, and here's the comment associated with the clip as it was used.

00:00.240: That would be show unused media and show used media with the little red red markers in your bin.

00:00.240: I like the idea of possibly the first person to open up a an event owns that event, um but other people could be opening up different events in the same library and you can use clips in different in different events in different uh

00:00.240: Yeah, we had that discussion with Paul, my boss, the other day, and he was givecing over the fact that you couldn't he goes, oh, I wanted to I wanted to work on the library in another room and I couldn't I used to be able to do that all the time at seven I'm like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa stop

00:00.240: push consolidate with that library pointing to that media directory.

00:00.240: taking up any additional space.

00:00.240: talking about all that stuff.

00:00.240: But the bottom line is keep your libraries local, keep your media on the sand, reference have everyone consolidating to the same directory, and then keep the actual like

00:00.240: They need to make a way, and if they could do this, they do it better than anybody else.

00:00.240: You know, it just needs to look like we got this wonderful share thing that's supposed to be magical.

00:00.240: Dot localized is the hidden extension on all of the template folders in the Final Cut I believe it's the Final Cut Movies folder.

00:00.240: and I should be able to share them acro or or share them or move them or transport them, whatever, between multiple machines.

00:00.240: Because I never lose keystroked data there.

00:00.240: what happens is that sometimes you may have two folders that seem to have the same name, one with localize and one with not.

00:00.240: that you've had the missing things, look at as xm.

00:00.240: that location which it's where it's expecting is different from where you happen to have it on that machine.

00:00.240: and you could create different categories for them and you could you know, so the idea of categories and groupings would be make it so that you could have the right name for your plugins.

00:00.240: that same plugins in a slightly different place.

00:00.240: Yeah.

00:00.240: Awesome.

00:00.240: No, it's good.

00:00.240: I've learned tons of stuff from the podcast itself.

00:00.240: and an absolute love and affection of hearing my own voice over the speakers in my car with new content every week

00:00.240: The actual stories are really good, very inspirational about how they actually came to editing as well.

00:00.240: people getting access to tools and being able to change their world by actually telling the stories through video is really powerful.

00:00.240: of what people are really thinking, and it's they what they truly believe as opposed to it just being a load of hype.

00:00.240: standard workflows, these are real human beings, and you've got the human humanity across.

00:00.240: offline File Cut Pro ten is really cool.

00:00.240: you know, Willie One could come out of the factory and give us all a golden ticket or something like that.

00:00.240: team or the ProAps team aren't in a position politically to do anything about it.

00:00.240: here's what we're going to do to make it so much worth have a really good set of ways of of the people in the team going to their bosses and say, look, here are all the amazing advantages you would have

00:00.240: in all sorts of levels.

00:00.240: be able to tell video at all sorts of levels to be able to change their world using video.

00:00.240: What?

00:00.240: Apple, if you wanted to completely rock the industry, if you wanted to completely change the way people saw this application, and this is to Steve and Estelle, the whole gang over there, just

00:00.240: Show us the five things that Final Cut X does better than anything else, and have somebody on camera with an Apple shirt on, standing in front of a white limbo background at a white Pine table with a MacBook Pro or a 5K iMac or whatever.

00:00.240: Chat, you know, meet meet the faces that you see here, meet the voices that you've heard on the show, but that's what we're going to be doing, NAB.

00:00.240: I will see you next week with episode 101.

00:00.240: And this voice will you'll be able to get the sound file on Friday.

00:00.240: There is a lone pool table right in front of the pizza parlor.

00:00.240: Yeah, we are going to be there.

00:00.320: 100 episodes in one year of the Final Cut Grill.

00:00.320: And then sitting by the pool, Bill Davis.

00:00.320: Everything's wonderful here in California.

00:00.320: people so push push back so much on that.

00:00.320: video editors are like actual photographers, because it seemed a bit apertureish, if you steward to me, in the way things were.

00:00.320: release, but Apple didn't make a big deal of it, it's kind of s still kind of mysterious because um yeah, it's I feel pretty similar about it.

00:00.320: Yeah.

00:00.320: the sort of new crop of editors that you've been doing some color work for, been using it.

00:00.320: I don't want to say I guess it's sort of becoming standard.

00:00.320: in the storyline, right in the middle of the program.

00:00.320: I found myself in the whole first year just falling in love with these peripheral things that weren't the heart of it, and everybody was screaming and shouting about, oh, I don't like magnetism, and what about connected clips and all the rest of this.

00:00.320: And then we have like a Vimeo solution, which then we post that link into a WordPress site, and then we also will download the HD seven twenty P

00:00.320: Trying to explain that, and you know, they want settings, and I'm like, Yeah, I don't know, 1080p, H.

00:00.320: Right.

00:00.320: I guess that like I don't get as many raised eyebrows anymore is is really the big thing.

00:00.320: you know, it's progressed a lot.

00:00.320: And I think that's kind of the biggest change is there's so much like I don't have many problems in the app so much anymore.

00:00.320: sort of create an ecosystem or a framework that other people can hook into.

00:00.320: Alex, Colmar?

00:00.320: There's a script floating around out there that will do Final Cut 10 to Nuke so you can take a timeline.

00:00.320: Well, I th the I think the clip exporter too does that as well.

00:00.320: So we get into this process of thinking that everybody edits like I do, and so everybody who needs this tool needs to do the same thing I do.

00:00.320: They don't really want to get down into the weeds of as much of this stuff as all of us do.

00:00.320: We love that 10 can do that and can play in that world.

00:00.320: and new levels of expertise.

00:00.320: Explain to people how it works.

00:00.320: And I dive into 10 and I bring that stuff in there, and I start working really hard to make it just acceptable and good.

00:00.320: they can enhance their lives and their corporate positions by understanding more about how to communicate with video, and that's a pretty powerful thing.

00:00.320: I'm not trying to keep you from talking, but just mute yourself if you can, because there's some extra noises.

00:00.320: I would hope so.

00:00.320: describe like eight clicks and you're like, yeah, that should be two.

00:00.320: Wait, Scott, did you say you like 10 for music videos or you don't like it?

00:00.320: Well, I think I know a lot of people that only use it for music videos and cut other stuff on Avid or Premiered, so that's interesting.

00:00.320: What you don't have is the ability, like what I like about you know, in music videos, is like you know, your chorus is sung four times within the song.

00:00.320: you know, the um you end I think I think my the the trackless timeline and the connected thing ends up being much messier to me in you know, in the end when you're trying to

00:00.320: build all these different performance things.

00:00.320: I I will say that I think I think let me ask you Bill's got a good point about auditions.

00:00.320: I see what you're saying.

00:00.320: that then going in and doing B-roll and stuff like that for the non-sync pieces was a piece of K.

00:00.320: Now, bullet from a bullet point standpoint, they both do exactly the same thing.

00:00.320: couple of days to sort of get a good base down.

00:00.320: No, I mean it's it's good music feels a wee you know, it's a good week of it, as you know.

00:00.320: I think you did a post about how the 5K iMac is not really 5K, it's actually more, and then they scale it or some voodoo magic.

00:00.320: Not really.

00:00.320: then your exports will be faster by about fourteen percent, fifteen percent, which is relevant.

00:00.320: complicated file, they're having the retina actually changed it.

00:00.320: Why have a 5k machine if all you've got is just the full load of video and just a few things who are on the bottom of the screen?

00:00.320: Because it's actually a good 4K display, whereas people are having a tough time finding those.

00:00.320: I think, you know, the world the word professional at a certain point is just code for complicated.

00:00.320: You know, it's literally like I could like the whole thing made my eyes bleed.

00:00.320: But the only way to install their app was to be in the terminal to do it.

00:00.320: So anyway, that's a total tangent, but the bottom line is keep it simple.

00:00.320: Yeah.

00:00.320: But the iMacs are and especially the five Ks, they're very capable machines.

00:00.320: Yes.

00:00.320: Yes, but sometimes you want to actually get back not to the multicam angle but to the actual source clip.

00:00.320: the idea of duplicating as a child.

00:00.320: That's not true.

00:00.320: Okay.

00:00.320: Because of the hard links.

00:00.320: So that's kind of the easiest thing.

00:00.320: it's really kind of amazing.

00:00.320: Capable, at least in our office.

00:00.320: That is the workflow that I want them to do.

00:00.320: A simple thing.

00:00.320: Replace any words in front of that in German, English, Spanish, whatever.

00:00.320: is that I generate text templates that adhere to our client specifications, et cetera, et cetera.

00:00.320: And yet I am constantly.

00:00.320: The fact that keyed in, you know, uh data that has been laboriously keystroked and checked and double-checked and probably done wrong at least once if I typed it.

00:00.320: The fact that that information can get lost is that to me is horrible.

00:00.320: Sorry.

00:00.320: what it like would like is just relink plugin, just like you can relink a clip.

00:00.320: it's irritating that this Apple were trying to make it better that you could have the same plugin name in different categories.

00:00.320: formula potion where you're keeping your you're keeping your templates in sync across machines using some sort of w uh Alex McLean, you and I were talking about it the other day, r sync, something like that?

00:00.320: Just it's just my philosophy, I well that that that I do have like M object and things like that, but I don't use it

00:00.320: What will be interesting is to look when you get 100 more in the can to see how much further along the tool has advanced at that point.

00:00.320: I would like to see archivable projects where you only back up used media to a single archive library.

00:00.320: when you're working with a media browser.

00:00.320: Magical throat to be able to do it for that many hours.

00:00.320: And so I was lucky enough to stumble into the original Final Cut on day one.

00:00.320: all this communication is possible in a different way than it was back then.

00:00.320: that I am incredibly excited.

00:00.320: The really cool stuff that's in this program because it's helping a lot of us make our livings, feed our families, and just enjoy editing again.

00:00.320: they don't even know they're working on File Cut Pro ten projects.

00:00.320: Have the ability to defend the choices that they've made.

00:00.320: And I'll tell you, I will make an announcement right now.

00:00.320: On every show.

00:00.320: And thanks for everybody for commenting on the iTunes and everything.

00:00.400: Here you are.

00:00.400: Wanted a a list of all the songs that we had s sought out.

00:00.400: Hour 20 episodes.

00:00.400: And this YouTube link on the right, is this what we're supposed to be tweeting?

00:00.400: But that was just a little bit too far.

00:00.400: Yep.

00:00.400: So I didn't understand I mean, I've worked at a lot of post houses, but I didn't really get like how things were built and started from this from the ground up at other places.

00:00.400: asking from one network because they wanted to copy our workflow to get QuickTime deliveries for all their other vendors.

00:00.400: Wow.

00:00.400: Third-party integration.

00:00.400: Yeah, it's just like 10 is not a tool for one kind of video maker, it's a tool for all video makers.

00:00.400: Okay, so I have done something here technically because I have no idea what I'm doing with the Google world.

00:00.400: The first question we asked everybody was in the last twelve months, what has how has your perception of Final Cut 10 changed since we started this little show?

00:00.400: Maybe.

00:00.400: Yeah, no, and I think that coming, you know, somebody I've always appreciated your input because you're very pragmatic about things.

00:00.400: the the source side to the record side.

00:00.400: the time line, which is part of your multicam clip, and you just watch that sort of cut away what you don't want and leave behind what you like as opposed to overriding from the source side.

00:00.400: Way to work when you consider doing those as auditions?

00:00.400: interview with Vid, but I actually paused him for a second.

00:00.400: You know, everybody these days has a DVR, and it's only the most elite that have a TiVo.

00:00.400: Absolutely.

00:00.400: this test, which is past for this test, because usually it's a lot more than that.

00:00.400: and uh more on the time line and more in your um event library.

00:00.400: Yeah, so if you you can, if you like, see what it looks like on a six K display um if you want.

00:00.400: Yeah, and so that's what I discovered.

00:00.400: Yeah, I think you're echoing off your expensive pool.

00:00.400: So um yeah, sorry.

00:00.400: doing key can be doing keywording, can be doing stuff like that.

00:00.400: And go to town on it.

00:00.400: Solution after the update.

00:00.400: library, but keep them all pointing to the same directory structure.

00:00.400: uh command in ten one two ten one three is a godsend.

00:00.400: And that's why the dot localized exists.

00:00.400: And even though the exact same template is in the exact same folder, even with the dot localized extension, and there's something different.

00:00.400: then that's the problem.

00:00.400: So, if I were to create a new transition or something like that on my system, it changes on all the other systems.

00:00.400: I'd like to see the ability to have custom layouts.

00:00.400: That's okay.

00:00.400: compared to what I remember from the development of Final Cut Pro Legacy Legend, whatever you want to call it.

00:00.400: I said that in one of the earlier hangouts.

00:00.400: How often are we going to be seeing an episode of The Grill?

00:00.400: Come out.

00:00.400: And I I wish that the people that I know that work so hard at making this were able to speak publicly and be

00:00.400: Which will include the Final Kat Grill and anything else that may be coming out before then.

00:00.480: I really I've I found that when I had conversations with other editors about Final Cut 10 who were objective

00:00.480: because I understand how Apple wanted us to wean us off in twenty eleven.

00:00.480: It was the database, obviously.

00:00.480: Literally all over.

00:00.480: Because I came out of the corporate world and I understand, I think, pretty deeply.

00:00.480: Damn it.

00:00.480: Like, right, you know, I can't take something existing in the timeline and say, combine these three things into an audition, which is where that could come in handy.

00:00.480: When you get somebody like me who's like, oh no, it's totally awesome.

00:00.480: We just discovered a utility that you can get off the Apple Store called Display Menu.

00:00.480: You know what?

00:00.480: I think a GPU is a masculine thing, by the way.

00:00.480: Of course.

00:00.480: even if the actual drive name is different, if I could just like share to that you know, iCloud, I guess would be the right

00:00.480: And it has to do with the fact that Final Cut can be used in multiple languages.

00:00.480: Where your File Cup project is expecting these plugins to be as opposed to where they actually are.

00:00.480: Bill Davis?

00:00.480: Um, and then, uh, y you know, I y things with Yosemite are so much better than they were before.

00:00.480: So things are progressing in a very positive direction.

00:00.480: One episode a week of the grill.

00:00.480: take credit for being early with FileCut protein.

00:00.480: at the end of almost at the end of year one of FCPX Grill.

00:00.560: He's out sitting by the pool.

00:00.560: Hello, I'm the one who has this kind of accent that sounds like this.

00:00.560: Okay, so we are now officially going live.

00:00.560: Well, for me, the original thing that attracted me to Tam, I have to say, it it everybody got their hair lit on fire at the original days because of the magnetic timeline and the rest of the stuff.

00:00.560: You know, stuff like that.

00:00.560: So that that's a little bit annoying.

00:00.560: But what are some add-ons that you guys are using or would recommend to somebody that might have

00:00.560: because that's how you get stuff into Premiere and to After Effects and things like that.

00:00.560: That might still have one of those either deficiencies, or a lot of times it's just, oh, I didn't know that.

00:00.560: it's like workaround is a derogatory term.

00:00.560: Limited my view too far.

00:00.560: I barely know my tool.

00:00.560: to the actual resolution that it the computer is generating or whatever.

00:00.560: imagine there's a sixty four hundred pixel wide screen, sixty four hundred by thirty two hundred pixel screen, and it'll actually just render out to that.

00:00.560: And I I think people try and overcomplicate it a little bit, which maybe it's in my best interest to overcomplicate it.

00:00.560: Well, let me alright, hold on.

00:00.560: In other words, a bit going in the direction of what the admin do with Interplay, but doing it with bits inside the library.

00:00.560: So this works well for us, but we don't bring in a lot of third party plugins with the exception of things like ClipExporter two, which is great, or X2Pro.

00:00.560: Well, you sure do talk a lot, Chris, to be able to do 100 episodes of this thing.

00:00.560: There's going to be other sh there's other shows coming out, and I'm going to be participating in something else come December with my old friend Carl Olson.

00:00.560: The hell with you.

00:00.560: And he just said, We used to, you know, saying they used to have a public voice.

00:00.640: Team members, it was just great.

00:00.640: No, it's good.

00:00.640: So yeah, I mean you can pretty much you can do anything in the multi-cancle.

00:00.640: But if you've ever used a TiVo remote control and a TiVo user interface, it's vastly superior to what Comcast has to offer.

00:00.640: whatever.

00:00.640: Well, hey, I I'm the guy who just did some standard dev just the other day on a 5k iMac.

00:00.640: No, you can't if you if you hit the right arrow to disclose all of your favorites and use media ranges, there's no way to get rid of them in the event browser.

00:00.640: When you have media on your drive and you make an exact clone of that media and give it to another edge or on another drive, even with a different name, like I think that's a very common very, very common workflow.

00:00.640: It's done.

00:00.640: And the comparison of the two developmental processes I know it's a different era and I know that that

00:00.640: Well, you made it twice a week.

00:00.640: Well, I'm you bringing the stories of all sorts of different people doing all sorts of different things with File Cut, from professionals to other professionals.

00:00.640: That's the big celebration.

00:00.720: It hasn't changed that much, I must say.

00:00.720: What is the logic or theory behind that?

00:00.720: Yeah, no, everything's good.

00:00.720: I was willing to, I think, accept those problems in the past because of some of the things that it gave me that I could do that I couldn't do anywhere else.

00:00.720: It's just a lot more stable, and I think also some of the third-party applications are starting to catch up with it a little bit more.

00:00.720: We've talked about a little bit on the show, and maybe with some of you, that what Apple has done is more than just create the be-all, end-all application, but they've really tried to

00:00.720: I'm afraid not.

00:00.720: But at any rate, I think that there's some really fascinating subtleties about the gang clip thing, because I don't know how far if you got through the whole

00:00.720: It has like your grandmother setting, like, oh, I can't read the screen.

00:00.720: No, no, the th well the thing, Chris, the thing is that the Final Cut database has all that keystroked information in it.

00:00.720: Then it it could just even simulate it on the space saying, Okay, here's what your clip looks like with the plugin that I've found.

00:00.720: at episode two hundred, or where it has gone to at episode two hundred.

00:00.720: Is there no way to do it?

00:00.800: My amazing insights, stuff you've never heard before.

00:00.800: I think it's evolved a lot.

00:00.800: I want to say Atomic Software.

00:00.800: Hey, Alex, have you seen that?

00:00.800: a bunch of shots that need to go out for visual effects.

00:00.800: So ClipExporter and a clip exporter two are standalone apps and you drop your file cart XML and you can choose to export both out to nuke and to After Effects at the same time.

00:00.800: I mean, most people I work with, they you know, if if I'm picking one I work on, they really don't care what I work on.

00:00.800: I'm not typical.

00:00.800: That's actually good advice.

00:00.800: And get rid of all the the the like a unused media yes.

00:00.800: I have begged them and they have expressed desire, but corporate policy keeps them from speaking publicly.

00:00.800: So, yeah, I think there's going to be one grill.

00:00.800: It's made my life easier.

00:00.880: All right, so I am recording.

00:00.880: All you guys have been guests on the show, and the other people that will come traipsing in, they're going to be that they've all been guests on the show.

00:00.880: That's virtual champagne, and that was a terrible popping sound.

00:00.880: I've never cut 96 angles.

00:00.880: Alex Gullner, did you?

00:00.880: Let's have Alex Goldner talk about that.

00:00.880: I can't remember.

00:00.880: my client name dot lower third and look through the XML, and then you'll see a directory structure, and you may find that the directory structure of where your problem project is exporting the XML

00:00.880: Go, John.

00:00.960: Well, I can say that I like it better than I did twelve months ago.

00:00.960: I was saying the initial cut, if you've got sixteen takes sunk up, I mean, what's amazing to me about it is that you make a cut, it's frame accurate when it's playing back.

00:00.960: I mean, I get the question all the time on Twitter, like, you know, you know, why are you buying the IMAX when you can be getting Mac Pros?

00:00.960: Where is that happening?

00:00.960: Yes, you did.

00:01.040: Uh libraries helped.

00:01.040: As things get better, I tend to forget immediately anything else that I worked with before, even if previous versions of Final Cut

00:01.040: So I had two reactions to that.

00:01.040: If it takes you two clicks for your whole life and then suddenly it's taking you eight clicks, I still think that can be considered a workaround.

00:01.040: I mean, you know, the best thing about it is the fact that you can go in and add things and remove things, which is something like Avid, for instance.

00:01.040: Oh, I forgot an angle or that one little thing is out of sync.

00:01.040: But when you're talking about narrative and little scenes and now we're in the tunnel and now we're in blah blah blah, you know

00:01.040: Say hi to the render bars for us.

00:01.040: But like and that's mostly for assistants and editors.

00:01.120: Our iTunes database has gotten enormous.

00:01.120: I guess the big thing is is I guess people think I'm less crazy now.

00:01.120: No, I mean, it's much better than it used to be.

00:01.120: there are they more people seem to have an open mind now.

00:01.120: Like Final Cut 7 was like you make an edit and it's like ten frames off.

00:01.120: I think it's important.

00:01.120: Plus, Chris, don't forget there's you know, not what I think of as a music video may not at all be what Scott thinks of as a music video.

00:01.120: Alex, you did some speed tests about turning on and off the retina functionality.

00:01.120: What hardware configurations are you seeing or recommending or installing most often?

00:01.120: I think that would be quite useful.

00:01.120: Lots of just little things like that that kind of take us up a level.

00:01.200: All kinds of little chimes and beeps and stuff for everybody listening.

00:01.200: So they don't want their guys going in to work in the center of the store.

00:01.200: So what have you seen in the last twelve months that has evolved that has made a difference in your business?

00:01.200: So let's talk excuse me as professional.

00:01.200: So basically, does anyone know the thing where if you consolidate your media, basically the the key is to use Final Cut's directory structure, keep your libraries on a local

00:01.200: No problem at all.

00:01.280: We made it.

00:01.280: But if you're sitting here tonight, you get to see everybody.

00:01.280: Because my laptop is in there crunching away on a project that I'm getting paid for and my sit my wife has the other one in California, so I was down to my phone.

00:01.280: Do you see do you feel that the people that you work with, that their perception is changing?

00:01.280: No, I meant to say you know all the systems.

00:01.280: Something like that.

00:01.280: So the answer is export the XML, go through the XML, and f do a search for the lower third name that you're missing.

00:01.280: The new hardware like the 5K Mac is good.

00:01.280: Come out of the closet.

00:01.360: probably colorists and VFX editors, and the iMac is for editors and assistant editors.

00:01.360: You know what I wish that Apple would do?

00:01.360: it's been exciting to see the audience grow too, and I think a lot and see every you providing a platform for people to love Final Cut X, because there's a lot of haters out there.

00:01.440: Some of the guys were not wearing headphones, talking on the phone, whatever.

00:01.440: And I'm going to introduce the voices because if you're listening to this on the the iTunes later.

00:01.440: It's f feeling a bit more rock solid.

00:01.440: I just the very first thing I did when 10.

00:01.440: So you're going to have two files on the same drive that can both be accessed, and it's going to reflect the same amount of space on your SAN or hard drive.

00:01.440: Oh, no, go ahead.

00:01.440: No.

00:01.440: Are you announcing the same thing that I'm going to announce?

00:01.440: So, this is as much for me as it is for everybody else.

00:01.520: Tell me you don't like it.

00:01.520: But, you know, I think I listened to the uh the Vid Davis show today.

00:01.520: And his workaround for not having the source side, the same thing I did when I've cut in, is you just basically just you know, you you start a track, you s you start, you know, watch one of you you lay an entire performance take out on on

00:01.520: You could do exactly what we used to do.

00:01.520: Daily Grill.

00:01.600: You want to be healthier?

00:01.600: I'm kind of excited to see.

00:01.600: No, that's not my thing.

00:01.600: And I love the fact that I I at first I tried to switch all 16 cameras and I found I just couldn't do it.

00:01.600: So what you can do, kind of like the Retina MacBook Pros, is that it has five cartoonish settings.

00:01.600: test for File Cup Roturn called BruceX.

00:01.600: But what do you think what do you think is the most potentially the most exciting thing that we may see in the next six to twelve months?

00:01.600: Yeah, oh, yeah, I got you.

00:01.600: I think that would suffice for so many multi-editor workflows, that's all that you really need.

00:01.600: I think we should wrap this up.

00:01.600: I think that you've probably done more to advance the world of Final Cut 10 than maybe Apple themselves.

00:01.680: It was, eh.

00:01.680: And one thing I will say in terms of what you can do on the multicam side in terms of that is if you are doing song playback, for instance, in a music video, you can typically sync to the playback track with multiple angles and have multiple takes.

00:01.680: I'm going to come to Tennessee and hang out with you while you cut a music video someday.

00:01.680: So how how is cutting on that thing?

00:01.680: Um yeah, I mean, I like the idea of co collaborative editing when essentially if you look inside Final Couple libraries, which are just specialized directories in in the on the finder

00:01.680: Maybe it is, but I got to tell you, it's been a great trip so far, and I hope it continues for a long time.

00:01.760: And so the theory was: if I enjoy the conversations, other people might enjoy listening to them.

00:01.760: I just, you know, frankly, doing two of them a week.

00:01.760: We the fact that there are projects that you can actually duplicate now with the keystroke instead of having to

00:01.760: It was in a facility with you know, Avid facility, and I talked about it quite a bit, talking about s you know, why I chose it on that big the one big job, that big job I did earlier this year.

00:01.760: It was too small for me to see.

00:01.760: If you don't know you need one, go iMac.

00:01.760: I'll tell you one of the greatest things that Final Cut 10 has and nobody else has.

00:01.760: So you say, okay, I don't want to see any master clips using a different editing term.

00:01.760: And you will have to merge those two libraries together, but that's not undoable, and it's no different than the work you had to do with Final Cut.

00:01.760: If it I don't know, maybe you actually go to the latest virtual user group.

00:01.760: It seems to me, John, that last time you and I talked, you you uh alluded to some sort of magic uh f

00:01.760: If you don't have any haters, you're not doing something right.

00:01.760: And put your voice behind the wonderful work that you're doing.

00:01.840: So to me, it was the stuff in the peripheral that was much more interesting than the storylines itself.

00:01.840: I think I've had like 98 is the most takes I've ever had on a music video, and they're all entirely different things.

00:01.840: It turns out that the retina does slow things down.

00:01.840: But I think more than anything, I like the fact that if I give you shit about being Apple marketing, but it's only 'cause you're f fun to make fun of and you make fun right back.

00:01.920: Okay.

00:01.920: I oh, God.

00:01.920: And that's what we'll be doing.

00:02.000: Episode 100 of the Grill.

00:02.000: That would be an audio preference setting.

00:02.000: But move the share window up into the corner.

00:02.000: I mean, we're doing really, really cool work now.

00:02.000: So yeah, I can't imagine that's that's very difficult to keep track of.

00:02.000: Did you have to get your telescope out for that one, Fenwick?

00:02.000: Match back to the bin.

00:02.000: In other words, I like to duplicate this whole library as a child, so somebody can work with it and then it can be readopted in and then the merge, the dangerous merge purge thing.

00:02.000: You are not remembering exactly and frankly, everything at this point with ten the ten one two, ten one three world and the trim or the lean libraries, whatever you want to call it,

00:02.000: If people download those there's many free plugins for Final Cut Pro ten, but if you don't put it in the same place that somebody else has put it, then Final Cut Pro on that machine will not recognize

00:02.080: Excuse me.

00:02.080: Well, I know how to make a 6,000 pixel wide timeline.

00:02.080: Bullshit.

00:02.160: Although funnily enough, in Avid that's what Avid does.

00:02.160: And it's great to get into these dark little corners of what happens if you're working with Mike Masdorf on a movie and you've got to do match back frames and you've got to send things out to ten different departments.

00:02.160: And every time it's when it says used, it'd be really nice if it says used where, in other words, and then the name of the clip if it's been renamed on the actually in that specific time line, which so the idea would be you'd say

00:02.160: So sounds like you want to page pop up heads up display.

00:02.160: Hey, John, do you guys ever have trouble there at Magic Feather with the dot localized issue?

00:02.160: I d oh, no, you have to.

00:02.240: So how are we going to get our stuff into After Effects?

00:02.240: I mean, one is that, you know, the, and if you listen to that Bid Davis discussion,

00:02.240: And like, that point I just have to live with an unsynced angle at that point.

00:02.240: So I get it.

00:02.240: And then I usually like to send the director over and say, hey, tell me am I going the right direction?

00:02.240: And the room goes silent.

00:02.240: I just got a text.

00:02.320: It's a balmy 70 degrees.

00:02.320: Instead of saying, we'll be able to sell a few more copies of File Cup Pro to make people making future films, we'll say, look, if we come out into the open a little bit more, we'll be able to help another couple of million people

00:02.400: It's the fact that libraries actually exist and it's much more flexible in terms of de having libraries and having control over them and ten point one point two giving that bit more control is really cool.

00:02.400: Like I think, you know, a lot of the stuff that people have complained about, it's like, you know, there's there's less and less like deal breakers, I think.

00:02.400: Have you played speaking of Nuke?

00:02.400: I mean, getting that initial first cut is extremely quick.

00:02.400: And at the end of the day, that was such a close to what I wanted cut.

00:02.400: Daily Grill.

00:02.480: Awesome.

00:02.480: I just took to that like a duct of water.

00:02.480: One of them was, why are you working with other vendors?

00:02.480: Vid was talking about routinely cutting 60 angles.

00:02.480: So I think it would save quite a lot of bother for if Apple just introduced relink plugins.

00:02.480: But yeah, it's it's it works it works well for us.

00:02.480: Nothing really much to add.

00:02.560: And so it just kind of felt like a pool party.

00:02.560: And how how's everything going down there?

00:02.560: I'm going to open up the question here to you guys, and we'll go through this one at a time.

00:02.560: Don't go to the center of the store.

00:02.560: And then um we're working on ten gigabit Ethernet and occasionally some Macs just beach ball a little bit and that happens.

00:02.560: I think I'd love to see things get a little bit more elegant, but the this directory structure and the way they've set things up

00:02.560: So, Sam, thanks for joining us.

00:02.560: Talk to the people that are that are keeping you locked up in the factory and tell them that the number one thing that you could do is to

00:02.560: That's what I want to know.

00:02.640: Okay, really?

00:02.640: It was the event browser.

00:02.640: It's not.

00:02.640: Okay, so what I'm trying to do, what I'm trying to do is there's a lot of little breathing and stuff when one person is talking.

00:02.640: And Vid explained it pretty well, wherein, you know, if you are if you're starting to edit your m mini performance takes, you sort of watch them all down and drop them in the time line where, you know, where you find something that you like from

00:02.640: Yeah.

00:02.640: So, do you guys know anything about hard links?

00:02.640: Have you been unmuted since I muted us?

00:02.640: I realize, Mr.

00:02.720: If you guys hold off for just one second, hey, so welcome to episode 100: the much talked about, the much touted, the much anticipated.

00:02.720: I mean, just in the la I mean, for last year especially, a lot more people I've seen, all the systems we're using, we're now actually supporting

00:02.720: I mean, you know, our company kind of started.

00:02.720: So I kind of I left for Python.

00:02.720: It's a music video, but it's not what he's thinking of.

00:02.720: That's the conversation.

00:02.720: It's going to be casual.

00:02.800: I understand why they change, but that was fascinating to me, and the whole idea of getting to work with keywording and the rest of that.

00:02.800: There's a free script.

00:02.800: So technically, it's not really a workaround.

00:02.800: So the game seeking stuff and the ease of match framing lets you quickly get back to the first chorus.

00:02.800: They they both they're on they're on par as far as the way the the multicam, m you know, multi grouping, whatever you want to call it, tools, the way you set them up and the way you actually work with them.

00:02.800: And again, we're still not talking about Final Cut Pro 10, thanks to Scott Simmons.

00:02.800: Nothing is perfect for everything, Mr.

00:02.880: You may have a place where you have six or seven or eight or ten little pieces of performance that you really like that kind of starts to get stacked up.

00:02.880: What do you guys think?

00:02.880: And although I'm such a whore for download counts, I'll probably do two a week until the end of November just to keep

00:02.960: Yeah, we get into that, but I got to tell you, it's really easy in our excitement because most of us here have been with the program for a number of years.

00:02.960: That's a place where you technically switching is is an okay thing and you want to switch.

00:02.960: So for music video workflows specifically, if you're dealing with a lot of lip sync type stuff, you can have those takes come in and be their own multicam angles even if they were shot from the same camera.

00:02.960: So a question for Sam.

00:02.960: This is who's getting the echo now?

00:02.960: I think that it's gotten a lot bloated, and I think it needs to just be an individual music database like it started.

00:02.960: We just ought to talk about how fun it is because it really is truly more fun to edit in TEM than I've had editing in the last 10 years.

00:02.960: You proved me wrong.

00:02.960: Although we don't know what time and we don't know we know what we're doing it.

00:03.040: Well, here we are, a year later, 100 hours of this stuff, plus, because there's, you know, if those odd

00:03.040: Okay.

00:03.040: And to me, that was really easy to adapt to.

00:03.040: Where can I get one of those shirts, by the way?

00:03.040: What's the last year?

00:03.040: It's the one that reads all your libraries.

00:03.040: And you're right.

00:03.040: So when it comes to rendering the actual GPU stuff, even when exporting and when exporting a

00:03.040: And we add more pixels, everything all the UI, everything gets that bit smaller, but that means you've just got a bit more control around the outside to have things like the inspector

00:03.040: And if you mess around with that hard links thing, it might blow your mind a little bit in terms of having the same piece of media in multiple places on the drives without

00:03.040: xml and use one of the tools to examine it, or in my case, you look through the XML and you'd be able to see the actual

00:03.040: It just, I finally figured it out.

00:03.040: I know everybody wants everything, and that's just human nature, and I get that.

00:03.120: Sorry, I guess I should speak in the mic.

00:03.120: That's really the biggest change I've seen aside from the libraries, obviously.

00:03.120: That sort of died for the first half of this year.

00:03.120: They're like, What, you picked to use it?

00:03.120: 03 came out was a 14 camera live shoot Jazzband.

00:03.120: But it also becomes a bit of a thorn in our side.

00:03.120: Let's see.

00:03.120: They didn't even realize it.

00:03.200: I can reduce my view to four cameras, the four primaries.

00:03.200: I go, Dude, you got to explain this gang thing because I I don't even know what you're talking about.

00:03.200: Oh, yeah.

00:03.280: Seriously.

00:03.280: So to all of the people that I got paid a lot of money by in the corporate world who are just trying to solve communications problems

00:03.280: It's not a misconception.

00:03.280: I think that's what it is.

00:03.280: And that means the people doing the onlines and doing the special effects on the on high end music videos and high end T V commercials and movie commercials and stuff like that.

00:03.280: So I think it's pretty cool.

00:03.360: For example, you can duplicate your time line, get rid of all your shots that are non-VFX plates, and then you can kick out

00:03.360: I mean, there's some updates that worked really well, even though I still can't get 10.

00:03.360: I'm like, mm.

00:03.360: But you guys know the thing about like workarounds, y'all's discussion about workarounds, where like it's

00:03.360: It's not really it's only a workaround if you have another way of doing things.

00:03.360: Yeah, that would be cool.

00:03.360: Duplicate the project file or the library file, carry it over to another machine.

00:03.360: I know that Sam has to go.

00:03.360: And the FA File Cut Pro ten is being used for offline editing.

00:03.360: No, we're thinking the same thing.

00:03.440: So left to right, we have Alex Golner from London, England-ish.

00:03.440: It is derogatory if you're used to something working a certain way.

00:03.440: Sorry.

00:03.440: The big one 03.

00:03.440: Simmons, it is not perfect for everything, but it's but for me and the things that I do, it's an awesome tool.

00:03.520: So I'm just going to do the ad here real quick.

00:03.520: What are you going to do?

00:03.520: Okay.

00:03.520: And this is one of those things where, and I've talked about this before on the show, it's sort of like the TiVo analogy.

00:03.520: What about just sending in XML of the project?

00:03.520: It's dub.

00:03.600: Thank you, Alex.

00:03.600: And then we have other things like oh, what's the

00:03.600: You started me with a one.

00:03.600: So it's kind of a a different beast there.

00:03.600: Is it good and fast?

00:03.600: So, wrap-up thoughts.

00:03.600: What's for lunch?

00:03.600: Okay, so hey, uh we th Alex and I, McLean and I have been talking about what the DCC presence is going to be this coming year at NAB.

00:03.680: So the sign when ten point one comes out and Apple seem to have listened and they realized that not all

00:03.680: I know you helped me develop about two years ago.

00:03.680: I think next year is going to be a big year, I'm hoping.

00:03.680: Where I could, if I knew the other editor working across town or cross-country or down the hallway, had the exact same duplicated media.

00:03.680: But we have gone so much faster and so much farther in the development of this tool.

00:03.680: Or are we just going to tell everyone different plans?

00:03.760: Are we going to switch the YouTube on air, by the way?

00:03.760: How are you, Bill?

00:03.760: I I if it feels more professional, so I shouldn't use that term.

00:03.760: It's now like a couple of terabytes.

00:03.760: Have you played with any of those Python scripts for Final Cut 10, the nuke?

00:03.760: Really?

00:03.760: You can add multiple audio tracks.

00:03.760: Like, you know, I've done I've had that I've spent hours syncing a multi you know, a group clip in Avid, and I just missed the sync on one of them, but don't discover it till five hours later.

00:03.760: I mean, I think that would be really powerful.

00:03.760: And I think they may do this.

00:03.760: Because that seems to be that seems to be such a simple thing, but it's still a little bit complex, whether you're in Premiere or Final Cut App or whatever, to share

00:03.760: Just yesterday, I found a project where I tried to open it on a machine, and all of the lower thirds showed up as missing media.

00:03.760: And Apple, you're more than welcome to back up one of your big old money trucks to my office and dump some off.

00:03.760: So clearly you're doing something right because you got a lot of haters.

00:03.760: I just want to say thanks for you guys for sitting up and staying up late, very late, Alex Golner.

00:03.840: And then John Davidson from LA or Burbankie.

00:03.840: Sorry about that, but we have to celebrate.

00:03.840: I mean auditions like in the s and it could be a a replacement for it, I guess, but like it's the whole point of the multicamp.

00:03.840: But it was forty two seconds regularly if you actually turned off the retina and then just used it used your iMac as

00:03.840: I mean the main issue I think a lot of people are are finding is and the main reason the 5K iMac is so interesting is

00:03.840: Yeah, because Chris Fenwick wisdom.

00:03.840: And then match frame from a multicam angle back to the source at the frame you're parked on.

00:03.840: So, Apple, if you're listening, please don't display all of them.

00:03.840: Oh, wait a second.

00:03.920: I just finished the episode, and it was great.

00:03.920: Stay to the outside.

00:03.920: Well, because, first of all, that's the stuff like meats and fresh stuff.

00:03.920: You know, it's easy to switch through.

00:03.920: I said Vid Davis.

00:04.000: Yeah, you can tweet that out if you want.

00:04.000: I even sadly missed the project library that we had.

00:04.000: Just not a curious bear at the end, but the initial problem with auditions.

00:04.000: Yeah, okay, yeah, let let's let's go to Simmons.

00:04.000: I appreciate it.

00:04.000: Can we cut that part out?

00:04.000: So weirdly enough, it may be up us in the community to break that, come up with a solution, to come up with some kind of strategies to say

00:04.000: You go get a slice of pizza, play some pool.

00:04.080: So welcoming the we are now welcoming the live viewers as look at them rolling in like crazy.

00:04.080: Maybe one of you guys knows what it is.

00:04.080: It's pretty cool.

00:04.080: And so when I hear you guys talking about some of the things you're doing, I was like, wow, you know what?

00:04.080: Why not be able to relink the plugin and say, well, look, I know you can't find a lower third.

00:04.080: I mean, I think s things are progressing well.

00:04.080: I would like to see some H.

00:04.160: Ah, beautiful.

00:04.160: They record a show or two or three or four when you're not home, you know, automatically, and it may even recommend things to you.

00:04.160: How does that happen in 2014?

00:04.160: But you can edit away, and then it only takes a second to switch the resolution to um non-retina.

00:04.160: Just like, how about just share, plop it there, and then the other guy goes, oh, import, and boom, it's right there.

00:04.160: Yeah, we just have a template terminal command that syncs all motion template folders across all machines.

00:04.160: I think it's part of the whole point of the thing.

00:04.160: I don't usually refer to FCPX, it's just not my thing.

00:04.240: Let's move on.

00:04.240: Well, that's wonderful.

00:04.240: You should do it.

00:04.240: So it's pretty cool.

00:04.240: It's definitely masculine.

00:04.320: So that's our ad.

00:04.320: I don't know if I can call you all experts.

00:04.320: I'm more excited when I get, you know, a

00:04.320: How would you use that?

00:04.320: It's dub.

00:04.400: But After Effects, of course, is becoming more popular as the we don't want to spend money on nuke option.

00:04.400: I mean now it used to be free.

00:04.400: So if you you can use one of these routi one that tool that Chris mentioned, or you can use switch res or

00:04.400: It doesn't mean I'm going to be podcasting any less because I do have a sickness.

00:04.400: And there's lots of us who are editors know that as well as information, video is really good at getting emotion across, and you've been very good at getting that emotion across.

00:04.400: And maybe in a few months' time they'll be saying, oh yeah, yeah, we know File Cut Pro ten, mainly because these edit houses are actually sending them File Cut Pro ten timelines and they're and they suddenly they all they'll suddenly

00:04.400: And that will maybe appeal to the philosophical emotional side of Apple as opposed to the we're too scared to actually let any information out.

00:04.480: And that's just the beauty of Google Plus.

00:04.480: Is that better?

00:04.480: I know every editor.

00:04.480: It's a ProRes LT, so that's all I will see for ProRes LT, so I'll be all right.

00:04.480: No.

00:04.480: Just three more oh no, sorry, minute.

00:04.480: Yeah.

00:04.480: And frankly, if you could, nobody would listen to this podcast.

00:04.480: Penwick.

00:04.480: Thanks a lot, and I'm going to sign off the YouTube, Google thing, whatever.

00:04.560: So we made a playlist.

00:04.560: Alex McLean, you deal with Final Hit 10 on occasion in the coloring world.

00:04.560: Plus, the center of the store is like, well, it gets really complicated.

00:04.560: No, I do not.

00:04.560: And what that does is it renders a five K a two second five K file using lots of all the built-in generators and lots of copies of them, like lots

00:04.560: So Sam, what are people doing in a shared workflow environment?

00:04.560: At which point, you can have your media live completely separate from a folder on the sand.

00:04.560: And we are gonna we don't know when, but it's gonna be late night.

00:04.640: I don't know what that's about.

00:04.640: So in the corner of your screen grab it says Final Cut Pro 10.

00:04.640: So I know it's it's good.

00:04.640: Not that they are actually going to sit down and start using it, but at least they're open to listen to my reasoning why I picked it.

00:04.640: And then it has the, you know, the retina approved for retina or retina best for retina.

00:04.640: It's worth checking out, which I think is really the big barrier on the 4K side to the Mac Pro.

00:04.640: And like I just realized in the Apple world so long that like

00:04.640: Sam, thanks for dropping in and joining the conversation.

00:04.640: I hit something and up popped a window from the bottom.

00:04.720: I don't have time to do two of them.

00:04.720: Let me I'm gonna and meanwhile, I'm gonna invite some people here.

00:04.720: I wish we could do that here in the Abbott.

00:04.720: Let's play a little prediction here.

00:04.720: Very short little shows.

00:04.720: It really does help the show and it helped get the word out.

00:04.800: No.

00:04.800: That's all the fresh stuff is.

00:04.800: So, John, as I recall, you guys use the share to Vimeo.

00:04.800: How have things changed in the last year for you?

00:04.800: The g like and the level of apology that starts happening for people when they're explaining why their stuff doesn't work.

00:04.800: Hey, congrats on the 100th episode.

00:04.800: I don't know if they're going to do this.

00:04.800: I would like to see you know

00:04.880: I had a great experience this week with a client who

00:04.880: You know, this morning, earlier today, probably in reality a half hour ago.

00:04.880: Okay.

00:04.880: So it'll if you've got a twenty five minute GoPro clip, it'll just send the three seconds used on the timeline, that sort of thing.

00:04.880: And I was like, Yeah, I did pick it myself, all by myself

00:04.880: It's Vid Price.

00:04.880: Look at what I do.

00:04.880: And it's going to actually bring all of those files into the directory, except it's not going to take up any additional space on your drive.

00:04.880: You know, it's interesting.

00:04.880: When 10 came out, I was at the hall helping Mike Courtney and those guys put the show on where Apple announced this.

00:04.880: So that's what we're doing, and that's the show we've been teasing for the last 10 months.

00:04.960: I'm fine.

00:04.960: The company's kind of starting to take off, and it's been a good experience.

00:04.960: Just ins he was like over the moon going, these are our people.

00:04.960: They're going to be able to relink everything in their path regardless of where they're at.

00:04.960: I think it should go daily.

00:05.040: The Avid way is to keep everything in Avid Media Files and all the projects in certain places.

00:05.040: There is an overarching kind of philosophy that

00:05.040: And if you need to work on a giant feature, you can do that.

00:05.040: I started listening to that one.

00:05.040: Yeah, the multicam, and I always think it's important to distinguish, multicams like the multicam tool, whether you're in Premiere or Final Guide 10

00:05.040: I've only done like 20 angles.

00:05.040: Come on down.

00:05.040: Yeah.

00:05.040: It has made so many workflows very, very um

00:05.040: Still alive.

00:05.040: To say that the democratization of

00:05.040: But the other thing to sort out is how can we help Apple to be less mysterious?

00:05.120: I I unfortunately, I'm in a situation where I don't what would I recommend?

00:05.120: You're just doing it like the tool does.

00:05.120: But I mean, to be fair, Premiere sets up pretty much ex the Premiere Multicam tools is as good as

00:05.120: I mean it's you know it's it's kind of nice that you can do you can sort of really tailor that thing to do what

00:05.120: Yeah, it's good and fast.

00:05.120: Get a Mac Pro if you're doing anything crazy, and an iMac will work just fine for ninety five percent of things.

00:05.120: And the room goes silent because I'm the only one with that problem.

00:05.120: 264 or sorry, H.

00:05.120: I'd like to see it continue down that path.

00:05.120: Well, hold on.

00:05.120: But thank you.

00:05.200: And then obviously the the application is

00:05.200: I associate Python with Unix, which I kind of played with a long time ago.

00:05.200: So if you're on the fence and you're like, oh, I don't know what I'm going to get, if you don't know you need a Mac Pro, you probably are going to be fine with an iMac.

00:05.200: So what they've done is they've done this finder trick that looks for the dot localized, and it will

00:05.200: You have to.

00:05.280: That wasn't the thing.

00:05.280: Libraries helped.

00:05.280: Check, check.

00:05.280: But so, and it is interesting because there have been so many times when you'll say, this doesn't work.

00:05.280: You know, you at one given point, you know, like, I don't like that, I don't like the three things I chose.

00:05.280: I couldn't function.

00:05.280: You can figure it out if you take a screen grab and open up in Preview or Photoshop, but it doesn't actually give you the resolution of it.

00:05.280: But the Switch Race X, the GPU can actually power a higher resolution screen that's actually built into the screen.

00:05.360: It's your hundredth show.

00:05.360: Let's talk a little bit about

00:05.360: So I have muted everybody, and now I don't see how to unmute you.

00:05.360: W talk about that for a second.

00:05.360: I would say that I will very publicly say that

00:05.360: Thank you, everybody.

00:05.440: Can you hear me?

00:05.440: I also spent the first 10 years of my career writing a column for Videomaker Magazine.

00:05.440: You know, to to be fair, like the flip side could be said, you know, some things that they require eight clicks and Premiere might require two clicks and final cut ten.

00:05.440: We'll have to ask the French and the Germans 'cause they have gender for their for their nouns and stuff like that.

00:05.440: I will say that the consolidate library

00:05.440: I would like to see my iTunes get split into multiple apps so that it's not so laggy.

00:05.440: Classic.

00:05.440: Give us some insane demonstrations

00:05.440: Hi, Joseph.

00:05.520: Wait a second.

00:05.520: Thank you.

00:05.520: What's that one called?

00:05.520: What about you, Bill?

00:05.520: And they just lit up.

00:05.520: I guess that's a plus.

00:05.520: Okay.

00:05.600: But it's pretty good, and I think you're going to enjoy the conversation.

00:05.600: So it's like I think finally, stuff is starting to level out.

00:05.600: Although Izo did just release a good one, if anyone's looking, it's the EV three two three seven, which is actually

00:05.600: I want finalized multicam clip.

00:05.600: I would agree.

00:05.600: And you'll see that the directory is subtly different in some way.

00:05.600: I know, but in my little tiny corner, Scott, this is great.

00:05.680: So I saw the same thing in 10.

00:05.680: Well, you can set up a time line in a red to have a red time line and you can shoot that stuff

00:05.680: Like in a music video like you you you have all these different

00:05.680: I'll let you know tomorrow.

00:05.680: I do a little bit of a demo on there at a little past the hour mark if you go check it out.

00:05.680: Oh, you're on a phone.

00:05.760: So enjoy this 100th episode of The Grill, and thank you so much for joining in.

00:05.760: And the other one was, they'll never figure it out because they don't use Final Cut.

00:05.760: I'll I'll look for it and send it to Chris.

00:05.760: And it's a great tool because it can do focus.

00:05.760: And I mean, I had a discussion, I was doing a big avid job for a couple of weeks ago

00:05.760: Another day to really kind of start to dial in something that you're happy to get feedback on.

00:05.760: We can, but not everything comes across and you still got sometimes a relinking.

00:05.760: So but as regards the actual world of file cut, the London scene is pretty cool.

00:05.760: Thanks for being a part of this.

00:05.840: Bill, what's your experience been?

00:05.840: That'll be fun.

00:05.840: Alex McLean, how small was the menu bar?

00:05.840: Um so I did a test and on the mid-range iMac five K that was in the Apple store, it took fifty seconds to do this.

00:05.840: This is just my own speculation.

00:05.840: So what you usually do is you would export your project

00:05.840: And you've demonstrated it.

00:05.840: And I think, sadly, what it comes down to is that, you know, the the t the File Cup

00:05.840: Okay, here's what we're doing.

00:05.920: Um that was a really good sign.

00:05.920: I'm sorry.

00:05.920: And then I hear what you're talking about.

00:05.920: But we have to respect the scale and differences of the kind of work that all sorts of editors do.

00:05.920: So Sam Messman, in the consulting world where you guys are traveling around the world teaching everybody Final Cut 10.

00:05.920: Yeah.

00:05.920: And I gotta and this is my biggest beef right now with the software.

00:05.920: So it's I think thank you for taking the time to do it.

00:06.000: We're going to join now.

00:06.000: Not quite that in the Bay Area.

00:06.000: They said, okay, don't we don't want you to be thinking about files and folders and stuff like that.

00:06.000: So I I don't I can't what what's different?

00:06.000: The free version is available which will do that as well.

00:06.000: And so when I do know everything, don't forget it.

00:06.000: A couple of days to kind of get a bass cut down.

00:06.000: Okay, so

00:06.000: It's 100 hours of me.

00:06.000: I think, though, you do have to unmute yourself.

00:06.000: There's some chairs, sit around.

00:06.080: I emailed it to her.

00:06.080: And also the new Clip Exporter.

00:06.080: Is Scott Simmons here?

00:06.080: Yeah.

00:06.080: GPU or Mrs.

00:06.080: And

00:06.080: Oh no.

00:06.080: Hold on.

00:06.160: Oh yeah, I should do that.

00:06.160: I mean, I'm happy with it.

00:06.160: Uh I can't tell you.

00:06.160: So for me, it's really just been like

00:06.160: But I think just the ease of setup and the way you can slip angles and add and remove angles in Final Cut 10

00:06.160: Flatten, finalize.

00:06.160: And that shouldn't be that complex.

00:06.160: We've been doing this for an hour.

00:06.160: I bought Final Cut Pro Legacy at NAB in 99 after I saw it at the show there.

00:06.240: Please go check out PremiumBeat.

00:06.240: Yes, yeah, we can hear you.

00:06.240: And um, that's not but by the way, that's not the mic you're actually talking into.

00:06.240: Scratch it.

00:06.240: Somebody chime in.

00:06.240: I do not like it for music.

00:06.240: And frankly, I think Scott, tell me and we will let go of the music video discussion with this last question.

00:06.240: And Alex Golner was.

00:06.240: It's fine.

00:06.240: Okay, go ahead, give me your laundry list.

00:06.240: That's why I paused in the middle.

00:06.320: I take that back.

00:06.320: So tell me, Bill, you said there was a million reasons why you're sitting outside by the pool.

00:06.320: I kind of looked at it like people tell you to shop in a grocery store.

00:06.320: You know, Philip Hodges has done a great job.

00:06.320: But what you can do, which I totally forgot in the five K, is that the idea of having a five K

00:06.320: I mean, quite honestly, what I'd really recommend if you're an editor is just get an iMac.

00:06.320: Yes.

00:06.320: So that's a kind of work the W word, that's a kind of workaround.

00:06.320: And these people are actually having edit assistants who are being taught how to assistant edit.

00:06.400: Do you ever have conversations with people where they're you know, they're saying, Oh, no, I absolutely can't do it and you go, Well, actually, there are some some tools here.

00:06.400: And I get this weird mismatch of terrible stuff.

00:06.400: I would agree.

00:06.480: Say hello to the next one.

00:06.480: We had to write some scripts on our side to even be able to work with a Final Cut XML.

00:06.480: You know, it depends on again, it depends on the job and what the job is and where the job's going.

00:06.480: Which I was which I was very interested because he's a music video cutter and I've cut few videos in Final Cut Ten and don't don't like it for videos, so I have not

00:06.480: It's totally impractical.

00:06.480: I'll be very curious to see where it goes from

00:06.480: 265 come out soon.

00:06.480: Classic.

00:06.560: So, anyway, we are live officially now, thanks to Alex Golner on the left.

00:06.560: And I'm glad I could join you.

00:06.560: And when you have when you can work around something

00:06.560: What do you what do you do frame accurately you mean like if you're flying you're going and you push the add edit button or the blade?

00:06.560: Once you create your group clip in Avid,

00:06.560: Depends on how much I'm getting paid.

00:06.560: So you could have a transition called Square, you could have a generator called Square, you could have a title called Square, they could all just could be called Square.

00:06.640: So um

00:06.640: And Music Video is a different beast because you have

00:06.640: Yeah, and now, you know, anybody dropping the knowledge.

00:06.640: What's that?

00:06.640: Explain.

00:06.640: And I was swearing at the machine yesterday.

00:06.640: But the problem is it won't display it because it doesn't know where the plug-in is.

00:06.640: No, one hundred.

00:06.720: It was fun.

00:06.720: And we all love it.

00:06.720: They're not multiple cameras for the most part shooting the same thing.

00:06.720: My head would explode if I didn't.

00:06.720: And if you talk to somebody who has a TiVo versus somebody who has a Comcast DVR, you will never get them to give up their TiVo.

00:06.720: Like, seriously?

00:06.720: Oh, oh, oh, now there's an idea.

00:06.720: That's a great idea.

00:06.720: Are we just announcing this right now?

00:06.720: I just want to say, I just got an iMessage response from my friend Alex Joseph Linaschke.

00:06.800: So I'm asking you just as a favor to me, go check it out.

00:06.800: What's your experience with it?

00:06.800: Are you sure?

00:06.800: And it's kind of like.

00:06.800: I don't remember that in Final Cut VII.

00:06.800: I'm sorry, Vid.

00:06.800: Barely.

00:06.800: It's a nice place.

00:06.880: Go through and switch that.

00:06.880: And you'll really demonstrate that really clear with some great talks with people from all over the world.

00:06.880: So here's what we're doing at NAB.

00:06.960: 264.

00:06.960: That's kind of what it's what it's supposed to do, right?

00:06.960: Yeah, I think one of the things that is very germane to the discussion of music videos, and I've and having

00:06.960: And my thing, my 20 angles was actually 20 angles of a performance.

00:07.040: She was able to email it to all of her

00:07.040: Arctic Whiteness.

00:07.040: And I think the point of that being that

00:07.040: And it was what what astonished me, what what sold me essentially

00:07.040: You can kind of right-clicking motion.

00:07.120: John?

00:07.120: So if you're

00:07.120: I was like, yeah, I don't know what I'm doing.

00:07.120: I couldn't hang.

00:07.120: GPU, can you do?

00:07.200: I had a bunch of guys on the air, and we recorded via Google Plus.

00:07.200: Thank you.

00:07.200: Still enough?

00:07.200: So it's kind of a cool little workaround.

00:07.200: But it takes eight clicks to do that, but it only takes two clicks to do the other thing.

00:07.200: Did you tell them they haven't been developing it for seven or eight years?

00:07.200: Come on playing right now.

00:07.200: Uh but yeah, it's

00:07.200: Well, you just use it to get back to your source clip.

00:07.200: I don't want to see any master clips.

00:07.200: Is this what you're looking for?

00:07.200: We don't run into these problems like what you're talking about because it's the same everywhere you go in all ten rooms.

00:07.200: I mean, it's like so many problems that we had, uh, even with our server, when we moved up to Yosemite, it, you know, it it fixed it.

00:07.200: Alex McLean, final thoughts, final words?

00:07.200: I am so thankful for this tool.

00:07.280: And one of the things I said is that, you know, I really enjoy these conversations, and I do.

00:07.280: Oh, okay.

00:07.280: Scott is here.

00:07.280: 3 to work very well with that one big project.

00:07.280: And then I hear you guys talk about it like, you know, it's your third arm.

00:07.280: What was it called in Final Cut 7?

00:07.280: Instead of it being lots of marketing folk coming along with products and stuff like that, or talking about

00:07.280: And an early ec only three more episodes to the big w episode one hundred three.

00:07.280: I don't think it's going to be a big group, so I think this will work.

00:07.280: And

00:07.360: And so it definitely chugs a little bit.

00:07.360: But you might

00:07.360: Yes.

00:07.360: I heard myself a half a second later.

00:07.360: Read one story about them.

00:07.360: Now we have an echo.

00:07.360: Yeah, that works too.

00:07.440: I'm waving for the audio listeners.

00:07.440: Really, why not?

00:07.440: Are you seeing any any like like it's having to drive so much display that it sort of slows down anything else?

00:07.440: But the good thing about the retino

00:07.440: Hey, you know what?

00:07.440: This is the this is the big one.

00:07.520: And

00:07.520: And I'm not asking anybody to violate any NDAs.

00:07.520: Match back to a keyword collection.

00:07.520: If not that

00:07.520: But here's what they could do that I think would serve multi editor workflows on a large, large percentage of people using Final Cut 10, okay?

00:07.520: It's nice to have a safe place for the nerds to hang out.

00:07.600: I'll tell you, it almost felt like a pool party because Bill Davis lives out down there in Arizona.

00:07.600: Anyway, so

00:07.600: How has it evolved in the last twelve months?

00:07.600: There are things that I'm not happy with that I wish were better.

00:07.600: I mean, that's that's really the the fundamental difference is there's actually a few people that like are like, oh, the all right, well

00:07.600: So if you've got

00:07.600: It's faster, it's much more stable than it used to be, which is a big plus.

00:07.600: The initial cut of performance, you know.

00:07.600: Do you know what I'm talking about?

00:07.600: So, yeah, you know what?

00:07.680: And I apologize, there's going to be all kinds of little

00:07.680: Okay.

00:07.680: You can do it really, really quickly with match framing and ganging.

00:07.680: But I literally this brings up the point.

00:07.680: I would recommend you guys put together some sort of a PDF or an e-book or something or other.

00:07.680: It's a perfect podcast.

00:07.680: How do I murder Bill at his swimming pool?

00:07.680: I'm so sorry, Bill.

00:07.760: My wife got it for me.

00:07.760: And this is because they're sending in their own video?

00:07.760: But I I mean, I think there are still some some people who like have a real, you know

00:07.760: That's okay.

00:07.760: So I uh about a year ago, I came up with this uh simple um GPU bound type

00:07.840: And then when Tempo one point two comes out, and it's such a big

00:07.840: I found two other plugins that seem to match the one that you've used.

00:07.840: And congratulations on 100 hours.

00:07.840: And signing off.

00:07.920: Okay, this is now going to be called the grocery store grill.

00:07.920: Scratch it.

00:07.920: Arctic Whiteness.

00:07.920: It's fun.

00:07.920: Mentally, it just didn't make any sense.

00:07.920: What are the thing what are the five five things we need more than anything else, Scott?

00:07.920: Type in, you know

00:07.920: Maybe we'll do it after AJA.

00:08.000: It was sort of that same point when we transitioned to Final Cut Ten.

00:08.000: So you've constantly got this flood of new people coming in with new ideas.

00:08.000: That sounds like the Scott Simmons I know.

00:08.000: I mean, it's that is not one thing.

00:08.000: It was a very small little thing.

00:08.080: Is that true?

00:08.080: Well, I guess I could use it now.

00:08.080: Scott, hey, I'm going to rewind a little bit.

00:08.080: You guys you guys talk amongst yourself.

00:08.080: He's on an iPhone, though.

00:08.160: That's pretty astonishing.

00:08.160: Let me let me guess.

00:08.160: Insanity ensuing.

00:08.160: Last comments.

00:08.240: com.

00:08.240: Sam, you've been out there teaching the world Final Cut 10

00:08.240: And I have to constantly watch myself about that.

00:08.240: Talk about that, yeah.

00:08.240: It looked like a glint at the top of the menu.

00:08.240: Like what's the current

00:08.240: Can I point it to can I point you to it, please?

00:08.240: But I'm just grateful to Apple, and I'm grateful to you, Chris, for providing this forum for people to talk about

00:08.240: And I've had a blast.

00:08.320: And you send it out, and this happened to me just last week

00:08.320: But it can also solve real world problems for real people, and they can make money, and they can make careers, and they can

00:08.320: I've never had I've I haven't had that poke up as being an issue.

00:08.320: But that means now, of course, if you have exactly the same plugin in a slightly different place or a different category,

00:08.320: You just go, Yeah, you idiot, that's where it is

00:08.400: And it'll sort out you can set up your own folder hierarchies when you're exporting the

00:08.400: No, I don't think it would.

00:08.400: So people can be working on different parts of the library at the same time.

00:08.400: And when they consolidate, everything is going to go to the same directory.

00:08.480: I want to thank Francois and Danny and the whole team over there for supporting what we're doing.

00:08.480: Yeah, I gave him a compressor droplet and

00:08.480: You know, maybe depending on how you have to sink, you know, half a day to sink and then

00:08.480: Bill Davidson, final comments?

00:08.480: Stay in your factory.

00:08.480: I'm gonna do the AJA party when everyone comes out drunk.

00:08.560: I'm going to sleep.

00:08.560: I I feel that for me it doesn't crash, I don't I I have hardly any problems, so unfortunately I'm not a good person

00:08.560: So that was the first thing.

00:08.560: But now

00:08.560: And we really want to.

00:08.560: But with this utility called Display Menu, you can actually set the iMac.

00:08.560: I mean, you know, we have a Mac Pro and we have it downstairs in the party suite where we do the heavy lifting.

00:08.560: I just want to see the favorites only.

00:08.640: So.

00:08.640: Anyway, sorry.

00:08.640: I'm doing it.

00:08.720: I mean, my clients are happy.

00:08.720: I hope.

00:08.720: And this is a discussion we've had many, many times.

00:08.720: I would like to see Horizon, isn't it?

00:08.720: On the third floor, I believe, of the Cosmopolitan Hotel.

00:08.800: Oh, well.

00:08.800: Yeah.

00:08.800: So if you can mute yourself if you're not talking.

00:08.800: Alex, stop.

00:08.880: We don't ref use the P word necessarily, because it's of course it's always been professional and professional doesn't mean anything.

00:08.880: Then you can go back to the to the sixteen, watch it again and see if I had just

00:08.880: That's on.

00:08.880: And I'll let him do the official announcement about what that's about.

00:08.880: Yeah.

00:08.960: Dupe detection in the timeline.

00:09.040: So it's quite odd that

00:09.040: That's been the biggest change I've sort of seen.

00:09.040: And so until you really sit down and have that experience, you're just not going to get it.

00:09.120: I can tell you a lot about retail theory because I spent a lot of my career in retail, but let's not go there.

00:09.120: I mean, that was fascinating.

00:09.120: I'm fashion is not my forte.

00:09.120: Perfect name.

00:09.120: Because yep, ClipExporter is really cool for getting

00:09.120: Like you have to do it all in the browser.

00:09.120: But talking to the two of you guys, I realize that

00:09.120: I'm really a hack.

00:09.120: That's what I meant.

00:09.120: I was like, I'm just going to go back to making my lower thirds in After Effects.

00:09.120: Well, no, it's been great.

00:09.200: Oh, yeah.

00:09.200: That's the way we roll on the grill, Alex.

00:09.280: No.

00:09.280: But it's the feature set has improved.

00:09.280: But as far as I'm concerned, the Mac Pro is largely for

00:09.360: Let's start with Scott.

00:09.360: How do we help

00:09.440: So it's a week.

00:09.520: Now, actually, I'm going to say something about the 5K iMac.

00:09.520: And if you want, this is probably the setting that Alex McLean and

00:09.520: We don't need you.

00:09.600: Are you going to join?

00:09.600: All right.

00:09.600: This was the first one, and it was something that let me build it.

00:09.600: So no, I'm afraid not.

00:09.600: Yeah, I mean, it's just really easy to get caught up in this idea that

00:09.600: It's just more exciting.

00:09.600: That might be ridiculously late.

00:09.680: But considering it's database driven, it shouldn't.

00:09.680: Sam, stay again.

00:09.680: I just have to hit, you know, go to next camera, go to next angle.

00:09.680: But yeah, I dunno.

00:09.680: I was in this horrible class this week.

00:09.680: So, thanks for having me on.

00:09.680: You have a

00:09.760: They always tell you, look at the outsides first.

00:09.760: Don't know what that means.

00:09.760: Well, funnily enough, I'd actually recommend X to seven.

00:09.760: Dropping knowledge bombs.

00:09.760: You thought you could turn those off.

00:09.760: But the major difference is that

00:09.760: They're all professionals, but they're just different kinds of professionals.

00:09.840: I think, I think everybody's been a guest.

00:09.840: I also liked the other side, the other periphery, which was sharing.

00:09.840: And I think

00:09.920: I got a call today.

00:09.920: I mean, it's not like every other system never had sluggish moments, dear Lord, but um

00:09.920: I personally, I think I only get plugins if they're on the app store.

00:10.000: Great music, it's great metadata, easy to search, easy to find, great stuff.

00:10.000: I'm not familiar with that one.

00:10.000: That's that is that's a legitimate workaround, but you could do that in Avid or Premiere as well.

00:10.000: And I found it's it's much it's a much messier

00:10.000: Believe me, you'll still be seeing render bars.

00:10.000: Or I just want to see the used clips only.

00:10.080: No, they're not.

00:10.080: Hi, everyone.

00:10.080: And I know that we've had the discussion that

00:10.080: How would they just come on and do an episode with you?

00:10.160: With no, if you know, you have duplicate media, it ought to be.

00:10.160: No, uh remind me what that is?

00:10.160: Alex Golner, final comments?

00:10.240: And you know

00:10.320: Give me one of them.

00:10.320: It's a nice prop, but I don't think that's the one you're actually using.

00:10.320: I want to ask you a question.

00:10.320: But the problem with auditions that I have

00:10.320: And so I think that sometimes.

00:10.320: How do I unmute?

00:10.320: I learn stuff

00:10.399: I

00:10.400: I love that.

00:10.400: And actually now we've gone from deal breakers to, you know, it'd be nice if

00:10.480: Why would you use it?

00:10.480: Is this the right one?

00:10.480: But on the third floor, I believe

00:10.560: Because the thing is that

00:10.560: It's more interesting.

00:10.640: Because our solution is just upload it to Vimeo.

00:10.640: I mean, there are some times that it's picked for me, and I

00:10.640: But I just don't like

00:10.640: So assistance can be

00:10.720: We're wrapping this up.

00:10.720: It's been good fun.

00:10.800: And you're like, what this is like

00:10.800: It's a pleasure being in the room.

00:10.880: So

00:10.960: Then we have

00:10.960: Is that correct?

00:10.960: But the answer is what I the idea is

00:10.960: That's the big number, right?

00:11.040: No, I'm not going to be able to do that.

00:11.120: So again, I think it all kind of comes out in the wash.

00:11.120: The source clip is already in your timeline.

00:11.200: I think it's continuing to mature.

00:11.200: This has been a great tool.

00:11.280: Let the professional apps look after it.

00:11.280: I think Scott's ears are smoking.

00:11.280: But we will find a time and there will be a DCC event.

00:11.360: I think I bought it a week later.

00:11.440: In other words, an extra filter.

00:11.440: So I've been with this from day one.

00:11.520: But it was.

00:11.520: It's not my world, yes.

00:11.520: And I'm like, yeah, of course it works.

00:11.600: Can't you actually adjust that in settings and system preferences?

00:11.600: Or it's just oh, sorry.

00:11.680: Right.

00:11.680: And

00:11.760: They're but they're both really, really good, way better than what AppIT has these days.

00:11.840: So the GPU can re can

00:11.840: So, uh,

00:11.840: So yeah.

00:11.840: Not a problem.

00:11.920: I'm not even going to tell you what it was for.

00:11.920: What do you have to say, Scott?

00:12.000: So

00:12.000: Let's shoot the guitarist for a while.

00:12.000: That's the important one.

00:12.080: I have tried.

00:12.240: The whole

00:12.240: You know what?

00:12.240: You know, you could be a professional lawyer, you could be a professional

00:12.320: Don't go to the middle of the store.

00:12.320: You know, for

00:12.320: So it's happy like that.

00:12.320: But it's actually been a

00:12.320: Yeah, I know.

00:12.400: So now it's become

00:12.400: Virtually.

00:12.480: Alex?

00:12.480: John, last comments?

00:12.560: Get the iMac.

00:12.560: So that's my thoughts.

00:12.720: Bye, Sam.

00:12.720: He he gets he gets his way late at night.

00:12.800: So it's all you know, it's all

00:12.800: Yeah.

00:12.800: That's what I tell people all the time.

00:12.800: I I have begged them

00:12.960: And I um

00:13.040: What?

00:13.120: Yeah.

00:13.200: Golner?

00:13.200: What do you mean like

00:13.280: Let's shoot the drummer for a while.

00:13.360: Thanks.

00:13.600: Good grief.

00:13.840: Right.

00:13.840: Later, guys.

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