Episode 85
FCG085 - FCPX on the Road (feat. Dean Sherwood)
Traveling on the road with FCPX can be a lot of fun. Dean Sherwood is the newly dubbed Creative Director for The Vamps and works full time with the band on the road and at home he is also a true “Convergence Artist” meaning, he knew nothing about video production before, as a photographer, he purchased a 5D MK2. With over 200 videos and millions of views Dean has created an immense catalog of content for the band and with the exception of the very first video he did for them, they’ve ALL been created in FCPX.
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Featuring
- Chris Fenwick
- Dean Sherwood - @deansherwood
Transcription
00:00.001: I also added a keyboard shortcut to do hide browser.
00:00.001: What'd I say?
00:00.080: You can have as much pressure on your back as long as you will still work for the same amount of money now.
00:00.160: Surprise, surprise, do a lot of that.
00:00.160: And I pulled it out of my favorites and I go, Hey, what about this one?
00:00.160: There was no front of house, we just used front of house that was used by the main act.
00:00.160: Not every band has a traveling videographer that goes around the world with them.
00:00.160: Yeah, it's a 99.
00:00.160: It's no socialize outside of bands.
00:00.160: Schedule as well.
00:00.160: Well, I'm going to copy those off onto some of my orange drives and just have them in my Pelican in case I in case you ask for 'em or we need 'em.
00:00.160: Because I can tell it's going to revolutionize the way I edit.
00:00.160: Tristan, who's the drummer, he records that through his laptop, through interfaces, because he is also a producer.
00:00.160: So anyway, Dream Gig, Final Cut 10.
00:00.160: The learning curve being so quick, and again, the ripple training has helped me with motion as well.
00:00.160: to make some user interface things.
00:00.160: Well, that's really cool.
00:00.160: You look at a band like U2, you know, and they travel around with the crazy claw stage and they have two of them because they hip hop or they hopscotch cities and you know, there's an enormous amount of video content that is contracted by artists.
00:00.160: I think I actually now edit quicker when I'm not at home.
00:00.160: They they would agree with me probably.
00:00.160: Be released at like 8 o'clock.
00:00.160: I'll try and put that in the show notes.
00:00.160: Because you don't have to tap it very hard.
00:00.160: Follow me at Chris Fenler.
00:00.160: So anyway, it's always interesting to hear about that.
00:00.160: That we mentioned in the show.
00:00.240: So now let's go to the interview with Dean Sherwood, and I want to let you know that a little info that I found out at the end.
00:00.240: was quite interesting and some of the stuff that we had a little bit in common.
00:00.240: I just got final approval on a project that I cut all to premium beat, and it was a song that I'd pulled out of my favorites.
00:00.240: Not everybody needs a sting at the end, but if you want the real sting at the end, you probably want the full song also.
00:00.240: So, there's multiple ways that you can compose your song.
00:00.240: And if you don't, you know, there's other podcasts you can listen to.
00:00.240: And then also you're going to hear about FX Factory in the middle of the interview.
00:00.240: Hello, hello, good morning.
00:00.240: You were very welcome, Chris.
00:00.240: shutter speeds and all that with video.
00:00.240: It's nowhere to be found online, I think, which I'm quite happy with.
00:00.240: there was a firmware upgrade that helped us with a lot of stuff like being able to control the shutter.
00:00.240: Th those weren't good days, were they?
00:00.240: off my own back, doing the photography work that I was hired to do, but then also shooting some video as well.
00:00.240: Now are you working with a band right now?
00:00.240: where people are realizing that there's a huge benefit from being in front of your audience and
00:00.240: at the mixer and talk a sound guy through what's coming up or what the band is supposed to sound like?
00:00.240: It's really good.
00:00.240: the eyes and ears of any kind of fan or groupie, if you will, that wants to feel like they're part of
00:00.240: Hanging out with the band.
00:00.240: And I wanted to try out the new Sony A7S.
00:00.240: unless I'm just screwing around.
00:00.240: Because that's their thing, is they want to be current with everything that is you too.
00:00.240: I wanted to kind of get that, you know, how do you guys go about being a tribute band?
00:00.240: Yeah, it's a lot of time in hotel rooms setting up an edit suite and editing until the very early hours of the morning, sometimes doing a shoot, edit, deliver same day.
00:00.240: Oh, really?
00:00.240: And I have been pretty vocal in the past to say that I think that the Lacie Rugged Drive, it is my experience and I'm interested in hearing yours.
00:00.240: It is a plastic hard drive that's wrapped in rubber, which is an insulator and it doesn't have a fan.
00:00.240: Well, no, I take that back.
00:00.240: Awesome.
00:00.240: but it's far and away the most cost effective way to store a lot of data.
00:00.240: but it's a good way to store a lot of data.
00:00.240: You lazy bastard.
00:00.240: And what you find is that when you off data to those archive drives, they're still usable and you can completely edit off them, especially now with USB 3.
00:00.240: quite often always do it right off of that raw drive as it sits in the little USB three caddy that we have for it.
00:00.240: And then I knew it was there if I needed it.
00:00.240: Well, I just made myself do it because I didn't want to miss anything out.
00:00.240: the professionals that you run into look at it and they still think it's a toy, they still think it's ridiculous.
00:00.240: management said to me, can we get this up as soon as possible in a couple of days?
00:00.240: Because there was a bit of a PA in there, a small PA.
00:00.240: I shoot a lot of autofocus too, but I'm trying to shoot it in focus.
00:00.240: I mean, it is on their website and on their Vimeo channel, but I don't think I'm actually credited.
00:00.240: many times that they are gifted educators, definitely.
00:00.240: In the graphics stuff that you're doing, are you doing like, you know, space age cool video art stuff that actually plays on stage?
00:00.240: Available to you, except, of course, for the fact that it's watermarked because you haven't paid for it.
00:00.240: I would imagine there is a bunch of really great plugins available on FX Factory that you might be able to utilize in the stuff that you're creating.
00:00.240: like line art and dots, and you can put like all the cities that the band is playing in and load those in as a text file, and each one becomes a dot, and it's
00:00.240: Sorry about that.
00:00.240: And you know, Mark makes some great plugins too.
00:00.240: I can't ever complain really doing the job that I'm doing.
00:00.240: Are you able in your position to sort of plan for the future?
00:00.240: We're back in the UK, we're going back to America for a little bit and then we go out to Australia, um, Manila, Japan
00:00.240: the potential of different screen shapes and many screens around the stage and stuff like that.
00:00.240: I'm not just shooting for YouTube, but at the same time, I'm planning and shooting and doing interviews with the boys while we're on the road as well for that.
00:00.240: Yeah, I just think it sounds like a great gig.
00:00.240: just the emotion of capturing something that tends to really speak to young girls.
00:00.240: Yeah, true.
00:00.240: I'm just hanging on.
00:00.240: I like hitting that consolidate button and knowing everything is now safely packaged up in this little library.
00:00.240: I have to pull media out of that that gets used in many but not all uh other t other projects
00:00.240: And I'm actually putting stuff I'm not putting stuff inside the library because there's a huge benefit for using what I've been dubbing and I don't know if Apple has a name for it, but I call it the trim library.
00:00.240: Yeah, exactly.
00:00.240: really quick while I'm in while I'm in ten and just just for simple things like that I'd be nice.
00:00.240: different deliveries.
00:00.240: And this is important when you get into things where you're if you haven't figured this out, and I say this only because I had to explain it to somebody in our office the other day.
00:00.240: to select the next clip to screw with.
00:00.240: And it'll I think it dumps them all into a folder for you, and now you have all your stuff for Instagram.
00:00.240: I realize you're using your little beat speaker, your beat pill.
00:00.240: But the thing that's cool about it is it has this little puck, and it's a round thing, it's about two or three inches in diameter.
00:00.240: That that is one thing I I do miss, being able to listen to music while I do anything.
00:00.240: three of those sets of speakers.
00:00.240: All right.
00:00.240: We did.
00:00.240: I'm going to release or announce my involvement in another podcast.
00:00.320: Two weeks in Spain, just before the tour that we I'm on now with the band I work for.
00:00.320: What was it?
00:00.320: In the sun, chilling out.
00:00.320: I've I sort of I worked with quite a few bands back in the day and there was a band in particular called Feeder who spotted that I had a
00:00.320: So straighten at the deep end, spent the next week testing it out, learning about frames per second and
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: Was the very beginning of now hold on, let me think about this.
00:00.320: You'd crack the lens off, you'd set something, and then you'd put it back into manual and the lens off.
00:00.320: Video being 100% of my work, pretty much.
00:00.320: Not very technically minded, but I sort of learned what I need to know, if you know what I mean, Chris.
00:00.320: Probably.
00:00.320: From that I went to from because I was on a P C then, I went to a Mac and went straight into F C P seven.
00:00.320: Because when you s as you would know, when you sit and look at an editing screen that's quite bright day in, day out, it helps just
00:00.320: Put a lot of a heck of a lot of it up on YouTube.
00:00.320: It was very small.
00:00.320: You know, they're seeing you as being just as critical as, say, the front of house mix guy or the monitor mix man.
00:00.320: Good grief.
00:00.320: stands in and does front of house, so he's got knowledge, he knows how the band should sound and he's good at that as well.
00:00.320: So they're taking front of house to Australia, but but they're not at a stage where they have like a touring uh mix monitor.
00:00.320: I mean, I I know a little bit about doing, you know, rock and roll type sound.
00:00.320: quite often these days in stereo to those four guys, and you have an audience of one or four, if you will.
00:00.320: It is.
00:00.320: And I've done a handful of videos for these guys over the years, and it's usually just me and a couple of other people with 5D Mark IIs or 3s, whatever.
00:00.320: Are you guys already rehearsing?
00:00.320: So I took the A7S and I kind of did.
00:00.320: And it's probably I think it's about a six minute video that I posted for them.
00:00.320: Yeah, no, I'll have a look.
00:00.320: I mean, this this I'm not away for that long at the moment, so I haven't got as much with me because I'm back home in like just over a week's time.
00:00.320: There did not appear to be enough time to copy the media off of that drive to a drive that I would prefer to use.
00:00.320: I just have found those things.
00:00.320: And that was the story where they handed me a Lacedee rugged and it seized up on me.
00:00.320: Yeah, yeah, I'd be the same if it happened to me.
00:00.320: But but see, that thing is made out of metal.
00:00.320: I'm looking.
00:00.320: And basically what I do is I buy raw OEM hard drives, and I use little USB 3 data trays
00:00.320: Do you travel with all thirty two drives?
00:00.320: Yeah, exactly.
00:00.320: bought the whole whole ripple training pack and I learnt it from lesson one all the way through and just
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: 'Cause you know, I shoot a lot of stuff and it's fly on the wall stuff as well.
00:00.320: was just incredible.
00:00.320: They went through it many, many times.
00:00.320: That it cut together quite well.
00:00.320: Yeah, definitely.
00:00.320: Very cool.
00:00.320: do a multi-cam shoot.
00:00.320: a a cover of a song for YouTube.
00:00.320: He'll go away and he'll work on it.
00:00.320: Do they lip sync it to their first take?
00:00.320: you know, and play day in, day out.
00:00.320: Right.
00:00.320: Mark's not just a genius, but they're and Steve, they're great at just presenting.
00:00.320: And I think one of the coolest features of FX Factory is that you can download any plugin you want and play with it full featured with every option
00:00.320: FX Factory is one of the sponsors of this show.
00:00.320: But Nodes 2.
00:00.320: It's really kind of blows your mind.
00:00.320: I haven't but I haven't been shown a wage rise just yet.
00:00.320: to do that kind of stuff.
00:00.320: nine, ten thousand up to eighteen to twenty thousand planned for April, May of next year.
00:00.320: you know, if I haven't got a Mac, what can I use?
00:00.320: if there's any.
00:00.320: That young teen girls are very fascinated with photography and, you know, by extension, you know, video video work.
00:00.320: And it there's something about I think women tend to be more creative than men.
00:00.320: Young men tend to be, you know, playing video games and blowing things up.
00:00.320: Yeah, definitely.
00:00.320: Okay, cool.
00:00.320: Yes.
00:00.320: But what heart what computer are you just traveling with a laptop or what are you doing?
00:00.320: Intuous medium, pro medium.
00:00.320: I would be the guy that the tour manager or the bus driver looked at and rolled his eyes all the time.
00:00.320: Yes.
00:00.320: Because it doesn't go in anything else and I and it's clumbersome to try and carry.
00:00.320: think uh I'm gonna I'm gonna preface what I'm about to say in that I may have added a keyboard shortcut to this.
00:00.320: A couple months ago.
00:00.320: And just so there's parity among all the Final Cut 10 listeners, I've actually mapped that to Command Option Command Control Option.
00:00.320: And then you run this script, it will export a frame at each one of those markers.
00:00.320: Very cool.
00:00.320: So if while you were grading you wanted to, God forbid, listen to something other than the vamps, you could plug that in on an iPod or your iPhone and plug it in and that be it actually ends up being a little mixer also.
00:00.320: Yeah, so the these bow speakers, I mean, they're about, you know, eight or nine inches tall.
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: Packable.
00:00.320: No, I'm totally kidding.
00:00.320: You know, if you don't do that, it's an interesting world.
00:00.320: And I love talking to other road dogs, and you hear what's in their gig box and how they set up.
00:00.320: And I got to say, I'm a little nervous to share my little my little U2 tribute band.
00:00.320: I'm a participant.
00:00.320: Except for when I laugh out loud off microphone.
00:00.400: Probably work best with the actual song too.
00:00.400: listened to about probably about sixty of the FCPX krills.
00:00.400: Okay, so I started off as a as a photographer, a music photographer, and I
00:00.400: Customer.
00:00.400: The the 0.
00:00.400: Simple things.
00:00.400: it's and the whole crew as well, it's just one big family.
00:00.400: Oh, really?
00:00.400: all their only job is to mix for the artists.
00:00.400: Sure.
00:00.400: Ah, yeah.
00:00.400: Is it the orange the orange rugged has the cable built in?
00:00.400: Yeah.
00:00.400: Wow.
00:00.400: are not planned in any way.
00:00.400: Quick grade, sent to be checked.
00:00.400: So and it was fun.
00:00.400: Did the label have any indication of how quick the turnaround was?
00:00.400: So the quick turnaround, it in di I think what I was getting at, did that impress the label?
00:00.400: throughout the show.
00:00.400: but all sorts of stuff like that.
00:00.400: Sure.
00:00.400: Okay.
00:00.400: You know, supporting what we're doing here.
00:00.400: Well, for you know, who knows?
00:00.400: You know, going to help.
00:00.400: fourteen camera live DVD, which I'm directing.
00:00.400: Because the band says we want to retrospect certain things.
00:00.400: Um, I did yeah, apart from the first video that I did with them, which was on seven.
00:00.400: the library functions now in your exercises of pulling things out of old projects?
00:00.400: Packets to weigh in each.
00:00.400: I talked to somebody the other night, they called it a lean library because it's alliteration.
00:00.400: as well as an edit suite, so to speak, then it I wouldn't have enough hands, basically.
00:00.400: Yeah, you're doing it very, very trimmed down, very lean.
00:00.400: exposure control, saturation and color panels, panes open at the same time and have the scopes up
00:00.400: Oh, yeah, I'm looking at that now.
00:00.400: The downside is, if I ever want to reference final cut, I have to walk away from the microphone like this.
00:00.400: Well, if you put the bug on fer before you grade, what ends up happening is you have to now physically select the clip that's below the bug layer.
00:00.400: in order to grade it.
00:00.400: footage to the guys.
00:00.400: Love seeing those guys play, but my diminutive little video that I made for them.
00:00.480: So having the podcast on was a cure for that.
00:00.480: Jack all about the whole Vegas thing.
00:00.480: stuck with seven.
00:00.480: and some other bit.
00:00.480: And I just follow them around and either put it on YouTube or shoot for D V D's.
00:00.480: Personally, because I think when the band feels they sound good, they actually will sound better.
00:00.480: It's great fun.
00:00.480: You know, and I just find like I have on occasion gone on the road and somebody has handed me a drive with a bunch of media and they say, go, go, go, cut, cut, cut.
00:00.480: I've got around thirty of these drives at home, I think.
00:00.480: you know, early on in the boys' career.
00:00.480: That's cool.
00:00.480: to learn new things.
00:00.480: videos that I output, management have recently said that they're going to take the cap of videographer off me and just call me the creative director now.
00:00.480: Mainly girls that follow again because of the band that are talking to me about editing and
00:00.480: But you could certainly duplicate your library.
00:00.480: um libraries and sort of bringing them back in and consolidating and things like that and checking everything's in place, which I'm actually it sounds really geeky, but I'm really enjoying.
00:00.480: So I have both, and I have shortcuts on both that I know and that from doing this so often on the road
00:00.480: Just a second display.
00:00.480: Sometimes I wish it was there because I have like the guys will come to my room to watch an edit, and one of them will start speaking or something.
00:00.480: And it is, I believe it is Command Shift One.
00:00.480: Will by default be controlling the top layer, I'll call it.
00:00.480: Of your stack of visual effects.
00:00.480: I'd like I think I'd like to be able to batch export still images because I send a lot of stills from
00:00.480: and you put that on the table in front of your keyboard, and it is the volume control for the speakers.
00:00.560: The shorts are written to be 15, 30, and 60 seconds long, and they all end a little, I will say oftentimes they end a little bit different.
00:00.560: well, the lead singer Grant knew a little bit about cameras, and he noticed I had a 5D Mark II, so he asked if I could shoot a promo video for them.
00:00.560: Oh, really?
00:00.560: And we did five weeks out there.
00:00.560: Most of it is sort of documentary, fly on the wall kind of stuff.
00:00.560: And there's a whole religion about that that I don't really get into because nothing I do is I necessarily want to get at more than 10 years later.
00:00.560: and what sort of videos are expected while I'm away, because I tell them, you know, I can't really take a hundred terabytes of footage with me everywhere we go.
00:00.560: You said at 10.
00:00.560: Yeah, there was no looking.
00:00.560: So, I have a question for you.
00:00.560: in what I'm doing is quite different.
00:00.560: you know, comfort in expressing that that I think young boys aren't at yet.
00:00.560: At any rate, but 10.
00:00.560: You know, when I travel, I'm usually going to be in a room for a week.
00:00.560: I have I have little, you know, some Bose speakers that I got at like Best Buy for my speakers and
00:00.560: That was that was once that was it, that's the case for me.
00:00.560: And it's a great episode.
00:00.560: So, anyway, those are a couple free little tips.
00:00.640: Dean had just finished a full day of work and it was like one o'clock in the morning and he still has to work the next day also.
00:00.640: Tour manager and one other tech guy.
00:00.640: Basically, the thing seized up on me.
00:00.640: Not just all being great, so I just keep using them.
00:00.640: Oh yeah, I'm seeing it.
00:00.640: You potentially can, yeah.
00:00.640: If you go to my website, ChrisFennwick.
00:00.640: The other thing that you could consider doing, you've had good luck with the thirty two Samod drives that you have at home.
00:00.640: all stored in the on a shelf.
00:00.640: This episode.
00:00.640: So it was around about Christmas time, I think twenty twelve, where I had like three weeks where I didn't have any video shooting or anything to cut.
00:00.640: I th I think the two well, the two very key things were being able to skim through all my clips.
00:00.640: Yeah.
00:00.640: and then we come back and do some stuff in Europe, and then I don't know where we go from there.
00:00.640: ninety percent sure because of the band.
00:00.640: So have you um clued into all the benefits of being able to use the um
00:00.640: And we do it actually we're doing it across the network, multiple machines, multiple rooms.
00:00.640: And I travel with an iMac and a second display.
00:00.640: Yeah.
00:00.640: I d I just feel very limited with the way that the display looks.
00:00.640: If you hit Command seven, boom, you get your scopes up.
00:00.640: That by default, when you play and go to the next edit in your timeline, the color controls
00:00.640: Control.
00:00.640: We've had our first show in Glasgow.
00:00.720: I've got four with me at the moment.
00:00.720: the next Tron by one of the guitar techs, which which I've taken as a big convolution.
00:00.720: We've become emotional souls.
00:00.720: I'm not while I edit, and then I will consolidate everything into it after.
00:00.720: I'm not.
00:00.800: Yeah.
00:00.800: In a big rock show, there's one guy that mixes for the audience and another guy that mixes for all of the either monitor wedges that are on the stage, or nowadays everybody's doing the little inn-ear monitor things.
00:00.800: some friends of mine who have a they have a a YouTube tribute band here in San Francisco called Zoo Station
00:00.800: In the office.
00:00.800: Well, souped up from Apple, it's like a top spec.
00:00.800: I've been lucky so far on this tour.
00:00.800: It's a pretty comfy little suite, but it's a lot more, you know, it's I would be
00:00.800: For a second, I thought you were saying you wanted to be able to turn it down so you can get their valuable input.
00:00.800: I'm a big cool idea of having the controls like is aces.
00:00.800: Well, take care.
00:00.880: Episode 72.
00:00.880: But especially if it's a band that you enjoy, I can imagine that just being a dream gig.
00:00.880: The lazy, rugged, two terabyte Thunderbolt drives, which I'm not a fan of those.
00:00.880: And I have a piece of software that I use to scan all those drives, so it's all in a database and all searchable and findable.
00:00.880: And then backup, of course, is multiple copies in multiple locations.
00:00.880: It helped, you could say, in the presentation of the band to the record label that they've actually signed to.
00:00.880: In this industry.
00:00.880: It's really interesting.
00:00.880: And quite often, I'm as a matter of fact, as soon as I'm done with this interview, I'm going to have to go draw some stuff out of it, we will pull
00:00.880: a little bit more room.
00:00.880: And I'm on my own all the time.
00:00.880: Um does it have to be one?
00:00.880: Zach Arnold.
00:00.880: Anyway, that's enough of Chris Fenwick's gearbox.
00:00.880: On Twitter I'm at Dean Sherwood.
00:00.960: There's four guys in the band and a total of three management, if you count the tour manager.
00:00.960: Well, I looked at it and I thought, oh, this is cool.
00:00.960: And what it ends up costing me is approximately I think a three terabyte drive now is like $110 or something.
00:00.960: Yeah, I have on many occasions recommended the Ripple Training training stuff.
00:00.960: And then they'll lip sync.
00:00.960: it's a learning curve and it's constantly very fast, which is great fun.
00:00.960: But, you know, it's it's really interesting how into what I do they actually are.
00:00.960: partly because of Ten One two, gotten over a big hump that we had where we have our own stock library for one of our clients.
00:00.960: Yeah.
00:00.960: I bought my suitcase to hive my clothes in.
00:01.040: in front of sort of twenty of the head people at Mercury Records to watch.
00:01.040: So if there's an error with sync in somewhere, then I've always got something that I can just cover it up with.
00:01.040: And there's one plugin in there, and I've mentioned it before on the show, and it's called Nodes, Nodes 2.
00:01.040: And I got to tell you, for a guy who was a photographer a couple of years ago, it might be a little daunting, but because it's and I only say that because I've been doing this stuff for thirty years and it blows my mind.
00:01.040: I don't know how I'm going to pan out in the plans for that, but I'm sure I'm going to be involved heavily.
00:01.040: At which I know a lot of people ask for, and that's the audio mixer with a like a master fader.
00:01.040: Basically, all three of the modifiers and the number one.
00:01.040: But on an iMac, it's kind of a pain to get at that headphone jack.
00:01.120: You're the guy who like woke up one day and went, Oh, wow, I can make videos with this thing.
00:01.120: They work very hard at their job.
00:01.120: So, so that's amazing.
00:01.120: Well, I'll give you I'll throw this out, and I only say this because it's what I've been doing for like the last seven or eight years.
00:01.120: So it's one hundred and ten bucks for three terabytes.
00:01.120: That sounds great, Chris Hol.
00:01.120: Well, the transition at first was pretty slow because I was so busy with work and I just didn't have time.
00:01.120: At massively high pressure, but I I'd sort of played around and I knew that it was capable of doing what I needed it to do.
00:01.120: I was back in my room because I was living in London at the time by about half past six and it needed to be uploaded by eight PM.
00:01.120: So now you're the band's creative director.
00:01.120: You are how do you see Final Cut 10 working in these future things that you're doing?
00:01.120: I think you caught it in one word in that statement there, Chris, and that's emotion.
00:01.120: And then that file is very easy to copy across the network and open remotely.
00:01.120: All right, so we got that licked.
00:01.200: So, Dean, welcome to the show.
00:01.200: So it's around that time.
00:01.200: for our trip to Australia in January for some tour dates out there, that we will be taking a front of house mix, and I was already down
00:01.200: So I I mean, in terms of the media that I store, I at the moment have
00:01.200: Yeah, I m my experience, and you know, I gotta say, I'm not against Lesie.
00:01.200: Yes, Nodes I think it's called Nodes 2.
00:01.280: I feel very guilty for monopolizing your holiday.
00:01.280: MPEG stream clip, I think.
00:01.280: Yeah.
00:01.280: It's not interesting.
00:01.280: And so it actually works really good.
00:01.280: It's just so buttery, smooth and fast.
00:01.280: Well, I'll definitely be tweeting about this.
00:01.280: That when I did the BMW tour a couple of summers ago, it was the same thing.
00:01.280: Command option control one.
00:01.280: They're very packable.
00:01.360: Exactly.
00:01.360: 3 sort of version.
00:01.360: Right, right.
00:01.360: Yeah, that's really cool.
00:01.360: I'm not a fan.
00:01.360: Well, we're you know, we've got an arena tour, which is to to you guys that's venues ranging from sort of
00:01.360: I travel with because I I literally don't have room with everything else, unfortunately.
00:01.440: I I actually liked the look.
00:01.440: It's for going.
00:01.440: 03 you got Final Cut 10.
00:01.440: That's very true.
00:01.440: Basically just sit on there.
00:01.520: I was quite busy at the time and I can remember sort of just playing with it and thinking, oh, this magnetic timeline is kind of funky, it's kind of cool.
00:01.520: I think that was the first thing that I noticed that stood out for me.
00:01.520: You know, sorry, what am I trying to say?
00:01.520: 9% of the world.
00:01.520: They don't expect to have a video shot on it to be ready the next day.
00:01.520: Okay, that's a good one, because the last sort of week it has definitely pushed me because I've also been creating screen graphics to go
00:01.520: I will tell you this.
00:01.520: So are you I'm assuming you're updating your software and you're at ten point one point three now?
00:01.520: Dean, thanks a lot.
00:01.600: Welcome to another episode of Final Good Grill.
00:01.600: Yeah.
00:01.600: Two years ago, I was on the road for a couple of weeks doing a little bit like what you're doing, but I was following cars around instead of rock and rollers.
00:01.600: Video training I have ever purchased.
00:01.600: Otherwise, you're just grading the bug, which is stupid.
00:01.600: They'll push them out from 3 in the afternoon or something like that.
00:01.600: I ended up great because I have a g actually got a problem with what I'm using at the moment and that's that I can't charge it at the same time as I use it because it creates a buzz.
00:01.680: So there was the band, there was two members of management.
00:01.680: Yeah, exactly.
00:01.680: So like last week, I called them up and I said, hey, you know, YouTube just released this new album.
00:01.680: Yeah, exactly.
00:01.680: Yeah, no, so my method is using these raw drives.
00:01.680: And we quite often have to access old projects and do a fix or a repair or an update.
00:01.680: Well, you know, it it meant that I came as part of the deal.
00:01.680: 1.
00:01.680: So Dean, let me ask you the last question I ask everybody.
00:01.680: So, thanks again for listening.
00:01.760: Which I was on from that day until until um I think I I got F C P X at around ten point
00:01.760: But I would I look at doing stuff like that, and obviously, I think I would probably get better if I touched cameras more often.
00:01.760: homebound.
00:01.760: Gotcha.
00:01.760: 0 is a really cool plug-in that really easily creates all kinds of cool
00:01.760: I mean, how are the vamps using video now?
00:01.760: Hold on a second.
00:01.760: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
00:01.760: Yeah.
00:01.760: So that will be and I promise you, it will be something totally different than anything you've ever heard from Chris Fenwick.
00:01.840: Because back then everything was just white.
00:01.840: Yeah.
00:01.840: Then he'll send me the master, and by that point, I'm ready to just drop it in.
00:01.920: And that's when you could only shoot thirty frames per second and you probably wanted to do twenty five based on your crazy accent that you have.
00:01.920: So I guess um I think it ha the
00:01.920: 2 was a critical juncture for us, all of us that have multiple libraries and multiple projects that we want to draw from.
00:01.920: No, I mean, I like the idea of consolidating.
00:01.920: So hold on.
00:02.000: You're a sick bastard, no.
00:02.000: I can imagine.
00:02.000: And Final Cut Ten just I just clicked with it straight away and it just it just felt easy.
00:02.000: So I'm going to take an opportunity here and just kind of wiggle in a little plug.
00:02.000: So, enough of the commercial.
00:02.000: It's very tidy.
00:02.080: So give me a time frame.
00:02.080: Yeah, I can remember that.
00:02.080: Yeah, exactly.
00:02.080: It's actually a pain in the ass.
00:02.080: So when did you make the now let's talk about Final Cat 10.
00:02.080: Are you do you have any other people running camera for you?
00:02.080: So that would be like your bins or something?
00:02.080: So, if I don't get a couple thousand followers out of this, I'm going to be really upset for wasting the last hour.
00:02.160: That does look kind of dumb.
00:02.160: The piece that I did with the with the YouTube cover band, since they were rehearsing this new song
00:02.160: Maybe I mean, okay, let's go to the very extreme end of this the scale, right?
00:02.160: I've always thought that would be a fun job.
00:02.160: Can that person phone in now, please?
00:02.160: And if that kind of bored you, I apologize for that.
00:02.240: And he said to me, He goes, Hey man, I got my first premium beat, Loop Pack, and the ending isn't the same as the actual song.
00:02.240: And I think we got off on the whole tangent about hard drives.
00:02.240: It was great chatting with you.
00:02.320: I got it as soon as it came out.
00:02.320: So what gear are you actually traveling with?
00:02.320: I can even remember showing the boys in the band this new editing software I'd got, and they were even interested.
00:02.320: And then the other thing that's nice is it has a headphone jack on it.
00:02.400: So although the new new ones got the cable built in, which I'm not overly keen on.
00:02.400: And being able to skim through my clips is fantastic to just not take my hands off the keyboard and favorite clips, keyword clips
00:02.400: I know that I've done a lot of very, very widescreen videos, and some of them actually in Final Cut, because you can do it's resolution independent now.
00:02.400: How do I get even just a small percentage of your 107,000 Twitter followers?
00:02.400: I will tell you, at least in my experience, it's a no-brainer.
00:02.400: I don't have an assistant.
00:02.400: We've got another one tomorrow.
00:02.480: I am just the video guy.
00:02.480: I listened to it actually.
00:02.480: You do have to carry a little wall wart and a power cable for them.
00:02.560: And I knew a little bit about what he did, but through this interview, as is the case, I started discovering more and more that
00:02.560: I actually knew they would be.
00:02.560: Now I will say I have not used um with uh Final Cut 10 just because I've
00:02.560: It's just me on my own, so I just you know, we just run through it a few times.
00:02.560: But I I think it at least in the United States, I think it's very interesting that it would appear and I'm I realize I'm saying a gross generalization, but it would appear
00:02.560: Do you go HDMI out of the retina into that?
00:02.560: Are you saying you want to turn up the audio so you don't have to hear them talking behind you?
00:02.640: It was perfect.
00:02.640: You were already slated to go to Australia, and you're just the video.
00:02.640: com, there's no money to be made there, but and just search for the word cheap, you will find a two-part tutorial about how I store data.
00:02.640: And I always tell people that those three things are totally different, storage, backup and archive.
00:02.640: But I think within about two lessons I was like inside, this is great, and this is, you know, this is my future.
00:02.640: And I just put a Zoom audio recorder in the rehearsal hall where I thought it would get the best balance of kind of the overall sound of the band.
00:02.640: So you might want to check that out.
00:02.640: I've only had one hotel so far where I haven't been able to hook up to the T V and just use that as an extra sort of spare.
00:02.720: Is that the job?
00:02.720: As long as you get along fine with the four guys in the band and the three managers and the sound tech, yeah, you're good.
00:02.720: I couldn't copy, I couldn't save.
00:02.720: It's made it's actually inside of a physical heat sink, so it dissipates the heat better, and it has a fan.
00:02.720: Well, now actually so you're getting into something and we didn't discuss what we were going to talk about today, but this is I'm always interested in how people work on the road.
00:02.720: So I have to acc I have to be able to access everything.
00:02.720: But, you know, if you've got if you've shot six or seven angles, then there's always going to be someone and I always shoot a bunch of cutaways as well, just in case it's back up
00:02.720: They know they're a pain in the bum.
00:02.720: Even on my laptop, that looks good.
00:02.800: But yeah, I'm full time.
00:02.800: I mean, yeah, I think you've nailed it on the host air.
00:02.800: No, but at home, you say you had like thirty one?
00:02.800: No, no, no.
00:02.800: And so I would do one take, and I kind of favored the guitarist, and I did another take, and I kind of favored the drummer.
00:02.800: And it it's really mind blowing.
00:02.880: Okay, so that's quite interesting.
00:02.880: They're very clever.
00:02.880: Why not?
00:02.880: And I could probably still benefit from some of it.
00:02.880: We'll be looking.
00:02.880: This is our Monday episode.
00:02.960: I want to thank the people at PremiumBeat.
00:02.960: Did you have to do any trends coding with that?
00:02.960: I know a lot of people didn't, but I actually liked the way it looked.
00:02.960: I've written that down in my notes.
00:02.960: Um w in what ways has your journey of learning the software been pushed by the type of work that you're doing?
00:02.960: So I've also been learning motion.
00:02.960: Uh-huh.
00:02.960: For their Instagrams and things like that.
00:02.960: So, anyway, that might be this week, might be soon.
00:03.040: Adam, I hope your piece came out great.
00:03.040: But that being said, I actually copied the media off of the Le C Rugged to a Le C um it's called the Little Big Disc, which was Thunderbolt.
00:03.040: I wouldn't leave the T V to grade on or anything.
00:03.120: It's like a workflow tip, isn't it?
00:03.200: And so, anyway, we just got approval on that, and I was totally stoked.
00:03.200: And then shot this promo and I really enjoyed it.
00:03.200: In two years now, I've worked with the band.
00:03.200: What you could do is say, oh, so you want to access these five different events or things.
00:03.200: Anything else?
00:03.280: Okay.
00:03.280: I want my cable's there so I can you know, I don't it's easy to pack, it's all neat, it's tidy.
00:03.280: Right.
00:03.280: Definitely, yeah, yeah, definitely.
00:03.280: Sorry.
00:03.280: Just tell them, get a Mac.
00:03.280: Yeah, exactly.
00:03.360: Or do you have sync issues?
00:03.360: And I'm a huge fan of FX Factory.
00:03.360: That's a pretty good testimonial.
00:03.360: Sorry, Zach.
00:03.440: Yeah, you may have seen a tutorial that I did about it.
00:03.440: I am.
00:03.440: So it's I'm lucky to be doing what I'm doing.
00:03.440: That looks nice.
00:03.520: That was a good transition.
00:03.520: Maybe I would love to have you watch what I did and laugh at it because I really suck at camera work.
00:03.520: You know what, that is really important.
00:03.520: I mean, I think it's quite interesting because there you know, I've got that many followers
00:03.520: I think.
00:03.520: Yeah, it was fun, Chris.
00:03.600: My name is Chris Fenwick, and I hope you know that by now, good grief.
00:03.600: It was perfect.
00:03.600: What year was this that or when was that?
00:03.600: So it's not like I I am shooting set scenes all day long.
00:03.600: So do you have to do do you have to get it down to the point where it's one load from your room down to the bus?
00:03.600: How far away did you put that shortcut, Chris?
00:03.600: It's the one with this.
00:03.600: A friend of mine, Steve Miller, does it all the time, and I love, you know, Steve was on this show talking about Premiere several months ago.
00:03.680: Alright, so that was a really bad time to be dealing with the video because the
00:03.680: Well, I mean, you could have complained, but it might be a career-limiting move.
00:03.680: Yeah, I mean, we all are we all do become that and we all are that.
00:03.680: Yeah.
00:03.760: That was a pain in the butt.
00:03.760: I'm full time working with a band called The Vamps.
00:03.760: And then and then you could actually recycle the ones you have instead of buying new ones all the time.
00:03.760: Okay, so let's all do that together.
00:03.760: And what that does is it takes all of your library and your browser and it hides it.
00:03.840: And typically, it is if you got four guys in the band, it's going to be four separate mixes
00:03.840: It's all searchable.
00:03.840: It s makes it nice and easy.
00:03.840: If I can get my tripod in there, then I'm happy.
00:03.840: Okay, so this is important because on one of our projects we do, the client wants us to put their bug in the lower right-hand corner of the whole thing.
00:03.920: So I want to hear more about the bands.
00:03.920: Very you know, the guys they have like full stereo sound as well.
00:03.920: So and I and I'm horrible.
00:03.920: So when they do their tribute shows, they look and sound just like the band.
00:03.920: It's very, very long hours.
00:03.920: Uh-huh.
00:03.920: Yep, fine, great.
00:03.920: Yes, as trimmed down as I can be.
00:04.000: So this I you're gonna I hope you like this.
00:04.000: So my job basically is to film everything they do.
00:04.000: I forgot your name there for a second.
00:04.000: How do people find you, Good Grief?
00:04.080: No, the 5D Mark II came out in the end of 2008, like October, November.
00:04.080: Uh yeah, apparently so.
00:04.080: Is there any growth potential?
00:04.080: You know, some of these girls are like fourteen, fifteen years old as well, so to for them to be interested in
00:04.080: I just saw that one of those in the store the other day.
00:04.080: Yeah, nice and simple, just my name basically.
00:04.160: So yeah, I mean, I went on from that and there I already had quite a few contacts, so I just started
00:04.160: Yeah, no, I get it.
00:04.160: I'm assuming you're rehearsing some of the new songs for your next gig.
00:04.160: No, I would not be a fan.
00:04.160: Another pally case.
00:04.160: I'm now going to absolutely alienate all female listeners.
00:04.160: Sounds good, Chris.
00:04.160: Well, in that regard, please, everybody, give Dean a round of applause for staying on late after working.
00:04.160: We'll be back on Friday with another episode.
00:04.240: It was quite basic.
00:04.240: Because that's what how it had always been when I was editing in seven.
00:04.240: And since they did the song many times and they actually play it with a click track.
00:04.240: Could be a couple.
00:04.240: Isn't that nice?
00:04.320: Stage monitors.
00:04.320: On this episode, data storage
00:04.400: Now, that's not to say you can't use the loops alone.
00:04.400: I was so committed to making this my future workflow going into 2013, I think.
00:04.400: It's quite a wide range of varying
00:04.400: I just know that we have recently, and I'm going to have to do a tutorial about this, but we have recently
00:04.400: Yes.
00:04.400: Thanks for coming.
00:04.480: 'Cause I get really bored.
00:04.480: No, I know it's great.
00:04.480: Oh, that's stupid.
00:04.480: You mentioned that quite often you are referring to old projects and old footage.
00:04.480: If you could sneak in the back door at Apple and talk them into building you one feature in Final Cut X, what would you have them make you?
00:04.480: Is it the one about stand-up desks?
00:04.560: And I even go through like what boxes you want to buy to put the drives in and how to store them and stuff like that.
00:04.560: And actually, I don't know.
00:04.640: There's also a lot of covers that they do of other bands' songs.
00:04.640: And like you, I didn't actually go through all of it, but I got over that first little hump
00:04.640: Make us look cool.
00:04.640: I'm more used to editing on a little desk, on a horrible chair
00:04.640: Anyway, that's it.
00:04.720: So, Dean, tell me a little bit about the work you do with this band.
00:04.720: Yeah, it's great.
00:04.720: And I just want to say thank you to FX Factory for
00:04.720: And there's something about the
00:04.720: But I also add it on a trackpad as well because I never know what the desk size is going to be.
00:04.720: You can't put it under your arm.
00:04.720: Um I think as well I'd quite like 'cause especially when I'm at home, I edit on two screens at least.
00:04.720: I don't know what the plug-in is, but somebody has a plug-in where it will, if you just put a series of markers in your timeline.
00:04.800: So that's like a triple threat of heat buildup.
00:04.800: I've got like thirty two, I think.
00:04.800: I'm very I I plan with management before we go anywhere as to what is what is going to be needed.
00:04.800: Are you just doing lock offs or GoPros?
00:04.800: Even if it means that there's potentially a lot of libraries that have got the same music and stuff like that at the moment, everything's just
00:04.800: And so hide browser will also hide the libraries, and that's when you actually have to add.
00:04.800: What's that?
00:04.880: Hello, Chris.
00:04.880: Yeah, I liked the look of it, but
00:04.880: Well, I think this is quite possibly this is something that's sort of, I don't know, maybe a little bit of a new economy type thing.
00:04.880: Oh, totally.
00:04.880: Yes, I've got a Retina fifteen inch, which is souped up.
00:04.880: How are you using it?
00:04.880: Right.
00:04.960: And they actually put it on their Vimeo channel.
00:04.960: Were they impressed?
00:04.960: You know, Mark Spencer is a genius, yeah, incredible.
00:04.960: It sounds very good.
00:04.960: So I always tell the the other editors, I go, look, don't put that on until the very end because this way you don't actually have to reach down and select the clip that you want to adjust.
00:05.040: But again, another Final Cut user really utilizing Final the Multicam editor.
00:05.120: So you're what um I used to do a show with Carl Olson called the Digital Convergence Podcast.
00:05.120: It's not backing up and it's not archiving.
00:05.120: But once you decide you want to buy it, all everything that you've done so far, those watermarks just magically disappear.
00:05.120: Oh, and I'm planning for on the 5th of October, we are shooting a
00:05.120: But at the same time, there's there's more and more
00:05.120: I call that the right hand column.
00:05.120: And I typically, you know, call down to the front desk and I ask them to send me up a six-foot banquet table.
00:05.120: Yeah, totally.
00:05.200: And there used to be that trick.
00:05.200: When you guys did the five weeks, I think you said five or six weeks in the U.
00:05.200: And if I were in a band, I would travel with the monitor mixer before I did front of house.
00:05.200: Oh, very cool.
00:05.200: Well, I have actually and I have two edit suites in there.
00:05.200: Hey, Dean, thanks for doing this.
00:05.280: com for supporting this show and everything that we're doing.
00:05.280: It was absolutely horrible.
00:05.280: Or could you just take your H.
00:05.280: Yeah, exactly.
00:05.280: There's over 200 videos on their YouTube channel
00:05.280: Yeah.
00:05.280: Because you're obviously generating a lot of media also.
00:05.280: A lot of the time we do look backs at
00:05.280: Yes, they do.
00:05.280: So check that out.
00:05.280: Value anything you want as long as you still work for the same amount of money.
00:05.280: And what you end up with is a really trimmed down user interface while you're grading.
00:05.280: Hide browser, command option
00:05.280: Take care.
00:05.360: As is the case, it just sort of came up.
00:05.360: I know this is not a very cohesive interview.
00:05.360: But also also for outputs as well for
00:05.360: Oh, I was going to say about your volume thing.
00:05.440: It did nothing.
00:05.440: I currently have about at the place I work, we have I think one hundred and thirty of these drives.
00:05.440: Yeah, exactly.
00:05.440: It's very inexpensive.
00:05.440: What was the what was the transition like?
00:05.440: So yeah, I guess um in the sense of how it's pushed me
00:05.440: I mean, I I have like a beats pill for the speaker and sound, but they're they're small as well.
00:05.440: And he talks he talks about fitness in post.
00:05.440: That is nice.
00:05.440: Good idea.
00:05.440: So I'm a little weird about sharing that because I'm not a camera operator, and you'll all get a good laugh out of that.
00:05.520: I get fidgety and I can't.
00:05.520: Yeah, Joe, who is their sort of day to day manager, he often
00:05.520: At the end of the day.
00:05.520: It was uploaded onto YouTube that night, and then the next day it was presented to their future record label.
00:05.520: Yeah.
00:05.520: It's it's it's good fun.
00:05.520: It's very easy, step one, get a Mac.
00:05.520: Interesting.
00:05.520: Yeah, exactly.
00:05.520: Get some sleep.
00:05.600: So I just sat day after day just listening.
00:05.600: So so was it holiday or was it work?
00:05.600: It is like even Mark Spencer, he said to me, he goes, Oh, yeah, that piece of software blows me away.
00:05.600: So that's something else that I shouldn't forget about, which I just did.
00:05.600: I think young girls have it, and I don't think young boys generally do.
00:05.600: Yeah, I'd just put all my events.
00:05.600: So you wanted the audio mixer and you said you had another one.
00:05.680: Ironically, when Final Cut Classic came out in 1998, 99, whatever, it was considered a dark interface.
00:05.680: So we sort of borrowed him for our set.
00:05.680: Sure.
00:05.680: So that helps.
00:05.680: Multicalm is key to me.
00:05.680: What do you think?
00:05.680: How do you see it growing?
00:05.680: But the trim library means that it's only going to be a few megabytes, maybe 40 or 50, on a really big project.
00:05.680: I could just barely get my stuff from the room to the bus in one load.
00:05.680: Yeah, and it actually saves you a lot of time when you're not actually reaching into the timeline.
00:05.680: But for some of the features that it gives you, it's actually quite a nice little setup.
00:05.680: I don't say little because they're little, they're actually awesome.
00:05.760: Very cool.
00:05.760: They've just started sending them out now with the cable built in.
00:05.760: I don't want to tell you to do that, but I would totally do it.
00:05.760: The main criteria for buying the case was can I fit my tripod in it.
00:05.760: Yeah, no, no, no.
00:05.760: Can that f person phone in now, please?
00:05.840: And the people from Premium Beat, thank you through me.
00:05.840: I am not a camera operator.
00:05.840: And it's amazing.
00:05.840: Um okay.
00:05.840: Yeah.
00:05.840: They're not giant, they're not heavy.
00:05.920: That was it.
00:05.920: I hate that when something that you really like changes.
00:05.920: They're superb, they're very professional and they make it sound very easy.
00:05.920: It's 10 past one in the morning here, so I'm probably going to be staying up even later than I planned now, Chris, because I'll tell you that.
00:05.920: Which is which is great.
00:05.920: Yeah.
00:05.920: No, no, no.
00:05.920: Like you need more Twitter followers.
00:06.000: Yeah, exactly.
00:06.000: Right.
00:06.000: I said, and to think you used to be a photographer.
00:06.000: But yes.
00:06.080: Yeah, I remember that.
00:06.080: It's like, why exactly am I doing this?
00:06.080: I liked You're talking about just aesthetically, the URL.
00:06.080: Super.
00:06.080: They would pay they would pay a retainer for me.
00:06.080: Okay.
00:06.080: With the Vamps, have you always been on Funnel Cut 10?
00:06.080: It's not technically a track, but the top layer
00:06.080: That they they push out to maybe promote a video the day it's going to come
00:06.080: That's awesome.
00:06.080: And then the the last thing that has on the little puck is another little mini input jack.
00:06.160: Now, when they do the additional passes of the song.
00:06.160: And I don't, you know, I don't take money from somebody unless I actually use their product.
00:06.160: I think if I didn't shoot as well, then I'd do that.
00:06.240: So do any of those guys I'm assuming they have a certain amount of musical ability.
00:06.240: Yeah, it's very true.
00:06.240: Because that's always the one that causes me the issue.
00:06.240: Yeah.
00:06.240: So, anyway, there is a keyboard shortcut called Hide Libraries.
00:06.320: Of course, yeah.
00:06.320: And I was like, Yeah, I'm done.
00:06.320: Sure.
00:06.320: Yeah.
00:06.400: Thanks for having me on.
00:06.400: two six four files straight into it?
00:06.400: Yeah, it's brilliant.
00:06.400: I've been using plugins in FCPX and
00:06.400: So that's cool.
00:06.400: Oh, really?
00:06.400: I will.
00:06.480: And more people started to like the work I was doing.
00:06.480: It's not an easy job to get by any means, and it's quite rare.
00:06.480: So this is actually quite fortuitous that we're chatting today, Dean, because literally just I think yesterday
00:06.480: They knew that it was being filmed.
00:06.480: Yeah.
00:06.480: Do you like do some extra drum close ups or feet on the panels or all sorts of out of focus stuff as well?
00:06.480: So in the middle of that interview, I stood up and I said, you know what, from now on, I'm going to stand up while I do my interviews.
00:06.480: I really appreciate it.
00:06.560: I think when you find something that works for you, I don't know what it is about my workflow or whatever, but
00:06.560: I love to learn as most of us do, I think.
00:06.560: I have seen many young girls that are very fascinated with photography at an early age.
00:06.560: Yeah, well, I'm getting there.
00:06.560: Yeah.
00:06.560: But again, I'm in one place for a week.
00:06.560: Although I like it, I would like to be able to sort of expand on.
00:06.560: Yeah, and I got to say, I learned that from I believe it was Steve Martin who was showing that when I was on the virtual user group.
00:06.560: I'm actually not producing it.
00:06.640: Of course.
00:06.640: Possibly, that's undecided.
00:06.640: So I started cutting on it, and at two in the morning
00:06.640: But I'm more stubborn than that.
00:06.640: Yeah, exactly.
00:06.640: The first take is usually recorded by
00:06.640: But that's n that's now in ten, though.
00:06.640: Life on the Road, isn't it wonderful?
00:06.640: No.
00:06.640: So you can plug your headphones on without reaching around behind.
00:06.720: So we're recording this on very late Saturday night for him.
00:06.720: Wow.
00:06.720: Or what are you doing?
00:06.720: So he will do that.
00:06.720: I still have sync issues.
00:06.720: And do you just use that as your program out or as a second display?
00:06.720: So it's in with my clothes.
00:06.720: So it's a great way, you know, when you get into the color phase of editing.
00:06.720: And if you're already following Dean Sherwood, please
00:06.720: I just wanted to give you a little tease about that.
00:06.800: I don't know if you ever dealt with it where you'd
00:06.800: Yeah.
00:06.800: You and about a hundred thousand other people watched it.
00:06.800: Like a a musical tech, like a guitar tech type guy.
00:06.800: So maybe afterwards I'll give you the link to it and you can have a good laugh.
00:06.800: When did you decide
00:06.800: Yes.
00:06.800: I I would like
00:06.800: I just.
00:06.800: But anyway, I again, I mean, I don't get jacked from from Bows, but I have
00:06.800: Bye.
00:06.800: And like Dean was talking about, using the T Vs, the flat panels in the hotel rooms quite often.
00:06.880: I think that would be like especially I mean, I I'm like a thousand years old, so I don't know who the vamps are.
00:06.880: But it's an it's an enormous part of the publicity of the band because you are also
00:06.880: I just want to go again I just want to say that.
00:06.880: It is the only
00:06.880: So in terms of the arena tour in the UK, that's bigger venues.
00:06.880: Woohoo!
00:06.960: And I
00:06.960: They liked it.
00:06.960: I remember that.
00:06.960: Knock on wood.
00:07.040: No, I think that's it scares me a little bit that if something happens to the cable, what do I do?
00:07.040: It's actually knock on wood, quite robust.
00:07.040: I don't know if you realize, but
00:07.120: I like it.
00:07.120: Exactly, yeah.
00:07.120: I mean, just, I'm doing giant air quotes here.
00:07.120: If it happened, then I would stop using it instantly.
00:07.120: But do you have to access it on the road?
00:07.120: Yeah, we could take it, but you're going to carry that box.
00:07.120: Yeah, I love it, isn't it?
00:07.120: So we play it out through a speaker.
00:07.120: And how is Final Cut
00:07.120: You know, and frankly, a lot of men aren't either.
00:07.120: I'm actually at one point two still because I'm in the middle of a lot of stuff and I
00:07.200: And I think I edited it in Sony Vegas.
00:07.200: And we shot a cover of a One Direction song at four in the afternoon.
00:07.200: I'm sure it's good, Chris.
00:07.200: And I'm sure there's other stuff too, you know, to generate, you know, animated stuff and whatever.
00:07.200: So May.
00:07.200: Young women tend to be more creative than young men.
00:07.200: And I got to tell you, I'm maybe this week.
00:07.280: But they've been very generous, Nicholas and the team over there at fxfactory.
00:07.280: It was one of those holidays where I just wanted to sit and do nothing, but I find that so difficult.
00:07.280: About two thousand eight.
00:07.280: We actually just did a US tour with a singer out there called Osti Mahone.
00:07.280: I'm truly an editor and I do not belong behind a camera at all.
00:07.280: And it's been used on like I think it was used on the new Transformer movie.
00:07.280: And I get stopped whenever it shows and asked, you know, what camera do you use?
00:07.280: Interesting.
00:07.280: Yeah, that's the one, yeah.
00:07.280: It's rarely valuable.
00:07.280: I don't know what it is.
00:07.360: I've actually just spent
00:07.360: It's absolutely brilliant.
00:07.360: Right.
00:07.360: I'm actually thinking, God, do I really want to share that with the world?
00:07.360: So I don't know how
00:07.440: I also want to mention, I got a tweet from Adam Pariso.
00:07.440: If anybody doesn't know, I mean, I this may not be common knowledge, but
00:07.440: How do you arrange the songs?
00:07.440: It's no social life.
00:07.440: But I've got eight terabytes worth of
00:07.440: Okay.
00:07.440: What was it that you saw that made you realize this is the way to go for your workflow?
00:07.440: 0.
00:07.440: There is a lot of pressure, there's a lot of tight deadlines, but you know, I can't
00:07.440: The Bose speaker system that I use, they're relatively small and I realize you have to pack super, super lightweight.
00:07.519: Yeah.
00:07.520: Hey, so today I have a really interesting interview.
00:07.520: I'm done.
00:07.520: You might want to consider offing that data from those drives to something more
00:07.520: But um
00:07.520: Had a great one on that one.
00:07.520: It's really cool to be able to just reach up and turn it up and down and mute it.
00:07.520: How do people find you if they're trying to follow Dean Sherwood?
00:07.600: I think I did mention that on the last show.
00:07.600: So as of right now, it looks like you can still buy the other one, though.
00:07.600: And the first edit I did in ten was
00:07.600: I don't want to be the guy that screws up your career.
00:07.600: And then we do that same thing.
00:07.600: And thanks for seeking me out and also staying up late.
00:07.680: Or, as I've mentioned before, if you get the shorts.
00:07.680: So
00:07.680: Yes, very true.
00:07.760: That's the only barometer I have.
00:07.760: Yeah.
00:07.760: So it's actually a really tough gig, even though you have a very small audience.
00:07.760: I think they overheat too often.
00:07.760: He'll send me a rough pass of the audio.
00:07.760: Just get a Mac.
00:07.760: I've been ever so I do another show called the Digital Cinema Cafe, and we had a guy named
00:07.840: And are you buying the new one that is Thunderbolt?
00:07.840: I've done both, but most of the time with the band when we shoot.
00:07.840: Hold on while
00:07.920: It was actually a holiday, a rare holiday.
00:07.920: Spend a lot of time together.
00:07.920: You know, I'd shoot something.
00:07.920: Do you have any
00:07.920: But we're at the moment I'm also making a World DVD.
00:07.920: Now are you keeping your media in the libraries?
00:07.920: And then the other question I wanted to ask you, you s um earlier you had said, so I get into the hotel room and I set up my edit suite.
00:08.080: I think it's quite interesting.
00:08.080: Okay, so I hope you enjoyed that.
00:08.080: If you're ever in San Francisco and you get a chance to see Zoo Station, I
00:08.080: I'm just I'm a
00:08.160: Quite often you can.
00:08.160: I got to say, I think I mentioned this on the last episode.
00:08.160: Those were awful, horrible days.
00:08.160: I basically I looked at it and I thought, yes, do you know what?
00:08.160: And I and you know, it's good looking stuff.
00:08.160: I thought nothing of upgrading to 1013.
00:08.160: So when you're done, the library is everything you need for that project.
00:08.160: Okay?
00:08.160: You can also tap it and it mutes everything, which is kind of a bag me button if you don't realize you've tapped it.
00:08.240: No, I could I definitely remember using
00:08.240: They were like, Oh, that's great, yeah, yeah.
00:08.240: They weren't expecting to see it.
00:08.240: And we've got bas we're basically in the middle of a world tour.
00:08.240: So I
00:08.320: There's videos of their own songs
00:08.320: Now did uh do any of the
00:08.320: And so he said, Yeah, actually, we're practicing next Tuesday night.
00:08.320: Whether it it wasn't just based on that one video and it being turned around so quick, but it definitely helps.
00:08.320: I'm looking forward to seeing it.
00:08.400: And the four guys in the band are like younger brothers to me now as well.
00:08.400: It's quite funny you say that.
00:08.400: Now did they
00:08.400: And I don't know if it's just
00:08.400: And I think there's a certain amount of uh
00:08.400: I'm going back through a lot of
00:08.480: Exactly, yeah.
00:08.560: Not entirely, but and it actually I did multi-cam on the thing too, and it uh
00:08.560: You're always going to get them, especially when it's a band playing a song that they don't particularly know.
00:08.560: Now are you traveling with a with a second monitor?
00:08.560: Isn't it?
00:08.560: That's what I did.
00:08.640: Yeah, I don't know what it is, but it's fairly popular.
00:08.640: So, you're going to dig it.
00:08.720: But I just think that would be just an awesome gig.
00:08.720: And archive is really how long do you want to make sure that this is accessible for
00:08.720: I know, exactly, yeah.
00:08.800: Yeah, aesthetically, it just looking at a darker panel and everything just helped, I think.
00:08.800: Kind of like when Final Cut 7 changes.
00:08.800: That's exactly my plan, Chris.
00:08.880: Yeah.
00:08.960: Yeah
00:09.040: You're just the video guy.
00:09.040: And you know, they're not sponsoring the show or anything.
00:09.120: It's like three dimensional sound in their ears.
00:09.120: And we quite often do it.
00:09.120: Okay.
00:09.200: That was one of the main things that I really wanted to get inside.
00:09.280: And I have I edit on a
00:09.280: If you're listening.
00:09.280: That's what I need.
00:09.360: If I enjoy the interview, hopefully you will too.
00:09.360: So it went from photography being one hundred percent of my work to
00:09.360: So, what do you see?
00:09.360: But because I've got camera gear with me.
00:09.440: You can have as much
00:09.520: I would imagine
00:09.520: How do you tear them apart?
00:09.600: And I knew not a lot about video.
00:09.600: Well, no, I get it.
00:09.600: Myself.
00:09.600: The quickest I could do was maybe forty eight hours at push.
00:09.600: I don't know what that says about us, but whatever, I'm not going to worry about that.
00:09.600: I don't know how long you've worked with them.
00:09.760: S.
00:09.760: Imagine.
00:09.760: That's stupid.
00:09.760: I have said it many times
00:09.760: You hit that consolidate at the end of the project and you know that everything is in your job folder.
00:09.760: Hey, now, careful, careful, this is going out.
00:09.760: Now.
00:09.760: I know that Dean and I sort of geeked out about our road boxes and how we travel and edit.
00:09.840: So I'm gonna I'm gonna share with you something that I've been doing and I
00:09.840: So you have scopes, your program and your adjustments.
00:09.840: It's terrific.
00:09.920: Okay, so two thousand and eight was the
00:09.920: Those were those, yeah.
00:09.920: Yes.
00:09.920: And when are you doing that?
00:09.920: I'd love to just be able to push the audio all up.
00:10.000: Yeah, sure.
00:10.000: I'm shooting things that
00:10.080: Yeah.
00:10.160: So, anyway.
00:10.160: Now Carl's still doing it, but that th you are the convergence
00:10.160: And now I'm creating graphics to the music and
00:10.240: , what was the traveling crew size?
00:10.240: Oh, very cool.
00:10.240: So yeah, I think
00:10.240: So
00:10.240: Yeah, it's actually really cool though, because you can just drop in your markers and then just run it.
00:10.320: Yeah.
00:10.320: I basically
00:10.320: So was that multicam?
00:10.320: Then he'll work on it
00:10.320: And, you know, it's
00:10.400: We're talking with a guy named Dean Sherwood.
00:10.400: So thank you, Dean, for staying up.
00:10.400: Oh, okay.
00:10.400: And you're like, oh, yeah, maybe we should get somebody to mix the show.
00:10.480: Wow.
00:10.480: Okay, on Twitter, I am.
00:10.560: So now I don't know
00:10.560: I want to see some of the stuff that you've done, too.
00:10.560: I don't have parity between them.
00:10.560: Well, I guess on your laptop, it's not as big a deal.
00:10.560: I'm used to it.
00:10.720: Now, he was on episode
00:10.720: How do you learn them?
00:10.720: Oh, wait a minute.
00:10.800: I really want to learn this.
00:10.800: So this is interesting because so many of
00:10.800: Huh?
00:10.800: Because you guys did you guys have a gig tonight?
00:10.960: We only just decided today that
00:10.960: I'm looking at the G Speed XL, which looks
00:10.960: Today it was labeled as
00:10.960: Sorry about that.
00:10.960: What do you use to edit?
00:11.040: Oh, wow.
00:11.040: So it hasn't happened on you yet?
00:11.040: Anyway.
00:11.120: So I just I
00:11.120: What?
00:11.120: I'm used to it.
00:11.200: They they can hate me if they want.
00:11.200: So, thanks for listening.
00:11.280: Yeah.
00:11.280: It's incredible.
00:11.280: So
00:11.280: I'm sorry, what'd you say?
00:11.360: So I want to point that out.
00:11.360: So it's
00:11.360: We've done America
00:11.440: We have not ever lost any data.
00:11.440: We're already talking about
00:11.440: That's on the fifth of October.
00:11.520: Yeah.
00:11.520: If they needed to, they could stand.
00:11.520: Multicam?
00:11.600: And I said, Can I come along and hang out?
00:11.680: What if the cable breaks?
00:11.760: And it'd be nice to have things like
00:11.840: com.
00:11.840: So so you how many of those do you have?
00:11.840: How do you see
00:11.840: Yeah.
00:11.920: Yeah, I think that's really stupid.
00:11.920: And I'm actually doing that.
00:11.920: And then the last thing I'll say.
00:11.920: He says with no emotion.
00:12.000: And
00:12.000: But the link to that will be in the show notes, along with some of the things.
00:12.080: How do you do that?
00:12.160: Now, Dean found me on Twitter.
00:12.160: Click.
00:12.240: And I hope you enjoy this interview, Dean Sherwood.
00:12.240: Yeah.
00:12.240: How do you
00:12.400: Yeah, that's a problem.
00:12.480: And so thank you guys also.
00:12.560: So the loops.
00:12.560: No, they they would
00:12.560: We'll be back on Friday.
00:12.640: Multicam cut.
00:12.880: They're probably awesome.
00:12.960: That's fine.
00:13.200: Well.
00:13.280: So
00:13.440: He goes, Yeah, sure.
00:13.520: But
00:13.680: How many people?
00:13.760: Later, later.