Episode 70
FCG070 - An Editor I Trust (feat. Chad Kukahiko)
FCPX can be used in a myriad of ways. Chad Kukahiko of We Make Movies tells us how he, as a director, uses FCPX in many different days in his day to day production environment. We talk a little bit about hard drives and posting in 4K and Chad tells us why “Its good to be Sam’s friend”.
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- Chris Fenwick
- Chad Kukahiko - @ckukahiko
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00:00.001: You can actually watch the little progress bar, let go of the mouse, and watch that thing.
00:00.001: And then I delete them when the project is cast.
00:00.001: It's called G Doc.
00:00.001: I don't know.
00:00.001: And website does not look as good.
00:00.160: I was talking with Sam, who's become quite a good friend, a few weeks ago, or a few days ago, and I said, Hey, do you have any people that might be interesting guests?
00:00.160: Yeah, do you have another question that you want to do?
00:00.160: You know, export setting.
00:00.160: a full resolution, full frame rate, you know, ProRes file.
00:00.160: The actress has moved.
00:00.160: Yeah, that was kind of fun.
00:00.160: Too bad it got uh it got lost on me.
00:00.160: start to play the movie in quick time.
00:00.160: The stuff we're doing now, we're doing like I've got three projects right now that I have directed that are sitting in post, and I'm trying to like kind of make creative decisions.
00:00.160: You know?
00:00.160: You're probably hinting to me at it.
00:00.160: Right, right, right.
00:00.160: I love that movie and I and I get that, and that's exactly the kind of stuff that I'm that I'm talking about.
00:00.160: the process.
00:00.160: So I had a 70, two C three hundreds, and an Epic.
00:00.160: I don't know if he'd call himself that, but anyway, director and uh cinematographer, and they both actually owned the A7S, and it was great because we got
00:00.160: to not do that.
00:00.160: You know, I don't think that's prop I'm I'm not a proprietary person at all.
00:00.160: Which I think is probably a fantastic word.
00:00.160: The writing, the directing.
00:00.160: And that I was having this discussion with somebody the other day and I was telling an old story.
00:00.160: But and the only reason that that hasn't been disrupted yet is somebody hasn't kind of swooped in.
00:00.160: But again, it did.
00:00.160: So it's it's pretty funny to see that point of view too, you know?
00:00.160: He called me up with you know, and again, for the editors out there, I know a handful of you are going to be nodding your head because I know you.
00:00.160: It's much more difficult in seven than it currently is in ten.
00:00.160: And so I had all the proxy files on my little rugged, and so I was editing wherever I could, you know.
00:00.160: And the first thing I did was just copy everything off.
00:00.160: Oh wow.
00:00.160: Or, excuse me, a drive that you could put into a drive dock.
00:00.160: Little Family Production Company at Super Frico, spelled exactly how you would think it to be spelled, superfrico.
00:00.240: Of We Make Movies.
00:00.240: has great music that works for editors.
00:00.240: So, anyway, go check that out for me because they've been very generous in supporting what we are doing here at the Grill.
00:00.240: So please go if nothing else, go take a look at PremiumBeat.
00:00.240: That's hilarious.
00:00.240: Yeah, we uh we oh, did I lose you there?
00:00.240: Absolutely.
00:00.240: Yeah, I saw that on your tagline, but based on the way you're dressed right now, I'm way less impressed after reading it.
00:00.240: comic book movies, basically.
00:00.240: Not porn.
00:00.240: Yeah.
00:00.240: Yeah, I would I would personally rather not be traveling right now at all, but they've been planning this for I think about a year.
00:00.240: Yeah, you know, whatever, F C P X was when we had to create we have to create PDFs to send to clients as presentations all the time.
00:00.240: Into the PDFs.
00:00.240: But they but they at least at the time they definitely did not.
00:00.240: This is like this is like, I think two years ago.
00:00.240: For things.
00:00.240: When you have those presets done right, yeah, it just saves you tons of time.
00:00.240: Have them exporting and then be working on other projects, and it didn't slow me down at all.
00:00.240: I don't know, like a few years ago, we got we got lucky enough to for Celtics gave us some money to do it.
00:00.240: Hit share and whatever preset you've created.
00:00.240: But a lot of people don't realize that once you export that first movie, you can either A go back to your time line and start working on something else
00:00.240: To just jump onto my YouTube unlisted, and then I start it, you know, and it's already started by the time I've started the very first one.
00:00.240: thirty, forty auditions are up online and I can rev review them whenever I want to.
00:00.240: It was a project called Short Attention Spin, which was it was like a mini Colbert, like a two, three minute Colbert report thing.
00:00.240: a lot of the projects that we do.
00:00.240: If you let go of the mouse, it'll do what it can in the background.
00:00.240: you know, if I'm exporting a bunch of movies for a PDF or whatever, I mean, there's other stuff they have me have me work on as well now that I now that I can edit.
00:00.240: I I advised her to save the couple of hundred bucks.
00:00.240: I think what Apple was trying to do was to bring this tool into the hands of more people.
00:00.240: Rock the boat or whatever.
00:00.240: And I'm like a psycho with my pre-production.
00:00.240: So when and you know, when when 10 came out, I didn't really know.
00:00.240: I was a little mad.
00:00.240: It's a difficult relationship to develop and foster and cultivate because there is a certain amount of trust.
00:00.240: Well, I mean, I I'm also thinking, you know, while you were talking there, I was thinking about how quite often you have things in a conversation or i in a cut where there's those lit
00:00.240: originality per se.
00:00.240: Christopher Nolan fan.
00:00.240: And, you know, we're like, oh, yeah, I didn't.
00:00.240: If I ever get the opportunity to work on some bigger budget projects, I'll be able to afford a good editor because I know.
00:00.240: That there are some certain tricks and stuff.
00:00.240: What are some of the things about 10 that make it possible for you to cut your own pieces?
00:00.240: Don't use the selection tool, the letter A on your keyboard.
00:00.240: way of thinking and you're used to the magnetic time line, you get you know, it uh things just move so so fast.
00:00.240: Sort of inspiration and execution.
00:00.240: It's kind of like seeing a grown man on a really nice Italian racing bicycle that still has training wheels on it.
00:00.240: every other project after after my girlfriend, her name is Kendall, after Kendall's first project, she did it, you know, using just the the magnetic timeline.
00:00.240: so far.
00:00.240: I love that particular as well.
00:00.240: So they have everything there.
00:00.240: you know, the project it has.
00:00.240: You know, it's kind of a review, but it's totally not a review.
00:00.240: And so either I'm either myself as a director or somebody else, they're usually looking for very specific performance things.
00:00.240: you know, the whole theory of, you know, turn off the optimized media thing if you're dealing with HDSLR footage.
00:00.240: I'm not challenging his belief in it and I've heard his uh opinions and I they make sense.
00:00.240: participate in the Final Cut 10 virtual users group, which Sam did last month.
00:00.240: That came to me, I would have never gotten anything done because the turnarounds were so fast.
00:00.240: overkill, you know?
00:00.240: That's really brilliant.
00:00.240: tons of stuff and get a body of we want to get better.
00:00.240: you sit there and you rake up your leaves and you make a pile and whatever you do with them after that, I've I that that part escapes me.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: But you never knew the rake was bad until you saw the leaf blower.
00:00.240: the stuff that they had to think up and put together.
00:00.240: And he called me up, and he's doing a favor for somebody.
00:00.240: you know, universally advantageous ways of performing, you know, stuff like taxi services.
00:00.240: Our clients were four 19 and 20-year-old boys who had raised a lot more money on Kickstarter than they expected to and decided they wanted a real production company to make this short film that they had done.
00:00.240: And I said, Okay.
00:00.240: So one of the things we do a lot is we shoot bigger and cut smaller.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: And I know it's not anamorphic because everything looks right.
00:00.240: He goes, no, they do.
00:00.240: The trick back then was to select everything in your timeline, cut.
00:00.240: And if you ever have a question, you know, I just call him up and he's like, oh, blah, blah, blah.
00:00.240: back at what the beginning of May, I can't remember, it was a blur.
00:00.240: A 4K QuickTime file to a DCP.
00:00.240: I just did it and it was done.
00:00.240: DCPs for people.
00:00.240: One, the dr the housing itself is made of plastic, which doesn't dissipate heat.
00:00.240: I mean, I I've used a lot of Le C drives in my career, but those orange ones, they are the perfect trifecta of bad hard drive, if you think about it.
00:00.240: My personal favorite now, and I will say that I don't have any computers that are Thunderbolt two yet, but my personal favorite now is al actually also a Lessee.
00:00.240: And it's actually it is a heat heatsink.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: The silence you hear is me using the intranet.
00:00.240: Fan, a bit of a downside there.
00:00.240: Yeah, I've been thinking about it.
00:00.240: you could buy the dock and then it comes with two drives.
00:00.240: No, I'm very light skinned.
00:00.240: So, anyway, that's it for this episode.
00:00.240: Is there any way people can find you?
00:00.240: Sunday morning at 9 a.
00:00.240: We'll be back Monday with another episode.
00:00.320: The thing I like most about premium beats is, A, it's easy to edit, B, it's um it has you have the ability of getting the the loop pack
00:00.320: Sure.
00:00.320: While we're waiting for chat, I want to remind you to go take a look at PremiumBeat.
00:00.320: And some computers, and I could do it all myself.
00:00.320: And I'm the I'm it sounds like it's a big th deal, but it's not, since we're really not that big of a community.
00:00.320: things and the technological advances and how they're helping move things along and where my co host Garrett talks about
00:00.320: is um you do the Film Geeks, I think you call it?
00:00.320: And I was like, really?
00:00.320: Yeah, you you edit, but you don't necessarily consider yourself like an editor, like ten hours a day editor.
00:00.320: Well, it was the only thing that no matter what I pumped out of it.
00:00.320: And but when I would run something through tan, yeah, it would work every single time.
00:00.320: you know, and um the guy I work for, Paul, he's like that.
00:00.320: And your work is just more consistent when you do that.
00:00.320: So the problem is to set it up the first time probably takes more time than just doing it.
00:00.320: Right.
00:00.320: Um I did a whole tutorial on my website on how to use the um how to create templates
00:00.320: For After Effects.
00:00.320: Switched it to H.
00:00.320: Right, right, yeah.
00:00.320: of exports.
00:00.320: exporting a ton of stuff because we're basically taking the illustrations and then putting them in three D space and then moving the camera around
00:00.320: Or B, you can export additional ones.
00:00.320: I audition, and I'm a I'm an a I'm a director that loves casting as well.
00:00.320: And when I do that, I'll upload all the audition tapes.
00:00.320: You know, maybe it'll take me half an hour, 45 minutes, hours at the most to take basically like sometimes up to 40 different auditions and queue them up.
00:00.320: It was a bunch of sound bites.
00:00.320: And Flash and Photoshop and Illustrator.
00:00.320: if you go to a different app?
00:00.320: You know, I'll just hide it.
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: Before I start shooting, you know, because that old adage: failing to prepare is preparing to fail.
00:00.320: um or wooden, I don't know how you pronounce the name.
00:00.320: He'd not only ignore the storyboard, he'd cut entire scenes.
00:00.320: So that was when I started editing my own projects.
00:00.320: Literally, they'd sit in my lap, I think, if I let them.
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: And I think it's really easy as an editor to kind of get into something and go, oh, yeah, I didn't get that.
00:00.320: These days, the editor barely gets enough time to even watch the footage, let alone cut it.
00:00.320: Narrative and commercial are two completely different things.
00:00.320: And so that is that's a very that's that's where that's the stuff that I am interested in.
00:00.320: By and large, I think people are too you know, to me, what's more important is the story.
00:00.320: you know, years, ma months, maybe years, you know, crafting a script before you go and shoot it.
00:00.320: Is, you know, when I first started, is now the thing that I love the most about it.
00:00.320: Oh, yeah.
00:00.320: Awesome.
00:00.320: I just leave them alone.
00:00.320: person slash director is I'm looking for very specific qualities.
00:00.320: Okay, so enough of my own personal plugging.
00:00.320: Alex Lindsay from the Pixel Corps.
00:00.320: Job next week, and he actually got me on that show.
00:00.320: And so I will ask him.
00:00.320: You'll have like sink issues or little tiny things, and it is his experience that
00:00.320: For us, for people like us, speed is the key.
00:00.320: and you step out in your front yard, and it's autumn and there's leaves all over.
00:00.320: No, I think that's and that's that's true in a lot of in a lot of facets of the I mean, I'm a big as much of a sort of a director and producer as I am, I think that a lot of
00:00.320: business practices.
00:00.320: It's a it it it if once you get used to it, I think that maybe in 20 years people are going to be like, Oh, there was something other than that?
00:00.320: And they don't know that some of these things they don't even know of a time where Skype didn't exist, where everybody didn't have a cell phone.
00:00.320: You know, that some people have gotten away.
00:00.320: And I talked him through that, and he's like, Oh, yeah, the aspect ratio was wrong.
00:00.320: You know, it was and then we ended up because we shot it on an epic, I obviously made proxy files of everything so that I could cut it.
00:00.320: And Sam is so awesome.
00:00.320: you know, nine hours into it, the thing totally seized up.
00:00.320: I shut down, I unplugged the drive and I let it sit for a few minutes.
00:00.320: What do you what do you do you have something?
00:00.320: you know, like a DIT in the field, I always recommend trying to do something that is bus powered, especially if you're managing footage off of a laptop.
00:00.320: now the little single drives that they put in are like smaller, but the gates on the pro are actually bigger.
00:00.320: It's costy as anything.
00:00.320: Yeah, I that's probably going to get one of those.
00:00.320: Yep, always something new and better.
00:00.320: And I really loved his trick of putting his auditions on YouTube as unlisted.
00:00.320: Really brilliant and straight out of Funnel Cut 10.
00:00.320: So please come and log on to that.
00:00.320: So, I highly encourage you to come and participate in that.
00:00.400: that come together once a week.
00:00.400: Who buys into the hype of independent filmmaking and look, I just need a camera
00:00.400: And they have a great favorites section.
00:00.400: like theater stuff, you know, like the new Into the Woods movie that's, you know, that's more her interest is everything from theater stuff that's stuff that's like more sort of sexually.
00:00.400: Personal.
00:00.400: Because people say, oh, it's iMovie Pro, because it makes things so much easier.
00:00.400: The whole time.
00:00.400: It's a four-minute piece.
00:00.400: go to town on those because I only need a couple of cores to do this, you know, checking my calendar and my Facebooker.
00:00.400: And 'cause it's me and my brother and and my girlfriend.
00:00.400: You know, I shall want to be a part of the action, but I literally have to keep, you know, pulling my keyboard and mouse further to the side.
00:00.400: But for those of you listening on audio, I was sliding out of frame in our video chat window.
00:00.400: You know, go, you know, make it cool.
00:00.400: if you don't know when it especially when it comes to narrative what story you're telling, then it becomes difficult.
00:00.400: interest is what is the sort of the question that the audience is asking themselves at each and every moment
00:00.400: Bruce goes and looks up mister Fox and, you know, reconnects and he's looking at the he se he shows him the bat plane.
00:00.400: Yeah, I'm not, you know, I'm not a, I don't honestly, and I know that a lot of people hate this, but I don't care about
00:00.400: I I I watched uh I think it was Dark Knight Rises yesterday um and it's the it's the one with Bane.
00:00.400: you put each person in their own file so that it's easier to random access.
00:00.400: Funnel Cut 10 because that was like the big thing for those first two years.
00:00.400: Yeah, that was I mean I've my I think it was the first thing that I had actually cut cut in
00:00.400: Oh, wow.
00:00.400: What's it called?
00:00.400: Yeah, bus bus powered is really a big deal when you're doing DIT work in the field.
00:00.400: It's really I'm you know, I maybe I'm stepping outside my realm of expertise here.
00:00.400: Because that's going through the ESATA port.
00:00.400: Yeah.
00:00.400: That's great.
00:00.480: Production music company.
00:00.480: which makes it even easier to edit.
00:00.480: Because it's very easy to put dialogue over premium beat soundtracks.
00:00.480: Not yet, but I'm sure it'll be sure it'll be up in a moment.
00:00.480: Yeah, I uh I b believe it or not, like even though we go to the bar afterwards, that's where we do actually I end up having tons of meetings is what's happening.
00:00.480: I know I told her be safe.
00:00.480: And you know, this show is primarily about Final Cut 10.
00:00.480: is that people say, oh, I can just set those settings again.
00:00.480: Makes so much possible with it, you know?
00:00.480: Okay.
00:00.480: So but you do say you have you edit because you don't trust editor.
00:00.480: producer editor relationships I think I ever had was I a few years ago I cut some things for uh Shane and Lydia Hurlbutt from Hurlbut Visuals.
00:00.480: but very poignant input where he's like, you know what, there's some great B-roll you don't have yet.
00:00.480: And then it was like, yeah, love it.
00:00.480: We perceive to be the right thing, you know, given the time constraints that we have.
00:00.480: It's difficult for me.
00:00.480: cutaways or those little B roll bits or those where you're telegraphing what is to come sometimes much later.
00:00.480: Once you get over once you figure out what it really is and how do you what's hilarious too is I'll see projects.
00:00.480: Right.
00:00.480: Oh, yeah.
00:00.480: Oh man.
00:00.480: And he was like, Ah, I can't figure this out.
00:00.480: Okay, Chad, thanks so much.
00:00.480: Thursday, I believe it's like the 14th or 15th of August, I'm going to be on the FunnelCut Pro Virtual Users Group.
00:00.560: That's an organization that he works with or runs or started, or I don't know, but I know he he's a part of it in LA.
00:00.560: There he is.
00:00.560: They are actually.
00:00.560: Give me like the brief elevator pitch of what We Make Movies is and what your part is there.
00:00.560: Who edits, who I have yet to find an editor that I trust.
00:00.560: And every single time I pumped a video out from that and then I put that video into the PDF, it worked.
00:00.560: And definitely an Adobe Media Converter.
00:00.560: I don't even know.
00:00.560: And uh and then there's other people and and I think w uh one of the most interesting director um
00:00.560: And now any time you move stuff, it's like, you know what?
00:00.560: Time traveling as I speak.
00:00.560: So I just pull it right into Final Cut Pro, slap it together, and send it off.
00:00.560: By and large, the people in this business are really smart.
00:00.560: stuff that we do, that we make movies does, that I'm really interested in the reason that Sam basically agreed to give me the position that I have back in November
00:00.560: Where it was a standard de excuse me, it was an H D timeline, but and he was cutting this in Final Cut VII, he had the pixel aspect ratio wrong.
00:00.560: Oh, wow.
00:00.560: Just word of caution.
00:00.560: And it's Thunderbolt, it's metal, it's got a fan, it's got vents, it's got, you know, he uh
00:00.560: it's a little bit outdated, but um you do get more speed off the thing when you have it in the Thunderbolt caddy.
00:00.560: So like one thing you plug in, it has USB 3.
00:00.560: And you could slide this thing in there, and now you have even more speed off of that drive.
00:00.560: But anyway, that was a great conversation.
00:00.640: In my day job, I work at an ad agency, which is actually where I'm at right now.
00:00.640: Oh, you know what?
00:00.640: Right, right, yeah.
00:00.640: You know, and there's a little throwaway line in there about the autopilot.
00:00.640: if you can do it in a way that's that's subtle enough and not too cliched, if you could tweak it just a little bit, then I think you can you know, and I'm a huge
00:00.640: constant and consistent frame size, frame rate, et cetera, et cetera.
00:00.640: And you start raking up the leaves.
00:00.640: Until you see a leaf blower.
00:00.640: What's difficult is there is a leaf blower, but they don't recognize it as such.
00:00.640: I really do dig the way the Final Cut Pro X works is that it does a lot of things that, you know
00:00.640: In ten, you could just go to the project settings and just go click on that, change the asp you know, change the setting, click go, and it does everything for you.
00:00.640: because that gives you an absolute fail safe when the ele when the electrics pull your power, because it's going to happen.
00:00.640: It's just we make movies.
00:00.720: So that is Chad Kukihiko.
00:00.720: There's nothing.
00:00.720: However, it's the second, third and fourth and Advent item in Adventitum that it's like just way faster.
00:00.720: If you let go of the mouse for you know, our our computer is set for like a second.
00:00.720: I just it's just a matter of time, honestly.
00:00.720: We had Jason Wingrove from the RC and Paul Schneider from he's an LA based director and a kind of a FECS guy, sort of self-taught.
00:00.720: It's great chat.
00:00.720: Exactly.
00:00.720: But it is a it's a system of drives.
00:00.720: They don't have Thunderbolt?
00:00.720: The M4 can be filled it's a four drive RAID, and you can put four solid state drives in it.
00:00.800: He just dials it all in.
00:00.800: doing a little bit of rendering when it can.
00:00.800: Until they don't buy you a new one.
00:00.800: A project that I started with that we shot, and that was actually back in seven.
00:00.800: And I I found it kind of funny because and I was kind of laughing at him about it.
00:00.800: Into a twelve eighty by seven twenty timeline that was non-square pixels.
00:00.880: reaction.
00:00.880: And then commercial projects.
00:00.880: He edits all his own stuff as well.
00:00.880: I mean, definitely, I've already kind of started to take for granted the fact that everything also works in the background, but that I cannot deny how much
00:00.880: We just as a matter of fact, the other show that I do, Digital Cinema Cafe, let me think.
00:00.880: How bad certain things are.
00:00.960: Everything's short of porn.
00:00.960: So I don't know if that answered your questions.
00:00.960: I don't do a ton of the commercial projects that we do, but we occasionally, if I have to, I'll do it.
00:00.960: With the editor shaping it.
00:00.960: It they took a really, really big leap and they decided that they were going to change.
00:00.960: And I've literally, I had somebody hand me a project on one of those, and they're like, go, go, go, start cutting.
00:00.960: A heat sink.
00:01.040: So today we're talking with Chad Kukuhiko, and he is, I believe he's the chief operating officer.
00:01.040: Okay, no problem.
00:01.040: Yeah, that's what We Meant Goomies is all about.
00:01.040: So I was just I had basically just opened up the program.
00:01.040: I really wish that was a setting though, because we had more and more we have these machines with a greater number of cores.
00:01.040: The guy who was really interested in doing this was I don't want to say what he's done, but he's done a lot just because I don't want to, you know, I don't want to
00:01.040: I'm the best that I can afford, is the thing.
00:01.040: in ten was a was a something that we'd shot on an epic.
00:01.120: The production music is written by frustrated rockers and they're just trying to make a couple extra bucks, and this music is crafted in a way that really, really works for us.
00:01.120: It's it's uh I think it's like she's she's Christian, which is awesome by the way.
00:01.120: Tell us about your involvement with technology in post in regards to post production.
00:01.120: How do I want to say this?
00:01.120: And it was and the exports, I mean, it was just you had to s you had to basically sit and you know, I mean, you could queue 'em up, but your computer was useless.
00:01.120: What's an I7?
00:01.120: I mean, especially and you do it unlisted, so they don't even have to log in per se, they just have to have the link.
00:01.120: You know, they know everything that you can do with the rake.
00:01.120: And it's going to happen at the end of the day when you got your last card and you're offing it onto your drive and I was like, ah, right, right.
00:01.120: Oh, that's what it's called.
00:01.120: Or as Jason Wingrove called it, gas gear acquisition syndrome.
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00:01.200: I s put in stills from what we had shot into the storyboard after we had shot, so that there was no question.
00:01.200: And I love those little hints.
00:01.200: Even Funnel Cut 7 would automatically change the timeline to match, if you allowed it to, to match the first piece of footage that you dragged in.
00:01.200: Did you do Twitter or Facebook?
00:01.280: And that's one thing that I dig is that I can be working on multiple projects at the same time.
00:01.280: I mean, yeah, it's I thankfully don't have to buy my own computers here at work, so I just get what they give me.
00:01.280: I mean, it's just a lot of short films.
00:01.280: And it took like two days.
00:01.360: A slug.
00:01.360: Well, I will tell you this.
00:01.360: Yeah.
00:01.360: It's because you can get those.
00:01.360: Promise, they have a new portable drive called an M4.
00:01.440: Now, you may have heard me talking about We Make Movies because Sam Mestman, who's been a guest on the show a couple of times
00:01.440: Yeah.
00:01.440: And it's really going to slow it down if people try to print it.
00:01.440: I'm sorry.
00:01.440: That's a really good point.
00:01.440: I'm a huge fan of the Nolans, you know, in general.
00:01.440: I mean, it's just because when I'm doing auditions, I'm not doing it for you know, I'm doing it for performance.
00:01.440: Just transcode everything.
00:01.440: is that I'm fascinated with the ways that people are able to take any technological advance and turn it into something.
00:01.440: What is this rake you speak of?
00:01.440: And when you and now you just paste it right back.
00:01.440: And what would you suggest for that?
00:01.440: My mom's genes won, basically.
00:01.520: I mean, and it's hilarious because you'd think that Adobe would be able to create some things that would consistently produce videos that you could put into PDFs.
00:01.520: Well, n no, what I was going to say is that you know, it's interesting, you said that you had built this template and this this
00:01.520: I mean, it exported in faster than real time.
00:01.520: I'm looking at it.
00:01.520: you are absolutely embodying, I think, what Apple tried to do, was trying to do all along.
00:01.520: Why are we discussing that?
00:01.520: And just on the phone, I was able to ascertain what he had done wrong.
00:01.600: There you go.
00:01.600: We are we uh there's an extra project that we're gonna that we're gonna end up doing based on a meeting I had just last night.
00:01.600: Now the other thing that you do, and I was just watching one of your podcasts that you do via Google Hangouts, Hangouts on Air actually.
00:01.600: And so when I started editing with it, I was already sort of familiar with it.
00:01.600: That's why, I mean, it's not that I don't think that there are good editors out there.
00:01.600: We have Epics, they have C three hundreds, they have the sketch that I myself edited there, we shot for camera
00:01.600: And so all of his footage was being letter boxed very slightly.
00:01.600: You know what Sam has?
00:01.600: They do not have any vents, also a downside, but they have multiple little plugs on the end of it that you can plug in to interface with anything.
00:01.680: Hey, so thanks for doing this.
00:01.680: Actually, she's going to be in Africa for the next four shows, so she's not going to be there for the next four shows.
00:01.680: And then I know, okay, so it's finished.
00:01.680: Oh, primarily.
00:01.680: I love that there are people out there that are interested in finding better and cheaper ways and more
00:01.680: It's built inside of a heatsink, which has, you know, you know how a heatsink works.
00:01.680: It's wicked expensive.
00:01.760: Did it work?
00:01.760: That's the cool thing about we make movies is we do so much stuff.
00:01.760: Yeah, you know, I was just helping my niece buy a computer the other day, and you know, she's literally like the email and Facebook and writing papers and stuff.
00:01.760: And there's a line in like the first reel or something where maybe probably second reel where
00:01.760: Just because I mean, obviously, if you do something that's too cliched, then it just pulls people out entirely.
00:01.760: And yeah, I think that a lot of quote unquote professional editors, and I hate that term, and it gets very much maligned in this discussion when you talk about
00:01.760: As a matter of fact, I was I was looking at one the other day, a couple of um a month or two ago, and my friend was like, Yeah, you should get that.
00:01.840: Yeah, that's better.
00:01.840: I do a lot of After Effects work.
00:01.840: They were all chroma keyed.
00:01.840: You should check it out.
00:01.840: And I go, yeah, no, they don't.
00:01.840: I appreciate it.
00:01.840: How do they find out about you and We Make Movies Online?
00:01.920: She said she's not going to be anywhere n where Ebola is or book on her own or whatever.
00:01.920: And I started showing him some stuff about the Ebola stuff online.
00:01.920: And I tell people all the time, and one of the things I like to do on this show is kind of ta you know, click onto things where you hear people say something.
00:01.920: I mean, that was about.
00:01.920: Because I had to there were some projects where I had to do that, where they were like, okay, these fifteen movies we want in the PDF.
00:01.920: What's up?
00:01.920: I will ask him, you know, I I because I do think it's curious.
00:01.920: They've got these G drives that you can put inside this G Doc.
00:01.920: Thanks for listening.
00:01.920: No, it's yeah, it's it looks awful if you go to it.
00:02.000: I'm on my bike.
00:02.000: Hey man, sorry about that.
00:02.000: So I'm not even looking at it.
00:02.000: He's done a ton.
00:02.000: Yeah.
00:02.000: the little drives and I and it looks like they're you know they've they've built it in such a way that it should be good for another couple of years because the things that they have
00:02.000: They do not.
00:02.080: Ratings.
00:02.080: That was a good joke.
00:02.080: That's pretty much everything that we add it.
00:02.080: That to us is the most important thing.
00:02.080: org or Facebook.
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00:02.160: I don't even know how much core, how many cores are there.
00:02.160: And then it exported it really fast.
00:02.240: And I'm like, you know what, dude?
00:02.240: I'm sorry, dude.
00:02.240: I believe that there are a lot of places in our society where we don't know
00:02.320: Okay, cool.
00:02.320: But um but that was uh you know another thing that we it was I I just find that I can use it for so many different things.
00:02.320: That's a little bit of an understatement, but I was like, I just didn't get it.
00:02.320: But he's like, but the autopilot is absolutely something that's critical to the last scene of the movie.
00:02.320: And he was putting everything on top because he was trying to.
00:02.320: Yeah, right, yeah.
00:02.400: So I think one of the downsides of being really smart is.
00:02.400: Well, I know that because of my day job, I do you know, I work in a ton of mostly Adobe.
00:02.400: Right.
00:02.400: Thank you, Chris.
00:02.480: Anyway, um so that's my sort of philosophy as a director.
00:02.480: I got a call from a shooter friend of mine the other night, and you're talking about they didn't know a time when.
00:02.480: It'll be a live 9 a.
00:02.560: Okay.
00:02.560: It's called ratings.
00:02.560: What did you call it?
00:02.560: I mean, he's still very much believes.
00:02.560: You may not have wanted to share that because it's pretty cool.
00:02.560: It's ribbed like that.
00:02.560: But if you look at the back of those G drives, they have an ESATA port and a USB 3 port.
00:02.640: That's why I sound like I'm out of breath.
00:02.640: Okay, so and you're and when you're saying Final Cut Pro, you're referring to Final Cut 10, correct?
00:02.640: No, I'm just saying.
00:02.640: He came over and he had a big sort of, I don't know, like a black, what do you call it?
00:02.640: We did a whole episode on Digital Cinema Cafe all about the A7S.
00:02.640: If you have the ability to use a better tool, why wouldn't you?
00:02.640: And I had to get a huge, huge hard drive to put it all on.
00:02.640: I think I don't know if you still can, but they had this deal going over December a long time ago where for like seven hundred bucks
00:02.640: You know, I I really like doing this because quite often, a lot of times, I have no idea where the interview is going to go and it's kind of just sort of a freeform thing.
00:02.720: And the rake's a great tool.
00:02.720: And I think that I completely agree with you.
00:02.720: I think that's a nice little and it's small, it'll fit in my Pelican 1510, which I can then carry on.
00:02.720: We'll be back Monday with another episode.
00:02.800: And it the way sonically it rests in the mix really works.
00:02.800: I really appreciate you taking the time and getting up early.
00:02.800: And that's I'm very happy to be a part of it.
00:02.800: It was super inconsistent, and I was having all kinds of problems.
00:02.800: Absolutely.
00:02.800: And I don't want to imply that they weren't interested in having a great product.
00:02.800: And that I, you know, I'm very, I'm not, I don't think for half a second that I'm the greatest editor on the face of the earth.
00:02.800: It just shrinks.
00:02.800: I will I definitely after we I'll get the link from you afterwards.
00:02.800: That means vast majority.
00:02.800: They got some racket and they've been doing it for 20, 30, 40, 50 years, whatever.
00:02.800: He made me a DCP.
00:02.800: Not the one I just clicked on.
00:02.880: So that's what you're talking about.
00:02.880: Primarily, we've done like pilot presentations.
00:02.880: And I and I put up cuts, and he was like, Yeah, I like that.
00:02.880: I'll tell you what Sam has.
00:02.960: Yeah, I get it.
00:02.960: I don't know.
00:02.960: But if you're you know, if you're one of us and you're doing serious stuff, the I seven does make a big difference.
00:02.960: I wouldn't be a part of We Make Movies if I was.
00:02.960: And so he called me up and he started telling me about it.
00:02.960: I'm not a fan of those orange Lacie rugged drives.
00:03.040: It's like, no, you can't, man.
00:03.040: Come on.
00:03.040: Yeah.
00:03.040: Chad, what do you typically shoot with?
00:03.040: When we shoot Final Cut Pro X, I mean, when we shoot sorry, when we shoot for the sketches, for we make movies, we shoot primarily the YouTube space.
00:03.040: Yeah, you gotta be really those rugged drives are great for transporting footage.
00:03.040: What would you cut on that you'd have that like if you were in a situation like me where you kind of need to be able to cut mobile, throw something in your bag?
00:03.120: And as he said, in two minutes he will be at the at his office where his actual computer box is.
00:03.120: I mean, my everything is like my storyboard is, I have a, I have, you know, I see what I want.
00:03.120: And that was back in 7.
00:03.120: Because no one's really ever going to see that but you.
00:03.120: Right.
00:03.120: One thing you plug in, it has FireWire 800.
00:03.200: And Premium Beat, as you may have heard me say.
00:03.200: So he kind of narrows it down to just the comic book movies.
00:03.200: Right.
00:03.200: com/slash C Kukahiko.
00:03.280: Yes, hey.
00:03.280: They were all color corrected.
00:03.280: And so I'll be working on something else, and then it'll pop up, a window will pop up, and I'll know.
00:03.280: The guy's teasing me about getting me a Mac Pro and he just it's I think I got a year left on my lease, so I know that they're not going to get it for me until this lease is up.
00:03.280: Next Thursday, I believe, August 14th.
00:03.280: For so stuff like that, it's basically purely for reference.
00:03.280: I don't know if there's a great trick and if people are still having to deal with this.
00:03.360: Honestly, it sounds more like a party than anything else.
00:03.360: And I gotta say, you know, like 90% of what I do is, you know, corporate heads and branding type stuff.
00:03.360: No, I just turned my camera on.
00:03.360: Those are the main programs that I work in.
00:03.360: So I don't I mean, I just kind of always assumed it was actually working in the background, but maybe it's yeah, well maybe it is when you're in a different app.
00:03.360: It's like it's a family production company.
00:03.360: I mean, and high-profile.
00:03.360: I'm sorry.
00:03.360: And of course, my background has come from or my decision came from a big job I did a couple of summers ago where I literally, if I had decided to transcode all the footage,
00:03.440: So like one of the things I'd do is I'd go through and I'll just listen to music and go, Oh, I'm going to use that one day
00:03.440: Yeah, I was just doing something the other day where I think it was just yesterday, and it was about like four minutes.
00:03.440: Sorry, one more time, I don't know.
00:03.440: Yeah, it is.
00:03.440: It looks norm.
00:03.520: It's no big deal at all.
00:03.520: And so you have to know how to do the output settings and the render settings and stuff.
00:03.520: And I still have contentions with calling it background rendering, because it's really not.
00:03.520: You know, they their chair keeps getting closer and closer, and it's like there's this one wo woman I work with, and she
00:03.520: You know, that might be a little too, you know, pop filmmaking, but that's what a story is, you know.
00:03.520: Welcome to Final Cut VII again.
00:03.520: Okay?
00:03.520: Later, later.
00:03.600: Well, I mean, I had a very specific profile that I was using.
00:03.600: Gotcha.
00:03.600: And I think that I'll tell you here, and this is something that's been I've been mulling over for the last week.
00:03.600: I've never.
00:03.600: It's a pleasure.
00:03.600: Oh, see Kukahiko.
00:03.680: It'll start going, then grab the mouse.
00:03.680: And so and I was cutting those all together.
00:03.680: What we want is we want more material.
00:03.680: But if you pull the dock out of excuse me, if you pull the drive out of the dock, you still have a USB three port, which is makes a giant huge difference when you're moving a lot of data around.
00:03.680: Or that was the deal was you got you know.
00:03.760: But now it goes even one step further.
00:03.760: So that's one thing.
00:03.840: Anyway, well, to be fair, I actually had no idea that's what I was doing when I was doing it.
00:03.840: And he's like, Yeah, I'll cut this thing for you.
00:03.840: So is it self-powered or you have to plug it in separately?
00:03.840: They're little plastic drives downside.
00:03.920: So that was funny.
00:03.920: No.
00:03.920: You can just absolutely.
00:03.920: So you mentioned that you do all your auditions on the 7D.
00:03.920: That's why I have three projects in post right now, and that's why I'm already beginning a fourth, but you know, that we're going to shoot in two weeks.
00:03.920: They're brilliant people.
00:03.920: And then you go, Yeah, I want that.
00:03.920: He has a really big brain and it's filled with great knowledge.
00:03.920: Great example of how Apple has made this tool much more accessible to more people.
00:04.000: I'm not that guy.
00:04.000: And that's one of the things I think we like about Final Cut is, you know, it gets a lot of bad press.
00:04.000: I always do what I call it a Texas Master because it's the really big file.
00:04.000: I didn't wake up in your skin this morning.
00:04.000: So we'll shoot 1080 and cut 720, which is the way a lot of people now are shooting 4K and cutting 1080.
00:04.000: But it's Thunderbolt 2.
00:04.080: Um, I'm on my way there.
00:04.080: Check it out.
00:04.080: Yes, it's a big file, but from that file I can make any compressions or whatever that I need.
00:04.080: Gotcha.
00:04.080: Well, a professional would never would never use this.
00:04.080: And so I gave him that.
00:04.080: I was really surprised.
00:04.160: com.
00:04.160: So what do you what do you enjoy about cutting in Final Cut ten?
00:04.160: People look normal.
00:04.160: You know, Seagate has a thing, I can't remember what it's called.
00:04.240: That's right.
00:04.240: And I listen, I love After Effects as well.
00:04.240: I'm just saying, you said shortest attention span, and I said, I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention.
00:04.240: It's really like two guys, serious shooters, and they want to talk about this camera.
00:04.240: Right, right.
00:04.240: You know, it works good.
00:04.320: Use the position tool, the letter P
00:04.320: Oh no.
00:04.400: And they we do we actually that was the first time I really started to use Final Cut Pro X Final Cut
00:04.400: I mean, X wasn't out at the time back then.
00:04.400: So the majority of the stuff that we're doing, we're trying to do
00:04.400: So I want you to think about being, you know, go back 30 years.
00:04.400: Right, exactly.
00:04.480: I got lights, too.
00:04.480: Like he he doesn't make presets
00:04.480: Wow.
00:04.480: Throw me a bone, William.
00:04.480: When we do commercials, I have a small production company called Super Freako Productions.
00:04.480: Well, yeah, that's the those are, yeah, and then the dock itself, like they have this evolution.
00:04.560: And I think that a lot of people, when they look at the
00:04.560: Oh, very interesting use.
00:04.560: Right.
00:04.560: Yeah, and so as an editor, if you weren't clued into that, because you know, you've spent
00:04.560: I they had the capabilities of doing, you know, 4K.
00:04.560: Two, it's insulated and wrapped in rubber.
00:04.560: Yeah.
00:04.560: WeMakeMovies.
00:04.560: It'll be great.
00:04.640: Yeah, we do a a weekly Film Geeks podcast where I talk about sort of
00:04.640: And I believe what he said about you is
00:04.640: I was like, what am I doing?
00:04.640: And I don't want to make this a the entrepreneur show instead, but that's why I dig
00:04.640: Um, did you ever edit uh standard deaf?
00:04.640: It's very funny.
00:04.720: He's like, I don't want to go now.
00:04.720: Nothing else was working.
00:04.720: They were all, you know, whatever.
00:04.720: Digital Cinema Cafe.
00:04.720: I mean, we're all about you know that and that and I think that's the other point that's the other thing too is that
00:04.720: Yeah.
00:04.720: I go, Yes, it was.
00:04.720: He was able, I don't know what he has, but he has something that will convert
00:04.720: And Kukahiko is K-U-K-A-I-K-O.
00:04.720: m.
00:04.800: That was probably one of the most interesting hellos I've ever had doing the show.
00:04.800: Well, if you're looking at like the I7 IMAX, those are quad-core machines.
00:04.800: And the guy who we gave it to was like, because we work in advertising, me and my girlfriend both.
00:04.800: And the funny thing is, a lot of these things that people are creating, like Uber and Lyft, et cetera, they're not that really incredible technologically speaking.
00:04.880: Premium Beat is the music search tool licensing company.
00:04.880: I'll audition tons of actors for a specific role.
00:04.880: Actually, I think that one is set for 0.
00:04.880: So it's very interesting, you know, 'cause I I work with directors all the time and producers, and it is a difficult
00:04.880: Our and not you know, yes, there are definitely post-production people in our thing, but we want to get better at the acting
00:04.880: I tried before for Shot on Red.
00:04.880: Pacific.
00:04.960: I figured you know, you could see.
00:04.960: It's a party.
00:04.960: So that's the only reason I'm ever editing is that I have to, you know?
00:04.960: I was like, how can you ignore everything that?
00:04.960: But I really, really, really am looking forward to the day where I don't have to edit my own stuff.
00:04.960: Magnetic timeline?
00:04.960: Like, I don't know who thought up the magnetic timeline, you know, but how they
00:04.960: I'm like, yeah, no, they don't actually.
00:05.040: It's a really cool organization.
00:05.040: I'll just open this up in QuickTime Pro and then I know that here's my bitrate, here's my frame size, here's my frame count, you know, di di di da click, click, click, click,
00:05.040: He played the Hollywood game well.
00:05.040: Yeah.
00:05.040: You move really, really fast.
00:05.040: And that's with Alex Lindsay and Mark Spencer and Steve Martin.
00:05.040: And you're posting them online, private settings, so that other people on the film can
00:05.120: com.
00:05.120: I was actually recording when I first answered.
00:05.120: And I know you were out you were out at We Make Movies last night, right?
00:05.120: I didn't understand it.
00:05.120: And another thing is, is if you is exactly I think the second one is that what you said is if you don't know like
00:05.120: I mean, I think for auditions, that's kind of
00:05.200: But I'm very nearly out of breath.
00:05.200: And the thing that I really loved already about it was how I could just queue up a ton.
00:05.200: Yeah, and plus, one thing that I use because I am a director.
00:05.200: You know, I mean, because Final Cut is always.
00:05.200: And so they need much.
00:05.200: Great.
00:05.200: And so I talked him through the process in Final Cut 7 of how to change that in the timeline, which is actually quite.
00:05.280: I'll just basically all the takes take all the takes for each actor and create a separate project and just throw them in really quick.
00:05.280: I obviously do.
00:05.280: And he's like, why would you do that?
00:05.280: And it just stopped spinning.
00:05.280: Okay, it's a I think.
00:05.360: Hey, um, I see your cool mic there.
00:05.360: So we were able to hire some animators and stuff.
00:05.360: And we upload I was working on a project called Short Attention Spend.
00:05.360: And that stuff that, you know, if it's a super I'm I'm pretty much the only one.
00:05.360: But all my cousins are dark as hell, no matter where they grew up.
00:05.440: I didn't know that's what it was doing.
00:05.440: Right, right.
00:05.440: Right, exactly.
00:05.440: And, you know, basically what he says is that quite often in the final stages
00:05.440: I was like, Okay, okay, okay.
00:05.440: Right, right.
00:05.520: I'm like two minutes away.
00:05.520: Check it out.
00:05.520: Look at that.
00:05.520: You haven't found an editor you trust.
00:05.520: Right, right.
00:05.520: You know, this film that is funny, this short film that we just shot.
00:05.520: It's like, you know, it's so I felt like.
00:05.520: It'll be a live Google Hangout, and I think it's available on iTunes later.
00:05.520: It's like the ultimate virtual users group.
00:05.600: You got to get everybody involved.
00:05.600: We're honestly I mean, the best way to describe us is we're just a bunch of filmmakers who make movies together.
00:05.600: Right, right.
00:05.600: I'm going to have to look into that.
00:05.600: And it was like a commercial.
00:05.600: And I was like, Okay, remember back when you said everybody looks right?
00:05.680: I'm not that smart.
00:05.680: And yet, you know, it still does very advanced stuff, but it also makes things easier.
00:05.680: Let me send you some stuff from another shoot that we did.
00:05.680: And so I think that when it's when it's something that sort of specific
00:05.680: Well, what's he editing for?
00:05.680: And outputting, you know, going from proxy and then switching back to 4K was so easy.
00:05.680: Oh, here we go.
00:05.680: org.
00:05.760: Okay, sorry.
00:05.760: So, you know, I don't know.
00:05.760: Today is Thursday the 7th.
00:05.760: So I would that's just honestly for that kind of thing.
00:05.840: And what just curious, what's she doing in Africa?
00:05.840: Yeah.
00:05.840: We've done a lot of short films.
00:05.840: A director, a friend of mine came over, and he's in the same boat as I am.
00:05.840: That's actually a very good trick if you're trying to sort of maintain a Final Cut 7 metaphor.
00:05.840: And he's going to be away on a top secret super super
00:05.840: And
00:05.840: Like 1990s web design.
00:05.920: Yeah.
00:05.920: Compressor, nothing else was working at the time.
00:05.920: And I just and before I knew it, I was.
00:05.920: And I don't like to, you know, it's a, you don't know, it's Wooten, I think his name, coach from UCLA, whatever.
00:05.920: Well, the thing that I hated the most about Ten
00:05.920: He was like, Oh, well, I was just, you know, I did what I had to do because I didn't understand.
00:05.920: I'd love to check that out.
00:05.920: And it's really it's really good to be Sam's friend because he knows everything.
00:05.920: And
00:05.920: Alex Lindsay has this cool utility where you can ask questions.
00:06.000: I mean, I think there are a couple issues, really, is that A
00:06.000: And they are awesome with a rake.
00:06.000: So there's a moment there where you have all this stuff like kind of in the ether in your copy.
00:06.000: But again, what I like about this is it's made of metal.
00:06.000: Anyway, that was Chad Kukuhiko.
00:06.080: So we um uh when I first started editing, it was basically
00:06.080: Yeah, so I was just thinking cutting with a slug in your primary storyline is what you're talking about.
00:06.080: And and then so when it was time to output for uh you know, we ended up screening it at at Dances with Films.
00:06.080: We're going to we're tr I'm actually going to reach out to the guy who owns WeMakeMovies.
00:06.160: It took me a while to figure it out.
00:06.160: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:06.160: And I think on my website I did a speed test with all the various drives that I deal with.
00:06.240: But Chad will tell us more about that.
00:06.240: But she basically covers everything from like
00:06.240: Yeah, and what you're talking about here is the ability to go to that share menu.
00:06.240: All the auditions that we shoot, we shoot 7D.
00:06.240: And so I think there's a lot of stuff, an awful lot of stuff, is in this industry where
00:06.240: And have you ever used the evolution stuff from G Technology?
00:06.240: And my next laptop, whenever I get that, that'll be Thunderbolt 2.
00:06.320: It's really easy to sign up, get an account.
00:06.320: Right.
00:06.320: Yeah, so you're actually doing the share to YouTube setting at that point.
00:06.320: You've written this thing, you have the whole thing in your head.
00:06.320: I mean, and I know that there's different types of people, but that's you know, I think that
00:06.320: Well, I think I mean, I think it'd be kind of silly for in this day and age for any casting director
00:06.320: You know what I mean?
00:06.320: Right.
00:06.320: It's like, oh, okay.
00:06.320: It's got the springy tongues on it.
00:06.320: So they don't even have stuff that's that that is that big yet.
00:06.320: It's an interesting.
00:06.320: On Twitter, at Cucahiko.
00:06.400: And you may and I know I've said this, but quite often
00:06.400: And it goes, Oh, okay, whatever.
00:06.400: I think there's some amazing.
00:06.480: So I'm sure some people may not have heard about it, although Sam has talked about it.
00:06.480: And Final Cup Pro at the time was the only thing that this was about a year ago.
00:06.480: Right.
00:06.480: And there was very little
00:06.480: But he's all about, you know, transcode everything even before you bring it in.
00:06.560: These are obviously only for viewing.
00:06.560: And to this date, I've never, ever, ever had a problem.
00:06.560: So it was a little bit wider.
00:06.640: Too bad.
00:06.640: 1 seconds.
00:06.640: Yeah.
00:06.640: And then I rebooted everything and it spun again.
00:06.720: Basically, those are his interests.
00:06.720: I'm not religious at all, and so she's going with her church to like help people out.
00:06.720: Well, I'm a director.
00:06.720: I had created one of those export file things.
00:06.720: I use it for we did a we ended up doing our first animated piece.
00:06.720: You know, I mean,
00:06.720: Right, right.
00:06.720: When you have more metal surface, it's more surface that the heat can dissipate from.
00:06.720: Also have a little Thunderbolt Caddy thing.
00:06.720: com.
00:06.720: And also, next
00:06.800: And when I gave him the script and I gave him the storyboards and I even went so far as to 'cause it was the first project I really, really, really cared about
00:06.800: I'm the kind of stuff that I'm looking for as a director, especially sort of as a casting
00:06.800: And it's, you know, it just seems it was just such a slam dunk to me.
00:06.800: Now you have this empty timeline.
00:06.800: It's not that one.
00:06.880: So okay.
00:06.880: What is your um
00:06.880: Everything else that I was using, it would work half the time.
00:06.880: I think they really were, but there was a whole lot of trust.
00:06.880: Awesome.
00:06.880: Right, right, absolutely.
00:06.960: Nice.
00:06.960: Yeah, I'll tell you, we just had a big conversation in our office yesterday because one of the producers that I work with all the time, he was just booking a flight to Europe.
00:06.960: Nice.
00:06.960: And.
00:06.960: I I think that that I
00:06.960: Right, right.
00:06.960: You know what I mean?
00:06.960: And at one point, he even said, He goes, and I
00:07.040: I don't know if it continues.
00:07.040: Right.
00:07.040: But yeah, this new I don't even know what it is that Sam has, but he can create
00:07.040: Yeah, and then the other one that I'm very interested in I'm just I'm just sharing here is uh
00:07.120: Cool.
00:07.120: I'm the chief operating officer.
00:07.120: Yes, yes.
00:07.120: I mean, it looked fantastic, but there was no story.
00:07.120: I mean, when it comes, there may be some timing issues, but I know what I want.
00:07.120: But my girlfriend also cuts in X.
00:07.120: So a lot of times we're making decisions based on what
00:07.120: And it was not the first time I've seen that.
00:07.120: And then this project that we just that I just got in the can is uh Sony A7S.
00:07.120: And I understand.
00:07.120: So what do you do?
00:07.120: And Tom will be the first one to tell you.
00:07.120: You know, that's super lift.
00:07.120: And like nothing was working.
00:07.120: It's not.
00:07.200: And I like what you're saying about, you know, you created this preset or this setting for the share menu.
00:07.200: And I'm like, all right, so I'll just queue them up.
00:07.200: Oh, cool.
00:07.200: And the majority of the stuff, the vast majority of this, I almost said vajority.
00:07.200: Yeah.
00:07.200: With Thunderbolt or standalone device.
00:07.200: Chad, I should let you go.
00:07.280: That's awesome.
00:07.280: I before I g even get involved with a project, that I know the story and that's my particular
00:07.280: Okay, cool.
00:07.280: And I looked at him and I said, Dude, you're asking the wrong question.
00:07.280: That's true.
00:07.280: So basically, it's a drive caddy that you can put in a drive dock.
00:07.360: And so I'll leave the office, leave my computer on, and then by the next morning or late that night, I'll
00:07.360: And I got to the end of it and I hit Command D and I mean
00:07.360: Or and I've had this discussion with other people about
00:07.360: I just can't afford them.
00:07.360: Right, right.
00:07.360: And you can find it at, of course, Digital Cinema Cafe on the little web space-y thing.
00:07.440: Scratch it there.
00:07.440: Go ahead.
00:07.440: Right.
00:07.440: Well, he, you know, I just don't.
00:07.440: And yeah, I'm giving away the plot of the movie.
00:07.440: And so you know every beat.
00:07.440: And yet
00:07.440: God, this is like the Chris Fenwick Plug Show.
00:07.440: There's there's really no point to it.
00:07.520: And it is a it is a consortium, it is a gathering, it is a a community of filmmakers.
00:07.520: Can you see me there?
00:07.520: Just a.
00:07.520: Yeah, you know, it's really interesting.
00:07.520: You know, yeah, it's kind of loud and annoying, and you're going to wake up all your neighbors, but that's a better rake, isn't it?
00:07.600: Okay.
00:07.600: Oh, yeah.
00:07.600: Maybe I don't used rakes.
00:07.600: Shot on Red did.
00:07.600: Let's go.
00:07.600: But don't cut on them, people.
00:07.680: He should not be impressed.
00:07.680: We've done some sketch for We Make Movies.
00:07.680: So it doesn't speed is more important than anything else.
00:07.680: Do you transcode those or you just leave them alone?
00:07.680: You do have to plug it in separately.
00:07.760: Right.
00:07.760: But the rake is an awesome tool.
00:07.760: And I put it on this little rugged that I just took back because I'll work at the office and I'll work at home.
00:07.840: Call me when you land.
00:07.840: Okay.
00:07.840: I try to explain that to people all the time.
00:07.840: I will check that out.
00:07.920: No, don't don't stress.
00:07.920: But we had no idea what we were doing when we were doing it.
00:07.920: And different people work different ways.
00:07.920: Yeah.
00:07.920: And we had Jason Wingrove.
00:07.920: You know, like the big screen or for no, that's a good question.
00:07.920: I don't believe they are
00:07.920: You know, after the interview, he and I were chatting and he asked me to come and be on their podcast.
00:08.000: And then what's Michelle's part?
00:08.000: Is it worker
00:08.000: Right.
00:08.000: You know, that's hilarious.
00:08.000: Because you have enough experience, you've used you used seven.
00:08.000: And although not bus powered, portable only in that it is small
00:08.080: It doesn't sound like you're talking on that one.
00:08.080: And by the way, it was one of the ones that, I mean, the settings, I maybe.
00:08.080: And the magnetic timeline and everything.
00:08.080: Totally fanatic.
00:08.160: Yeah, that'll be the cold open to the show.
00:08.160: So um anyway, so uh I got your name from Sam and he's like, Yeah, you got to talk to Chad.
00:08.160: Yeah.
00:08.160: And unfortunately, the uh
00:08.160: I mean, you can kind of tell if you're in it, but I don't know what's happening when I'm in other programs.
00:08.160: You know, it'll
00:08.160: Yeah.
00:08.160: Right, exactly.
00:08.160: You know, why wouldn't you know, if
00:08.160: That's what I've been trying to tell you.
00:08.240: What kind of projects are those that you're working on?
00:08.240: You know, you make this tool more accessible so that more people are using it.
00:08.240: Well, you go back to the shed, you grab a rake
00:08.320: Not that much.
00:08.320: It just
00:08.320: But
00:08.320: I think honestly, you know.
00:08.320: But he called me basically he had a timeline.
00:08.320: We makemovies.
00:08.400: You're able to move so fast.
00:08.400: Right, right.
00:08.400: That's true.
00:08.400: It's a different one.
00:08.400: Also, not good for the heat.
00:08.480: Right, right, absolutely.
00:08.480: It drives me nuts, but whatever.
00:08.480: I think I mentioned that in the interview.
00:08.560: And I try to encourage people all the time, you know, use those presets, learn how to use them.
00:08.560: Well, we're recording this on the 7th.
00:08.560: I put it up online.
00:08.560: Thanks again for doing this.
00:08.560: And then Facebook, I think you just find
00:08.640: Now, what do you mean by consistently?
00:08.640: I wish I could just say, take two or four cores and just
00:08.640: Yeah, it's Hawaii.
00:08.720: Yeah.
00:08.720: And I'll um
00:08.720: I should be careful.
00:08.720: Right, right.
00:08.720: Because they had a quick turnaround.
00:08.800: So that's how I first started working with it.
00:08.800: And when I got the project back from him
00:08.880: So I've said it all the time.
00:08.880: You know, for about two years now, I've been hardcore preaching
00:08.880: And right.
00:08.880: So he finished talking.
00:08.880: So I quit my app.
00:08.880: I was like, Ah, no, I don't need it yet.
00:08.960: It's a play on my last name.
00:09.040: My girlfriend, her first project in 10 was the exact same
00:09.040: Bad idea.
00:09.120: You should absolutely not.
00:09.120: Yeah.
00:09.120: I just know.
00:09.120: He's like, I'm not an editor.
00:09.120: He goes, Yeah?
00:09.200: You know?
00:09.200: Everything else, it's just it is it's whatever
00:09.200: But it's interesting because you up is so you don't string together all the auditions.
00:09.280: Is she a a regular guest?
00:09.280: And I think that once you get past that, once you get out of that
00:09.280: But I think once they get used to it, they're, you know, and
00:09.280: Oh, yeah.
00:09.280: Silicon Power.
00:09.280: What is Hawaiian?
00:09.360: Right.
00:09.360: I'm too sleepy to.
00:09.360: We were doing that every Sunday night and then posting it every Monday night.
00:09.360: No.
00:09.360: Anyways, you get it.
00:09.360: And sometimes I actually cast for other people.
00:09.360: org is where you will find us.
00:09.440: And he goes, Yeah, you need to talk to Chad.
00:09.440: And so I don't know, maybe two, three years ago, they decided they wanted to start putting movies
00:09.440: It was H.
00:09.440: So they work on Thunderbolt if you put them in the dock.
00:09.440: So anyway, gear guys.
00:09.520: That's kind of those are her interests, you know?
00:09.520: But I think that's my favorite part.
00:09.600: It's all good.
00:09.600: Yeah, you can just sit right there.
00:09.600: It's like, oh, it's stupid.
00:09.600: Now you can go into the timeline settings, change anything you want.
00:09.680: Yeah.
00:09.680: It's not that I don't like it.
00:09.680: I don't
00:09.680: Yeah.
00:09.760: Sounds good.
00:09.760: So Yeah, we'll call those meetings.
00:09.760: And the fact that so much of it works behind the scenes makes
00:09.760: I'm just the cheapest.
00:09.760: Some of them I just skim through and some of them I honestly don't really see at all.
00:09.760: They didn't none of that.
00:09.760: And that is the downside of it, especially as
00:09.760: They have these Evolution this Evolution series where they have these little
00:09.840: Okay.
00:09.920: two six four, and it was very specific.
00:09.920: I work in InDesign.
00:09.920: And I said, They don't.
00:09.920: All right, that's it.
00:10.000: Yeah.
00:10.000: Why wouldn't I do that?
00:10.000: And it's it's incredible that
00:10.000: Yeah.
00:10.000: Do you know what I'm talking about?
00:10.080: And you know, Shane sent me all this stuff and he's like
00:10.080: And the amount of time between
00:10.080: It just made complete sense.
00:10.080: It does not have a
00:10.080: But I firmly believe that everybody you know, everybody's got a story to tell.
00:10.160: Hence the dude, can we do it later?
00:10.160: That's the correct uh
00:10.160: It was, and so that was, I was blown away.
00:10.160: The other thing I will just say
00:10.160: So I highly recommend that you work in a bus-powered environment when it comes to that.
00:10.160: I'll try and get the info for that and put it in the show notes.
00:10.240: You want to just call me when you get there?
00:10.240: And we do that actually a lot with um with
00:10.240: And they.
00:10.240: My brother cuts in X, and he edits most of our commercial projects.
00:10.240: If you haven't seen it yet, you don't
00:10.240: People will be downloading this on the 8th, but two days ago then
00:10.240: That's funny.
00:10.320: The story is there.
00:10.320: I've actually been invited to
00:10.320: But I love the fact that you
00:10.320: I don't know what I'm doing.
00:10.320: And three, it doesn't have any vents or fans.
00:10.400: Thanks, Chad.
00:10.400: But I think when you're in I do know that when you're in Final Cut itself
00:10.480: That's really the simplicity of it.
00:10.480: Let's say 40 years.
00:10.480: Okay, good.
00:10.480: You also I also have my own personal
00:10.560: I'm trying to work on right now.
00:10.560: That's an interesting comment that you're.
00:10.560: But at any rate, we were
00:10.560: I mean, I have some people that
00:10.560: Right, right.
00:10.560: Okay.
00:10.640: This business is it's very much a communal thing.
00:10.640: Yeah.
00:10.640: I really enjoy.
00:10.640: I most of my traveling I do like in the spring.
00:10.720: But I know that a lot of people
00:10.720: I was like, well, give it.
00:10.720: I'd like to see it too.
00:10.720: And when you start dragging footage in,
00:10.720: And it's a couple of years old now.
00:10.800: But
00:10.800: I love the concept of disruptive
00:10.800: com, which is a totally different organization.
00:10.880: My workflow typically is to export
00:10.880: The but he'd never done scripted before.
00:10.880: So.
00:10.960: And
00:10.960: That's really interesting.
00:10.960: All right.
00:11.040: Bye.
00:11.040: So I travel a lot and I cut a lot on the road.
00:11.120: How can you ignore the story?
00:11.120: But seven,
00:11.120: You're taking a look at it right now?
00:11.120: You don't look all that Hawaiian, are you?
00:11.200: Yeah, that's no problem.
00:11.200: I'm just the cheapest.
00:11.200: Yeah.
00:11.280: She didn't.
00:11.280: I was watching a
00:11.280: And
00:11.440: It was insane.
00:11.520: And I just bang it out.
00:11.520: Oh, okay.
00:11.520: Well.
00:11.600: Okay.
00:11.600: Yes, right.
00:11.600: You know, so I would
00:11.600: you know?
00:11.760: It's an audio podcast.
00:11.840: Absolutely.
00:11.840: I don't even license music.
00:11.920: Yeah, yeah.
00:11.920: I hope she's not going to West Africa.
00:11.920: Yeah, even QuickTime Pro.
00:11.920: It's kind of like.
00:11.920: And he wants all footage at a
00:11.920: Yeah.
00:12.000: It's called the Lesie Little Big Disc.
00:12.080: I'm sorry, what were you saying?
00:12.080: But
00:12.160: But he, um,
00:12.160: And
00:12.240: Cheers.
00:12.240: As a matter of fact, take it one step further.
00:12.400: Right, exactly.
00:12.400: You know what I mean?
00:12.640: And.
00:12.640: And I just, you know.
00:12.960: And
00:12.960: I totally lost track.
00:12.960: Anyway.
00:13.040: Right, right, right.
00:13.040: It's like if you think about it, it's not
00:13.040: Yeah, yeah.
00:13.120: I mean, I was.
00:13.200: Click two pass we be arc ascent.
00:13.280: No problem.
00:13.280: Exactly.
00:13.360: I just want to have them there.
00:13.520: Do you know?
00:13.600: You know, anybody
00:13.760: So
00:14.080: I know.