Episode 88
FCG088 - 48 Hours in Utah (feat. Danny Rubio)
“If you’re not doing what you want to do NOW, you’re never going to do it.” Devin Graham Danny Rubio is Executive Producer at Weber State University in Utah and manages multiple edit systems and editors and they work almost exclusively in FCPX. Recently a group of more than 20 students entered a 48 hour film festival where they entered a Musical submission. Danny has never cut on anything but FCPX. Hear his story from a fresh outlook without the baggage of the past.
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Featuring
- Chris Fenwick
- Danny Rubio - @drbe4t
- Danny’s new user group - @nufcpx User Group
Transcription
00:00.001: And I was like, no, this is something I really want to do.
00:00.080: To use the computers, and I was like, Well, I'll just download the trial, and then if I want to get it, I'll I'll get it right.
00:00.080: And you're going to do voiceover, right?
00:00.080: 48-hour film festivals.
00:00.160: So we're going to get into that shortly.
00:00.160: Twitter, by the way, not like they need any more followers, but at Premium Beat.
00:00.160: And he's like, Hey, I've been doing all this stuff and I'm loving Final Got Ten.
00:00.160: It was fun, sort of, bouncy, kind of uh banjo y sort of thing.
00:00.160: Premium Beat is exactly what it should be.
00:00.160: Thing is from Devin Graham, and he says, If you're not doing what you want to do now, you're never gonna do it.
00:00.160: You know, wish that we can get the musical.
00:00.160: It was about 28 people.
00:00.160: Because the libraries didn't come out until December, like I want to say like December 20th or so, as I recall.
00:00.160: They've got like the retina MacBooks and they don't have any issues with it.
00:00.160: So I take a look at it and I go, this is that seems normal.
00:00.160: and saying, okay, so these guys are using like you using the lean library and like, all right, you know, do we do we do that?
00:00.160: And like, oh, that's really cool.
00:00.160: So anyway, the lean library.
00:00.160: I'm gonna make like Star Wars fan film.
00:00.160: from the year two thousand to about twenty eleven called Automatic Duck.
00:00.160: I'm excited to see where Final Cut starts to grow and all the different changes.
00:00.160: and then he brings it into Final Cut and then multicams the whole thing and cuts it up real quick and then has it for the show, right?
00:00.160: Pause here a second.
00:00.160: Uh there's many there's a 422 there's a 422 HQ there's a 4444 there's a 42 I think I d I I s I sent mine out in a four two two HQ
00:00.160: as i like i'm watching the interview yep and i just do command shift i know each of the the like the talking sessions and then as i after as and then i
00:00.160: and then when I wanted to come out, oh, and then it would block out those individual clips in the clip that I had.
00:00.160: and I think it was one of the FCP works.
00:00.160: And so he was doing it for like a a random shoot for like a like outdoors thing that he had a lot of footage for.
00:00.160: You don't have to look at anything else.
00:00.160: Okay, so E being append to the end of it, W being wedge, wedge and then insert and ripple, or Q as being an overlay, because the little tail on the Q is just like the overlay.
00:00.160: In the Utah area, there's actually a huge YouTube, like there's not a huge YouTube, but there's a lot of famous YouTubers that are from Utah.
00:00.160: I tell you, if I w if I was you at your age, my goal would be to be like Devin Supertramp.
00:00.160: And that's why I kind of want I want to s get this final cut group.
00:00.160: It's kind of like this one called energetic, but I want to make it tilt from the other direction.
00:00.160: It's too sensitive.
00:00.160: Even remotely possible, but good grief.
00:00.240: Turn that up a little.
00:00.240: Hey, Chris, how's it going?
00:00.240: I thought it was about it twenty five minutes ago.
00:00.240: And I haven't even heard about Final Cut or at all.
00:00.240: So everyone who like edits usually will edit unless they have Premiere, they they edit in Faunca in in our in our studio.
00:00.240: they're all really slow.
00:00.240: And recently, our advisor, he's made a huge lot of different changes because it used to be strictly new stuff.
00:00.240: Now, correct me if I'm wrong, when they do that, they usually have like an overriding theme and then there's like a character name and a prop.
00:00.240: So, we didn't have any preparation of any idea.
00:00.240: Pulled the little piece of paper and we got musical or western because some people don't like can't do musical so they just they go with western right right so I pulled musical and I just I was we were pumped in our it was literally you
00:00.240: You wanted musical.
00:00.240: and he was an entrepreneur.
00:00.240: their dream of them singing.
00:00.240: So being now, this is a legitimate complaint about Final Cut in the last year.
00:00.240: for a piece of software and some pretty substantial changes in your one year of using it.
00:00.240: He's one of the most entertaining guys on the internet right now.
00:00.240: Yeah, and it's it still doing it on ten one three?
00:00.240: in a place where you're not just seething with anger.
00:00.240: Yeah, there you go.
00:00.240: Yeah, I go nothing.
00:00.240: And then bring it over.
00:00.240: footage for a distr a school district that needed an intern to come in and do help them with some projects that would they would do for schools
00:00.240: that they would they and they were pretty good.
00:00.240: and do the workflows.
00:00.240: And that's the one thing I'm like I've been trying to figure out and listening to all the different um uh uh cutters that are coming in on the show and
00:00.240: this essentials to digital media class, come into our class and they are they always ask me, how I'm trying to do this in fun.
00:00.240: And that's six hard drives all rated together.
00:00.240: On these hard drives, we have several job folders, and absolutely everything for that job goes in that folder.
00:00.240: I have a folder that, and we have dubbed it, we call it FCPX created.
00:00.240: When you put stuff in the library, it's actually in the library.
00:00.240: So, like, for example, I would hold on, let me finish this because this is really important.
00:00.240: If somebody doesn't realize that you've moved that, they could open it in the other room and say, Oh, yeah, I got that email too.
00:00.240: And so what we'll do is, we do this is the exact workflow.
00:00.240: root around in there.
00:00.240: I was in one suite accessing a job that was in another suite.
00:00.240: And the third suite was accessing a job that was in my suite.
00:00.240: I have a couple of clamp lights and then you know I'm like, okay, well, I'm good to go.
00:00.240: going on an LES mission and wanting to get involved.
00:00.240: Baggage, you know, in other words, you know, legacy applications and workflows that you are, you know, hampered down with.
00:00.240: having across networks and pulling different libraries and working on them, or the running gun shoot of, you know, that, okay, we'll keep everything in the library and we'll just back everything up just in case.
00:00.240: But it's like a whole lot of baggage.
00:00.240: is the editing part.
00:00.240: Yeah.
00:00.240: that they're trying to work out.
00:00.240: and it reads it just fine.
00:00.240: and we plug that right into the TriCaster, and then we drop it in and it it's good to go.
00:00.240: 60 D's and Vixia's Canon Vixia.
00:00.240: Wait, did you did you say a mom blogger?
00:00.240: to shoot something for him like, yeah, I would love to.
00:00.240: I got really fast doing the internship on how to cut and final cut interviews because I do the command shift I and O
00:00.240: And I was like, man, this is taking too long.
00:00.240: that I've created, I just keep them in a library and then I drop I just drop that I grab the it's like your what is it, your template file.
00:00.240: on an S C P Co like link to a video or what?
00:00.240: Okay.
00:00.240: And that's only for one single sound bite from a long clip.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: I can click on one of them and it will be highlighted yellow.
00:00.240: about Command Shift INO?
00:00.240: Quick packages for to ask people things on campus and whatnot.
00:00.240: derive multiple favorites from a single clip.
00:00.240: That means I don't have to go to the sound department and look for the sound file that goes with this thing.
00:00.240: Kind of went old there.
00:00.240: He's worked so hard.
00:00.240: What is the advantage of having a physical meetup with the other Final Cut 10 users in your area as opposed to doing
00:00.240: the information.
00:00.240: you know, YouTube and Vimeo and all these other sources is that people can do and contribute to a community from anywhere.
00:00.240: and to talk about it, you know, they're more than welcome to.
00:00.240: create a feature just for you in Final Cut 10, what would that be?
00:00.240: Or actually, it's going to say open a copy in motion.
00:00.240: but I do wish that there was a keyboard modifier that I could click on, as there is in many other parts of Final Cut Ten.
00:00.240: That looks nice.
00:00.240: Like I don't like the slider for some reason, but if I hover over the number, click and push up or down, up or down.
00:00.240: Because they have some of those presets are pretty good.
00:00.240: But I literally have never used them in a project.
00:00.240: I have a a buddy who does cut he does a lot of After Effects stuff and the dynamic leaking between.
00:00.240: Hey, so Danny, I should let you go.
00:00.240: Night Twenty on T uh Twitter.
00:00.240: At Dr.
00:00.240: You know, his friend Josh with the audio background was instrumental in them doing their musical for the film festival.
00:00.240: And it's about how he uses Final Cut 10 basically as a tracking tool in recording high quality audio right into the VO tool and using it to create
00:00.240: But Michael Cioni from Lightiron did an amazing, amazing tutorial.
00:00.320: I started watching something on a website and like 25 minutes.
00:00.320: We have one, two, three, four, five.
00:00.320: been able to they've done a lot of changes into actual trying to get like real productions.
00:00.320: and it'd be a lot of fun to do a musical in forty forty eight hours 'cause he loves writing music.
00:00.320: Currently, I have twenty eight people in my crew, and that's the biggest that they've had in a long time.
00:00.320: And so we did this, we shot everything and we did one shoot for one song, or we did the opening scene at this comic book shop that we sent out
00:00.320: the day bo so I called them and said, hey, we got musical, Josh started writing songs, and then I need you and you, some of the people, to go find locations.
00:00.320: And we'd come in and shoot in there.
00:00.320: and we had most of the first and second song or first song all done uh and being it was ready to be polished.
00:00.320: 'Cause we ended up editing on an older it was so this was at the time when 10.
00:00.320: to ten one one, which was a few bug fixes and actually fairly unstable, I contend.
00:00.320: So, you know, I started using it.
00:00.320: And so I was I and it was towards the end of my my trial of you know, because I was cutting my first video piece for my my my class and I didn't want to go into this the class
00:00.320: But I felt I loved that the final cut was changing so much and that there would ch it would every time the changes would come out
00:00.320: that they would I felt that they were coming out great.
00:00.320: that um like it just 'cause on some of the so like on the retina ones and a couple of the other wo uh some of the other guys that in the studio
00:00.320: Like, oh, I do.
00:00.320: it's very telling when you don't see the same problem on various types of hardware.
00:00.320: It's how the code interacts with who knows?
00:00.320: putting a new font on a computer can make software start crashing.
00:00.320: And I said to him, I go, I was just here last night and it was running fine.
00:00.320: And he goes, What?
00:00.320: Good.
00:00.320: My instructor, he's a huge, he's a huge supporter of Fanuka.
00:00.320: with as many of the Fanuka users that we can and try to build up the community out here because I know Utah I mean Utah in general is one of the places that people love to come film
00:00.320: Typically, what we'll do is we will when we start a project for the human needs, we decide what room that should be in.
00:00.320: It was whoever was before Michael Matsdorf.
00:00.320: So are you so like let's say, you know, a certain company like the BMW, like you said, you would have a BMW folder and then in the folder you would have the library and then the cache file?
00:00.320: And that's where we point the quote unquote media folder.
00:00.320: Right.
00:00.320: That library out, you now actually have two copies of that, okay?
00:00.320: Okay, so 2014, October 8th.
00:00.320: To which I would say, really, because it's working just fine.
00:00.320: Well, I don't know.
00:00.320: But and I think that final cut being able be you know being 300 bucks and being so robust and s seeing not only the community and the the
00:00.320: To kind of see things a little bit through like your eyes.
00:00.320: Yeah, I I you know, and this is for, you know, all the you know, I look forward to being able to one day be able to be an assistant editor or e actually edit something, um, like with the one girl who c helped, you know, do that whole feature film.
00:00.320: out in Russia or whatever.
00:00.320: But I definitely think looking at it in a in a more of a basic way rather than, oh, I'm going to sit here and do like a I have you know, waiting for all the footage to come in and
00:00.320: having to to slowly when you could be cooking out a whole you know full like pieces before the shoots even done right and
00:00.320: So that's all done in like a TriCaster, but if anything happens that we need to do something, we throw that into Final Cut.
00:00.320: Is it you know, where's the workflow?
00:00.320: Whether it be for packages for our broadcast show, for the cat calls, what we call it, the five-day week show.
00:00.320: I believe we're due.
00:00.320: making your files just straight four, two, two, it'll be a much smaller file, will look will visually look the same to your eye.
00:00.320: Then I s you know, hit the the E you know, appendage and I just drop it down as I go.
00:00.320: And so I'm like having to like sift through what was important and what was not.
00:00.320: as I was watching the file.
00:00.320: you're actually enabling the ability to pull multiple sound bites and actually leave a sort of ghosted highlight on the clip for multiple
00:00.320: Clips that you can multiple shots that you pull from a single clip.
00:00.320: considered using here.
00:00.320: So typically in the film world, if you go, Yeah, I'm shooting MOS, it means I'm just shooting wild imagery and I'm not recording any audio at the time.
00:00.320: And I'm going to have to look it up because it's called geoagnostic.
00:00.320: Okay.
00:00.320: Except for the poss the possible exception of being very close to an airport, because he's going to spend a lot of time in them.
00:00.320: something like what PixelCore is doing, where they're doing the virtual user group where people from literally all over the world can join in.
00:00.320: I think would be great.
00:00.320: So what you're actually saying is you're you sort of dig the what do they call it, dynamic linking.
00:00.320: Is it PixelCore?
00:00.320: I want to it to slow down the puck into molasses mode.
00:00.320: Where I was doing a lot of cropping.
00:00.320: it will change the way my crop goes, even if it's a left-right crop, okay?
00:00.320: And pick a couple just to see if I can get the like the right coloring and then try to slightly adjust.
00:00.320: In the color board.
00:00.320: Okay, so where do I need to get the pucks to make sure that I'm going to get the right coloring that I want without having to?
00:00.320: As of yet, but I'm just enough to totally screw it.
00:00.320: K-N-I-T-E 20.
00:00.320: Okay, Danny.
00:00.320: Um but um so I know I kind of went down a little bit of a rat hole into the forty-eight hour film festival thing, but um always wanted to do that.
00:00.320: That's Michael Sioni from Lightiron, Huge Final Cut 10 Advocate.
00:00.320: All right, well, that's it for this episode.
00:00.320: So, um, but but go to go to the iTunes.
00:00.400: In Utah, and I got to say, there's a quote you're going to hear in here, and it's from a guy who I'm a huge fan of.
00:00.400: And then I'm I'm LDS, which is if the movie Meet the Mormons is going to be is a huge thing coming out this week.
00:00.400: So I ended up getting so I ended up getting final code.
00:00.400: I mean, we do what we can.
00:00.400: So the one we didn't so the one we did in this over the summer was the Salt Lake City 48 Film Festival.
00:00.400: And we uh so we he we wrote all the music.
00:00.400: Well, it but it was a huge jump.
00:00.400: the color the color pasting color attributes bug fix primarily and a few other things.
00:00.400: different sequences or others.
00:00.400: There is a guy whose job is to sift through all of that stuff.
00:00.400: Right.
00:00.400: and then have the library on the hard drive.
00:00.400: Right.
00:00.400: And that's the one I'm going to open up and start working.
00:00.400: Touching all that media, and it's actually rendering to the cache file across the network, to the cache file that's across the network.
00:00.400: You know, the exact right way to do something.
00:00.400: And so, but I've seen, and I'm taking a premiere class right now.
00:00.400: I'm like, I can cut, I can make all the moves in two less three three less clicks, two less clicks.
00:00.400: and have it be moving well along the way of having the workflow of bringing down all the footage and in into the timeline and have it look the way I want it to look.
00:00.400: You know, it actually makes a lot of sense as long as you're not bringing the old school baggage.
00:00.400: Well, yeah, that would work.
00:00.400: just get something that makes you do what you will want to do to or what do what you love.
00:00.400: So we have so the way we have set up, we have uh we do broadcast stuff.
00:00.400: Or highlight reel, and they throw that all into Final Cut.
00:00.400: Just like shortcut templates of what people have put up on the on the website, on like online in general.
00:00.400: That I knew about, but I don't use, so I had forgotten about it.
00:00.400: You could do multiple in and out points in one clip and favorite them and then have them all in your favorite.
00:00.400: Man on the street.
00:00.400: That runs specific, you know, content for online people here in state Utah or wherever I go
00:00.400: I don't.
00:00.400: I do want to take the pixel core or the the color course, the color correcting course that the guys over
00:00.400: The that's probably one of the bigger things is trying to find the right pucks to move to get the right color correcting that or the right coloring.
00:00.400: Right.
00:00.400: I'm and I'm probably a little b I'm probably good enough to m screw it really hard.
00:00.480: And I just I love the premium beat.
00:00.480: on their blog and their website.
00:00.480: your the the stuff that you're doing.
00:00.480: and we and we actually entered a 48 hour film contest where we shot at it, um did a musical all in 48 hours and we cut it all in final cut.
00:00.480: And that was a lot of fun.
00:00.480: You know, I'm just gonna purchase it.
00:00.480: a lot more.
00:00.480: Just Apple being told, yes, another system crashed.
00:00.480: I know that some fonts are important fonts.
00:00.480: You know, computers didn't exist when I was your age.
00:00.480: They wouldn't do it.
00:00.480: A guy who's going to a Mormon school says, I've been listening to my podcast religiously.
00:00.480: And so I would love to create a community of like people who are using Final Cut in the actual industry to come out and to be able here in the local community to come out and share what they do, how they're using it.
00:00.480: And we don't have like a s a specific workflow that everyone can if like we're working on a community project, that we can just share the files in or share the library in some form or fashion.
00:00.480: with more client involved.
00:00.480: for somebody to be w in that room with them.
00:00.480: is we take the the lean library.
00:00.480: Okay.
00:00.480: and not have to like set it you know, cut it or get all the clips in and then have to cut in to make it look the way I want it to look.
00:00.480: I think part of my mission with this show is to get all my old timey peers
00:00.480: And the premier guy, he he has really great ideas, but he's he's he was really slow at getting me the content.
00:00.480: But having these the different shows and being able to see other people 'cause we have like we have a guy who does he does a radio talk show and he goes in takes a couple of cameras
00:00.480: That's a thing nowadays, Chris.
00:00.480: six to or maybe four different clips of segments of them actually what I wanted talking and then I could just either as I went
00:00.480: I was sitting here listening to you talk about this, and I'm like, I think it's just IO, I.
00:00.480: Hit the E, the appendage button and drop it down to the timeline, or have all of them at the end and hit E, and they would all drop down.
00:00.480: Um there from YouTube.
00:00.480: area, but if we want if there are people who want to join and talk about Final Cut who are online and want to chime in, I would love that too.
00:00.480: That and the smart one would be the control key, because I want to think of it like I want more control.
00:00.480: trying to get the right like after fixing the you know the the the exposure the you know having fixing the saturation or whatever right um and then going in to get the right coloring I feel like it's or being able to zoom in
00:00.560: I looked at my bank account and I was like, I have $300.
00:00.560: Right.
00:00.560: I can't even remember the the character's name right now.
00:00.560: So we were calling in our advisor who was also trying to do what kind of stuff was slowing down the render?
00:00.560: and we had troubles with exporting because we were cutting on the the older IMAX and they were taking forever to render out.
00:00.560: Last fall semester.
00:00.560: That alarming to you as you were like trying to get your feet like, oh, gee, they keep changing everything on me.
00:00.560: Where I'm like, okay, well, if I want to do this, I really got to start doing what I want to do now.
00:00.560: Just with the way the library is handled, I could see it took me a little bit to figure out how the events were and the projects were lined up.
00:00.560: And since I'm a one-man band, like I can't remember who was on your show a couple of shows back, but they said that they were in one man too, and they keep they do one project and then they have different events of
00:00.560: I open I do a library specific for that show and then do it for whatever the specific ev um event or package I'm doing, I do an event for that.
00:00.560: Very normal to me.
00:00.560: barking out orders.
00:00.560: A actual media folder.
00:00.560: That library, we time and date stamp it by appending to the end of the name.
00:00.560: Avid to after effects, or avid to final cut, or final cut to aftereffects.
00:00.560: Overkill.
00:00.560: But currently I just got a I did a client shoot for an intro to a website like a bl mom blogger who wanted a new intro.
00:00.560: I was like interviewing lunch ladies about nutrition and ha they're what they're doing 'cause they were doing a training video.
00:00.560: we're doing we're doing our the degree I'm doing is a digital media degree.
00:00.560: So I don't mind if people want.
00:00.560: Now that's by dragging on the numbers.
00:00.560: I've been kind of slow on the Twitter handout, NUSCPX, which is the Northern Utah final group that we're trying to start.
00:00.560: From that handle and the next and for coming up now, just be able to get more people on Final Cut in Utah and the area surrounding and around the world that they want to join.
00:00.640: I should really have the name for it.
00:00.640: And then it needs to be a certain duration, right?
00:00.640: Yeah.
00:00.640: and I put it so I I threw it into Final Cut I downloaded, put it in my font folder, and then I opened up I tried to open up in Final Cut and it crashed.
00:00.640: most people would not attach their computer that they use to edit to the Internet.
00:00.640: So you are you so you are you keeping the cache files on your your distinct hard like your distinct computer or are you doing the cache files?
00:00.640: Functionality.
00:00.640: the different ways and different workflows that people have done that can do and do do in the in the final in in the whole realm.
00:00.640: a recap or a rundown of what's happening on campus, cool events that are going on that day and coming up.
00:00.640: And it will probably be easier on the TriCaster.
00:00.640: And I do like that I can make motion templates and then have that just there on my hard drive.
00:00.640: Right, right, right.
00:00.640: But then if I deselect that clip, I'm still going to see my highlights there.
00:00.640: Okay?
00:00.640: Well so my question to you is, what is the advantage?
00:00.640: You know, music beds, he's actually making them, you know, his selfie.
00:00.720: All the music writing at night and then and the scripting and a little bit of the storyboarding.
00:00.720: Edited the final sequence because that was the hardest one.
00:00.720: the it not totally changed, but it it fundamentally changed a little bit the way libraries worked.
00:00.720: a bumper or an inch like some sort of like a a logo for the 40 Allen Film Festival.
00:00.720: frankly, the computers could just barely do what we were asking them to do anyway.
00:00.720: And it's been a cool it's fun because a lot of the all the like PR kids who have to come and take this
00:00.720: We have a sports show that we have d done, and then we have a late night show that it's trying to be in production.
00:00.720: And so and I haven't had we 'cause usually I'll either publish straight to the studio's YouTube page or well I'll publish right to my YouTube page.
00:00.720: It shouldn't take I'm going to throw it, it'd probably take me about an hour to edit the whole thing.
00:00.720: Text tool, and I'm going to scroll scroll through all of them.
00:00.800: And so I ended up getting a Mac.
00:00.800: So we get this we get this I pulled it out we got the the details the the we had to have
00:00.800: And he wrote three different songs for each of the individual nerds, and we went to each individual, like their like
00:00.800: That piece, and then we after each one, we wrapped up the final shoot at about 11:30.
00:00.800: Like, that's you can't say nothing and say, oh, yeah, but I installed a game.
00:00.800: And so I was trying to learn as many shortcuts as I could, and then I stumbled upon your podcast, and I listen I've been listening forever since.
00:00.800: So 141008 underscore 2130, and we drag that into the FCPX created folder.
00:00.800: Because I I was doing a and that took me a while to figure out how the best way of doing that because I was like, there's got to be a because at first I was just doing the I know and then I know as I was going.
00:00.800: And now that is the active clip that's ready to drop into the timeline if I hit the letter E or W or Q, depending on how I want to drop it in.
00:00.800: That means it's kind of a bastardized German phrase, mitt out spricken without spe without sound.
00:00.800: Even if they're using YouTube, like who is using Final Cut?
00:00.800: No problem.
00:00.800: I think like I don't know maybe it maybe it's just I want maybe a quicker link maybe just because I have seen the like the the link between premiere and final cut or premiere and after effects
00:00.800: So there's an argument for using dragging on the numbers as opposed to using the stupid sliders.
00:00.880: He kinda has an audio background, kinda like you, but he does a lot of horse recordings of that's a whole nother topic.
00:00.880: And I got to tell you, at the end of the day, we had a little powwow.
00:00.880: He's a longtime avid and premier editor.
00:00.880: Being able not to keep up with reading or having too much stuff in his bogging down.
00:00.960: And so I got so I started out in premiere in high school and I was like, oh, premiere this, premiere that.
00:00.960: I love it, Danny.
00:00.960: No, and it I like I tell everybody, like, so I've been telling my instructor, I'm like, you know, Drew, you gotta, you gotta listen to the you know, I gotta listen to the FCP girl, man.
00:00.960: We have three main edit suites in our little office here, okay?
00:00.960: There are many times where it's like, oh, I need to actually touch that for a half a day, or I need to work on it maybe all day.
00:00.960: Are you really busy with schoolwork or what's going on?
00:00.960: So then he can live anywhere and he can do whatever.
00:00.960: In any form or fashion to be able to do something.
00:00.960: All kinds of new business ventures, if you will.
00:01.040: And I'll bring it over to the editor.
00:01.040: Like religiously, because I found that I could so quickly say, Danny, when when
00:01.040: But when you use the lean library, trim library functionality, you can point that stuff to be in another folder.
00:01.040: Now, you point your cache file to that other folder, that other location, and then you, because Final Cut does not allow you to open a library across a network.
00:01.040: And see if they actually they start to pick up the pace on motion as well.
00:01.040: having it be able to like just bring up a quick view that you could do that quick edit in.
00:01.040: Then I start to drag.
00:01.040: Frankly, I would love to be able to dynamically link a handful of shots into After Fix.
00:01.040: Beat, but it's spelled D R B E for T and then they can also find me.
00:01.120: I mean, and that can be like the most people think that so many of those things are so innocuous.
00:01.120: I go, this little icon in your menu bar.
00:01.120: You're kind of young, but sorry.
00:01.120: So there are the hardcore network super nerds out there, and I say that with the utmost love and respect, who will tell you that doesn't work.
00:01.120: And if you do what I would naturally do, which is I and O, you're going to mark an in and an out point for that clip, and then you can hit the letter E and append it to the end of your timeline.
00:01.120: I'm sounding like I'm hipping one of the kids because I know about Lindsay Sterling.
00:01.120: But we will I will just love if we can get people to come, it would just be a great way to create a community here in the
00:01.120: If we could get something that was so not a sentiment, but some sort of connection that would be able to pull
00:01.120: Yeah.
00:01.120: Well, thanks a lot.
00:01.120: I got a whole bunch of news that I'm literally like on the brink of telling you about.
00:01.200: I ended up serving an LDS mission for two years.
00:01.200: So they're like the twenty I think they're the twenty elevens or tw uh IMAX, the big the big square ones.
00:01.200: So so this is an interesting question about Final Cut then.
00:01.200: or topics, depending on what it is.
00:01.200: 'Cause that's the biggest thing right now is I feel like we run on so we have about seven, you know, seven units of IMAX of where we have it connected to a Drobo.
00:01.200: You just drag that library out of the job folder, put it on your desktop and go to town on it.
00:01.200: Okay.
00:01.200: But it works.
00:01.280: every two seconds.
00:01.280: Totally leave a comment and be as verbose as possible about exactly what you were doing prior to the crash, because those things are actually more important than
00:01.280: Is he from Utah?
00:01.360: Yeah, lean I think lean is a better term.
00:01.360: At least I cut it.
00:01.360: I got old school there for, I mean, different industry.
00:01.360: Is it on YouTube?
00:01.360: The guys who do the Ripple training.
00:01.440: We're we're s we're one of the older or the we're the newest um like conglomerate.
00:01.440: A lot of them do H.
00:01.440: Are you shooting with a T3i, did you say?
00:01.440: Yeah, I'm going to chime in on your color puck thing.
00:01.440: I think I even talked about that last winter because we, a group that I work with, was going to do it, and we never got around to it.
00:01.520: So they're silver, but they're thick.
00:01.520: I think 28 really well, no.
00:01.520: So it's just a way of time and date stamping when that library was removed from the job folder.
00:01.520: Yeah.
00:01.520: Yeah, it's way too sensitive.
00:01.600: It's really important as a user of software to document the things that are problematic and do that and create that documentation
00:01.600: So we don't actually import stuff into the library.
00:01.600: Right.
00:01.600: But see, it's also important to say you don't have to do command shift I/O to have multiple favorites in a thing.
00:01.600: Oh, look at you with your special words.
00:01.680: You had your buddy Josh, who was the music audio background guy.
00:01.680: It took me a little, because I mean, I came, I the only thing I had ever known was Premiere.
00:01.680: Right.
00:01.680: And so like we have one suite that's better suited for that.
00:01.680: And then we have two shows that are done by two senior producers that it's their own little show that they do off the offhand.
00:01.680: There's got to be a faster way and final cut.
00:01.680: So how was that process learning that?
00:01.680: like templates quicker from motion.
00:01.760: So if you were using it in last fall, you were dealing in a pre-library world.
00:01.760: So but I I heard a talk from Devin Supertramp or Devin Graham, who's a YouTube.
00:01.760: But I was like, okay.
00:01.760: No, no, that's not online.
00:01.760: So now I have on another machine in another room, I have a library that's labeled my cool job.
00:01.760: Does the TriCaster have the ability to read and write ProRes files?
00:01.760: It will pull both of the clips or as many as you have.
00:01.760: Yeah.
00:01.760: Thanks for doing this.
00:01.760: I'll let you go, and we'll do this again sometime.
00:01.840: He goes, no, no, nothing.
00:01.840: They were like long interviews and things like that.
00:01.840: We do it all the time.
00:01.840: And so but for all those who are like struggling to like really sit down, I would say, you know, sit down as if you're a college kid trying to
00:01.840: But we haven't finalized the deal.
00:01.840: And you'd like to have something some something like that.
00:01.920: Hey, Danny.
00:01.920: And it's it's just really it's great.
00:01.920: And I was like, ever since then I've been kind of not tentative, but just been like, okay, well
00:01.920: And so I ended up stumbling upon them and looking through them and I was like, well, let's look at some of the the shortcuts on on um
00:02.000: It's a huge help.
00:02.000: Please go to iTunes.
00:02.080: Like I came in right before all those updates came.
00:02.080: And it wasn't a house thing.
00:02.080: Yeah, I wanted this to be my term that gets out there.
00:02.080: So I went in, did a set get a little bit of uh footage.
00:02.160: I don't know.
00:02.160: And so being able to like help and show people how quick and how easy Final Cut can can help their workflow.
00:02.240: So when I got back from my mission, I ended up taking a class which is called Essentials to Digital Media, where I ended up falling in love with Final Cut.
00:02.240: I think.
00:02.240: So I could be watching the clip and then holding down Command Shift.
00:02.240: So Tad's desire is to change his life to being geoagnostic, where he doesn't have to live a commute distance away from quote unquote the office.
00:02.240: And I occasionally like I try to sometimes I even go into like the presets of the coloring.
00:02.320: You talk about it like it was so.
00:02.320: No, right.
00:02.320: I sent it out in as a pro res for 2-2.
00:02.320: But if I hold down the option key, I go into full-on molasses mode.
00:02.320: I've never used them.
00:02.400: You contacted me through Twitter and you said, hey, let's talk about what I'm working on here.
00:02.400: So that was convenient.
00:02.400: Like, literally, most people would not do that.
00:02.400: He is well, no, no, no.
00:02.400: Cool.
00:02.400: Okay, so crop, left, right, you know, top, bottom in the crop command in the video inspector.
00:02.480: And then learning that opening up new libraries and being able to manage the different events.
00:02.480: And you know, in the interview with Wes, you're going to hear us going through certain things where he's like, well, it didn't work the way I wanted it to work.
00:02.480: Right.
00:02.480: Or not voiceover or like fully, whatever.
00:02.480: It's absolutely on YouTube.
00:02.480: Likely scenario.
00:02.560: Should I do that?
00:02.560: How's that?
00:02.560: Yeah, I even uninstalled it and reinstalled it just to to see if that would if that was what it is.
00:02.560: Or being able to like zoom in and specifically tone in on the coloring.
00:02.640: So they finally called her name, and we were in the third block because there was about 40 people or 40 teams, I think.
00:02.640: How many people were on your team?
00:02.640: But uh, but it seriously, like in the old days, like in the 80 late 80s and early 90s, well, well, nineties more accurate, not not eighties, but in the nineties.
00:02.640: That's the thing.
00:02.640: I'm kind of lost.
00:02.720: Uh, just getting settled down here.
00:02.720: I think it's grade five, I believe.
00:02.720: You know, so that's a great interview.
00:02.720: Yeah, so those cameras, none of those cameras are really g uh warranted to export as four two two HQ.
00:02.720: I appreciate you making yourself available, but I should let you go to your new wife and get your work done.
00:02.800: Uh, whatever.
00:02.800: Like, I had no idea that I existed.
00:02.800: Its name is good.
00:02.800: Right.
00:02.800: And then if anyone needs to cut on it, they just take the the hard drive and plug into whatever unit they're they're gonna cut on.
00:02.800: We do it all the time.
00:02.800: Lindsay Sterling, she kind of
00:02.800: So let me ask you as we draw toward the end of our hour here, if you could sneak in, Danny, to the offices at Apple and get and corner the programmers and get them to
00:02.880: And that's kind of what I do with the different projects.
00:02.880: A lot of times we'll have producers and clients in the room, shoulder surfing and
00:02.880: And I think that's where I I see that a lot.
00:02.880: But the beauty of doing the command shift IO is that it shows on the clip.
00:02.880: That is not something I don't think.
00:02.880: He's my instructor.
00:02.960: I want to say thank you to the people at Premium Beat.
00:02.960: So the website is more than just a place to buy music.
00:02.960: And so I bought it.
00:02.960: Now I could do some modifying to it, but all I got to do is really save it with a new file name, and it's already there in my bin.
00:03.040: And sometimes I have to like go in and like cancel the rendering just so I can get.
00:03.040: And I haven't tried that font again.
00:03.040: It's kind of like Zoolander.
00:03.040: They cut it up, export it out, and then they take it over, we take it to TriCaster, plug it in, runs like a beauty, and we get it out, and we're good to go.
00:03.040: And, you know, Devin Supertramp is a good example of being geo-agnostic.
00:03.040: That helps the podcast be found by more people.
00:03.120: Can we talk?
00:03.120: Like, you haven't added anything.
00:03.120: And then we go underscore time, and it's now 9:30 at night, so that's 21.
00:03.120: And I think that we give up a lot of capabilities, you know.
00:03.200: You know, a lot of production music tries to be more than it needs to be
00:03.200: There we go.
00:03.200: And what year was this?
00:03.200: I think six or seven edit stations, and there's a couple of them that are that are a little um
00:03.200: Well, it's because we were since we were at a school function, we had like half the crew.
00:03.200: And the biggest thing that really cooked me to Faranka is I did an internship during the summer and I was cutting
00:03.200: Yeah, so she like ma she blogs about motherhood and like how sh they can like better effectively manage their time and stuff.
00:03.200: So I was researching a couple of shortcuts and I found that one.
00:03.200: Like we do a lot of MOSs for just to be able to get
00:03.280: Should I start throwing out names of p pieces that I've been using?
00:03.280: He's great.
00:03.280: Somebody else recently said that.
00:03.280: Right.
00:03.280: And I was like, oh, I don't have editing software.
00:03.360: I think it was that one.
00:03.360: I think, and I think it what I had, it was just I just had it set up that way, and I was like, eh, I'll just keep it.
00:03.360: And if I then shift click if I click on one of those ghosted highlights, it will turn yellow.
00:03.360: It'll probably be early afternoon, maybe twelve, one o'clock.
00:03.360: Please leave a comment and leave the little stars.
00:03.440: I can spare it.
00:03.440: So yeah, I've always wanted to do one of those 48-hour film festivals.
00:03.440: And then if I'm cutting something for a show, for my studio.
00:03.440: Like it could be you could have just I have seen things in my years, I have seen things where literally
00:03.440: 264.
00:03.520: So we wrote it's called Nerds in Love.
00:03.520: Okay.
00:03.520: He's from, I think, Oregon, but he came to school here, Provo.
00:03.520: Not even once.
00:03.600: And all of them, all the 48 hours, have, yeah, like you said, they have a character name, a quote that you have to have in the film, a certain prop you need in the film.
00:03.600: But the l the line was, Why do you ask?
00:03.600: Interesting.
00:03.600: So I always encourage people to participate in that part of the ecosystem.
00:03.600: No, I'm going to download that on another computer.
00:03.600: It is reaching across the network as long as that hard drive is still mounted.
00:03.680: And so we cut we took the first segment and we brought it back and we had some editors started cutting
00:03.680: So he came to our university, and he's saying, If you're not doing what you want to do now, you're never going to do it.
00:03.680: And he goes, Oh, that was a game I downloaded last night.
00:03.680: You know, and literally, and I think I mentioned this a few episodes ago.
00:03.680: But you are.
00:03.760: So go check them out at premiumbeat.
00:03.760: Yeah, I think back in the days of if I recall, I think it was like 10-1-2.
00:03.760: So I got f I did the trial and it was like the last day and I was about to do a small little project with my friend.
00:03.760: And the only hiccup that I've ever had that I've had with hiccu uh was with um for whatever reason my background rendering like freaks out a couple of times and it starts rendering like
00:03.760: It's a little confusing because there's kind of two of them.
00:03.760: Let me ask you a question.
00:03.760: So we didn't have to like do something in motion and then send it, like export it out and just bring it to Fenuka, but a quicker way of doing that connection.
00:03.760: I would pay real green money to be able to do that.
00:03.840: And so recently I started the North You Northern Utah Fanuka group and I want to do next week we're hoping to do actual meetup
00:03.840: Who said that?
00:03.840: Like, dude, it does all the stuff I want to do.
00:03.840: I think it may just looking at a film, because a film is different than what a broadcast would broadcast.
00:03.840: So I want to give the Northern Utah Fanuka Group as a just to say, okay, this is where we're kind of based from.
00:03.840: There you go.
00:03.840: You know, I have learned to enjoy the the color board as opposed to color wheels.
00:03.840: If you ever want another guy to talk to.
00:03.920: And then I notice something I go, what's this thing?
00:03.920: Okay.
00:03.920: Is it on his channel?
00:03.920: It se now again, I could be wrong, but it seems kind of quick to me.
00:04.000: What I didn't realize when I started the conversation is just how new Danny was to the whole world of video editing.
00:04.000: Hey, welcome to another episode of Final Cut Grill.
00:04.000: And then I when the update came, I felt that it was much smoother.
00:04.000: Yeah.
00:04.000: That person in that suite was accessing another job which was in a third suite.
00:04.000: I'm good enough to be able to totally screw something up.
00:04.000: So go check that out.
00:04.080: Now, that being said, when we import our media from
00:04.080: Now, this can get really dicey because once you drag that
00:04.080: And I think that it's kind of a good lesson to learn.
00:04.080: So I shoot with a T3i, and then we have a in the studio we have a couple seven sixties, I think.
00:04.080: If I shift-click on the second one, it will also be highlighted.
00:04.160: I got I did I was a producer over that one, so and a little bit of the back behind the scenes.
00:04.160: And then we have a smaller suite that's if it's just like one producer in the room.
00:04.160: Right.
00:04.160: Take the library from the job folder, drag it to your desktop.
00:04.160: So we were totally doing this round robin thing, and we're doing it over gigabit Ethernet with a gigabit switch.
00:04.160: And it was an application that you use to move stuff from like
00:04.160: And then the other guy who's kind of final cut, who and this could be just a motivational issue, but I was like, is it
00:04.160: You might want to try that.
00:04.160: So we're going to actually try to live stream it from the studio where I work from the school.
00:04.240: And uh it it was great.
00:04.240: So for the 40-hour film festival, I don't recall entirely.
00:04.240: Did you have any problems?
00:04.240: I can't remember who did the Expendables 3, right?
00:04.240: Wouldn't start small, but I hope to reach, you know, see who
00:04.240: I'm in my timeline.
00:04.240: I go, yeah, it's kind of like
00:04.240: That was the thing of the word.
00:04.240: Night 20.
00:04.240: All right.
00:04.240: The guy's quite the accomplished musician.
00:04.320: The files are in the computer.
00:04.320: I can make I can do what I can do.
00:04.320: Yeah.
00:04.320: It doesn't matter.
00:04.320: And so I'm doing it m my my goal my end goal is to hopefully own a production company
00:04.400: So you first used Final Cut 10 when I used it
00:04.400: And I w so I would go in and have to go shoot uh interview, talk, ask people questions and then bring it back and cut.
00:04.400: That just came out that was last the last podcast.
00:04.400: Yeah, Michael, I'm going to give you the credit for the Lean Library.
00:04.480: And while I was on the mission, they were releasing a ton of these, like Meet the Mormons.
00:04.480: So I was doing the trial and it was like getting towards the end of the trial and I was like
00:04.480: They're not the thin ones.
00:04.480: And they go through all of the complaints that come through from the website.
00:04.480: And that could be really, really bad.
00:04.480: He produced a utility that was a very big deal.
00:04.480: Yep.
00:04.480: Somebody new to this whole thing?
00:04.480: Right, you rock and it's all that.
00:04.480: Because the slider's moving left or right, but I've clicked once on the number and then
00:04.560: And they're always tweeting about various tutorials and stuff that are happening
00:04.560: I was just straight Windows, straight Premiere
00:04.560: So we'll we're growing.
00:04.560: And I have like my own little YouTube channel that I kind of do vlogs and talk about random stuff.
00:04.560: Right.
00:04.560: And so and I probably would have had one sooner, but I was getting ready for m to get married, so that was crazy.
00:04.560: Right.
00:04.640: Uh yeah, time flies when you're watching stuff.
00:04.640: Right.
00:04.640: He goes, Yeah, I don't know, man.
00:04.640: We could have called it Scratch Disk.
00:04.640: So MOS is actually an old film term.
00:04.640: You know, and it's like sometimes they're just good starting points just to be like.
00:04.720: I'll open up like a I'll do a month basis of like if I do vlogs for a week or something, I kind of cut them in a week basis.
00:04.720: And Apple really does read the trouble reports.
00:04.720: All right.
00:04.800: It's going very well.
00:04.800: I I think I've been calling it the trim library.
00:04.800: We have one suite where it's like, this is this there were a couple of suites actually where people just work solo.
00:04.800: Is it taking more time to cut in the premiere rather than the final cut?
00:04.800: It's on his channel.
00:04.800: Hmm.
00:04.880: So, and I've never looked back.
00:04.880: I think when it comes to troubleshooting, and this is a good lesson to learn about all software, and I may have talked about this before in previous episodes, but
00:04.880: No, you didn't down.
00:04.880: But so yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all.
00:04.880: I do have to throw in a logo in motion to edit that out, but so
00:04.880: You do it.
00:04.960: And each one has a Promise Pegasus R six hard drive on it.
00:04.960: Make sure you guys check that one out on Monday.
00:04.960: Right.
00:04.960: Right.
00:04.960: Which is kind of and I'm not, and I'm not a colorist.
00:04.960: Thanks, Chris.
00:04.960: The link to that will be in the show notes.
00:05.040: So when we went in, we were we were we have a guy in my studio who's he's fantastic.
00:05.040: And then we exported the final sequence and the second sequence and put it in with the first sequence.
00:05.040: So anyway, so what we'll do, and this you gotta remember.
00:05.040: And so I ended up searching I was actually I think listening to one year's podcast
00:05.040: Um and maybe I'll do a a video and I'll put it on my own blog.
00:05.040: And so, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on.
00:05.120: I mean, it's 10 o'clock.
00:05.120: And we shot we shot the whole the opening sequence of um a girl walking in and kind of start struck these three little nerd guys
00:05.120: Right.
00:05.120: Nope.
00:05.120: So when you're skimming through a bin, a clip in a bin
00:05.120: This is a curious question.
00:05.200: But you have people that's like, well, yeah, as soon as I get the right camera and the right ND filter and the right polarizer and the right tripod and the right slider and the right crane.
00:05.200: Exactly.
00:05.200: Yeah.
00:05.280: This was last year.
00:05.280: So that's a lot of change.
00:05.280: And so I was in this weird transitional phase of like
00:05.280: You know, I mean, literally, in the computer industry, everything has the potential of affecting everything.
00:05.280: Now the stuff that you're doing at your station, are you actually doing stuff for broadcast?
00:05.280: It just messes it up just terribly.
00:05.360: It was a lot of fun and uh the producer found it, brought it, brought it to the table.
00:05.360: You were totally prepped to do musical, and you actually, out of the hat, you drew musical or western.
00:05.360: So if I had a 20-minute clip, or like a you know, 10-minute clip of a person talking, I could have
00:05.360: Which is really powerful.
00:05.360: Right.
00:05.360: That's just being able to like plop out a section that you want.
00:05.440: Did you have any problem?
00:05.440: And so and it we just pump those out, we just render them out of final cut, and then we take that file over on like a hard drive or
00:05.440: O.
00:05.440: It's just it's stuff.
00:05.440: They just came out with a color cor uh color correcting course or something.
00:05.440: And then how do people what what do you are you on the Twitter or how do people find you on the Twitter?
00:05.520: There's plenty of content there.
00:05.520: So on the way up there, I'm like, well, you know, hopefully, crossing my fingers, I'm gonna, you know
00:05.520: And so we everybody was still in the studio, still it cutting in these the older version before they came out with libraries.
00:05.520: Um so we have one show that's like a five-day-a-week news show that's kind of like a
00:05.520: So, what you're doing by doing Command Shift IO.
00:05.520: Geoagnostic.
00:05.520: I think they're inspirational.
00:05.520: Drew Tylo at uh T Y L E R.
00:05.600: That's what I'm happy about.
00:05.600: But we didn't cut, we didn't we didn't do the 40 out film festival until the summer.
00:05.600: In fact, so in I was actually trying to make a
00:05.600: And so maybe I will go in and try to see if it works now.
00:05.600: It means something to me.
00:05.600: And it's Thunderbolt to the local machine.
00:05.600: Yeah.
00:05.600: All right, man.
00:05.680: How about you?
00:05.680: Right.
00:05.680: I'll just use my iPhone, right?
00:05.680: Okay.
00:05.680: I'm gonna cut that up.
00:05.680: So it's tons of functionality and whatnot.
00:05.680: Or the wheel the color wheels.
00:05.760: Did you find that
00:05.760: And so in the olden days, pre-ten one two
00:05.760: I don't have this or that.
00:05.760: You know, this Monday, coming Monday, I have a great interview with Wes Plate, and Wes is an old-timey guy like me.
00:05.760: Because then you'll not have you won't have that huge issue.
00:05.760: Is that the high-quality one?
00:05.760: I'm thinking, oh, gee, I want to do a cool lower third here.
00:05.760: Yeah.
00:05.840: com.
00:05.840: You know, it's actually in the library.
00:05.840: So, what you're pointing out here is a really good feature that
00:05.920: Okay.
00:05.920: I mean, it's a really important thing.
00:05.920: So we just had to reboot the TriCaster.
00:05.920: So it like it's blocking all of it down.
00:05.920: And I don't want to rain on your parade here.
00:06.000: And so they would run the we have like a TriCaster, and so we've done a lot of that.
00:06.000: And I, and I was like, oh, I love Premiere.
00:06.000: I go, When I say when you say nothing, that includes video games.
00:06.000: Yeah, so I got my advisor.
00:06.000: And I don't remember if it was if I found it strictly on the Apple blog for the shortcuts or if it was
00:06.000: So interesting.
00:06.000: I'll have to check it out.
00:06.080: They also have an amazing blog with tons of content.
00:06.080: I was like, oh, maybe I'll be able to cram this one quiz before I get in.
00:06.080: 1.
00:06.080: I'll put it on a floppy disk.
00:06.080: I'm like, you know, if you throw this and you, you know, do Command G, you can throw that into like a sec secondary storyline.
00:06.080: Who knows?
00:06.080: I you know, something like that would be better.
00:06.080: Take care.
00:06.160: So in the last year, we have gone from 10.
00:06.160: It just started crashing today.
00:06.160: No, no, no, nothing.
00:06.160: We could have called it Pink Elephants.
00:06.160: Nope.
00:06.160: And I'm like, oh, done.
00:06.240: And so they're super the RAMs are pretty slow.
00:06.240: Ten one two totally changed the um
00:06.240: They would not put their AOL floppy disk in their edit system.
00:06.240: Because most of the time, an HQ file is kind of.
00:06.240: Right.
00:06.320: I try to get everyone I can.
00:06.320: Then Saturday morning they came in.
00:06.320: That always helps people find the show.
00:06.400: So, right?
00:06.400: Work fine here.
00:06.400: And I was really excited to see Motion get updated as well.
00:06.400: So people, you know, they do a package of an MOS or they do a small little interview package.
00:06.400: If it's been if we if we had if we've had any glitches, it's been on the TriCaster end.
00:06.400: It's all the videos, all the podcasts you get, you know, pointed to.
00:06.400: Someone should make a plug-in for that.
00:06.400: So,
00:06.400: And I had a great meeting about that.
00:06.400: That's it.
00:06.480: I thought it was about
00:06.480: This is 088 with Danny Rubio.
00:06.480: Oh, okay.
00:06.480: We have a radio station in that the a newspaper that's been there for since like the college has started basically.
00:06.480: So dabbling in Final Cut and trying to get Apple to make something, I think
00:06.560: Oh, it's going, you know, I'm just trying to finish up some uh, you know, quizzes and stuff for college.
00:06.560: I'll send you the link.
00:06.560: I got to say, I'm touched.
00:06.560: Right.
00:06.560: Gotcha.
00:06.560: I think he's I think the guys live in the dream.
00:06.560: So a friend of mine coined a term tonight and I tweeted it.
00:06.640: Yeah, so I'm currently the executive producer over the s the T V station at Weber State University, which is my the local college I go to.
00:06.640: And then we had to have a mug
00:06.640: 2 came out, I believe.
00:06.640: Is that what you're doing?
00:06.720: You're going to hear this quote in this.
00:06.720: Right.
00:06.800: I was watching something on a website for that's coming up for uh the Monday episode of The Grill here.
00:06.800: And so I got the job to be executive producer this year.
00:06.800: But yeah, no, it it it makes sense.
00:06.800: All right.
00:06.800: It's really basic.
00:06.800: So I was sitting at a desk and I was like, okay, so I'm listening to these like
00:06.800: Because the yellow highlight turns white if I deselect.
00:06.800: So like if you were to pick up an old film reel and it says, you know, reel seventeen A MOS
00:06.800: Okay, yeah, man on the street actually makes perfect sense too.
00:06.800: I don't know exactly what time we're going to do it because we don't have any school that day.
00:06.800: Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
00:06.800: Huge fan, still trying to hook up with him and get him on the show.
00:06.800: Some things that are coming up quite possibly this fall.
00:06.880: It's not the complaint you normally get about Final Cut 10.
00:06.880: And so I was trying we I was I downloaded an 8-bit font.
00:06.880: Right.
00:06.880: Okay, so this is a new term by Tad Wagner.
00:06.880: So I'm going to right-click on that and say open in motion.
00:06.880: Like when I click on the control key,
00:06.880: If you have not seen it yet, I'll put this up a link to this.
00:06.880: We'll be back Monday with another episode of the Grill.
00:06.960: So this is like really current.
00:06.960: That's kind of a new thing.
00:06.960: No, two podcasts ago.
00:06.960: Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
00:06.960: Do something to that effect of in 'cause I love editing.
00:06.960: Right.
00:06.960: I have seen, I mean, he came in, he said, like, he has worked, he's got.
00:06.960: Although I think it should be the control key, I will tell you, I was doing a project just yesterday.
00:07.040: Anyway, it was a fun.
00:07.040: Right, right.
00:07.040: And the way it does there's like a there's a whole bunch of different genres and so it's a you pull it out of the hat type thing.
00:07.040: Well, it was probably about 22 people because we had
00:07.040: I know Devin Supertramp.
00:07.040: But after that, I felt like I was like, oh man, this is much it's just much easier.
00:07.040: And are you on 10.
00:07.040: A bad font?
00:07.040: 30.
00:07.040: Yeah, when I hold down the option key and I'm dragging the slider, it just stops.
00:07.120: That's better.
00:07.120: I'm going to make those fixes.
00:07.120: And we do six characters for the date.
00:07.120: Yep.
00:07.120: I mean, I just have like I have a basic T3i, I just have final cut.
00:07.120: Because although he does have to be at the locations that he shoots, it doesn't matter where he actually lives, unless, of course.
00:07.120: And now I can make very fine adjustments by moving my mouse large distances.
00:07.200: We had a day when 10.
00:07.200: And it is interesting that you're doing this premiere class and you're like, ugh, you know?
00:07.200: Do a couple tweaks and then edit it out.
00:07.200: So
00:07.280: So great.
00:07.280: It's I do, and I kinda, I kind of, I see that I got caught in that for a little bit when I before
00:07.280: But it's, it comes down to, you know, well, what do I have and what can I do?
00:07.280: And so who I don't who there was a guy who a while back he said he was doing a like he wanted to try Final Cut again
00:07.280: So you could just go into your favorite fold and say, These are all the specific clips.
00:07.280: I mean, once I've c if I let's say I launch Final Club, actually, here's a more a more
00:07.360: It is reaching across the network
00:07.360: Fine for me, too.
00:07.360: And then when I wanted to have it, the marker come in and I would just click I.
00:07.360: And I was like, this would probably work help him out a lot.
00:07.360: Right.
00:07.360: I haven't done dabbled much in coloring.
00:07.360: I'm sure you can find it if you just search for Michael Sioni Music Production Final Cut 10 or something like that.
00:07.440: Right.
00:07.440: I loved it.
00:07.440: I think it could just be the hardware.
00:07.440: I'm just asking an honest question.
00:07.520: I said, Well, what have you done different?
00:07.520: I didn't do anything.
00:07.520: I don't even know what podcast has or what's which one I started on, but
00:07.520: And I have a standard folder structure that I do that.
00:07.520: Because for one thing,
00:07.520: But so, but you, you know, you're so new to this.
00:07.520: And like some of these lunch ladies would just start talking and talking
00:07.520: Really?
00:07.520: Because sometimes those pucks just get confusing.
00:07.520: Yeah.
00:07.520: So there you go.
00:07.600: So how many um how many editors or edit stations do you have?
00:07.600: I'm touched.
00:07.600: Or do we just throw it on like a portal, like a small hard drive?
00:07.600: Yeah, so I just want to point out something because
00:07.600: Because it's especially when you're
00:07.600: That would be cool, too.
00:07.680: Like, well, you know, I haven't I think I've told this story.
00:07.680: And so he came and did an interview.
00:07.760: So we're going to go now to Danny Rubio.
00:07.760: So, let's go to Danny Rubio.
00:07.760: I think it was about, it was probably about.
00:07.760: And then 10.
00:07.760: Yeah.
00:07.760: Okay.
00:07.760: And then I go in and kind of do the small tweaking.
00:07.760: Hey, well, thanks.
00:07.840: So
00:07.840: 1.
00:07.840: And then we have
00:07.840: I like
00:07.840: Old guy here, old guy alert.
00:07.840: No, but it's uh yeah, and I think I don't know, maybe it's because the the
00:07.920: Yeah, and so me and Josh had up so I had a I have a old I have a MacBook
00:07.920: It's worth listening to at least this episode, yeah?
00:07.920: It was with not it was before branch.
00:07.920: It doesn't matter.
00:07.920: You're a great case study, Danny, because you are new to this.
00:07.920: And it was
00:07.920: So I think ye uh yeah, I believe currently I think either for the most part I
00:07.920: And now by hitting again E W Q, Q, W, or E, whatever.
00:07.920: But I want the same sort of molasses mode
00:07.920: That'd be sweet.
00:08.000: That that that actually sounds
00:08.000: He's like, hey, one of my friends, she needs someone to
00:08.000: But like Scott and Brendo, like a music group.
00:08.000: And if you grab the number
00:08.000: I think it's like, oh, wow, that's kind of bold.
00:08.080: But we were talking, we were like, We really want musical because we all thought it would be super crazy.
00:08.080: 3 yet?
00:08.080: We use the leave in place
00:08.080: And you might say, well, that doesn't work, Chris, because gigabit Ethernet is not that robust.
00:08.080: And I'll tell you, this actually applies to creativity, too.
00:08.080: And so we have a variety of different venues of different ways people are using Final Cut.
00:08.160: But we wrote a full three song musical in it was a it was about it had to be less about seven minutes.
00:08.160: Yeah, he's awesome.
00:08.160: Oh, okay.
00:08.160: The very next thing you do is you go to the job folder and you take
00:08.160: You're going to love Final Cut Pro Bec ten because
00:08.160: I have that in a specific library so that when if there's like a reoccurring logo
00:08.160: You know, one thing I forgot to mention to Danny during this interview that I thought was really cool because he had mentioned that
00:08.240: And I was watching them, and I was like, man, I really want to do videos.
00:08.240: We had a crew that shot everything.
00:08.240: The second done song second song was about halfway done, and so we came in Sunday morning.
00:08.240: And that's hard for a lot of people, of course.
00:08.320: Yeah, about 11:30 that Saturday night.
00:08.320: And then.
00:08.320: That I think that a lot of times we get kind of hung up on
00:08.320: And I'm not sure if it's because he was being nitpicking the details, which sometimes I I was like, okay, well
00:08.320: And so we want we're going to try to do it next Friday.
00:08.320: And maybe maybe I'm just thinking
00:08.320: That's that.
00:08.400: So they found a couple of locations.
00:08.400: I just love that in general.
00:08.400: So I could cook out.
00:08.480: That tells you, well, it's probably not strictly the code.
00:08.480: It just started crashing.
00:08.480: But you know, you might
00:08.480: But um it's just it was I found it it was really it simple.
00:08.480: So I'm going to be
00:08.560: You've never used the old Final Cut.
00:08.560: I thought that it was
00:08.560: I'll tell you, Danny, back in the old days when I was young, when I was
00:08.560: 1.
00:08.640: And so
00:08.640: And you know how sometimes when it crashes and it says, Do you want to leave a comment?
00:08.640: Right.
00:08.640: Okay.
00:08.720: I'm always finding things in my Twitter feed from them.
00:08.720: And give me some of the details of that.
00:08.720: 2 first came out, we kind of pushed it on purpose.
00:08.720: I I'm not I'm not complaining about that.
00:08.800: Now you got two different people doing exactly the same thing.
00:08.800: One of them cuts in Premiere and one of them cuts in Final Cut.
00:08.800: So that, you know, but there has to be a community to start from.
00:08.880: We just cut this piece today with
00:08.880: He goes, Nothing.
00:08.880: So depending on the human needs, that's how we decide where to start a project.
00:08.880: Yep.
00:08.880: 'Cause I I agree.
00:08.960: And so we run a final cut house.
00:08.960: 1.
00:08.960: I love that guy.
00:08.960: I am.
00:08.960: And when you make a complaint about something, I mean
00:08.960: Now we never really
00:08.960: Because most of the time I'm just publishing right straight to YouTube.
00:08.960: It's been an honor.
00:09.040: It was a pretty big thing.
00:09.040: Because you excuse me, multiple to
00:09.040: Oh, she got this video.
00:09.040: I don't know that that's
00:09.120: But that's where the cache file goes.
00:09.120: So you know some people do you know the lean, what you do.
00:09.120: And very cool, because I had totally forgotten.
00:09.120: So I'm going to go to the little, you know
00:09.120: Danny Rubio in Utah.
00:09.200: It's sort of, you know, a big deal in the last few years.
00:09.200: And I just, I'm like, this is so slow.
00:09.280: And so we did
00:09.280: And frankly, that's my favorite way to share stuff across a network.
00:09.280: I did that same thing with logos.
00:09.280: But you're going to see a lot more
00:09.360: Right.
00:09.360: 0, 9 to 10.
00:09.360: So today is 141008.
00:09.360: Like I can now look back at my clip and go, oh, there are two points of interest that I have
00:09.360: Yep, and his his twitter handle is um
00:09.440: 3 is again sort of
00:09.440: I
00:09.440: Or is it just being tasked with other details of life?
00:09.440: So he's done a lot of shoots.
00:09.440: He works hard.
00:09.520: Another Twitter find.
00:09.520: And we were cutting down to the deadline.
00:09.520: I just love the the fact you use the term lean library.
00:09.520: I would love to be on some other time.
00:09.600: Well, I think it wasn't Final Cut.
00:09.600: And I'm like
00:09.600: Yeah.
00:09.600: Have a great weekend.
00:09.680: Know what's wrong with it, can you take a look at it?
00:09.680: So sorry.
00:09.680: Geoagnostic is the ability to live anywhere independent of your vocation.
00:09.680: So I'm on the Twitter at
00:09.760: A comic book shop said they would open up early for us.
00:09.760: Yep.
00:09.840: But in the past couple of years, we've
00:09.840: No, so here's what I do.
00:09.840: Now
00:09.840: You won't be able to see any difference.
00:09.840: Then I'm like, I should probably look into that 'cause
00:09.840: We all got too busy.
00:09.920: No, I'm fine.
00:09.920: Understood.
00:09.920: And so that's that's one of the biggest things we're trying to do.
00:09.920: And so I'm going to be exporting that and I'll export it as a 4.
00:10.000: You know, I mean, they just wouldn't do it because.
00:10.000: I think I've tweeted it.
00:10.080: What does MOS mean to you?
00:10.080: I think what I love about online content, especially now with
00:10.080: I agree.
00:10.160: And I really want to get the
00:10.240: So I went up.
00:10.240: A friend of mine once several years ago.
00:10.240: And what we do then
00:10.240: Because we're kind of.
00:10.320: Yeah, of course you have backups, of course, yeah.
00:10.320: But for the most part I get all the big block down.
00:10.480: He he's really good at Infantica.
00:10.480: But if anyone wanted to join in and
00:10.560: You're only talking about Final Cut 10.
00:10.560: Understood.
00:10.560: Right, right.
00:10.560: I have the library.
00:10.560: 'Cause if he had a lot of footage and he was trying to find specific segments
00:10.560: But the biggest thing I think, like,
00:10.640: Danny actually contacted me a couple days ago.
00:10.640: It really does make a difference.
00:10.640: Have you seen the little piece that he did that explains h how hard he works?
00:10.720: Hello, hello.
00:10.720: We're good.
00:10.720: So when I come back to that clip,
00:10.720: Later, later.
00:10.800: Oh, yeah.
00:10.800: It's not appropriate.
00:10.800: I think that's probably my favorite part of that this whole career.
00:10.800: Yeah.
00:10.800: On Vimeo, just this week he produced he posted it.
00:10.880: Because I wanted to make it a hobby.
00:10.880: Yeah, it was like three months ago.
00:10.880: And I go, Yeah, but what about this, this, and this?
00:10.880: They've been having a couple of kinks.
00:10.880: We're kind of getting into basic stuff here.
00:10.880: I've always wanted to do one of those.
00:10.960: Okay, so, uh, d d can we can we do this now or do you need to wait till ten?
00:10.960: That's stupid.
00:11.040: You should follow them on
00:11.120: So
00:11.120: All right.
00:11.200: No, he and uh
00:11.200: I'll put it a link in the show notes here.
00:11.280: We can go.
00:11.280: We had
00:11.280: It was oh, it was stressful.
00:11.280: And I was cutting um
00:11.280: I mean, you've.
00:11.280: You should check out Drew Tyler.
00:11.360: It was actually the iMac.
00:11.360: And a lot of people say that about Final Cut 10.
00:11.360: Or is it
00:11.440: 1, which introduced libraries.
00:11.440: Yeah.
00:11.440: Right.
00:11.440: How could that be quicker?
00:11.440: Yeah, we're so busy, we don't have 48 hours to spare.
00:11.520: I felt like I could do
00:11.520: I wouldn't bother.
00:11.520: And
00:11.520: So maybe I'll do something like that.
00:11.600: So like some projects are going to be bigger
00:11.600: You're like, yeah, I totally get it.
00:11.600: Now that, okay.
00:11.680: And so we're wa one of the newer ones.
00:11.680: And I had been cutting in libraries and I'm like, what are you guys doing?
00:11.680: Gotcha.
00:11.760: So tell me, um tell me a little bit about uh
00:11.760: Oh, yeah.
00:11.840: And
00:12.080: Okay, yeah.
00:12.080: Right.
00:12.080: And I think that
00:12.160: Oh, yeah.
00:12.160: Okay.
00:12.160: Okay.
00:12.160: Right.
00:12.160: You know, he's.
00:12.160: All right.
00:12.240: His name is Josh Lovitri and he
00:12.240: It just was command shift ino.
00:12.320: He was like, Yeah, my Mac keeps crashing.
00:12.320: And it was just kind of like.
00:12.320: And
00:12.400: Leave a comment.
00:12.400: I'll try to tweet out the
00:12.560: Oh, very cool.
00:12.560: What was the
00:12.560: But so, um.
00:12.640: I literally.
00:12.720: We were pumped.
00:12.960: And
00:12.960: And literally, he was like,
00:13.040: That being said,
00:13.120: We have let's see.
00:13.200: Very cool.
00:13.200: And, and,
00:13.200: 22.
00:13.280: And so we're trying to
00:13.600: If you don't have any
00:13.760: Okay.