Episode 44
FCG044 - The Corner of the Ham (feat. Julian Faras)
Brand new editor Julian Faras, shares his views on FCPX and why its a powerful tool for him. Also, why do we cut the corners off the ham.
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00:00.001: And it's just a million iPhones shooting from a million different angles to cut between.
00:00.001: And I was just like, What are you doing over the summer?
00:00.001: USB 3 is awesome, I gotta say.
00:00.001: It has to be the same length and it has to have a lot of different things.
00:00.001: So he just means I think he made it for free, so that way he doesn't have to try and support it.
00:00.001: Because he was going to do it quickly, but it didn't happen quickly.
00:00.001: I've never touched that.
00:00.001: Don't ever use the titler that's built into the video editor.
00:00.001: It's actually faster.
00:00.001: So let me ask you this, when you were doing it, what kind of if you had to gi grade the accuracy of it
00:00.001: That there are multiple little subdivision teams that are working on things and they're just they could share notes a little more.
00:00.080: What the hell is that?
00:00.080: Thicker iMac, not the 2011 one.
00:00.080: band videos, whatever, it's nice to just keep everything in there because when you have to come back to it later on or anything, it's just all there and it's just a nice smooth workflow.
00:00.080: Resolve ten seemed pretty cool.
00:00.080: Fun to delete stuff.
00:00.080: Arctic whiteness is even cooler than before.
00:00.080: See, here's the But it's also time coded.
00:00.080: Final Cut 10 is just to take the selection, keyboard, shortcut, transcribe, and then it makes like a favorite and puts the notes in there.
00:00.080: Come on, let me just hit the letter and have it go to that section of the that's crazy.
00:00.080: The time as everybody else has over these past three years, and it's If you understand Apple and the way that they work, it's gonna be a really good program.
00:00.160: With Julian Ferris.
00:00.160: You're lucky I saw it.
00:00.160: My Facebook is just a Zed zone.
00:00.160: It's a perfect example of the kind of person that I am because I've just always challenged everything that has been told to me.
00:00.160: I would always be like, why am I doing it this way?
00:00.160: And the sales job that I had, I made a lot of money for somebody with no college education, 25 years old, whatever.
00:00.160: Yeah.
00:00.160: Wednesday.
00:00.160: Why don't you do this, this?
00:00.160: uh Pacifica where he lives uh lived lived yeah we're in the process of moving there and he he actually decided to climb the
00:00.160: That's really funny.
00:00.160: the to the third story slice editorial tower here.
00:00.160: Both I did I worked on the personal setup team mostly.
00:00.160: semester finished and I ended up getting a job at an apple the apple store downtown San Francisco.
00:00.160: Got the job there like a week later.
00:00.160: Talked about what you did, I think that that would probably be cool.
00:00.160: some videos off YouTube and put some YouTube videos.
00:00.160: Turns out I really love shooting video too.
00:00.160: And you didn't realize you're running out of light, we're running out of time, the client is yelling at us, security held us up in the lobby for an hour and a half, so we lost 90 minutes of time.
00:00.160: When you're editing somebody else's footage, it's fine.
00:00.160: You know, there's a million things that you're not exposed to when you're just sitting in your nice, comfy chair in the suite, and vice versa.
00:00.160: Yeah.
00:00.160: So we did a whole bunch of crazy different cameras and we're shooting it all with DSLRs and different DSLRs, which makes grading that fun.
00:00.160: There's a piece of software, and believe me, I get nothing from this.
00:00.160: It's not even like that.
00:00.160: Yeah, we can delete this.
00:00.160: but it's like twenty bucks.
00:00.160: So I got to go back and watch that again and he wouldn't call on me to answer questions, so I got to watch everybody else shiver that time.
00:00.160: Although iPhones are just as expensive as cameras now.
00:00.160: That's really interesting.
00:00.160: Yeah, yeah, that's actually really interesting because I've al I've always said that like at 17, 18 years old, you're basically too young to go to college.
00:00.160: I was like, I didn't say that to anybody, but I thought that.
00:00.160: Okay, so I've been reading Reddit a lot lately, and there is an abbreviation on Reddit called TIL.
00:00.160: So, what drives did you get then?
00:00.160: Peripheral well, so many drives that you can get.
00:00.160: Just saw the red screen there, and I don't know.
00:00.160: For about 200 clips.
00:00.160: But I haven't had that issue many times since then.
00:00.160: Paced and the dialogue was just kind of slow, and everything.
00:00.160: We split it in two, and that was bad too.
00:00.160: Yeah, and that's interesting from my perspective because that's what I came into.
00:00.160: are just over a a solid background or a photographic background or a shot of the set blurry out of focus, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:00.160: But why can't Fi Mokai have?
00:00.160: Things and the way that they focus on the attention to detail with everything is incredible.
00:00.160: Finishing mode of everything I'm working on right now because I'm moving out of my house and I'm going on a road trip across the country for like two weeks, and so I have to finish everything right now.
00:00.160: St.
00:00.160: On Route 66.
00:00.160: It's I mean we've left a lot of time in the trip to just kind of have some fun, so it'll be a bit more.
00:00.160: If Steve Jobs was to go into that room and see anything like that, like he ever really cared about Final Cut, I don't know.
00:00.160: And it's on my Vimeo, it's just this little 30-second motion graphic thing.
00:00.160: I'd like to get into Resolve 11 when that comes out because that seems like it's a really cool finishing tool for grading and everything with all the new editing stuff in there.
00:00.160: I keep everything in the Final Cut libraries because they're small, self-contained little projects, and then we put them on another drive and archive them.
00:00.160: The situation that I have right now with what I'm doing, I'm the only editor, I'm the only one that's ever touching the footage.
00:00.160: And again, the render files are things that can be easily regenerated, although it might take time when you open up that project.
00:00.160: The optimized media, as long as the original media is still nearby, does not need to be archived because it's just a duplicate of something that's already there.
00:00.160: So I started off with Thor.
00:00.160: they ramble a little bit of maybe a few two ums and ahs like I do at in every one of these stupid shows.
00:00.160: You know, apple that falls under my category of the timeline kung fu.
00:00.160: 70, 80, 90 in that range will vary.
00:00.160: I feel like Final Cut is kind of a combination between a spreadsheet and a presentation.
00:00.160: That just acts a little bit more like a spreadsheet.
00:00.160: I do a ton of multi-cam stuff, and I label all the cameras, I put all the names in there, and then when I'm in the timeline index, just trying to like select some clips for some reason, it doesn't give you all of that information.
00:00.160: In the main one where it has the roles, it's video-audio.
00:00.160: That's just disappointing because Apple is known for their attention to details.
00:00.160: You know, in Final Cut 7, there was a very elaborate window on importing media where you could import and assign metadata at the same time.
00:00.160: but you could customize the name and it was it was pretty cool.
00:00.160: It's really good right now, but just think about what the future of it's going to be because this is the well.
00:00.160: Are going to evolve because it is the thing that I really love about it, and there's all of these other issues with it that are so minor, and it's any software has it, but it's just an incredibly creative tool.
00:00.160: I don't know if it was there or somewhere, but it's basically an editing operating system.
00:00.160: I've never used OMF, so I don't know what the big deal is.
00:00.160: To get in touch with Julian Ferris?
00:00.160: Yeah, go to vimeo.
00:00.160: Be awesome if I could.
00:00.160: uh Friday morning.
00:00.160: Thanks again, Julian, for coming over.
00:00.160: one of my clients, a guy I've worked for for many, many years, and I just kind of closed up that deal um deal.
00:00.240: But he got lucky and he's actually a local guy and he contacted me and he says, Hey, yeah, you know, can I uh you know, we we we set up the interview and he goes, Yeah, I if you don't mind, I wouldn't mind just coming to the coming to the office and I was like, Okay, yeah, sure, come on by.
00:00.240: But I have two of them that might go out.
00:00.240: I ask you, this is an unapologetic ad.
00:00.240: Up with Julian Ferris in the third story tower at Slace Editorial.
00:00.240: Turned on, believe it or not.
00:00.240: Final cut 10.
00:00.240: Chris Fenwick's in the world, and I don't want them to have Chris Fen slash Chris Fenwick.
00:00.240: It's, I started early, I stopped, I started, I stopped, I started.
00:00.240: Put thought into why they do something.
00:00.240: But that's kind of the way they did it the first time.
00:00.240: I'm thinking about like how many characters are in a file name and will it make sense when I'm looking at it in a time line with very short clips?
00:00.240: The actual television studio stuff where you actually get to go and do a live show every week.
00:00.240: Created an independent study for editing.
00:00.240: I decided to do video production in 2008 when I was quitting my other job.
00:00.240: Let's go.
00:00.240: I've actually had things to show for what I put my work into, other than just money going into a bank account and starting over every single month at zero.
00:00.240: For a month, and you're just looking at these dollar numbers, and then the first of the month rolls around and it's zero again.
00:00.240: decided, okay, gonna go back.
00:00.240: That is different, and that I've been kind of bummed out.
00:00.240: Editing at the recording studio in Santa Cruz, or I'm at home editing.
00:00.240: Clearly, some people can just go into a dark room and close the door and never come out until a masterpiece is done.
00:00.240: And we are meant to be together and we we feed off each other.
00:00.240: I don't care.
00:00.240: Teachers.
00:00.240: I did no shooting.
00:00.240: Can you like audit classes like that?
00:00.240: Yeah, that's funny.
00:00.240: Mid-year.
00:00.240: As if I was going to teach a class.
00:00.240: We titled it Aesthetics and the Art of Editing.
00:00.240: The aesthetics of editing and the art of editing and everything.
00:00.240: Even the ones that I know that I've worked with for twenty years, every shooter, at least once a year, maybe twice a year, should have to cut something they shoot.
00:00.240: And then you're editing your own footage, and you're like, ah, it gets really depressing.
00:00.240: And so there were times.
00:00.240: Came up with the concept and everything, and that was.
00:00.240: And you can get into the photo library and you can see, oh, that's an MOV.
00:00.240: off of an iPhone.
00:00.240: It's it's yeah exactly and that's once again called I think I know what that is yeah everybody should something like that
00:00.240: Yeah, I've always said that would be fun though.
00:00.240: Help you.
00:00.240: a couple of good cameras in there to cut back to, it would be fun.
00:00.240: And then decide, now I really want to go back and I'll be a lot more serious about what I'm doing.
00:00.240: Equipment that costs sixty thousand dollars when you have to go and give a presentation in front of a class?
00:00.240: And some lenses and all that because I didn't want to have to just check things out.
00:00.240: And he said, Yeah, I did it because you said to do it.
00:00.240: was looking for something to do.
00:00.240: And so we had a meeting.
00:00.240: parents and they were like, you know what, just get your act together and you can live here.
00:00.240: The 10.
00:00.240: I I think it yeah, it was 2012.
00:00.240: That and putting more RAM in a computer are probably the two nicest things you can do to it.
00:00.240: One of the things that I found was at that time there weren't a lot of Thunderbolt options and it was really expensive.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: But you're certainly getting the maximum speed.
00:00.240: Average.
00:00.240: Together and then fine-tuned it.
00:00.240: So it I tried to relink it.
00:00.240: the Seagate Barracuda docking station thing.
00:00.240: Backups set up in each location.
00:00.240: And this is what's stupid about Final Cut sometimes is it's like that's not the same media because it was a synchronized clip and maybe that had issues with it or something and it's like
00:00.240: Because if you did that, when you moved a project from Drive to Drive, you would never have to relink again because the media is in the same relative position to the library file that you double-clicked on to launch and blah, blah, blah.
00:00.240: But it ended up being about twenty-two minutes long.
00:00.240: is very much a premier town.
00:00.240: Seriously, all you gotta do is look at the last forty three episodes of this show and look at the the breadth and depth of the type of people that are using this, you know, uh happily.
00:00.240: Although over the past few months people have been talking nicer about Final Cut 10.
00:00.240: we were putting we have this award show at the end of the year where everybody's work is on there.
00:00.240: To put that in there, there's no magnetic timeline.
00:00.240: And it's really not that big of a deal that Final Cut X does if you understood that.
00:00.240: It needs a little bit more attention, but once you kind of understand that and you come up with your workflow, and when you're I wish that you could lock the timeline.
00:00.240: That's something that has really started to bother me.
00:00.240: All text that goes in anything I cut.
00:00.240: I do those in keynote.
00:00.240: In keynote, what you do, and there's a whole tutorial, there's a tutorial on my website called Fast Bullet Points.
00:00.240: it will ripple all of the slides after slide one, and it will change all of their names.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: We're going to go visit my aunt and uncle in like Glendale, Arizona.
00:00.240: Several years ago, and I did I spent four weeks going from Chicago to Santa Monica.
00:00.240: But that that's just something that I feel like in terms of just getting t to the finishing touches when you're doing things in Final Cut.
00:00.240: Morning, but I gotta go out and do some more things.
00:00.240: Huh, yeah, I don't know.
00:00.240: Send to Final Cut and then back to Resolve for the end.
00:00.240: It is imperative, however, that you have a unified folder structure and that you use that folder structure for every single job that you do, so things are the same.
00:00.240: I don't like the idea of importing stuff into the library.
00:00.240: Media from it through his laptop and storing it on my RAID, which was attached to my iMac, in my media folder, not in my library.
00:00.240: stuff on there too.
00:00.240: Library Manager.
00:00.240: Thor.
00:00.240: Every drive that we have is numbered.
00:00.240: Close to what I'm dealing with.
00:00.240: I said, as long as you understand where your connection points are, this is something I've been dealing with a lot lately, where I'm taking, so a lot of times I will take a sound bite.
00:00.240: And then I start massaging it and I pull out the things, I pull out the bad bits.
00:00.240: Off of a shot into the discussion of the horse.
00:00.240: Horse shot probably overlaps the previous sound byte.
00:00.240: Dictate and transcribe the oh, let's talk about that for a second.
00:00.240: And on my phone.
00:00.240: When I'm done, everything's transcribed, and then I click done, and then I go to my computer, and it's on my notes.
00:00.240: stuff in there that's just totally off.
00:00.240: Packet that you can download that's like a gigabyte or two of just all of that.
00:00.240: While I'm talking, I've I'll get a good one.
00:00.240: Yes, it is.
00:00.240: And made them into an Apple company.
00:00.240: You know, 6 D, it goes to EOS HD again.
00:00.240: When they finally added multicam, it was much better than multi-camp amazing.
00:00.240: Uh I know people that are hiring Final Cat 10 editors.
00:00.240: It's the iOS.
00:00.240: importing the XML from Final Cut to Logic, that's a disaster.
00:00.240: So that was Julian.
00:00.320: And so he came by and we had a great talk.
00:00.320: He's brand new to the business.
00:00.320: So I thought, hmm, that's really interesting.
00:00.320: Not only that, I was a little confused in the beginning here because I thought that he was fresh out of college.
00:00.320: Most people.
00:00.320: and we're digging the fact that they're behind the show and supporting us.
00:00.320: And we hold on to them because we don't know any better.
00:00.320: How do you how do you do the Christmas ham?
00:00.320: And we put the thing in the pan and we cut the corners off?
00:00.320: So anyway, you cock contacted me through that.
00:00.320: Well, yeah, I'm fresh out of college, but I'm 31.
00:00.320: premier broadcasting department.
00:00.320: Those ones you don't get to as quickly.
00:00.320: The Becca department's really interesting.
00:00.320: In that time, San Francisco State had money issues, and so I couldn't go as soon as I wanted, couldn't get in that semester.
00:00.320: You know, put together in the Bay Area, at least, and I'm sure it's the same around the country.
00:00.320: And really, we're better when we're together.
00:00.320: You know, anytime I see ads, it's like the only time they mention Final Cut 10 is they're like, not Final Cut 10.
00:00.320: Everybody wanted Final Cut 8, so they moved to Premiere, and now they have Final Cut 8.
00:00.320: But um, you know, you go to LA and New York and it's going to be primarily avid, you know.
00:00.320: To media aesthetics.
00:00.320: Yeah, if you want to do that, I'll talk to them.
00:00.320: The book, if you really want to look into it, it was written by Herbert Zettel, who actually got there before.
00:00.320: Okay.
00:00.320: you can actually you got to turn on the flash crap on your computer, but you can actually leave an audio message up to 90 seconds until I pay more.
00:00.320: But you're please go do that.
00:00.320: You could use it on there.
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: I had my main camera, that was the one that I was using, and then we had two other additional cameras to do some other shots there.
00:00.320: the beach, the show, and then did they do it was it a live performance or did they lip sync it or was there an audience?
00:00.320: we went out there and we played along to that.
00:00.320: have like a dozen or twenty or however many people shoot the stage with their iPhone for the performance and you could do the fast music thing trick again.
00:00.320: And because the iPhone's going to shoot 30, so now you dumb that down to 24.
00:00.320: Yeah, but it's kind of cool because everybody can shoot it and then it gets uploaded to this website and then anybody could watch it in their browser and then multi-cam edit
00:00.320: Going back to school and doing this has been one of the easiest things that I've done.
00:00.320: And it was you couldn't do that.
00:00.320: And I really enjoy your shows.
00:00.320: Saying, just get out there and make something over and over again on Carl Olson's Digital Convergence podcast.
00:00.320: Three years later, I just released a feature documentary called Found in the Forest.
00:00.320: fear that people have, like even the fear that you mentioned about your music video, like I'm kind of afraid to start cutting it 'cause I don't want to find out how badly I screwed it up.
00:00.320: Yeah, you know, there's a lot to be said for that.
00:00.320: Like I said, I dropped out of school.
00:00.320: Influence or any opinion about that?
00:00.320: Things I learned today.
00:00.320: It was horrible.
00:00.320: Properly.
00:00.320: SSD Thunderbolt.
00:00.320: those Seagate Thunderbolt docking stations.
00:00.320: And so, whoa, there goes your mic.
00:00.320: is I went oh yeah, that's way faster.
00:00.320: And so it's just a matter of what we're doing.
00:00.320: Everybody has a story about this is the file link and it just won't link.
00:00.320: Um so how did the movie go?
00:00.320: So, yeah, you know what?
00:00.320: And we are getting a lot of work done, and we're doing it extremely efficiently.
00:00.320: perspective of I've never edited in anything else.
00:00.320: which is essentially the same as what the magnetic time line does, ripple cut and ripple paste
00:00.320: cognizant of the where your connection points are from your secondary storyline.
00:00.320: Very few things.
00:00.320: If you're going to do this, and I won't go into it now, at some point I need to make a video about this just a bitch to Apple, but do not use the latest keynote
00:00.320: Use one later, the 2009 whatever, because it has a better naming convention that doesn't
00:00.320: You know, what is it, Ohio, uh Indiana, whatever, 'cause you're going to New York, right?
00:00.320: Full setup of the Edelcrone slider.
00:00.320: All the time.
00:00.320: You know, they're, you know, let's just say these guys and these guys are looking over each other's shoulders or something.
00:00.320: of course, and then he would make a um he would string that stuff out, make me XML's
00:00.320: I think that what's m and I've talked about this, I think the thing that's more interesting is what the apparent crossover that there appears to be between Final Cut 10 and Resolve.
00:00.320: is based on another piece of media that it should have access to, but it shows you your optimized media, and it also shows you all of your rendered files.
00:00.320: It's really, really cool.
00:00.320: Very cool.
00:00.320: And I just attached 10.
00:00.320: I will quit this software.
00:00.320: Okay, so the B role will be connected and probably storylined, you know, Command G.
00:00.320: Horse, whatever.
00:00.320: In that secondary storyline, will be connected clip to the last one second of the previous soundbite.
00:00.320: This is a free one.
00:00.320: And it doesn't have to be the first frame of the secondary storyline.
00:00.320: Soundbite.
00:00.320: And you were sitting there and you said, Hey, Apple, how come you can't use Siri in Final Cut Pro?
00:00.320: Yeah, you explain it.
00:00.320: And it should just do that.
00:00.320: Approximately what were you getting?
00:00.320: I should say the last time I played with it.
00:00.320: almost dynamically, I can't remember what I called it, in terms of linking your After Effects renders to Final Cut, which is very cool.
00:00.320: Oh, I was accidentally in the transitions browser, not the effects browser.
00:00.320: And then I have to type it again.
00:00.320: Do any metadata entering while it's importing, which is a big thing that's being sold on it.
00:00.320: Throw stuff at it and just get really crazy and just get really creative.
00:00.320: Tracking.
00:00.320: It's a solid phone, it's a solid operating system, and it's really good.
00:00.320: Levels or different, you know, levels of experience.
00:00.400: Um, yeah, digging it and you know, I was I've been like going through the website and like thinking about all the different things I want to talk about and uh so much stuff.
00:00.400: At NEB, this guy was telling a story about how his wife was teaching his daughter, or somebody, I can't remember who it was.
00:00.400: Before this, before I decided to go back to school, I worked as a sales executive selling automated CD and DVD duplication machines.
00:00.400: Who's just amazing, Professor Connie?
00:00.400: We had a performance shot at the Boom Boom Room in San Francisco.
00:00.400: Far out there in terms of comprehension when you're trying to just understand the terms and what people are talking about.
00:00.400: going and getting a job, maybe selling C D duplicators, finding how much you hate having that job for a living.
00:00.400: At school, I never learned about any software, any hardware, no nothing.
00:00.400: cost of, you know, a five-year-old Toyota at the time.
00:00.400: Just do it.
00:00.400: Producers set, but I was the one there that was the post-production person.
00:00.400: Offline or something.
00:00.400: Project just lost connection with it somehow.
00:00.400: And being today is April, May.
00:00.400: happily, except for episode whatever it was where Steve Miller came and talked about Premiere.
00:00.400: Where it will cut it out of the timeline and ripple it shut, and then you can arrow over blink, blink, blink, blink as the proper, you know, appropriate number of clips, and then you can do a ripple paste.
00:00.400: To give us the magnetic timeline.
00:00.400: You know, things that were just like a string out of clips, and we were trying to fashion a story together, you know, a narrative.
00:00.400: Make a little lower third on there and do that.
00:00.400: I will say though that I think that 90% of the time it actually doesn't need a whole lot of attention.
00:00.400: Like, in terms of a lot of things, like putting text on there, on the screen, and wanting to have grid lines come up so that you could just align multiple titles there.
00:00.400: And now with the with the Arctic Whiteness library manager, I've been using that.
00:00.400: Uh yeah, don't don't look at this.
00:00.400: Um but it will be self-contained for that thought of the larger piece.
00:00.400: In the interview section, I might compound clip those, Command G those, or yes, compound clip.
00:00.400: So, if you then pick up the horse interview, which is a compound clip called horse, and I move it in my timeline, the B-roll
00:00.400: It's really cool because you can manage where you want that connection point to be.
00:00.400: And I'll just have the phone dictate.
00:00.400: screen, I click on the effects and my find request is not persistent.
00:00.400: Software, it is not, it is persistent.
00:00.480: Hard pan, you talk about on there.
00:00.480: Well, do you do it this way every time?
00:00.480: But anyway, yeah, I think it's interesting when you talk, especially with this whole Final Cut 10 world, where you talk about how, you know.
00:00.480: The cinema department is the one that's really theoretical and it's really impacted right now.
00:00.480: Making your own editing focus thing.
00:00.480: Get out.
00:00.480: You had to make a syllabus.
00:00.480: Everything that you can imagine screwing up has been screwed up tenfold worse by somebody else at least once.
00:00.480: Everything.
00:00.480: Move some stuff around, and you'd have to select everything and push it over, and then bring the other stuff in.
00:00.480: Is reverse the priority of ripple copy or excuse me, ripple cut is now just cut.
00:00.480: Make a separate image for each stage of the build.
00:00.480: Louis.
00:00.480: Save the XML on my hard drive attached to my iMac, and then he would look across the room and go, Hey, you got a new XML.
00:00.480: Media is in your library that is optimized, which by definition is a
00:00.480: Now it'll show you any drive that it's ever scanned before.
00:00.480: Yes, it does.
00:00.480: Is that it?
00:00.480: When I'm importing now and I select all of the clips and I go to change the camera name, as soon as that one clip is imported, instead of being
00:00.480: That it's very possible that that was like one of those things.
00:00.480: Because you are the next wave of people that will put me out of business.
00:00.480: with the FX plug three.
00:00.480: And uh later this week on Friday's episode, I have a very interesting interview.
00:00.560: I did did you even realize Premium Beat has sound effects?
00:00.560: Would not have gotten done as soon as you did.
00:00.560: Hyperanalyze every step of the procedure to the point where I'm
00:00.560: Hundreds of times.
00:00.560: You've got the live performance that's going out and shooting, and then you've got editing, which is recording and mixing.
00:00.560: We always talk about how energizing it is when you're around other editors and you can bounce ideas and share ideas and say, Hey, I'm stuck on this.
00:00.560: You started school in you said the spring of eleven.
00:00.560: Where you can ask a question.
00:00.560: So I just put it in there, put some rubber bands in there.
00:00.560: That doesn't the current naming convention is very, very dangerous.
00:00.560: Guidelines and the guide assist in Keynote is world class.
00:00.560: And then you have a much smaller job folder that you can archive or put away or just throw stuff out because you don't need access to those render files.
00:00.560: Final Cut 10, I think, is hitting this market.
00:00.560: Oh, this is good radio.
00:00.560: Or two or three, and I am crafting a story.
00:00.560: If you had the opportunity to sneak in at Apple, what would the feature be?
00:00.560: Oh, here's.
00:00.560: While it was open and everything like that.
00:00.560: Um yes, so the i the iPhone of editors is what uh uh this episode will be released on Monday the the eighth or ninth or fifth, I don't know, whatever it is.
00:00.640: And great-grandmother said, You know, they went to great grandmother, you know, when remember when you taught me how to cook, yeah, and you and we put the thing in the ham in the pan and we cut the corners off?
00:00.640: Oh, we had a really small oven.
00:00.640: It's interesting because there's two departments there.
00:00.640: And every editor should have to shoot something like again once or twice a year.
00:00.640: It turned out pretty good, but it was one of those things where it was.
00:00.640: Linking versus absolute linking in terms of the directory path structure.
00:00.640: there are keyboard shortcuts to select a passage of stuff, and you can hit a ripple delete or see a ripple cut.
00:00.640: But anyway, yeah, I do stuff like that in keynote.
00:00.640: You open up the FX browser, you click in the little find tool, and you type the word game.
00:00.720: We added a new feature to the Digital Cinema Cafe website.
00:00.720: If you can do that and you have an old iMac that's not with an SSD, that's the best thing you can do for it.
00:00.720: And Ripple Paste is now just paste, you know?
00:00.720: And now that B-roll is connected to that soundbite, and it has a little extra one-second overhang
00:00.800: How d how slash why slash you know who pushed you, whatever.
00:00.800: I haven't even said it out loud in a long time.
00:00.800: So light, shadows, several thirds, magnetism of frame, all that, all that stuff.
00:00.800: So, I mean, coming from nothing, I never even thought about editing before.
00:00.800: And then that's when I started really getting into editing more and doing more stuff with it.
00:00.800: So here's the drill.
00:00.800: It's a very ingenious little bit of kit, but it it doesn't work all the time either.
00:00.800: Yesterday, and it's most of the time, none of these are issues.
00:00.800: If you want to deal with bullet points, learn how to do it in Keynote.
00:00.800: Yeah, I don't know that it's overkill.
00:00.800: Oh, five or six hundred gigs of stuff the other day.
00:00.800: That will cover the last second of whatever you put in front of it.
00:00.800: There's a brand new feature in Photoshop Creative Cloud called Generate Asset.
00:00.800: And you like one thing I do all the time is I use the gain plug-in and I use the limiter plug-in.
00:00.800: iPhone of Editors was Friday's episode, which has not been released yet.
00:00.800: Interestingly enough, another Aussie.
00:00.880: You know, I don't mean it to sound like this, but I'll say, you know, it doesn't know any better.
00:00.880: I used to be in a band, and I loved that more than anything else.
00:00.880: We got a band.
00:00.880: Well, I'd love to have this, but this is what I have.
00:00.880: However, most people don't know it does that.
00:00.880: There's so much stuff you can do with that, and just to have that all inside there.
00:00.960: I haven't noticed that.
00:00.960: Yeah, and then so the second semester in the fall, I didn't do much editing then either.
00:00.960: And then they play it to that.
00:00.960: I still just had my internal drive in my iMac.
00:00.960: Yeah.
00:00.960: And so drive envy.
00:00.960: It's 32-bit.
00:00.960: And I can remember it many times.
00:00.960: You don't care.
00:01.040: Maybe earlier.
00:01.040: San Francisco State.
00:01.040: I looked at the feature set and I said, yeah, no, this works better for us.
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00:01.040: That's I love deleting stuff.
00:01.040: We're doing tests right now.
00:01.120: And so psych got away with that one.
00:01.120: So Monday's episode with Steve Navrat.
00:01.120: If you guys have your volume down, you can turn your volume up and you can now listen to the rest of the show.
00:01.120: I don't know how to pronounce your last name, Craig, but we'll call we'll call you Craig.
00:01.120: There is a utility that is more forgiving than the application itself.
00:01.120: Oh, cool.
00:01.120: Analyze giant air quotes here.
00:01.120: That's because Logic was a a very popular music software that was written in Germany, and Apple bought them Lockstock and two smoking barrels and
00:01.200: Welcome to another episode of the Final Cut Grill.
00:01.200: Does anybody question to the audience?
00:01.200: Basically, theory stuff.
00:01.200: That icon looks like that?
00:01.200: I don't know why it has to be so literal and precise.
00:01.200: And I don't understand why it's not like that in Final Cut.
00:01.200: And they went crazy last month, too.
00:01.200: So type anything in your notes on your phone, and it just automatically goes to the notes on your computer.
00:01.200: com forward slash Julian Ferris, F-A-R-A-S.
00:01.200: So nobody's heard this one yet either.
00:01.280: So there's so much.
00:01.280: And I've always thought that would be a fun gimmick to do, especially if you have a bunch of people and you actually put some up on stage.
00:01.280: I'm assuming you cut it in Final Cut 10 because you said that's all you've ever cut.
00:01.280: There are compelling reasons to keep your media in the library.
00:01.360: Basically, you don't even have to know people, but if you're at an event and some of the things that you're doing.
00:01.360: Yeah.
00:01.360: Oh, that's very cool.
00:01.360: No.
00:01.360: you have access to everything that I have access to.
00:01.360: It was great that he uh decided he wanted to come over and uh hang out at the Slice Editorial Tower and uh you know have that little chat.
00:01.440: And you'll hear all about that.
00:01.440: I heard about it after that I sent that message.
00:01.440: Oh, yeah, good, good idea.
00:01.440: George Mangan was my amazing teacher.
00:01.440: I did no editing.
00:01.440: Did you like completely take get so much more out of it?
00:01.440: So did did Connie give you any grief for wanting to use Final Cut 10?
00:01.440: He's like, I think we're going to do a short film.
00:01.440: 6 update.
00:01.440: Well, let's say there are people that are doing animated titles in motion and bringing them over, and they just wanted to do something.
00:01.440: It probably could.
00:01.440: I was like, Okay, that's getting there.
00:01.440: And I'll give you one example is the thing that I did with Steven Luxic in Hawaii, where we were both sharing one hard drive.
00:01.440: So, yeah, I mean, that's the thing, and that's where I think a lot of people.
00:01.440: I mean, this is a stupid thing.
00:01.520: Now, um, Julian is an interesting guy.
00:01.520: Now, so Julian is with me.
00:01.520: The post is all about making decisions.
00:01.520: Yeah.
00:01.520: And you when you attach a phone to it, as long as the person enters in their gink, gink, gink code, you have access to the whole file structure.
00:01.520: I would meet with him once a week, and I also asked him if I could go in and sit in the media aesthetics class again and just watch it.
00:01.520: Some things get made using a motion tablet.
00:01.520: So, this was at work.
00:01.600: I didn't want to waste my summer like everybody else and I wanted to actually shoot something and just randomly ran into somebody in just the hallway at school.
00:01.600: It was a horrible experience editing it because it was the first time that I'd ever really edited anything.
00:01.600: And it which I think you can get that off of a USB 3 drive.
00:01.600: Yeah, we want to do that.
00:01.680: I don't even check it anymore.
00:01.680: And so many people in this industry came from a musical background, being in a band, and it's so common.
00:01.680: And the the main thing is video production is really close to being in a band.
00:01.680: Right.
00:01.680: Yeah, that's crazy town.
00:01.760: Editing editing platforms, I believe, are regional.
00:01.760: They're like, oh, Final Cut 10 came out.
00:01.760: A couple other camera people showed up for that.
00:01.760: And then, all of a sudden, I don't know what it was, and it was definitely probably my mistake, but all of a sudden, all of my media was just gone.
00:01.760: I also want to say that if you haven't, please definitely go check out Premium Beat.
00:01.840: It's just, I'm just going to do it because that's just how somebody told me, and somebody told me.
00:01.840: So, if you want to ask a question about or make a statement or whatever, or say I'm crazy for using Final Cut 10, I won't play those on the air.
00:01.840: Yeah.
00:01.840: Why thank you?
00:01.840: Yeah.
00:01.840: So it works really well, and it's you know fast enough.
00:01.840: You could do 66.
00:01.840: So I don't know.
00:01.840: And when you open it, it sniffs all your drives, kind of like the old Final Cut did.
00:01.840: The now very much managed horse soundbite because I took all the ums and ads and blah blah blah out
00:01.840: It's this operating system.
00:01.920: Well, leave us your name and number, and we'll give you a call.
00:01.920: No, I don't delete anything.
00:01.920: Oh, you've got to sound like a house.
00:01.920: Yeah.
00:01.920: I did not even realize that I bought that when it was still in beta.
00:01.920: I noticed that and I didn't realize, oh, I guess that drive's not attached.
00:01.920: Learn in instances like that, and this should be a visual thing, and I'll do this.
00:01.920: No, like whatever, like camera angle, camera name, anything like that.
00:02.000: So another quick question.
00:02.000: It was.
00:02.000: It should.
00:02.000: And does it does it keep track of every library that's on it?
00:02.080: Why am I doing it this way?
00:02.080: I haven't spent much time looking.
00:02.080: And the teacher, Professor Connie, I'll mention him a million times, is an amazing teacher.
00:02.080: Okay, so I'm going to offer up a free idea here.
00:02.080: Just showing up is half the battle.
00:02.080: And then I posted it on Reddit and I was like, Hey, tell me how much this sucks and what's wrong with it, and everything.
00:02.080: Yeah.
00:02.080: 50%, 80%, 90% accuracy.
00:02.080: Premiere, again, to be fair to our friends at Adobe, Premiere does have a feature where you can take a bit and you actually have to run it through the media encoder or something, and it will
00:02.080: I'm still waiting to see more stuff come out with that, but I feel like this is where a lot of things are gonna happen.
00:02.160: Yeah, I mean, it makes sense.
00:02.160: I'd be interested in seeing some of that.
00:02.160: Interesting.
00:02.160: And one of the things that we've done too in the past is you shoot it at thirty frames per second and then you slow it down to twenty four.
00:02.160: And so I've got peop friends that are editing with Firewire on other things, and I've never even experienced that.
00:02.160: Yeah, I just, I'm sorry, I totally walked away from the mic.
00:02.160: Yeah.
00:02.160: Have you seen?
00:02.240: You get a bunch of you go to an event, a live concert, and you tell people, get your iPhones out.
00:02.240: Like it didn't get deleted.
00:02.240: I don't even care because the bottom line is, I have this tool that's very powerful, works very well.
00:02.240: People go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, how'd you do that?
00:02.240: And then here's here's the interesting bit.
00:02.240: Well, here's a thing that I would want to change, and this just happened yesterday.
00:02.320: And they go, Well, you put the ham in the pot, and then you cut all the corners off, and then you and they go, Well, why do we cut the corners off?
00:02.320: Started there in spring of 2011.
00:02.320: No, no, no, I'm actually just I want to hear what he has to say.
00:02.320: It was just ridiculous.
00:02.320: My in my college experience, I had the enormous benefit of the fact, my I should say, my second college experience that I also dropped out of, I had the enormous benefit of living with my
00:02.320: That would be nice.
00:02.320: Just go to my Vimeo page.
00:02.320: That's it for this episode.
00:02.400: We talk so much about the transition and moving from what from seven to ten or whatever to ten.
00:02.400: Oh, there we go.
00:02.400: Yeah.
00:02.400: And now you are I don't want to sound ageist or anything, but you're relatively fresh out of college, correct?
00:02.400: I do it this way because I because I always have, and they haven't really thought about it.
00:02.400: No, this is the way I chose to do it today.
00:02.400: And that's why I've actually came here to do this in person because editing, you're just by yourself all the time.
00:02.400: I mean, that's the first semester through that, it's all beyond anybody's comprehension.
00:02.400: I avoided editing that for a while because I was like, I don't want to see how badly I screwed this up, and I didn't screw it up too badly.
00:02.400: Yeah, but everybody has their own.
00:02.400: So, being in school, I didn't have a lot of money, and so I looked around at some of the best options.
00:02.400: So it could have been more time.
00:02.400: You just need to string pictures together and put some audio underneath it.
00:02.480: I mean like really really new and he's he's only ever used Final Cut 10
00:02.480: That was the only way we could get it in to fit.
00:02.480: No, actually, I think I don't know.
00:02.480: Broadcast and electronic communications arts.
00:02.480: That'll be interesting to see if people do that.
00:02.480: Or did they just not care?
00:02.480: I don't understand what the logic is, what Apple's logic is for the um we'll call it the Nazi tactics in terms of the relinking.
00:02.480: If it's static, it gets made in Photoshop.
00:02.480: I would like to do everything there just 'cause for the small projects that I do, the two to three minute corporate type stuff
00:02.480: I named uh this is a fun thing we can talk about too is what everybody names their drives.
00:02.480: And you're an audio guy.
00:02.560: It would go together so perfectly because, as a new shooter, I was really crappy at it.
00:02.560: Swear at it all day long, all you want, and it it lets it out, whatever.
00:02.560: It sounds like nobody wants to actually do the work.
00:02.560: Is there you know, I'm a perfectionist and I want to get things as perfect as possible, and it's really not there in Final Cut 10.
00:02.560: Bring my camera and do some stuff.
00:02.560: Did you see that at NAB?
00:02.560: I just know that I don't really have time to learn Resolve.
00:02.560: It should just be a button when you're importing.
00:02.560: And that's okay that it does that, but in other parts of the
00:02.560: So I was like, cool, I've got one SD card and then I've got another one through USB Hub and everything like that.
00:02.640: I have some friends that have gone into there and they haven't really done a lot of production work.
00:02.640: You know, and it's so great to get that instant feedback from somebody.
00:02.640: You couldn't really use it.
00:02.640: Like many, many multi-cams and very, very low budget.
00:02.640: And then, how did that go?
00:02.640: And I was like, all I got to do to do this is I just have to show up every time.
00:02.640: If you go to fcp.
00:02.640: Just, you know, first attempt at ever doing anything like that.
00:02.640: But even if I wanted to line that up, there's not a nice way to line these things up.
00:02.640: That's the funnest.
00:02.640: I didn't have iCloud set up there.
00:02.720: And gave me some projects.
00:02.720: The reason I'm reaching out is a couple of years ago I relented after hearing Chris.
00:02.720: Just do it.
00:02.720: And I was like, Cool.
00:02.720: Well, I will say that when the relink does work, it works pretty good.
00:02.720: And I've I've you know what would be really interesting is to make Julian Ferris cut a piece in Final Cut seven and then come back and then cut a piece of it.
00:02.720: Or even, not even those.
00:02.720: It's just one of those little things.
00:02.720: Yeah, yeah, yeah, cute.
00:02.720: We have 129 three terabyte drives in the other room.
00:02.720: When you go to add one, it's audio-video.
00:02.800: I'm starting to look at it thinking, I might want to make these a little better.
00:02.800: So any time somebody buy a new device, I'd help them set it up.
00:02.800: So what did they teach?
00:02.800: Was it like a single camera narrative or multicam?
00:02.800: None of us are good at math.
00:02.800: Okay.
00:02.800: I really have no idea, because I didn't know anything about it.
00:02.800: It's exciting.
00:02.800: And it really depends on how detailed you want the transcription to be.
00:02.800: It gave you no capability to edit that text or even to put in some extra character turn so you could break it into paragraphs or whatnot.
00:02.880: I also want to say thank you once again to the good people at Premium Beat.
00:02.880: I don't know.
00:02.880: Yeah, I wanted to see in person that there were actually people editing with Final Cut 10 in the Bay Area 'cause you wouldn't you wouldn't know it.
00:02.880: Yes.
00:02.880: So, um, like three hours did relink not exist then.
00:02.880: There's no way.
00:02.880: Because seven did it.
00:02.880: It's just when you're doing that, I'm not quite I haven't really looked into the uh media management too much, just 'cause I haven't had time to do that either.
00:02.880: Analyze the text, and it's very comical too.
00:02.960: I w I want to get this background.
00:02.960: I mean, we just bought like a one terabyte little shuttle drive for like seventy nine bucks, USB three.
00:02.960: And then bring that into the timeline index to where you can have all the same metadata from the event browser in the timeline index.
00:02.960: Sold, you know?
00:03.040: So, the thing that's interesting about Julian, and you know, we try and talk to different types of people all the time on the show here.
00:03.040: Okay, so this is the most unceremonious intro ever.
00:03.040: We're better when we share.
00:03.040: So then you the summer job working at the Apple Store.
00:03.040: Yeah, I know.
00:03.040: You're not getting the ultimate speed out of the Thunderbolt because you're dealing with a single drive.
00:03.040: It's still really pretty fast.
00:03.040: It doesn't just slide out of the way.
00:03.040: So like all you had to do if you could find the phrase you wanted in that body of text, you just click on the word, your timeline jumps right there.
00:03.040: Yeah, so anyway, I just took everybody on a weird time travel thing and I apologize for that.
00:03.120: Because at the time, they were still teaching Final Cut 7.
00:03.120: I was like, cool, I'll just use that.
00:03.120: Yeah.
00:03.120: I'll figure out what the house is.
00:03.120: But even still, I the the conversation is changing.
00:03.120: Like for somebody like me who's just getting started, who's going out there and doing this, and things are very simple with the jobs that I have where I work.
00:03.200: Something's wired weird.
00:03.200: Just tell me the reason, tell me the end result that you want, and then I'll find my own way to do it that's better.
00:03.200: Another way would be, well, I don't know.
00:03.200: I can.
00:03.200: No, I had a different one.
00:03.200: Okay.
00:03.200: So this is now the sixth month.
00:03.200: Deleting stuff is the funnest thing in everyone.
00:03.280: So Julian, you contacted me through, I think, Facebook.
00:03.280: Yeah.
00:03.280: 433 megabytes per second.
00:03.280: And still, I mean, that feels like it's a workaround.
00:03.280: Probably, yeah.
00:03.280: And there's the search on the top, so you don't even have to do that.
00:03.360: Go check it out.
00:03.360: It's called Phone View.
00:03.360: I want to I want to read you a little bit of a letter, talk about uh people participating in the show.
00:03.360: And he's like, Yeah, we might need some PAs or whatever.
00:03.360: So you said you wanted to shoot it.
00:03.360: And so they have the docking station and then they have the hard drive on it.
00:03.360: Every time I would open it, sometime multiple times per day, they're like, here's another update.
00:03.440: It's a top website.
00:03.440: It's one of those things.
00:03.440: Yeah, we have a couple of those too.
00:03.440: Again, if I'm gonna animate stuff, I do it in After Effects.
00:03.440: Oh, that's right.
00:03.440: I'll press the little microphone button on the iPhone and then it'll start recording.
00:03.520: Yeah.
00:03.520: There's the cinema department and then there's the Becca department, which is the broadcasting department.
00:03.520: And he's somebody that I latched onto from the first semester, and I took every single one of his classes.
00:03.520: And it would be cool if you're doing it for like a rock concert, punk concert, anything like that, and you've just got the crowd out there and then you get those really cool kind of POV shots from the crowd without having to have the big camera there that's kind of different.
00:03.520: So, like you're saying, you just got to get out and do something.
00:03.520: There it is.
00:03.520: That is true.
00:03.520: But anyway, I just ended up going and clicking on a shot, finding it in the event browser, and then just putting it back in another timeline.
00:03.520: And then we were we ended up finishing it like six or seven months after I finished editing it.
00:03.520: So here's a couple of projects.
00:03.600: There's a lot of people that do audio only, and there's a ton of people that just love doing the radio work.
00:03.600: Does anybody remember that book?
00:03.600: And my biggest struggle, there was a music video that I shot and directed and edited and
00:03.600: You have to you you're you it's decisions that unfortunately are mostly about compromise.
00:03.600: So summer of 2012, that was the year I did my BMW tour thing, which some people have heard me talk about.
00:03.600: That's the funnest.
00:03.600: Like, yeah, you know, we're still trying to work out a better work, a better metaphor for that because it wasn't good before and we want it to be great.
00:03.600: Somebody just said that to me the other day.
00:03.680: Yeah.
00:03.680: Let me clear that up.
00:03.680: Yeah, I realize that, because I've just started making my own stuff and putting in there.
00:03.680: So, what if you have like a bullet point list that you've made in Photoshop?
00:03.680: I'll tell you, I hate stuff like that because it has no reference to chronology.
00:03.680: Yeah, let me pull out my list that I've been writing down and pick one of these.
00:03.680: The problem is, is it almost took a PhD to actually work it properly, and very few people actually did work it properly.
00:03.680: We'll talk to you more later on Final Cut Grow.
00:03.760: I was listening to whatever the second to last episode was, and I just messaged you, and like 20 minutes later, you're like, Yeah.
00:03.760: I've just been looking on Craigslist, and that's probably not the best place to look for work like that.
00:03.760: It opened.
00:03.760: I've heard that before.
00:03.760: Well, and that's what we did, and that's what I did at the end of that semester when I did.
00:03.760: And I was like, look, I want to shoot everything.
00:03.760: And then you'll get up to Illinois and you'll get on I can't I think they call it the Lincoln Highway or whatever and you can go through like uh
00:03.760: No, I didn't.
00:03.760: And especially with slice X and Track X.
00:03.760: But when you now that if you properly assign roles, you export the XML, you run it through X to Pro, you open it up in Pro Tools and it's really pretty nice.
00:03.760: And no doubt it was fun listening to Julian.
00:03.760: So I can't get away from the Australians here on Final Cut Grill.
00:03.840: But as I remember, it used to be very theoretical and not as much hands on.
00:03.840: There's always somebody there.
00:03.840: They didn't care.
00:03.840: co and look back to then at my comments, you'll probably figure out what I did wrong.
00:03.840: That's what we want to try doing something like that.
00:03.840: That is an awesome tip.
00:03.920: This is episode 044, if my records are correct.
00:03.920: He found me via Facebook, and please don't use Facebook.
00:03.920: Oh, okay.
00:03.920: It's it's one of the things.
00:03.920: Yeah.
00:03.920: And so we went through that.
00:03.920: I wanted to have it with me so that I could learn it.
00:03.920: I don't know what happened with it.
00:03.920: And I'm in Santa Cruz and I'm going to Pacifica and I'm driving back and forth and that's just super easy and portable.
00:03.920: And I feel like there's just a lot of little things now that I'm like when I'm in
00:03.920: And as the text is sliding, it's just jittery, jittery, jittery.
00:03.920: It's just a different way of managing the media and everything.
00:03.920: Okay.
00:03.920: It didn't work the same way.
00:03.920: I'm going to work on a website here soon, but I haven't had time for that.
00:04.000: Why do we cut the corners off?
00:04.000: I had to go back and finish my AA at a community college in Santa Cruz and then.
00:04.000: And on the right-hand side, there's a little tab.
00:04.000: And that's when I started shooting video, too.
00:04.000: And I approached him and I was like, Look, the classes that are being taught here are really about software.
00:04.000: I know.
00:04.000: Me and my friend who edits in Premiere, we always talk back and forth about that and stuff.
00:04.000: It's these little details.
00:04.000: There's a little icon that says here's a drive.
00:04.000: It can be a second or two or three into the compound clip that is the horse.
00:04.000: And so hopefully they're working on that.
00:04.000: Once you create a custom role, you can't delete it.
00:04.000: And I can't remember exactly what they are, but it's not consistent around the software.
00:04.080: Let's find out.
00:04.080: You said introduction to media aesthetics.
00:04.080: Are you kidding?
00:04.080: And you can get really because even if it's good, you're still editing it.
00:04.080: That's why.
00:04.080: And all that mattered was that I was able to get it to somebody to color grade and get it to somebody for sound design.
00:04.080: And it it was nice.
00:04.080: It deletes any metadata that I've entered and it goes back to normal.
00:04.080: Yeah.
00:04.160: Didn't even realize that.
00:04.160: And what Apple and all Apple really did with the magnetic timeline
00:04.160: How many guys do you have?
00:04.160: Yeah, don't don't look at this screen.
00:04.240: If you've never looked at the music at Premium Beat, just go check it out.
00:04.240: It was all about going out and practicing, using whatever you have, and just either getting stuff from the equipment cage there or using your own.
00:04.240: You have to do all of these extra steps.
00:04.240: But when a lot of this stuff becomes an issue, is when you're finishing a project and you're polishing it.
00:04.240: Just delete, delete, delete.
00:04.320: But you're not going to make money playing guitar.
00:04.320: Right.
00:04.320: Yeah.
00:04.320: There's an app that actually does something like that.
00:04.320: I didn't have any external drives.
00:04.320: Wa was it feature, short, what was it?
00:04.320: And I think a lot of people don't read.
00:04.320: If you have to key it over live video, you can't do that.
00:04.320: I will unmount that drive.
00:04.320: That's I mean that's what I'm really hoping the future is that eventually people
00:04.400: I think it ties in nicely to just the way you started this about the ham and cutting the corners and everything.
00:04.400: He's the guy that let you in downstairs.
00:04.400: So a little tab on the side.
00:04.400: It's somewhere else.
00:04.400: We've got a Pegasus at the recording studio.
00:04.400: I've noticed since 10.
00:04.400: Two weeks is not really a whole lot of time.
00:04.400: It's the most amazing slider I've ever seen.
00:04.480: Still working on some of the tutorials.
00:04.480: So it took it took like an additional year for me to get in there, but then by the time I got in there.
00:04.480: So yeah.
00:04.480: Oh, okay.
00:04.480: That's nice.
00:04.480: And if you go back to school after working in the real world and giving presentations where you're selling
00:04.480: USB 3 is like my new, one of my new favorites.
00:04.480: I never knew anything else.
00:04.560: So I spent my 20s looking for something that I wanted to do.
00:04.560: That was the third semester then.
00:04.560: You drag off the MOV, you don't have to sync it to iTunes.
00:04.560: I've heard people say, well, we'll delete that, and then I've heard it, which means it wasn't.
00:04.560: Um and uh I volunteered for
00:04.560: They didn't know.
00:04.560: I use at least 8 gigabytes of RAM normally.
00:04.560: And so maybe the first shot is a meadow, and here comes the horse.
00:04.560: I mean, it's always going to depend on the speaker and the accents where they are and all of that.
00:04.560: While I'm looking, I'm just going to tell you that I think that when you're selecting a typeface, even though you said you don't use the titles in Final Cut 10.
00:04.560: Here's one for you.
00:04.560: And that's the thing.
00:04.560: Not like Bueller, spelled different than Bueller.
00:04.640: I think if I had if I had continued through college, I
00:04.640: We're I've been saying that my new my new philosophy is that human beings, the human species is a tribal species.
00:04.640: There's a million.
00:04.640: Did you also edit it?
00:04.640: We don't actually do that.
00:04.640: Because especially with Mavericks, there's that whole language
00:04.720: God bless you.
00:04.720: And then it got to some update and it didn't work.
00:04.720: There's many movies about older people going back to school and just, yeah, okay.
00:04.720: It wasn't deleted or anything.
00:04.720: Yeah, and I know that somebody has a utility and somebody I'm sure will tweet what that is.
00:04.720: So you're going down to 10.
00:04.720: And that's what's really cool about the future of Final Cut: I think what Final Cut is, is it's an iPhone.
00:04.800: I had used iMovie twice before that because I was like, I should just start editing things.
00:04.800: When did you approach Professor Connie about
00:04.800: The edit system was the cost of like a new, you know, Acura.
00:04.800: And so I had this issue, and what I ended up doing, just because I didn't have time to figure it out, we needed to get it to the guy who's going to color grade it.
00:04.800: If it's animated, it probably gets made in After Effects.
00:04.800: I wanna I want to go on another road trip over the summer and do some more.
00:04.800: It's too confining for me.
00:04.800: But the way that I normally do it, I have iCloud set up on my computer.
00:04.800: Like video is above the audio in one part, and audio is above video in the other one.
00:04.800: And that's what I think is really cool because if you look at the iPhone and you take away all of the third-party apps.
00:04.800: But what really makes it special is the third-party plugins.
00:04.880: And I think that it's a great metaphor about
00:04.880: Right.
00:04.880: I had the white MacBook and Final Cut 10.
00:04.880: Oh, yeah, way more.
00:04.880: Oh, yeah, we're all antsy.
00:04.880: It could be frame rate.
00:04.880: Quite often you will, you're on your secondary storyline and you want to dissolve.
00:04.960: I shouldn't say that publicly because they'll probably figure out some way to steal it from me.
00:04.960: Well, there's I've I've said this many times.
00:04.960: Probably.
00:04.960: So Sight Sound Motion.
00:04.960: I mean, you were basically by yourself, quote unquote, teaching your own thing, or did he?
00:04.960: Now, I haven't watched it or the trailer or anything, but he did send me a link.
00:04.960: Although, you got to do a little in editing.
00:04.960: I clock it at about 180 megabytes per second, read and write.
00:04.960: So, what you do then is on the export, there's a little checkbox that it says
00:04.960: Hopefully, there's enough of it left over in at least one spot where I can drop a lower third on the guy.
00:04.960: I'll tell you the thing: that for somebody like me, as old as me, the thing that's most interesting is meeting people like Julian Ferris.
00:05.040: And then there are some people, and I think it's a very narrow thing, and I definitely fall into that where I like
00:05.040: Really?
00:05.040: But whatever.
00:05.040: If it doesn't work, sorry.
00:05.040: Yeah.
00:05.040: Here's all my projects that are on dry.
00:05.040: The other problem that it has is it gives you no
00:05.040: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop using that.
00:05.040: That's why I have it.
00:05.120: It's a nice transition.
00:05.120: But we're like, let's try and make a web series out of this and let's see if we want to go that route and try something.
00:05.120: And because it was an award show, so we had B-roll, and then we had to put the awards in that we were getting like the day before the show.
00:05.120: And if they're already laid into your time line, you're kind of screwed.
00:05.120: And I'm taking an interview of somebody who is not a public speaker, so they're
00:05.200: I hadn't even decided I wanted to be an editor then.
00:05.200: And so at the end of the semester, I was like, okay, I think I kind of want to do editing.
00:05.200: We're gonna go long here.
00:05.200: Yeah, well, we've got full Pro Too Pro Tools ready at the studio.
00:05.280: Well, he is fresh out of college.
00:05.280: Anyway, I just want to thank the guys at Premium Beat for stepping up and supporting the show.
00:05.280: So they contacted Grandma.
00:05.280: You've got band practice, writing songs.
00:05.280: San Francisco Bay Area is very premier focused right now.
00:05.280: And so that was when I approached the professor to do an independent study on editing.
00:05.280: Okay.
00:05.280: I'm going to giving it to you.
00:05.280: Which as an editor is probably quite possibly the case.
00:05.280: That's the biggest.
00:05.280: Some of them were there.
00:05.280: There are times where, let's say, there are a lot of people.
00:05.280: And, you know, I'm obsessed over learning about Apple.
00:05.280: If you know, whenever I move on from that job, it'll be contained super easy.
00:05.280: So actually, let's l let's back this up.
00:05.280: And I don't know if other people are having problems with that, but it's on both of the computers that I use in place.
00:05.360: And I thought it would be interesting, and sure enough, it was.
00:05.360: And then I saw that it said scene.
00:05.360: Yeah, I think that Julian actually drove across the bay from
00:05.360: So, um uh yeah, I don't
00:05.360: If you want to hear what I do, there's like hundreds of hours of podcasts out there.
00:05.360: At any rate, at any rate, I just always thought that would be a good idea.
00:05.360: Showing up on time is half the battle.
00:05.360: And then I just mark.
00:05.360: Right.
00:05.440: Hello, hello.
00:05.440: And then there's not actually a whole lot of theory.
00:05.440: Done.
00:05.440: And I was like, Okay, I'll message you on Facebook.
00:05.440: 1 came out.
00:05.440: Yeah, and so I'm once again from that
00:05.440: Yeah, you know, those are just those little tricks.
00:05.440: From now on, every Monday, all the teams have to eat lunch together and they need to share stuff on a whiteboard.
00:05.520: This was my first exposure to it, other than when I edited two little things in iMovie, just before that.
00:05.520: I don't want to share this with anybody.
00:05.520: So that my first experience editing was with
00:05.520: And I still had trouble with it because there's still times where, oh, this is moving this and this is moving that, and there's just.
00:05.520: Do 66.
00:05.520: All right, forty gigabytes.
00:05.520: Every library.
00:05.520: And unfortunately, you guys had to listen to 57 minutes of podcast to get there.
00:05.520: And if you haven't looked into Generate Asset, watch that tutorial on my website.
00:05.520: Here's one for you.
00:05.520: It's already which you haven't heard it yet.
00:05.600: So I don't know exactly when that's going to happen, but those are going to happen.
00:05.600: Hello, there.
00:05.600: You could go around and put together a whole band.
00:05.600: I go, I know my tool.
00:05.600: Okay, now if there's many edits in the
00:05.600: And I've just had to have a lot of patience over.
00:05.600: You're going to be hearing a lot more about them in the coming weeks and hopefully months.
00:05.680: Okay, right at the time Final Cut 10 was announced.
00:05.680: It's that same type of process.
00:05.680: And then we went out and shot some of the story out on the coast at one of the beaches there.
00:05.680: I deleted it because I was a little bit more useful.
00:05.680: Uh s s sir uh Craig.
00:05.680: I mean, I was the only one there that knew anything about editing.
00:05.680: Well, did you ever get it back?
00:05.680: It was still there, but the
00:05.680: It's just that it's the default setting now.
00:05.760: No, I've said it many times, and I don't know if you heard what I don't know what even day is today.
00:05.760: Okay, so you couldn't miss that.
00:05.760: Because as an editor, because that's all I do, I never touch cameras.
00:05.760: But the trick to it is, well, how do you get all that footage off?
00:05.760: Yeah, that's the easiest thing ever.
00:05.760: Yeah.
00:05.760: So, yeah, I will concur the SSDs are actually coming down in price and they're very affordable.
00:05.760: So, I ran into this issue.
00:05.760: But I think that the guy who wrote it
00:05.760: Yeah.
00:05.760: Yeah, then we're going to go to Santa Fe, Oklahoma.
00:05.760: Yeah.
00:05.840: Okay, that makes sense.
00:05.840: So I didn't start editing until I got my external drives and I put in a solid state drive in my iMac, took that apart, put it back together.
00:05.840: It's so fast.
00:05.840: And I was like, this is horrible.
00:05.840: But if he was, it's one of those things where it's it needs to be Apple standard.
00:05.840: I gotta imagine they would be.
00:05.840: With the event browser, there's so much information that you can put in there.
00:05.840: And I will tell you this right now, if you did want to move East with your friend that you're taking back East,
00:05.840: And this is what it's going to be.
00:05.920: I mean, I think you could come in.
00:05.920: Hey, speaking of which, question to the audience, let me just say there's a couple of things.
00:05.920: He made me put together a syllabus.
00:05.920: What did you do?
00:05.920: And it was we did
00:05.920: And if someone's like, Yeah, see, like when I was in school, the cameras were about the
00:05.920: They just want to take the credit for having produced or directed the work.
00:05.920: Yeah, and this is something that I actually realized
00:05.920: There's no grid.
00:05.920: And what you do is you lay out your text.
00:05.920: It could be.
00:05.920: And every time I've tried to install it, I wasn't able to.
00:05.920: It shows you every library that is currently mounted.
00:05.920: I actually have a beta version of something that's not real yet.
00:05.920: Okay, by default, your connection point is going to be the first frame of a piece of video.
00:06.000: I tried to avoid sales because I did that my whole life.
00:06.000: So, yeah, I'll give you a little summary.
00:06.000: I don't know.
00:06.000: Yeah, if you're going that way, you should go Route 66.
00:06.000: Oh, I know.
00:06.000: And yeah, it'd be nice if you had better guides when you used the crappy text tool, but whatever.
00:06.000: Later, later.
00:06.080: You're like, what is this?
00:06.080: So you basically just showed up and said, I'm going to make your movie for you.
00:06.080: And all that's all they really did.
00:06.080: Because I know when I used to cut
00:06.080: And that's what I'm more excited about.
00:06.080: It was six bucks.
00:06.080: Now, you what you were doing is you have your notes.
00:06.080: Anyway, that's a little freebie.
00:06.080: And then you're like, oh, where's my game plugin?
00:06.160: So the classes where you actually get to go and shoot your short films or whatever.
00:06.160: Oh, yeah.
00:06.160: I'm using Final Cut 10.
00:06.160: Yeah, yeah, okay.
00:06.160: And because to edit, you have to have something to shoot.
00:06.160: Like, I think the ones that were rendered were still there, but other ones weren't.
00:06.160: And I mean, you know, technology.
00:06.160: But so take the number of episodes minus one, and that's how many great interviews there have been of people that are happily using Final Cut 10.
00:06.160: I just feel like there should be a way to get it.
00:06.160: I actually have a video of it because it's crazy and annoys me all the time.
00:06.240: I realize I don't think any of them have been published yet.
00:06.240: And I was like, that's the end of life.
00:06.240: And I think that
00:06.240: And it's sold by, I think, Ecamm.
00:06.240: Like, watching it again and seeing the stuff that he talks about just made so much more sense and it just makes things click because it's like a math class basically.
00:06.240: If you decide that slide number one wants to have a build instead of not being a build,
00:06.240: You gotta watch it.
00:06.320: And the whole reason that I thought of going into video production, too, was because it's very similar.
00:06.320: Yeah, that's really depressing, isn't it?
00:06.320: Yep.
00:06.320: Exactly.
00:06.320: There are certain times when you go, whoa, what happened?
00:06.320: Hey, I saw this tutorial a few weeks ago.
00:06.400: I also want to apologize that too often, all too often, I say Premium Beats.
00:06.400: And I shot everything.
00:06.400: That's a Pegasus.
00:06.400: Probably like 10.
00:06.400: And so what I'll do is I'll string out those three sound bites.
00:06.400: Yeah, like big money.
00:06.480: Check, check.
00:06.480: At least 70s.
00:06.480: So around December, towards the end of my second semester at State, I got an iMac.
00:06.480: Okay.
00:06.480: And it's not going to look great, but if you had
00:06.480: And
00:06.480: And so what I did was I got this
00:06.480: Well, I think it's changing.
00:06.480: I did Route 66.
00:06.480: So you can't do it on your computer with Final Cut running.
00:06.480: I'm actually going to interview
00:06.560: Can't it be more forgiving?
00:06.560: It it we I mean, it was the first time that we'd ever made anything any of us, which is really pretty bad.
00:06.560: It's so easy.
00:06.640: It just seemed to work.
00:06.640: So you went to San Francisco State.
00:06.640: No, I think that
00:06.640: So
00:06.640: So that was when I really.
00:06.640: And right now, for what we do,
00:06.640: And there's a lot of re there's I think there's stronger reasons to not do that.
00:06.640: Here's another one.
00:06.640: Sometimes just looking at something, and if it's you get some really awesome
00:06.640: Okay, yeah, there could be more data in the timeline index.
00:06.640: When you're in the effects browser, okay.
00:06.640: So then I hit from the transitions
00:06.640: That is just absolutely insane.
00:06.720: He just started a little later than
00:06.720: There's that.
00:06.720: Please don't do that, okay?
00:06.720: And it just wasn't happy.
00:06.720: I didn't really know how Final Cut 10 worked.
00:06.720: Yeah, so you have the do you have this the
00:06.720: But I worked at the Apple store at the time and we took a box apart and looked at it and it was just a regular SATA connection.
00:06.720: 2011 iMacs don't have that.
00:06.720: And I think that is still something I'd like to see changed.
00:06.720: And this is what I've been saying since the beginning of this show, back in November.
00:06.720: Yeah, I think were you using like a motion template or something to slide it around?
00:06.720: I feel like it should ha that the event browser should be more like a spreadsheet.
00:06.720: It clears out to zero.
00:06.720: Anyway, thanks for listening.
00:06.800: So so there are some tr the point of the story is that there are some traditions that are meant to be let go of.
00:06.800: I think they've added and they've changed it around, but that's what everybody calls it.
00:06.800: There were issues with my second semester application because I didn't put in my high school GPA, which I did because I made it up.
00:06.800: So, this is so interesting because you are at the very beginning of a story that I have heard.
00:06.800: That's a good analogy.
00:06.800: Okay.
00:06.800: I know that doesn't make any sense.
00:06.800: Okay, so um you did the summer thing.
00:06.800: So the render files do not need to be archived.
00:06.800: Every library it says what drive and then at the file path name in the actual application, it says, oh, this one is on
00:06.800: And since you're in the middle of the second,
00:06.800: Oh, really?
00:06.800: It's pronounced the same.
00:06.880: And if you click on that tab,
00:06.880: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, and that's that's a really difficult part about editing the footage that you shoot because.
00:06.880: And by doing, you learn.
00:06.880: But yeah, I mean, that was fun, and we shot it.
00:06.880: People that you were working with have any.
00:06.880: And so he got tired of trying to support it.
00:06.880: I because you can throw anything on there and use Slice X.
00:06.880: But 90% of the time I would say that bullet point lists
00:06.880: Yeah.
00:06.880: I don't remember if I do favorites or if I do keyword.
00:06.880: Like I said, rolls needs.
00:06.960: Somebody else sucks.
00:06.960: So it was.
00:06.960: Anybody else who is actually listening to the show, you have to just turn your volume down for two minutes.
00:06.960: And to get to do that
00:06.960: Things I Learned.
00:06.960: And then on Keynote, you can have it go by as fast as you want, and it's just smooth.
00:06.960: Oh, it's unplugged.
00:06.960: And I should have put two and two together, but it's showing me what's on it.
00:06.960: And first of all, when you're importing them, you can't assign any metadata, which would be really great, so I could know which card is done everywhere.
00:07.040: Like
00:07.040: When you ask somebody why do you do something, they either say, Well, my mom told me to cut the corners off the ham, or uh no, they'll say, Um
00:07.040: Yeah, what's the current up version, like 1.
00:07.040: Anyway, Julian, if people want to find you on the internet, what's the best way to
00:07.120: And so he.
00:07.120: And so.
00:07.120: It drives you crazy.
00:07.120: You Final Cut 10 comes out.
00:07.120: And I feel like if they're offering these things, it should be perfect, you know.
00:07.120: Right.
00:07.200: And the teacher just points to you and be like, What did I just explain?
00:07.200: Okay, Zettle.
00:07.200: And then I would get the footage and I'd have to edit it, and it would be awful.
00:07.200: I've never experienced anything but this fast
00:07.200: It was I mean, it wasn't connected
00:07.200: Yeah.
00:07.200: Figuring that out is really useful.
00:07.200: You're right, because they do all the technology is theirs.
00:07.200: So it's actually in the queue and ready to go out.
00:07.280: And I messaged him on Facebook and I was like, I want to shoot and I want to edit.
00:07.280: You should take it home to the video ga to cut T on because I need it on the at the recording studio.
00:07.280: Make that, bring it into keynote, lay it out.
00:07.280: I love just deleting
00:07.280: You already mentioned the one that I wanted the other day, so I'm not going to use that.
00:07.280: I'll just hold it up next to the speaker or just put it on the desk wherever the speaker is.
00:07.280: And the key things that you need, like X to Pro, being able to get an AAF file, which people are still complaining about OMF, I don't know.
00:07.280: Yeah, well, you're too busy cutting stuff and making money with funnel cut tables.
00:07.360: And once you get there, it's too hard to pass off.
00:07.360: So that's like.
00:07.360: Did you get constructive feedback?
00:07.360: That's why, seriously, I never lay out text in Final Cut.
00:07.360: Sorry, I should talk to the microphone.
00:07.440: It's a bad way to reach me because I never I never check it.
00:07.440: So, Julian, I was telling Julian this story when I was setting up this stuff here.
00:07.440: And anything that I had to do
00:07.440: And then in the Becca department, what does Becca stand for?
00:07.440: And that's just ridiculous for a creative person.
00:07.440: I don't think I have it on my phone anymore, but what it does is it
00:07.440: That would be me.
00:07.440: Better than Thunderbolt.
00:07.440: I just ordered the
00:07.440: You gotta get a extender thing.
00:07.440: Yeah.
00:07.440: Oh, oh, okay.
00:07.440: No, you can't delete it.
00:07.440: So
00:07.520: The only reason I keep it is because there are other
00:07.520: It's basically
00:07.520: So, I got everything edited.
00:07.520: Getting your money's worth.
00:07.520: Okay?
00:07.600: Grandma, remember how you taught me how to do the Christmas ham?
00:07.600: It's like pre-production.
00:07.600: That's really good.
00:07.600: I was taking my very first semester at school.
00:07.600: And so they we used that book when I was in school in the mid eighties.
00:07.600: Oh, absolutely not.
00:07.600: And when you l I mean, all you got to do
00:07.600: You just hit everything.
00:07.600: Yeah, that's not even close.
00:07.600: All right.
00:07.680: But I think those people are few and far between.
00:07.680: Maybe if you
00:07.680: This is compelling video.
00:07.680: I think I talked about this a couple of episodes ago about relative
00:07.680: No, that I I just ar made those arrangements uh this evening, so that's going to be fun.
00:07.760: Well, I think that, um, you know
00:07.760: Yeah, that's that's something that's just crazy
00:07.760: No, no, I know.
00:07.760: You do command option click on the secondary storyline, and it will change your connection point.
00:07.760: Right?
00:07.840: Trust me, you're going to like this.
00:07.840: I don't know.
00:07.840: And you're like, I should have done this.
00:07.840: Motion has all kinds of little snappy guidelines.
00:07.840: So Arctic Whiteness is a little application.
00:07.840: And so since it's all Thunderbolt, I've decided that from here forward I'm going to name them all after Greek gods.
00:07.920: Right.
00:07.920: So you're done with your first semester.
00:07.920: So so you took the the soundtrack, you sped it up 120%, I think you have to do with something or something.
00:07.920: I think it was at the end of the semester when I did the editing course.
00:07.920: I think they're an amazing company.
00:07.920: Yeah.
00:08.000: I'd been in a band and I had actually.
00:08.000: 0.
00:08.000: There's no pressure.
00:08.000: Yeah, that's nice.
00:08.000: It existed and it would do it, but I think the problem
00:08.000: Yeah.
00:08.000: And that's that's pretty cool.
00:08.000: Go to iTunes, leave your comments.
00:08.080: I don't care about the software.
00:08.080: And so going through it a second time, it just made things click.
00:08.080: And then he says, so I did.
00:08.080: And showing up and doing good is half the battle.
00:08.080: And I'll give you a pointer.
00:08.080: Yeah, I think that
00:08.080: Ten bucks now.
00:08.080: I will unplug that drive
00:08.080: Now, if you're going to dissolve from the previous portion of the interview, that
00:08.080: And I think, and I don't know anything about making a piece of software this complicated, but I would imagine
00:08.160: I hate Facebook.
00:08.160: Yeah, and even the graphics, like I made a video
00:08.160: Yeah, it's see, this is where I'm coming from.
00:08.160: And that, when you learn that little trick.
00:08.160: So I have to sit there, and you really can't
00:08.240: You ever play drums?
00:08.240: Not even close the other way.
00:08.240: So you
00:08.240: Wasn't that an episode?
00:08.320: And it's like, yeah, you know what?
00:08.320: And then there's.
00:08.320: It's an easy way to get a file.
00:08.320: Yeah.
00:08.320: Things I Learned.
00:08.320: Actually, I think agreed.
00:08.320: And so.
00:08.320: Julian, thanks for coming by.
00:08.400: Now, oh, you probably can't hear yourself.
00:08.400: I even
00:08.400: Not going to waste my time with the class where they're teaching.
00:08.400: He does not care.
00:08.400: You know, we had a director, we had sound guys, we had
00:08.400: I haven't looked at it, but I had this issue and I couldn't figure it out at the time where
00:08.400: You know, it's interesting.
00:08.400: Some stuff.
00:08.400: Yeah, you got it with all the motion control stuff.
00:08.400: And then here's another thing in the role editor up top.
00:08.480: And lo in locally, I mean, San Francisco State has a
00:08.480: And at that time, I just knew that I wanted to do video production.
00:08.480: 0 ran on it.
00:08.480: You keep talking to me.
00:08.480: Because
00:08.480: Oh, yeah, no, I got good stuff.
00:08.480: I'll have to give that a name so it'll be like, you know, dude talks about
00:08.480: And I realize
00:08.480: I send the AAF out, they mix it, they bring it back.
00:08.560: And, you know, it's awesome.
00:08.560: And so it's really felt that same way.
00:08.560: Especially for what I do.
00:08.560: And so, uh.
00:08.560: Because the first time, first semester, it's just all over your head.
00:08.560: Um hello, Chris and Alex, I've been listening to DCC since the beginning and to Final Cut Grill, despite being mainly a premier editor.
00:08.560: No, no, Thunderbolt's better, but the thing is, there's so many
00:08.560: Technology's technology.
00:08.560: So, you know, I'm that stupid.
00:08.560: I can't even tell it's across the room.
00:08.640: But as an editor, you go, oh, this footage is off, but how can you get more coverage?
00:08.640: We lip synced it to the track that was recorded at the re so this was an artist who recorded at our recording studio and then
00:08.640: And that's
00:08.640: With Final Cut 10.
00:08.640: Always interesting to hear different people's perspectives from different um
00:08.720: All right.
00:08.720: You know, I mean, you'd be much better off.
00:08.720: And you can get data in and off of that thing pretty quick.
00:08.720: And it gives you a little graph that shows how much
00:08.720: So you can see it all grayed out and be like, oh, it's on that drive.
00:08.720: So, let me ask you this then.
00:08.800: And that was the summer of 2012.
00:08.800: Yeah.
00:08.800: I don't know what I did.
00:08.800: And there are some times that are better than others, but
00:08.800: The stuff that I can do with that now, the way I use the object remover in every shot, I use.
00:08.880: I should have done this.
00:08.880: It actually didn't take that long to edit.
00:08.880: I do think that, again, San Francisco, at least at the corporate level,
00:08.880: I watched we did stuff in school and I watched other people edit and
00:08.880: But for what we do and for these types of projects, it's just overkill.
00:08.960: Believe me, I'm not that retarded.
00:08.960: And I don't like
00:08.960: So you can actually select that stuff, tink, tink, delete it, get a whole bunch of your drive space back.
00:08.960: There's lots of cool little things like that.
00:08.960: I think I do favorite, and then I just put it in the notes.
00:09.040: But I will say they're really cool audio centric tutorials.
00:09.040: There's one professor there.
00:09.040: Yeah, yeah, I played drums.
00:09.040: It's foundintheforest.
00:09.040: They're not going to come up with 129 ridiculous names.
00:09.040: That's my portable Thunderbolt number 10.
00:09.120: I have friends that have gone there.
00:09.120: Yeah, but having somebody come, I mean.
00:09.120: And we got like while we were shooting, I still didn't have my hard drive set up.
00:09.120: Oh, yeah.
00:09.120: And I watched him edit in 7 and we needed to like
00:09.120: And people say, well, let's move that over here.
00:09.120: 64 or something?
00:09.120: There's two great tutorials on my website about using Photoshop.
00:09.200: Let's ask your great-grandmother.
00:09.200: And so I did that for a while.
00:09.200: And I didn't have anything to shoot.
00:09.200: The way that they do.
00:09.200: And that's what's really going to start happening.
00:09.280: The typical multi-camera crew that you
00:09.280: Okay.
00:09.280: Which route are you taking?
00:09.280: And it just makes the life so much easier.
00:09.360: It means the world to us.
00:09.360: Because the thing that I've realized is a lot of people don't really.
00:09.360: You started.
00:09.360: I don't want to learn about the software.
00:09.360: It's for him, you could use camera, whatever camera, whatever anything you want to use.
00:09.360: If you know post, you can be a hero in film school.
00:09.360: I went to the editors section in there where you never hear people
00:09.360: Yeah, yeah.
00:09.360: Yeah, we do that even on the big uh on the big Pegasus raids.
00:09.440: It's great music that fits really well into an ad.
00:09.440: That first semester, did you do anything in Final Cut 7?
00:09.440: This is from
00:09.520: The one on Stockman.
00:09.520: I should have done this.
00:09.520: So the song is faster and then they were kind of freaking out about playing it that way.
00:09.520: Okay, so you got a whole list.
00:09.520: When I'm sitting there trying to put a story together, it's so easy to just move everything around and just
00:09.600: And seriously.
00:09.600: Now, did the peop and and and you said, What year was this?
00:09.600: But I think that a lot of people don't realize that Final Cut 7 did do that.
00:09.600: Yeah, why can't Final Cut have that?
00:09.600: Oh, yeah.
00:09.600: Thanks for having me.
00:09.680: I want to talk to somebody who
00:09.760: I'm either
00:09.760: So, anyway.
00:09.760: You uh a another semester later you did the editing
00:09.760: And I think that there is a huge
00:09.760: Nothing ever works all the time.
00:09.760: And we didn't do that, but
00:09.760: If you really know Final Cut 7, and most people don't.
00:09.760: And it's because you're not.
00:09.760: But over the rest of it, I'm going to put a bunch of B-roll.
00:09.840: And Julian is interesting because
00:09.840: Because the I'll probably only see the first three, four, five characters, so those really count.
00:09.840: Go and sit in the same office every day.
00:09.840: So it's probably not going to be as bad as you think it's going to be.
00:09.840: And I would open that and I would have his whole timeline.
00:09.920: And then.
00:09.920: He's like, I don't know what that means.
00:09.920: What did you think?
00:09.920: Don't be an idiot.
00:09.920: Prior to Ten.
00:09.920: That's like yesterday, because I was thinking about what I wanted to talk about on here and
00:09.920: No, yeah, no, no, no.
00:09.920: I heard a long time ago somebody saying.
00:10.000: Has that changed?
00:10.000: I've you know, during school and after school, I'm I'm probably just not looking in the right place, but
00:10.000: And we went back in and we changed some things and it was just really slow.
00:10.000: I'm going to give you one more tip and then we should wrap this up.
00:10.000: So here's a little tip.
00:10.000: Why don't they just wire it all together?
00:10.000: 1, you could eject your SD cards.
00:10.000: And by metadata, I mean a custom name, not metadata like we have now.
00:10.080: Any bass players here?
00:10.080: You don't have USB 3.
00:10.080: And he was importing
00:10.080: No, but it's up there.
00:10.160: I cannot.
00:10.160: I should have done this.
00:10.160: That's fine because I like doing that work.
00:10.160: And I've got
00:10.160: So he just said, take it for free.
00:10.160: I will say that the
00:10.160: That's crazy.
00:10.160: I love hearing those.
00:10.240: The main class that helped me decide this was the intro
00:10.240: So, um
00:10.240: So you don't
00:10.240: That's really cool.
00:10.320: I know that's three halves
00:10.320: That's that's exciting.
00:10.320: It won't transcribe properly.
00:10.320: Give me one more.
00:10.400: So when did you start at?
00:10.400: And so there was this stuff that had to be intertwined between.
00:10.400: You know, it took a couple weeks to get the rough.
00:10.400: So we had just
00:10.400: I'll ask you the closing question I've been doing for the last few episodes.
00:10.400: Take care.
00:10.480: And it's not Premium Beats, it's PremiumBeat.
00:10.480: Let me give you a pointer about video editing.
00:10.480: Which one about it?
00:10.560: So.
00:10.560: Yep, Stockman Street.
00:10.560: Well, I've said for years that every shooter.
00:10.560: And I was like, okay.
00:10.560: I just want to do everything in Final Cut.
00:10.560: There's not a lot of edit.
00:10.560: And then there's another thing called Poor Man's Dynamic Link or
00:10.640: I want to learn about.
00:10.640: And I'd do the ripple cut and come over here, ripple pick.
00:10.720: Why do we cut the corners off?
00:10.720: I have friends that went there in the seventies.
00:10.720: And so.
00:10.720: I saved up some money, and then
00:10.720: And what I ended up having to do
00:10.720: No.
00:10.720: Yeah, I got you.
00:10.800: Like, I decided, okay, I want to do editing, and I didn't have any footage, so I downloaded.
00:10.800: But
00:10.800: And but it seems like, okay, important to resolve, and then
00:10.800: Uh yeah, a bunch of disconnected drives.
00:10.800: I got a whole list.
00:10.880: Yeah, fresh out of college.
00:10.880: Or, why didn't I do that?
00:10.960: Yeah, yeah, I played.
00:11.040: Yeah.
00:11.040: The one thing.
00:11.040: I've been saying give it six to twelve months, the conversation is going to be totally different.
00:11.040: Well, that's the company, and they make a thing called Final Cut.
00:11.040: I love reading them.
00:11.120: Because Motion does.
00:11.120: It's gotten so much better.
00:11.120: And uh the iPhone uh uh
00:11.200: com.
00:11.200: So I don't know what it was before.
00:11.200: I've watched I I'd I'd try Premiere, but I wouldn't do seven ever.
00:11.280: Just being able to
00:11.280: I feel like the way I would want it implemented in
00:11.280: Let me listen to this.
00:11.360: Becca is broadcast.
00:11.360: And
00:11.360: So
00:11.360: If you need somebody to do that, I'll do that, but I'm not going to do a PA.
00:11.360: I don't know what is going on there, but
00:11.360: Yeah, the other way.
00:11.360: And I thought I heard that logic is in like Germany.
00:11.440: Hold it horizontally.
00:11.440: And I bought all my own gear, I bought a GH2.
00:11.440: And you said that it would show you all the mounted.
00:11.520: What do you think of this little passage?
00:11.520: And if you, that's probably what.
00:11.520: Yeah.
00:11.520: And that's what I really feel.
00:11.680: Yeah, so we just went over that book in extreme detail.
00:11.680: I did that for every shot.
00:11.680: Yeah, there's a lot more stuff on there.
00:11.760: Yeah, the flag street.
00:11.760: Well, here's the here's a really good bit of advice.
00:11.760: Yeah, okay.
00:11.840: Okay, I need a lead guitar.
00:11.840: But it's, you know, the
00:11.840: So please, Apple, let's fix that.
00:11.840: So when you're looking for something, you can do the search bar and you can find it.
00:11.840: Yeah.
00:11.840: Give me one more.
00:11.840: And Apple, please give me some way that I can respond back to those people.
00:11.840: That'll be a fun interview, I promise.
00:11.920: I just started late.
00:11.920: That's not even close.
00:12.000: So
00:12.000: I did nothing.
00:12.000: It's really fun.
00:12.000: So I just press play on the interview.
00:12.000: I do think.
00:12.000: And like many things, you know, like.
00:12.080: I was keyframing everything.
00:12.080: Oh, yeah.
00:12.080: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
00:12.240: I just
00:12.240: It's way better than just going from
00:12.320: That is a really, really, really good tip.
00:12.480: Ah.
00:12.480: For that, I would totally do that.
00:12.480: Yeah, and so that's the thing.
00:12.480: So we were talking earlier about
00:12.560: So I just ordered bare drives.
00:12.560: The nice thing right now is I've got.
00:12.560: So
00:12.560: You know, I j I think I threw out like
00:12.720: I don't want anybody else to listen to this idea.
00:12.880: Did you work upstairs or downstairs?
00:12.880: And I think that
00:12.960: Okay, you're in.
00:12.960: So
00:13.120: Well, you weren't there.
00:13.120: Do you get all the handles and everything?
00:13.200: com.
00:13.200: So, without further ado, let's join.
00:13.200: And.
00:13.200: Everything exactly.
00:13.280: Sure.
00:13.280: Like, some of this stuff gets really
00:13.600: I mean, that's where.
00:13.680: So now.
00:13.760: Okay.
00:13.920: For.
00:14.000: But
00:14.560: Yeah, yeah.
00:14.560: Yeah.