Episode 8
FCG003 - FCPX 10.1 Mini Intro (feat. Alex Gollner)
Well, Apple surprised us all with a midnight release and I headed into the studio to get Alex Gollner on the Skyper to get his first hand impressions of the new release. This is a very rough recording.
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00:02.080: Speaker 1: So it's the middle of the night.
00:03.440: Speaker 1: I just got off of Skype with Alex Gollner and 10.
00:07.680: Speaker 1: 1 is out.
00:08.800: Speaker 1: So literally while he's opening the file.
00:12.040: Speaker 1: We have a conversation on Skype, and I'm going to try and get this out to you first thing in the morning.
00:18.680: Speaker 1: So, let's go to the interview.
00:23.880: Speaker 1: Okay, let's see.
00:25.340: Speaker 1: So it is uh it is what time is it?
00:27.500: Speaker 1: It's uh 147 a.
00:29.980: Speaker 1: m.
00:30.460: Speaker 1: California time.
00:32.619: Speaker 1: Uh I am uh
00:34.980: Speaker 1: going insane here because my stupid Comcast isn't working.
00:39.380: Speaker 1: I actually saw your tweet at about I I fell asleep watching David Letterman.
00:44.600: Speaker 1: Here in the States, and I woke up and I and I roll over and I look at the Twitterizer, and it's Alex going, Oh, it's here.
00:51.880: Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh.
00:52.840: Speaker 1: And I jump.
00:53.720: Speaker 1: See, I barely have internet at home.
00:56.020: Speaker 1: So I get in the car and I drive over to the office and the stupid Comcast is not working.
01:03.460: Speaker 1: Oh my God.
01:05.940: Speaker 1: So it's been, what, over an hour and you haven't
01:08.400: Speaker 1: actually downloaded it or looked at it I all I've done I've read your tweets thank you the the great the great Carno diviner
01:17.460: Speaker 1: Of Final Cut 10 here, Alex Golner.
01:21.140: Speaker 1: And I don't know.
01:22.020: Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I think the Great Carnot is a reference to a local news weather.
01:25.840: Speaker 1: commercial.
01:26.560: Speaker 1: Never mind.
01:27.520: Speaker 1: I I knew, of course.
01:28.960: Speaker 1: Okay, and then um and I read uh Philip Hodgett's review.
01:32.720: Speaker 1: Apparently he's been secretly playing with the software for a couple of months.
01:38.000: Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I I had a quick scam through that.
01:40.719: Speaker 2: I mean he but he tweeted me to say that I'd I got it right and he wish he'd been able to uh do this same kind of divining, but obviously being on the Peter program I guess he couldn't uh
01:52.980: Speaker 1: It'd probably be a bad thing.
01:55.060: Speaker 1: It's nice that Apple is getting in pulling in some of the real stalwart experts in this and
02:05.540: Speaker 1: You know, 'cause Philip has done great stuff for Final Cut 10, and I'm glad they're getting his input on it.
02:15.520: Speaker 2: I haven't started the app yet.
02:17.200: Speaker 2: I'm just kind of finding out all about it and trying to get the word out.
02:20.640: Speaker 2: And so I yeah, I need to kind of
02:24.320: Speaker 2: Get into it.
02:25.040: Speaker 2: But there's a couple of things.
02:26.640: Speaker 2: I've noticed that there you can type in arbitrary resolutions for clips.
02:31.040: Speaker 2: So you can say I want my project to be this number of pixels by that number of pixels.
02:35.360: Speaker 1: I'm dying to know what the.
02:37.500: Speaker 1: I'm dying to know what the maximum resolution is you can do.
02:41.740: Speaker 2: Well, um, let's see.
02:42.940: Speaker 2: Maybe I should start it up for the first time.
02:45.540: Speaker 2: Go for it.
02:46.420: Speaker 1: See what happens.
02:47.300: Speaker 1: Hold on.
02:47.700: Speaker 1: I'm gonna refresh my my dead browser.
02:50.740: Speaker 1: Yep.
02:51.140: Speaker 1: Thank you, Comcast.
02:53.500: Speaker 2: Okay, so what does this button do here?
02:57.420: Speaker 2: I have to start up the right version.
02:59.900: Speaker 1: I want to explain to listeners of this ridiculous sound file.
03:03.740: Speaker 1: If Alex Golner doesn't sound as good as he normally does, it's because
03:08.120: Speaker 1: I have I can't even take a picture of this.
03:11.080: Speaker 1: Okay, so I have my iPhone stacked on top of an empty Drive box.
03:16.440: Speaker 1: and a Rubik's Cube, and I have my my Neumann microphone equidistant between my voice and the speakerphone.
03:24.440: Speaker 1: I'm actually talking to Alex in London on Skype via the iPhone because my Internet isn't working.
03:32.940: Speaker 2: So this is coming through the speaker through your iPhone into your mic and
03:39.740: Speaker 1: Yes.
03:45.580: Speaker 1: Yeah, it it's coming off of the speakerphone of the iPhone into my Neumann microphone.
03:51.720: Speaker 1: Now that being said, I wonder if I could plug plug it in.
03:57.319: Speaker 1: That might be worth trying.
03:59.480: Speaker 1: You would sound actually really good if I did that.
04:02.820: Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll keep on speaking just a little bit like this.
04:05.300: Speaker 2: I've just started up VinoCup Pro 10.
04:07.380: Speaker 2: 1 for the first time.
04:08.580: Speaker 1: Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
04:09.940: Speaker 1: Let me plug you in.
04:12.020: Speaker 1: And then go like this.
04:14.340: Speaker 1: Oh, there we go.
04:15.700: Speaker 1: Hello, hello.
04:17.220: Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
04:18.959: Speaker 2: Um, I can hear you perfectly.
04:20.000: Speaker 2: Oh, perfect.
04:20.799: Speaker 2: Okay.
04:21.599: Speaker 2: Well, that was all part of the plan.
04:22.960: Speaker 2: You all planned it this way.
04:24.240: Speaker 1: No, I d oh, now you're not going to hear me, so I have to put this high enough that you that I'm close enough.
04:30.639: Speaker 2: You can hear me okay?
04:32.440: Speaker 2: Perfectly fine, perfectly clear.
04:34.039: Speaker 2: Perfect.
04:34.440: Speaker 2: Okay.
04:36.039: Speaker 2: So I've just uh started up Final Cut Pro 10.
04:38.919: Speaker 2: 1 for the first time, and I've chosen not to convert my
04:42.740: Speaker 2: previous events and projects for now because I uh don't want to mess with that.
04:47.140: Speaker 1: And um do you still have access to them though?
04:51.340: Speaker 2: No, they haven't appeared in the list.
04:52.780: Speaker 2: So it's as if I had is inst using Final Cut Pro for the first time and it can't see any of my previous stuff.
04:59.020: Speaker 2: So I'm just going to import some media and see what happens.
05:02.860: Speaker 2: So
05:03.940: Speaker 2: I've done import, and it wants to know if I want to add it to an existing event or to create a new event in a choice of libraries.
05:12.260: Speaker 2: I think we should create a new event.
05:14.480: Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to do create a new event, and I've got a new library, so I'm just going to say tell my story.
05:25.780: Speaker 2: And I can choose whether when I'm importing the media, I can either leave them as they are, so I can actually leave this video clip exactly as it is on the hard drive, or
05:36.139: Speaker 2: I have the choice of copy them into the library or copy them to a different library.
05:40.540: Speaker 2: So I have a chance to choose what happens to the clip to the stuff that I import and where it goes.
05:45.820: Speaker 2: So that's new.
05:47.540: Speaker 1: Right.
05:48.100: Speaker 1: Because before it would just it didn't it ask you well before it asked you if you wanted to import it into the library or leave it there.
05:56.940: Speaker 1: But it's the different library that's a new feature.
06:00.060: Speaker 2: Yes.
06:00.380: Speaker 2: So what I can do is I can say I've got a library or a place where I just keep all my media.
06:06.140: Speaker 2: I can call that a library for keeping media in.
06:09.700: Speaker 2: If you suit them in.
06:10.980: Speaker 2: So I'm just going to see what else we've got in our media import thing.
06:13.860: Speaker 2: We've got leaf files in place.
06:17.539: Speaker 2: I can find people.
06:18.979: Speaker 2: I can also consolidate the find people results.
06:21.139: Speaker 2: So that things aren't too and also after importing, I can also create a smart collection after analyzing people.
06:33.380: Speaker 1: That's all the same as in 1009.
06:36.660: Speaker 1: 109.
06:38.900: Speaker 2: So I've got this clip here.
06:40.260: Speaker 2: I'm just going to click it.
06:42.160: Speaker 2: And um I'm just look click click here and I'm gonna have a look at the inspector
06:50.240: Speaker 2: Spatial conform information.
06:52.960: Speaker 2: Right, it's an H.
06:53.760: Speaker 2: 264 file, so it's a bit large.
06:55.600: Speaker 2: So I'm going to now create a new project.
07:00.360: Speaker 1: So the do the projects now live up above in the in the browser instead of down underneath the timeline?
07:09.380: Speaker 2: So let's see.
07:11.220: Speaker 2: It looks like that's the way it is.
07:13.140: Speaker 2: Yeah.
07:13.540: Speaker 2: So I'm going to.
07:15.220: Speaker 2: That was a brilliant idea.
07:17.380: Speaker 2: Yes.
07:18.420: Speaker 2: So I'm going to choose new project.
07:23.060: Speaker 2: Dialog box looks very similar.
07:25.460: Speaker 2: I've got automatic settings.
07:26.740: Speaker 2: But if I go to video properties
07:30.920: Speaker 2: custom I can choose any resolution I like so I'm going to go for what would you like five one two oh by ten eighty
07:41.940: Speaker 1: No, actually you want to know what I would what I would like?
07:46.020: Speaker 1: What's that?
07:46.900: Speaker 1: And this is I'm being totally selfish here.
07:48.900: Speaker 1: Try 10,500 by 1080.
07:53.080: Speaker 2: 10,500 by 1080.
07:55.720: Speaker 2: What frame rate would he like?
07:57.720: Speaker 2: 2997.
07:59.880: Speaker 2: Right.
08:00.280: Speaker 2: I mean, the frame rates
08:02.180: Speaker 2: from a pop-up so you can't tap your own frame rate in.
08:04.580: Speaker 2: So I'm going to click that and click OK.
08:08.660: Speaker 2: And we seem to have a it didn't complain?
08:12.320: Speaker 2: Wow.
08:14.960: Speaker 2: So I've got a very short time.
08:16.560: Speaker 1: And I only say that because I just had my first conference call on a new project I'm working on where the that's the frame size.
08:25.980: Speaker 2: Yep, it doesn't seem to be a problem.
08:27.740: Speaker 2: It is a 10,500 Y by 1080 high, 29.
08:31.340: Speaker 2: 97p.
08:32.780: Speaker 1: I mean technically it's 10,557, but you know, I'll I'll live with the 57 for now.
08:38.720: Speaker 2: Oh, l well, I'm going to click it now and then see if I can modify that property of the of it.
08:45.840: Speaker 2: So I like working this way, Alex.
08:48.000: Speaker 1: I think from now on I'm just going to
08:50.899: Speaker 1: Verbally and blindly request things of you and let you edit for me.
08:55.940: Speaker 2: Yes, it's a voice.
08:56.740: Speaker 1: How's it working?
08:57.540: Speaker 1: Does it look good?
08:58.259: Speaker 1: Fine, we'll move on.
09:00.019: Speaker 1: Exactly, yes.
09:01.380: Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to remember.
09:05.120: Speaker 2: Think about Filo Cut Pro 10, I've kind of forgotten everything.
09:07.360: Speaker 2: I've forgotten actually how to modify the properties of a project, which of course I knew how to do perfectly before.
09:12.640: Speaker 2: So I just need to.
09:15.560: Speaker 1: 10 ought nine, it's uh on the it's on the center bar on the far right side.
09:21.640: Speaker 1: There's a little gear
09:24.540: Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I'm going to info and share, and it seems to be Yeah, but it's below that.
09:31.580: Speaker 1: It's below the inspector on the center bar.
09:35.220: Speaker 2: No, it's that's not there anymore.
09:36.740: Speaker 2: So it's obviously some other place.
09:39.380: Speaker 2: Bastards.
09:42.180: Speaker 2: So that's a
09:45.120: Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna the if there is actually the FileCOT Pro online help system 10.
09:50.080: Speaker 2: 1 is available online, so anyone who wants to right now can have a look and see all the various features.
09:55.440: Speaker 1: Anybody but me because I'm being
09:58.480: Speaker 1: Punished by Comcast.
10:00.960: Speaker 2: Well, I think your iPhone can show those things, can't it?
10:03.680: Speaker 2: Probably not why I'm using Skype.
10:06.440: Speaker 2: So I'm going to look on the help system for resolution.
10:11.320: Speaker 1: Okay, so while you're doing that, Alex, I'm curious.
10:14.600: Speaker 1: You are
10:16.120: Speaker 1: A extremely inquisitive person.
10:18.920: Speaker 1: Do you find yourself going to the help and reading big hunks of it a lot?
10:25.100: Speaker 2: I like to, because I think there's so many things, it's very easy to think you know what you're doing.
10:29.500: Speaker 2: And then if you actually don't look if you're a lot careful, then you know
10:34.560: Speaker 2: You think you know.
10:36.960: Speaker 1: I am totally guilty of that.
10:38.640: Speaker 1: I it dawned on me a couple of months ago, you know, before I started the podcast.
10:46.360: Speaker 1: That I had gotten to the point where I knew how to use Final Cut 10, but I still didn't understand Final Cut 10.
10:56.120: Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
10:57.560: Speaker 2: Oh, no, absolutely.
10:58.920: Speaker 2: Because you what happens is that, well, I'm going to continue solving problems.
11:02.519: Speaker 2: I'm going to play with this thing, and then I'll just bodge my way through and I've
11:06.700: Speaker 2: And essentially, as we know, making productions is just solving all the problems until there's not any problems to solve, or we're going to actually live with those problems and we're going to publish.
11:15.500: Speaker 2: So that's what we
11:16.500: Speaker 2: That's what making stuff is.
11:18.260: Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a per perfect uh perfect description.
11:21.140: Speaker 1: We're gonna solve problems until there's nothing more to solve.
11:26.000: Speaker 2: So yeah, I just modified the project so that the timeline, so it's 10,557 pixels by 1080 high.
11:33.520: Speaker 2: All right.
11:35.079: Speaker 2: So Eingein, yeah.
11:36.519: Speaker 1: That's for Jim Hicks out there if you're listening to this show.
11:39.800: Speaker 1: He's the director on the project.
11:43.880: Speaker 2: So I'm going to Yes, they put it in a modify settings button that appears in the in that instead of it being a gear at the bottom, it actually says in the middle of that window of the Inspectify subjects.
11:56.980: Speaker 2: Modify settings and it's the same dialogue box.
12:01.540: Speaker 1: Is it a i is it a tab that peels down from the top of the window?
12:06.220: Speaker 2: No, it isn't.
12:07.180: Speaker 2: It peels down from the pro center of the main window.
12:10.380: Speaker 2: Yes, you do.
12:10.860: Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
12:11.900: Speaker 1: So here's something that I haven't heard anybody talk about.
12:15.020: Speaker 1: Is there any
12:16.140: Speaker 1: Is there any facility to tear apart your display and rip your windows apart?
12:21.580: Speaker 1: Or is it all still just one window?
12:23.980: Speaker 2: I mean, at the moment, it looks like one big window.
12:27.260: Speaker 2: I'm just going to go to the window menu.
12:29.100: Speaker 1: Now on your system, do you have multiple monitors?
12:31.500: Speaker 1: Can you like send the time line to another monitor?
12:34.240: Speaker 2: I do, yes.
12:35.280: Speaker 2: So I'm going to the media browser show viewers on separate display.
12:41.600: Speaker 2: Okay, let's done that.
12:43.520: Speaker 2: Show events on separate display.
12:44.960: Speaker 2: So that's as before.
12:46.320: Speaker 2: Okay.
12:47.360: Speaker 2: Show event viewer.
12:49.120: Speaker 2: Oh, so the event viewers before.
12:52.160: Speaker 2: Yeah.
12:53.279: Speaker 2: Now, by the way, I created this 10,000, you know, I've got this timeline.
12:59.519: Speaker 1: By all means, go to something more normal.
13:01.920: Speaker 2: No, that's fine.
13:02.780: Speaker 2: No, I've got a 10,557 pixel wide by 1080 high timeline.
13:06.700: Speaker 2: Oh, really put it.
13:11.820: Speaker 2: And I've and I've put this uh clip on the timeline and it plays perfectly for all that rendering.
13:15.980: Speaker 2: There's no problems in H.
13:16.860: Speaker 2: 264 clip.
13:18.900: Speaker 1: But it didn't scale it up to fit the width of it, did it?
13:22.980: Speaker 1: No, it didn't.
13:23.940: Speaker 2: Okay.
13:24.740: Speaker 2: Just going to.
13:25.700: Speaker 1: Oh, you could go to the
13:28.140: Speaker 1: Item properties and select for the geometry, select fit or fill.
13:33.900: Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm going to do
13:37.560: Speaker 2: Okay, I've got Phil on a connected clip and I'm going to have the same clip if you see what I mean.
13:44.920: Speaker 2: And I make it 50% opacity.
13:47.160: Speaker 2: And
13:51.540: Speaker 2: Seems to be playing fine A ten thousand pixel wide.
13:55.380: Speaker 2: The view scale of this
13:57.360: Speaker 2: On this display, because I've got a 10,000 pixel wide timeline, is 10%.
14:01.440: Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep this thing, it's 10%.
14:03.600: Speaker 2: It's big
14:05.420: Speaker 2: I've got two clips playing at the same time, one that's ten thousand five hundred and fifty seven pixels wide and one and it seems to be playing okay.
14:12.540: Speaker 1: The whole world is being subjected to the madness that is uh an eight screen blend that I'm working on.
14:21.140: Speaker 2: So I I think more and more excuse me got up quite recently, but excuse me
14:29.220: Speaker 2: I think more and more people are going to be using Final Cut Pro Tim for motion graphics.
14:32.660: Speaker 2: It is going to be the real-time motion graphics rendering thing.
14:35.620: Speaker 2: Well, I think this is interesting.
14:37.540: Speaker 1: When we spoke before, you said that you were doing
14:41.980: Speaker 1: Wait, I know you do a lot of stuff in motion, but you do a lot of little sliding about and stuff in the timeline as well, yeah?
14:50.920: Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
14:51.800: Speaker 2: I mean, I would get I would have 15 or 20 layers in Final Cut Pro and have lots of little images flying around.
14:57.319: Speaker 2: Essentially, use it like we used to use After Effects 10 years ago, really.
15:00.839: Speaker 1: Right.
15:01.319: Speaker 1: Now, according to Philip Hodgett's review,
15:04.720: Speaker 1: there is some wonderful new features of being able to copy and paste multiple keyframe attributes.
15:14.300: Speaker 1: Like you can lasso multiple keyframes and paste them between layers, I believe.
15:20.140: Speaker 1: Which is something you couldn't do in 10.
15:21.900: Speaker 1: 7.
15:23.260: Speaker 2: No, so I'm just going to have a look at that.
15:27.279: Speaker 2: See where to find that.
15:28.480: Speaker 2: I'm just gonna out key frame.
15:31.680: Speaker 1: Why don't you change your your aspect your um project pixel size?
15:40.080: Speaker 2: Through edits are now supported.
15:41.520: Speaker 2: So you can see through edits that when you put two clips together and you can join two clips to cards, you can have a join clip.
15:50.320: Speaker 2: So just like the old days, you could actually not you can have do not have problems with through edits.
15:56.960: Speaker 2: Right.
15:58.560: Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to get this
16:03.260: Speaker 2: clip here and view it at Now I thought that keyframing was to do with the fact you got you can select multiple keyframe horizontal keyframes at the same time and then do things with them.
16:16.000: Speaker 2: So I'm going to add See if you can just lasso around them Let's see, I'm going to try one of my own
16:26.020: Speaker 2: I might try one of my my own effects on this and see if they work, which would be quite nice for the menu things.
16:34.880: Speaker 2: So on my motion graphics type ones.
16:38.960: Speaker 1: Do you have any facilities on your site to keep track of like how many people are downloading certain plugins?
16:47.220: Speaker 2: Yes.
16:48.020: Speaker 1: So I know I have s sung the praises of the Gross Shrink plug in.
16:55.220: Speaker 1: I would hope it is being downloaded more.
16:58.800: Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is one of the ones I'm most proud of, I must say.
17:01.680: Speaker 2: I really like that plug-in.
17:03.759: Speaker 2: The clips on the timeline have got less rounded corners.
17:07.120: Speaker 2: The corners are less rounded.
17:08.319: Speaker 2: And generally the clips in the editor, so they look
17:11.100: Speaker 2: more less well, some people will say less ivory movie like, but of course iMovie's got less rounded clips these days as well.
17:17.659: Speaker 2: So I'm going to go to Show Video Animation.
17:25.620: Speaker 2: I've got some keyframes and I can move the keyframes horizontally, but I don't know.
17:30.180: Speaker 2: Can I copy?
17:36.980: Speaker 2: Paste?
17:38.020: Speaker 2: No, that is that's they copied and pasted the whole clip.
17:40.740: Speaker 2: So I'm just going to go to Philip Hodges' review and find out what he was talking about.
17:45.560: Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed to me he said something about you could select both contiguous and non-contiguous keyframes.
17:55.519: Speaker 1: And then depending on what type of data you're copying, like if it is the if it's an xy coordinate, you could copy that to another
18:05.519: Speaker 1: XY coordinate.
18:06.639: Speaker 1: Obviously, you can't copy an XY coordinate into a rotation coordinate.
18:11.440: Speaker 1: Duh.
18:13.220: Speaker 2: So um yes, so from Philippe Hodgitz review, for a very long standing feature from the earliest days of Final Cut Pro, finally makes it copy and paste multiple keyframes.
18:23.460: Speaker 2: Yeah.
18:24.260: Speaker 2: Hmm.
18:26.019: Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to copy from position and paste it to center.
18:32.340: Speaker 2: That's keyframe values can now be pasted to
18:35.560: Speaker 2: to any cont compatible attribute.
18:37.720: Speaker 2: For example, below I copy position keyframes from a clip animation to the center attribute of the zoom filter.
18:44.520: Speaker 2: Ah, okay.
18:48.000: Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't be using my own one of my own plugins.
18:52.320: Speaker 2: Yeah.
18:53.120: Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna show video animation and I'm going to choose you don't seem to be able to
19:01.800: Speaker 2: Yeah, the method for doing video animation looks the same in terms of on the timeline.
19:06.440: Speaker 2: Right.
19:08.680: Speaker 1: I know one thing that he mentioned was that another feature that had sort of annoyed me and actually
19:15.640: Speaker 1: it it was one of the things that pushed me to using your Grow Shrink plugin was that in the Ken Bernsey effect, it was always ease in, ease out.
19:26.540: Speaker 1: And sometimes you want it to be linear across it, and now linear is an option.
19:31.580: Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
19:32.220: Speaker 2: Yes, I read that.
19:33.660: Speaker 2: So you can.
19:35.179: Speaker 2: do what it's a funny thing is that it's a kind of um that was a typical battle between the I imagine the pro users and the
19:43.600: Speaker 2: Non-pro users, in terms of like non-pro users probably what would don't know about ease in and ease out, they don't know about slowly accelerating and decelerating to justify moves.
19:53.760: Speaker 2: So
19:54.660: Speaker 2: They get good results quite quickly when they move things around.
19:57.380: Speaker 2: But as soon as they actually want a bit of control and it starts moving in weird ways, they're suddenly acting like pros and say, No, no, I want to have control whether I easy more easily or something like that.
20:06.100: Speaker 2: So it's a I imagine it's a
20:08.140: Speaker 2: kind of a general problem, um you know, understandable, you know, yeah, so yeah, no, it it was really interesting.
20:14.300: Speaker 1: I was really proud of the fact that, wow, the ease in and ease out was really nice, and I
20:18.940: Speaker 1: the first time I used it with a client, he's like, Oh no, I want it to go constantly for the whole move of the I was like, Oh, okay.
20:27.660: Speaker 2: He said, Are you crazy?
20:30.860: Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, you know, because for over a decade I'd been doing because, you know, like typically, as your plug-in does.
20:38.040: Speaker 1: you'll start your move before you dissolve to the clip, and you'll end the move at the end of the dissolve of the clip.
20:44.200: Speaker 1: So it's a constant motion all the way through it.
20:48.940: Speaker 1: Which is the way your plugin works, which I still love.
20:52.380: Speaker 1: Oh, well, I haven't said that enough.
20:54.140: Speaker 2: I think I have.
20:55.500: Speaker 2: I think maybe what I'm going to have to do is get my plugins and work out which ones
20:59.900: Speaker 2: Of course, I can still make plugins for File Cut Pro 10.
21:02.140: Speaker 2: 0.
21:02.460: Speaker 2: 9.
21:02.940: Speaker 2: I thought I was going to maybe introduce some 10.
21:05.580: Speaker 2: 1 features in 10.
21:06.460: Speaker 2: 0.
21:06.860: Speaker 2: 9 if necessary.
21:08.460: Speaker 2: But it's a free update.
21:09.660: Speaker 2: That's the weird thing.
21:10.620: Speaker 2: So we I thought
21:12.400: Speaker 2: So there's no real reason not to update it well, maybe there's no real reason to update not to update it 10.
21:17.760: Speaker 2: 0.
21:18.240: Speaker 2: 1.
21:18.720: Speaker 2: 1 once we wait for people like me to go ahead and find all the bugs.
21:22.560: Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll yeah you'll have it figured out by dinner.
21:25.700: Speaker 2: Oh, well, thank you very much.
21:27.620: Speaker 2: By supper.
21:29.620: Speaker 1: Yes.
21:31.940: Speaker 1: I still have no internet connection here.
21:33.620: Speaker 1: It's driving me crazy.
21:35.940: Speaker 2: Oh no, um well um yeah I get to live vicariously through you.
21:44.640: Speaker 1: Besides the rounded corners, is there anything else that looks different in the user interface?
21:50.320: Speaker 2: Well, on the clip on the timeline, I say now I can't quite remember
21:54.000: Speaker 2: It's been so long since I used the previous version, like it's almost 24 hours, so I can't remember what it used to look like.
21:59.280: Speaker 2: But when you look at a clip on the timeline, there's no, it just says the name of the clip, it doesn't have anything stuff around it in terms of controls for showing things like show.
22:08.840: Speaker 2: The video animation and clips and stuff like that.
22:11.799: Speaker 2: So that's a control click now for showing.
22:15.799: Speaker 1: So yeah, so before in the upper left-hand corner of the clip, there were certain things you could click on to make stuff happen.
22:23.120: Speaker 2: Yes, so now you actually have to control click to get to the next one.
22:25.600: Speaker 1: I think another feature that Philip mentioned, which is going to be very well received, but it's going to be one of those things, and I think Philip even said
22:34.419: Speaker 1: I realized I was using a new feature and didn't realize it was a new feature.
22:39.460: Speaker 1: In multicam clips, you can now treat audio
22:43.019: Speaker 1: exactly like the way you you have all the same functionality as you did with a standard clip.
22:47.820: Speaker 1: And that was a feature of ten zero.
22:51.880: Speaker 1: Through 10 909, that was very every once in a while people would go, like, oh, how do I deal with this?
23:00.920: Speaker 1: And it would just drive you crazy.
23:02.520: Speaker 1: And apparently
23:03.640: Speaker 1: Anything you can do with audio in a normal clip, you can now do with a multicam clip, which is a big deal.
23:10.760: Speaker 2: Well, and there's some new training available from Ripple Training.
23:13.880: Speaker 1: I just saw that too.
23:15.500: Speaker 1: That's when I lost my mind.
23:17.740: Speaker 1: It was like, uh, I can't see any of this stuff.
23:22.059: Speaker 1: Still no Internet connection here at the uh at the Slice Editorial Third Story Tower.
23:28.240: Speaker 2: And uh but one of the things that they say the tutorial is using multicam clips for scenes for drama scenes, for single camera scenes.
23:37.280: Speaker 2: So obviously th they can say that now multicam clips are so flexible, you might as well use them when you're editing short reverse shots.
23:42.600: Speaker 2: Or in dramas and stuff like that.
23:44.280: Speaker 2: So they are now as flexible as that, which is an interesting kind of policy.
23:49.400: Speaker 1: Ben Consoli did a whole tutorial about how he uses multi-cam clips in a very kind of unconventional way.
23:57.340: Speaker 1: I will say that I watched the tutorial and I didn't quite understand w why I would want to do it, but I kinda got it.
24:07.820: Speaker 1: And basically what he's doing is he's very much cleaning up his bins by
24:11.940: Speaker 1: putting a lot of things in the multicam clip and options and things like that.
24:18.179: Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna I wonder if I can Yeah.
24:28.360: Speaker 2: I was seeing if it seemed to me that I know that in the XML it is possible to give keywords to projects, but it doesn't seem like there's a straightforward way of doing
24:37.700: Speaker 2: doing that, you know, to give timeline keywords.
24:40.500: Speaker 2: In other words, effectively timeline markers.
24:42.980: Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to be a way of doing timeline markers directly.
24:46.100: Speaker 1: So well, I know I've th you you'll have an answer to this.
24:52.140: Speaker 1: When you export a clip in 10.
24:53.980: Speaker 1: 09, look at that, I'm so British now.
24:57.660: Speaker 1: 10.
24:57.980: Speaker 1: 09.
24:59.720: Speaker 1: it pops up with some keywords that are automatically generated from certain bits of metadata that are being embedded in your export file.
25:10.280: Speaker 2: Yeah.
25:12.120: Speaker 1: It maybe that's where you would install your keywords in the same place where that metadata it must be from one of the extended
25:25.080: Speaker 1: You know, extended metadata window basically.
25:28.120: Speaker 2: Yeah.
25:28.760: Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the attributes of my current untitled project and that
25:34.500: Speaker 2: title, it has those attributes, those XML type attributes of title, description, creator and tags.
25:40.820: Speaker 2: And of course, I can add them there.
25:42.560: Speaker 2: And also when you do export, as you may or may not know, you can t change those values just by clicking them in the export uh dialogue box and change those values directly, including the description.
25:51.760: Speaker 2: You can go in quite a long description there.
25:53.680: Speaker 2: Right.
25:54.080: Speaker 2: So when you so when you're exporting to things like uh
25:57.419: Speaker 2: YouTube.
25:58.140: Speaker 2: You can kind of prepare your YouTube description in quite a lot of detail when choosing export and Final Cut Prayer will put that into onto your YouTube.
26:06.560: Speaker 2: Uh oh, you still there?
26:07.680: Speaker 2: I thought did I lose you?
26:10.480: Speaker 2: Description that appears below the window.
26:13.440: Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:14.800: Speaker 2: So here I am.
26:15.680: Speaker 2: It's kind of strange.
26:17.040: Speaker 2: Yeah, um I can still hear you.
26:18.240: Speaker 2: I don't know if you can still hear me.
26:19.280: Speaker 2: Yeah, I do hear me.
26:20.080: Speaker 2: I do.
26:20.480: Speaker 2: Testing one, two, three, four, five.
26:22.000: Speaker 2: Hello, hello.
26:22.800: Speaker 2: Cool.
26:23.120: Speaker 2: Okay.
26:23.680: Speaker 2: Maybe I should.
26:24.400: Speaker 1: Hello?
26:24.880: Speaker 1: I can hear you still?
26:26.000: Speaker 1: Yep.
26:26.400: Speaker 1: We're good.
26:26.880: Speaker 1: We're good.
26:27.520: Speaker 1: I just I touched something on my phone and uh
26:33.279: Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I don't know where that stuff comes from.
26:38.639: Speaker 1: It's from
26:40.760: Speaker 1: The metadata stuff.
26:42.440: Speaker 1: Well, I got a text message a tweet, I believe, from John Davidson from Magic Feather, and he was asking, Do you want to do a Skype
26:51.460: Speaker 1: you know, Skype call later today, and it is now two fifteen a.
26:56.660: Speaker 1: m.
26:57.300: Speaker 1: California time, which means it's like, uh what is that?
27:00.900: Speaker 1: Like a you're nine hours different than me?
27:03.419: Speaker 2: Eight, so it's quarter past ten in the morning.
27:05.740: Speaker 2: Yeah, in Thursday, yeah.
27:07.740: Speaker 1: Well, um I'm gonna have to do a day's worth of work and some sleep.
27:11.500: Speaker 1: Uh would you be willing to um hook up with John and I uh later tonight for you?
27:18.200: Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
27:19.160: Speaker 1: Fantastic.
27:19.720: Speaker 1: So we'll try and do a communal what you call it?
27:24.920: Speaker 1: What's that thing called?
27:26.920: Speaker 1: I'm going to try Google Plus Hangout because then we can share each other's screens.
27:31.780: Speaker 1: Cool.
27:32.500: Speaker 2: I've never yet tried that yet.
27:34.580: Speaker 2: So go check it out.
27:35.300: Speaker 1: Well, get yourself a Google Plus account if you haven't.
27:38.180: Speaker 1: The screen sharing is actually very cool.
27:40.980: Speaker 1: I've actually done whole edits that way.
27:43.800: Speaker 2: Cool.
27:44.680: Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll research it while you sleep, and then we'll talk sort it out later today.
27:48.920: Speaker 2: All right.
27:49.400: Speaker 2: Thanks, Alex.
27:50.200: Speaker 2: We'll talk more later.
27:51.720: Speaker 2: And despite the fact that Comcast has let you down, your certainly your phone service is pretty damn good because this sounds really clear to me.
27:59.560: Speaker 2: Okay, so so tell me this.
28:01.240: Speaker 1: Do you hear me on this microphone?
28:03.800: Speaker 1: I'm hearing you perfectly clearly.
28:05.740: Speaker 1: But do you not hear the scratching?
28:09.340: Speaker 1: Very faintly.
28:10.540: Speaker 1: Okay, you probably then you're hearing me on this microphone.
28:14.260: Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
28:15.539: Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're actually picking me I my cell phone is twelve inches from my mouth, you know, sitting on the desk
28:25.720: Speaker 1: I think it's enhanced because I'm using headphones.
28:31.400: Speaker 1: Because I I've actually plugged into the headphone jack of the of the mic so that I can record you into uh audition.
28:40.320: Speaker 2: Wow, it sounds perfectly I mean, it sounds slightly you know, it doesn't sound but it sounds perfectly clear.
28:47.120: Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like a it sounds like a radio
28:49.600: Speaker 2: Winter view, let's put it that way.
28:52.600: Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the quality of the interviewing is fantastic.
28:56.919: Speaker 1: Whatever.
28:57.639: Speaker 1: All right, we'll hook up more later.
29:00.279: Speaker 1: Enjoy your day.
29:01.799: Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
29:02.760: Speaker 1: Thanks, Alex.
29:03.480: Speaker 1: Take care.
29:03.960: Speaker 2: Bye-bye.