Episode 61
FCG061 - Episode 61 (feat. Alex Gollner)
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00:00.001: I use their stuff all the time.
00:00.001: It's interesting, and clearly, you want to be able to see these graphs as Alex is talking.
00:00.001: Now I don't mind doing music editing, and most people can't hear my music edits, and I kind of have a sense of it.
00:00.080: Upgrade, upgrade.
00:00.160: Oh, no.
00:00.160: So he said, So what kind of stuff do you do?
00:00.160: Of course, they'd say their programme is for everybody and for everyone from somebody who has never used a computer before to the people who are making the new Star Wars movie.
00:00.160: To go through auditions with other people, I don't usually use them, but there's a new break-a-path auditions feature.
00:00.160: And you can manipulate them or edit between them if you like.
00:00.160: Of the on what's new in File Cut Pro 10.
00:00.160: The old way, so press the P key before shifting left and right with the greater than or less than key, or even just, yeah, so little things like that.
00:00.160: that maybe if you were trying to promote Final Cut Pro 10.
00:00.160: Pro 10 you'd like to see in it, and I'm sure even if all those were answered, then another 100 would appear tomorrow, which is perfectly fine.
00:00.160: and it couldn't really be used for high budget things because it just wasn't able to do it.
00:00.160: Which, of course, I would say was good for the low end because you could do motion graphics really easily and you could do things with type.
00:00.160: I'm not sure how I'm gonna do that.
00:00.160: It is possible, obviously, with every new update to say, well, how come they haven't done this yet?
00:00.160: But for editors and where this happens all the time, every few hours, you might g find that rather irritating to have to always have that warning that that's what you're doing.
00:00.160: And I just, I'm telling you, this is, we all do this.
00:00.160: uh fader would be a role.
00:00.160: digital audio workstations.
00:00.160: Somebody had another taken another look at that.
00:00.160: it seems to be about a music composition application that can deal with video a little bit, which is pretty different from Soundtrack Pro, which seems to be
00:00.160: for me to select a range in a clip quite so much I mean, effectively, if I could select the range in a clip and say, okay, make this uh bit of ambient sound that I've got here when we've got this somebody the people to be quiet on location
00:00.160: Picture editors just say to say, Oh, I could do that standard editing job.
00:00.160: Quite a lot of the time at the high end, we're trying to communicate with other professionals who are much better there at it than we are.
00:00.160: I should write that down.
00:00.160: So I take my Cathedral reverb and drag it over and drop it right on top of the name in the roles.
00:00.160: And then make a compound clip and then apply the filter to that instead.
00:00.160: Somebody tweeted that line the other day.
00:00.160: you know, and actually compose a sentence that you know uses good English and explain in det as much detail as you can the things that you were doing when it when it gave you the problem.
00:00.160: they redefine the library format, which means that so ten point one point two libraries cannot be read in ten point one point one.
00:00.160: What I generally do when a new major version comes out, and you can tell when it's a major version, because Apple added an extra thing in the help system to say what's new in version
00:00.160: If FileCut Pro 10 could actually add this metadata or manipulate it, that would be very good news.
00:00.160: the character's name or all the script.
00:00.160: that they're going to come up with a much more advanced overlay system based on time based metadata.
00:00.160: I think it's interesting that the last six months or eight months or so, the amount of free templates has kind of gone down.
00:00.160: But the frequency has gone down, and it's almost like Apple have tried to g that up a bit with the saying, look what you can do.
00:00.160: And obviously, Apple don't see them as competition at the moment, which I think it's a pity, because I think maybe not in the coming version, but quite soon.
00:00.160: and time based metadata would be quite relevant because and really it should be Adobe should be doing this.
00:00.160: So I don't know what's up with them.
00:00.160: So that's one of the things that actually points to why Final Cut Pro 10.
00:00.160: So you can have somebody fixing, adding script information to the metadata of some of the clips, while somebody else is improving the grades of some of the clips and coming up from the standards, while the editor is working away on the same timeline, effectively on the same job.
00:00.160: Are you seeing anything else in there that we might be looking for?
00:00.160: Timeline while somebody else is while you're working on another part of the timeline to say that part of it is being guarded.
00:00.160: Debug preferences window come up in FileCut Pro 10.
00:00.160: And somebody said, you know, has it uh has anyone looked?
00:00.160: The proliferation of the plug-in community, yourself being included in that group, esteemed group.
00:00.160: That's out of sync with the current plug-ins that you have on any given computer.
00:00.160: cam clip creation.
00:00.160: So I think that is referring to the fact that the continuing problem Final Cut Pro 10 is having with rendering audio waveforms and going I guess it doesn't maybe doesn't happen anymore, but of course the old days where
00:00.160: File Cut Pro 10 and Post Production Blog, which is essentially where I write this stuff up.
00:00.160: Yeah, I'm still working on MySpace.
00:00.160: I don't know, I got all these emails over the holiday weekend, you know, hey, America 25, stuff like that.
00:00.160: I don't know if everybody knows this connection, but the website fcp.
00:00.160: Think it's quite handy for GoPros getting more and more popular in terms of fixing that wide angle lens effect.
00:00.240: Triple repeat guests.
00:00.240: If you can't find him on Digital Cinema Cafe, because I think he told me I could put him on Digital Cinema Cafe website, if you don't find him there, go check out Alex's
00:00.240: Absolutely, yeah.
00:00.240: You know, come up with solutions and then pass on those solutions, unfortunately.
00:00.240: I spent my first full day cutting in 10.
00:00.240: like probably while it was still sort of redrawing the waveforms, I tried to lasse it really quick.
00:00.240: I knew every keyboard shortcut.
00:00.240: on a day to bury bad news.
00:00.240: kind of leading towards the pro side of things.
00:00.240: Because the very few times we actually get Apple who actually ever communicate with us is through what they release.
00:00.240: pretty interesting stuff, even to the extent of sharing to Vimeo at 4K.
00:00.240: Vimeo approvals, although Vimeo doesn't seem to has decided not to be used as an approval service recently for some strange reason to do with their audio problems and stuff like that and matching music.
00:00.240: But then, of course, being the investigator that I was, I decided to have a good look at what all the features were of Final Cup Road 10.
00:00.240: they didn't publicize that weren't on their list.
00:00.240: but the way they've implemented it, they've make it very flexible to use in any instance, either with a background or keyed over your video.
00:00.240: From the people making YouTube videos or people who have got other jobs who are doing videos on the side, to people or one-man bands and small production companies.
00:00.240: And you can choose a break apart, and those five or six clips will appear on the timeline based on the in-out points you've chosen, the effects you've done.
00:00.240: I got the old PDF of the manual and then I used a program to do a difference between them and went through page by page and it highlighted all the differences.
00:00.240: what used to happen was that if you moved it in one direction, you'd have a gap clip appear on the other side of it to show that that's where your clip was.
00:00.240: But the question is what does Apple work on first and what do they do next and why?
00:00.240: Wasn't necessarily for free or personal projects because in File Cup 03 in like two thousand three, two thousand two, I'm gonna have to turn my phone off, it's beeping at me.
00:00.240: So in File Cup O three, I think that was about two thousand two or something like that, it wasn't for people who were d doing free projects or doing personal things unless you were very rich because it cost $1000 or $900 or something like that.
00:00.240: 4K Red and stuff like that.
00:00.240: few people argued quite so much when they said let's use Final Cut Pro V or six or seven to do feature films because the workflow was all there.
00:00.240: And the colorboard is really for to help people.
00:00.240: then it has things like templates and effects and the magnetic time line and the colorboard and things like that.
00:00.240: R3D and ten point nor point six.
00:00.240: much better libraries, much better management for multiple groups.
00:00.240: It seems that Apple have now he's concentrating on trying to support more higher budget shows or T V shows and movies.
00:00.240: I mean, anybody who develops software has to deal with this.
00:00.240: Shoot, we have those too.
00:00.240: some of the little changes are quite seem to be the response of day to day use and somebody saying, could you just do that?
00:00.240: You can't have two libraries open and you can't use the clip from one library and the timeline on another.
00:00.240: Very simply, in that dialogue box, it says, Please don't warn me about this again.
00:00.240: But the people that are pro-vaccine say you must use your vaccine so all of our kids are healthy.
00:00.240: Money grabbed from the drug companies, but whatever.
00:00.240: to report these things and to use those underneath the Provide Funnel Cut Pro feedback, there's a whole pull down for these are features I'd like to see.
00:00.240: On the other hand, it's going to be much more features like pasting transitions.
00:00.240: For instance, how did you discover that?
00:00.240: Although maybe there will be a Rules Mix.
00:00.240: oh no, this really is about is for music sound edit music editors and sound editors to work with.
00:00.240: Problem to do with some extraneous sound, and I'd like to have a bit of control about how that sound is removed, how it removes ambient sound or inserts sound.
00:00.240: communicate with dialogue editors and sound editors because they concentrate on this stuff all the time and they're really good at it.
00:00.240: Comp become acutely aware of in Final Cut 10 when it comes to to editing audio is
00:00.240: In the audio space, work fine right inside my final cut.
00:00.240: um you know the indie producer's friend as opposed to the uh major motion pictures producer's friend i gotta tell y i gotta tell ya um
00:00.240: And I kid you not, if you close your eyes, it almost sounds like somebody has draped a um a sound blanket over your talent's head.
00:00.240: And so now I look at that and I go, okay, well, really, why do I need a digital audio workstation?
00:00.240: and you see you have all of your roles and sub roles and whatnot, okay?
00:00.240: Excuse me, in the inspector over there.
00:00.240: You're in deep trouble because you've you've updated in the middle of a project, which of course is bad, and also you're having bugs and you can't get stuff out and you can't use it.
00:00.240: blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, then you know they consider it a major version.
00:00.240: Do you move it out of your app folder before you download the new one?
00:00.240: From an external drive or a separate drive or a different volume, and they run perfectly.
00:00.240: the previous versions, I just didn't update them.
00:00.240: that OS X Yosemite can do, which is things to do with continuity and metadata.
00:00.240: in OS Ten Yosemite, which is probably coming in in the fall in or as we say, autumn in England, is that the QuickTime player can play back metadata, and Safari can play back metadata that's in QuickTime movies.
00:00.240: So that's quite cool.
00:00.240: GPS information on it.
00:00.240: you can make it so that as you're watching the video you can actually show an Apple map, and this comes free with it, and you just say show Apple Map, and it will show a line
00:00.240: If you click anywhere on that line, the video will scroll to that part where their camera was when it was in that place.
00:00.240: You can make it so that it'll show you which car is at the front, or you can click on that, it'll jump to the part of the video where that person is at the front.
00:00.240: Nobody thought about that.
00:00.240: that they bring.
00:00.240: But um I heard from um mister Andreas Kiel from Germany.
00:00.240: Production and I was working on some 3D effects to you know, motion plugins and stuff like that for File Cut Pro.
00:00.240: not too long ago.
00:00.240: that leads us to believe we might see that in Final Cut?
00:00.240: And more importantly, back again.
00:00.240: And also in the same project, you could have somebody else who's working on grades, on the clips that you're working on.
00:00.240: But God seems to me, judging by the UI, and that the text that was hidden in the old version seems to be about protecting part of the
00:00.240: The reason why it works like that is Resolve is made of separate rooms.
00:00.240: I don't know to what extent they tidied up the inside of Final Cut Pro to stop me discovering things about it.
00:00.240: I found a way of at least looking at the elements of the hidden debug menu, which I didn't really know about, but then I found a way of looking around inside.
00:00.240: because those are stored as bundles.
00:00.240: I think that eventually what I want, being a bit self serving, is that I'd like to have the plug in shop and an extra shop built into Final Cut Pro.
00:00.240: clip audio, it could be somebody else doing your color grading for you, or somebody actually taking over the app and controlling it for you, and how creating its own little post product post
00:00.240: Where you don't have all the effects and you just get this mystery red screen and it just says missing.
00:00.240: So save effects to bundle, which is pretty cool.
00:00.240: good news because if the libraries are databases, it makes it more likely they'll be multi user databases, which is good news for people who want to
00:00.240: is actually from DVD Studio Pro.
00:00.240: So there's stuff to do with when you're debugging it, you want to see inside the database that it's working with.
00:00.240: Share their timelines with other people.
00:00.240: Thank you very much.
00:00.240: I don't really feel like I could charge for it.
00:00.240: And we will have that on Friday.
00:00.240: So definitely go support Nicholas Bond and what he's doing at FX Factory.
00:00.240: Go look at Aperture Expert.
00:00.320: And so basically what he's doing is he's breaking things down into kind of low-end features, mid-range features, and high-end features.
00:00.320: But I'm at I'm literally asking you they support our show.
00:00.320: Alex Golner, the Svengali, the future-telling Final Cut Pro 10 user.
00:00.320: Very, it was since 10.
00:00.320: So I'm I'm quite useless when it comes to that.
00:00.320: I was complaining that it you know, it was crashing a lot.
00:00.320: So why don't you tell me about your charts and graphs and break it down for me.
00:00.320: Cool.
00:00.320: Where are you?
00:00.320: stuff like that.
00:00.320: we can learn more about FileCut Pro and how they're thinking about it by what they seem to concentrate on each time there's a release.
00:00.320: Well, I mean, the the an example of a really low end thing in practice, n low end not in a bad way, but in a way a popular thing that wouldn't be used on a major feature film is
00:00.320: you know, twenty-five, thirty new effects, transitions, generators and titles.
00:00.320: But there's one where you can add light streaks which look like JJ Abrams' movie.
00:00.320: kind of showing what cool particle effects you can do.
00:00.320: Now, here's an example of what I did.
00:00.320: when you nudge with the comma and full stop keys, that slides clips along the timeline as opposed to inserting gap clips.
00:00.320: And if you use the comma or the full stop key, or you might look at the greater than or le less than key, if you hold down, say, the shift key and move them left and right
00:00.320: I mean, yeah.
00:00.320: And then at the high end, they added soundtrack.
00:00.320: and then Soundtrack Pro with Final Cuts Pro Studio.
00:00.320: But then ten comes along, and that's mainly about the low end and a little bit into the middle end, and not messed so much about the high end anymore, because we kind of start off with loads of templates and effects for the low end for Alcott Pro ten point naught point naught.
00:00.320: macro support.
00:00.320: And of course, in the low end, with this update, ten point one point two, there's been more plugins, many more plugins, which kind of supports people who want to do cool things on YouTube and in their
00:00.320: Personal lives.
00:00.320: You know, a bathroom, anything.
00:00.320: So I want to be able to send messages back and forth.
00:00.320: 15, 16, 17 of them at a time get crossed off the list.
00:00.320: But I mean, I will tell you just because I have been told, absolutely use the provide Final Cut Pro feedback command underneath the Final Cut Pro menu.
00:00.320: It's important to do this.
00:00.320: Use the comment.
00:00.320: So like for example, my kernel panic, I can remember, okay, I changed the scale of the timeline and then I immediately went to Lasu five audio clips.
00:00.320: Okay, that's a good hint to the programmers to go, oh, hmm, redrawing and selecting simultaneously nearly.
00:00.320: because it seems to me that they seem to be much more about creating for the high end really good connections to other software, such as Resolve for Color.
00:00.320: we also can work out to what extent what Apple will less likely to do or never do.
00:00.320: If you could create Soundtrack Pro X, like Snap Your Fingers, what would it have that you can't do already in Funnel Cut 10?
00:00.320: doesn't seem to be about audio post production for video, because if you look at their manuals or their instructions and stuff like that, there's hardly any mention of video at all.
00:00.320: So it's not really for me because essentially what you want in the timeline.
00:00.320: select that and make that ano ambient noise print, and then select all the other stuff and then be able to say, okay, remove this ambient noise using these settings.
00:00.320: As editors, what we're really doing with roles and with sound editing is that either we're making our own videos just to make it practical, but
00:00.320: hey, we're doing the dub.
00:00.320: Number one, because everything in the audio is editing at subframe level, concurrent and side by side with my frame-based editing of video on the upper portion of my program.
00:00.320: is Isotope RX3.
00:00.320: And they are called there's three.
00:00.320: So you put somebody in a room that has too much reverberant sound in it, right?
00:00.320: Scroll down, take watch.
00:00.320: I think if there were a roles mixer or a way that you could drag an audio fill you know how you could actually do it?
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: Because I you know, I think one of the secrets of making of doing a really good feature request is explaining what the UI should be in order how it fits into the current user interface of the app, as opposed to just saying do it.
00:00.320: people can start imagining it.
00:00.320: Step away from how angry you were at the point that it crashed.
00:00.320: At any rate, no, I mean, I agree.
00:00.320: use the old oh, you work with an old library or an old lib event or project, I just run ten point naught point nine or older versions and they still work.
00:00.320: In order because I know that 10.
00:00.320: I I just do that little bit and then transfer it over because it just feels much more safe that way.
00:00.320: But I have can I can easily go back.
00:00.320: What do you suspect that we will see and I don't want to sound ungrateful for Ten One two, thank you, Apple.
00:00.320: in the near or midterm future?
00:00.320: Show a dot wherever the each shot is and where it was shot in the first place if it was recorded on an iPhone which has GPS information on it.
00:00.320: That kind of metadata in which, if you know, if you've got production information about what's in the scene, like what kind of jumper that person is wearing on where to buy it from or what color it is, or
00:00.320: A cool thing is if in Safari you're playing a QuickTime with metadata and HTML5 has now got access to that metadata, which means they, for example, you've got people a Grand Prix footage.
00:00.320: URL links and hotspots and clickable things in your QuickTime movie.
00:00.320: Um but but um the closest was the Media 100.
00:00.320: The generators and showing us examples.
00:00.320: who are the experts in subtitling, on in converting subtitles from different formats to different formats, and also about time based metadata
00:00.320: And he's the one who will take your subtitle files and turn them into lots of plugins and stuff like that if you go to spherico.
00:00.320: And he, as an individual, as a person operating as a company producing these tools, as being the expert in time-based metadata and subtitles, was offered a job by Apple.
00:00.320: And one of the things that they were alluding to or saying that they were going to be able to do I can't remember now, it's been too long, but this idea of having multiple people working on a project simultaneously.
00:00.320: It's not you've got three editors working on the same timeline.
00:00.320: that the the hidden File Cut Protend preferences, which is for debugging the app, allows you to turn on or at least turn on or turn off guards.
00:00.320: But that probably requires that you've got a special version of FileCut Pro 10 or you've got a special version that can work on a shared drive that multiple people are working on.
00:00.320: and because they were already hidden inside the previous version of iMovie.
00:00.320: exactly one week before it came out exactly one week before the new version of Final Pro Cut Pro 10 came out.
00:00.320: The debug menu has had new features added to it.
00:00.320: But we quite often move files around the office, and it's hard to keep all the machines in parody having the same plugins on them.
00:00.320: That would be handy because then what happens is that you build in the buying and distribution process into Final Cut Pro itself.
00:00.320: But here's the problem.
00:00.320: Well, I mean at the very least it would be nice if we created new rendered media to think of it in the Final Cut Pro 7 style
00:00.320: that would actually cover over the transitions that would be stored with a library.
00:00.320: Working with the timeline and doing straight editing is called Flexo.
00:00.320: view selected item as model graph, view the selected event as model graph.
00:00.320: So it could be Resolve or Color or Soundtrack Pro ten.
00:00.320: you'd be using their app for a few minutes and it'll be fine, and then it will slow down to a crawl.
00:00.320: very cool that this community has somebody like you kind of looking over the fence and seeing what's coming up next.
00:00.320: And he gives them away a free.
00:00.320: is the thriving plugin community.
00:00.320: All right, thanks for listening again.
00:00.320: And Alex4D, which is my Twitter account at Alex4D on Twitter.
00:00.400: Chart looking at all of the versions of Funnel Cut Pro and Funnel Cut Studio.
00:00.400: It's, you know, you got to look at it.
00:00.400: Yes, certainly not um before before A I w I went away in April, so it was before that.
00:00.400: And um, yep, so we came out and I looked at it and I thought, interesting list of features that Apple came up with.
00:00.400: you can and the effects are you can have you can blur the outside of an area or you can do a graduated mask which is quite handy.
00:00.400: Yeah, I mean so I there you go.
00:00.400: I'd rather, and I've said this many times on the show, I'd rather look at what we do have and not dwell on what we don't have.
00:00.400: The what we don't have stuff is not coming up anymore.
00:00.400: When they have the right kind of feedback back to Apple, have a way.
00:00.400: totally small little feature, and they probably thought, that's worth a few hours of somebody's time just to make sure that that dialogue box works properly and that make message doesn't come up.
00:00.400: it'll automatically turn it into a a story, a connected story, and then put the transition either at the beginning or the end.
00:00.400: Rundown of 10.
00:00.400: Well, the funny thing is that uh the the few things I do in File Co and Soundtrack Pro at the moment would be just to deal with that niggling bit of audio
00:00.400: When I look at the type of plug-ins that are available for Logic or Audition or any other digital audio workstation
00:00.400: Those plugins, by and large, there are a few that are specific to specific hardware, but some of the best plugins that you can imagine and dream of owning
00:00.400: ten times faster than any denoising thing, select voice print, whatever, that we used to do in soundtrack, and sounds ten times better.
00:00.400: Well, I mean, I would say that sound editors would like a little bit more in terms of what you could do with a rolls mixer, of course, is you could apply a filter to a whole roll.
00:00.400: or 10.
00:00.400: whatever, and it would take all the effects of my current program and zip them together and bundle them, that would be brilliant.
00:00.400: the greatest little shop to buy and manage all your plugins.
00:00.400: Of the menu has those things, but it has some new stuff, which obviously is maybe what current beta testers or future testers of these, at least this Final Cut Pro 10.
00:00.400: to photos and how does that relate to Final Cut Pro to Final Cut Pro 10?
00:00.480: Oh, gee, I don't know.
00:00.480: And I was, you know, it's always important to remember what you were doing.
00:00.480: Wow.
00:00.480: That was an instance.
00:00.480: Because say, for example, you have another job which is important to you, but you need to have a video to make a video, but you don't want to use iMovie, so you want to use a better app.
00:00.480: past the whining, uh, you know, why don't I have my colored markers or what I mean, and even
00:00.480: Okay, I need to look at that.
00:00.480: supporting making branding consistent across the way.
00:00.480: I think Apple, hopefully, if we're lucky, are going to get into time based metadata because essentially, Adobe took it over from them with proper ranges and stuff like that with Premiere Pro quite a while ago.
00:00.480: Interesting.
00:00.480: Have a tab for effects, and it would give me a rundown of all the effects that are in my timeline.
00:00.560: We know that Apple is listening.
00:00.560: At least in the outside world, thinking about motion and making it better so the rest of the world can use it.
00:00.560: So it's more likely that they'll just make the export better for roles than adding the feature to the actual app itself.
00:00.560: Your Honor, may the record show that Alex just pushed eight feet away from his microphone.
00:00.560: I mean, I would say an example of that feature might be to make old to make the current library compatible with the old version of File Cart Pro if you have all the media inside it.
00:00.560: The new QuickTime player, the QuickTime Player 10, which I would never use is a pro, but it's quite good, it is for other people.
00:00.560: made ebooks better and e learning better, but for some reason Adobe seemed to be distracted by other stuff, which I think is a real pity.
00:00.560: came out in April, and I never even had a look at it.
00:00.560: Settings are exactly the same as they were in previous versions.
00:00.560: Yeah, File Cut Pro 10 to look at this menu.
00:00.560: um both paid and free that it's very easy to get uh an old to get a project
00:00.560: And then this thing's called Show Flexo Data Viewer.
00:00.640: Now it's kind of interesting, and you don't you can kind of follow along if you're just listening in your car.
00:00.640: Today, I want to remind you that you, if you have not already, please go check out Premium Beat.
00:00.640: Is it a plug-in?
00:00.640: Wow.
00:00.640: And I think it's a wonderful sort of showcase of what can be done with a motion preset.
00:00.640: Silly but true.
00:00.640: But it's it's very interesting.
00:00.640: We know that using those and hitting the when you have a crash and it says report and ignore, report.
00:00.640: And I know for a fact, because I've been told, they read those things.
00:00.640: So we should use that.
00:00.640: And maybe how it works really well with OS iOS 8.
00:00.640: I hope.
00:00.640: I can't even remember how it worked now, it's been a million years, but you could create hotspots and make it clickable and it would take you to a URL.
00:00.640: which maybe Adobe might be a bit closer to.
00:00.640: So if I could s if one of the things I could do in my app as I was archiving or whatever, consolidate library files, consolidate effects files or effects
00:00.640: working on what the waveform, digital waveform, should look like so you can render it properly on the timeline.
00:00.720: We'll talk about that.
00:00.720: new features are now coming through like that.
00:00.720: So, using late night films, if you go to late night films, I've linked to it recently, tweeted about it recently.
00:00.720: used on a timeline, you should be able to at least run the plug-in without having able to change the settings.
00:00.800: That if it was Adobe or Avid or Autodesk or EditShare, they would actually publicize these things because they're really cool as well.
00:00.800: And the transitions are kind of crazy and wacky and but then you come to the things to do with the generators, which are very
00:00.800: just little editing things to do with the fact that once you've um when you're working with auditions, which I haven't really warmed to even in the last three years, I never really use auditions.
00:00.800: A really big deal because they really did throw everything out and reimagine and rethink everything.
00:00.800: Right?
00:00.800: That's another cool idea.
00:00.880: Oh no.
00:00.880: how Apple chose what features to implement.
00:00.880: No, absolutely.
00:00.880: Go to my website, alex4d.
00:00.960: And total, total, total lockdown.
00:00.960: being able to control how log processing clips work with high end cameras and a new ProRes flavor, which is designed essentially for the most expensive cameras in the world to record good quality video.
00:00.960: But the interesting thing is there are hints of people on the forums and people talking that some of these things, some of these little things have come from individual requests and individual bug reports.
00:00.960: And it's on a knob.
00:00.960: You know, and that way you could drop a plug-in, you could drop an EQ, you could drop a reverb, and you could drop it right onto the roles name in the inspector
00:00.960: On this episode, we talked a lot about plugins.
00:00.960: We were saying i if there weren't users out there, why are all these people making plugins?
00:01.040: And I thought, okay, so I started writing it up and called it File Cut Pro update for professional workflows.
00:01.040: And then complicated stuff to do with textures and interesting stuff to do with making video interact with text in terms of video showing through text or being affected by it.
00:01.040: I mean other reg other things.
00:01.040: There's and it's important to remember that there's isotope RX3 and there's RX3 Advanced.
00:01.040: But that was the closest thing, and right as Media One Hundred released that feature was when Final Cut came out and started to take over the industry.
00:01.040: And I think perhaps, maybe that's why Apple has been has taken such a concerted effort in giving us now we were talking earlier about the
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00:01.120: As the new versions came along, Apple kind of added a little bit at the low end, such as easy export, and more and more at the high end.
00:01.120: You can download, and just so you know, this is not a plug.
00:01.120: You can do it so fast.
00:01.120: He said something about, you know, well, it's kind of a turd, but we can roll it in glitter, so it'll look a little nicer.
00:01.120: I know that makes no sense whatsoever.
00:01.200: software that doesn't work the same for you and me, you're opening up a giant can of worms in terms of like, you know, what it could be, what
00:01.200: Actually, I forgot about that.
00:01.200: So I think our guess it's going to be the middle market for the next version of what it's worth.
00:01.200: Isotope plug-in, isotope plug-in.
00:01.200: But I will say that historically, Apple's been really bad at bringing us all the functionality of the technology
00:01.200: Place where people can actually buy and sell services inside the app itself.
00:01.200: So obviously when they were working on s making multicam work, they had to refer to that in the menu.
00:01.280: You mentioned in the previous podcast that you've got lots of you've found lots of bugs in 10.
00:01.280: If you look at the development of anything, right, if you want to look at the development of an automobile, a home.
00:01.280: Yeah, they're now getting around to stuff in which they can actually answer specific queries and requests from people, I think.
00:01.280: it gives me much greater control right in my timeline.
00:01.280: I think that's a little bit egotistical, but it will be it's a kind of nice thought.
00:01.360: I mean with I find it quick and easy to use.
00:01.360: Wow.
00:01.360: So I think saw that as actually quite a good sign, even though that Andreas didn't want to take the job.
00:01.360: If nothing else, I would love to see the the Timeline Inspector have a have a
00:01.360: All right, Alex.
00:01.440: Boy, I've never heard of that.
00:01.440: Oh, yeah.
00:01.440: So and now have you s other than what we're seeing coming from Resolve, is there any way for Alex to go do his snooping around in the con package contents?
00:01.520: So that's a kind of really cool day to day editing type thing.
00:01.520: So I think it's interesting.
00:01.520: So here's an example of the kind of stuff that you can play back from QuickTime.
00:01.520: So say, for example, you put your GoPro onto a bike and you drive around town, and all that GPS information is recorded into the file.
00:01.520: 9, there was various things like save effects as bundle, add effects to new part as new part to bundle, add effects as new snapshot to bundle, which I think is probably about developing audio effects.
00:01.600: 1 or even ever, I've hardly had any bugs or problems with my copy of Final Cut, unlike most people
00:01.600: Is it a font?
00:01.600: You know, and I granted this is a 30 megahertz Commodore Amiga 2000.
00:01.600: So it was like you know, it made sense to use it on movies, even though people were using it on movies before that.
00:01.600: And then now ten point one point two has improved the midrange, but is now concentrating on things like
00:01.600: And this is what you want to tell the programmers that are going to read this stuff.
00:01.600: Quick time is not uh Apple have not been good at actually burning in things like QuickTime sorry, timecode on top of video.
00:01.600: We've had the discussion about Motion VFX and their plugins.
00:01.680: That's not possible.
00:01.680: So, but it, but I suppose it's the interesting thing: is the fact that
00:01.760: Every week, every week, I'm going to Premium Beat to solve music problems for the projects that I'm working on.
00:01.760: It costs as much as Final Cut used to cost, but it has two modules in it that show up in your Final Cut Pro window just like any other audio plugin.
00:01.760: They can picture it working and they can picture the workflow as opposed to it being a feature and saying, you know, I want to be able to roll this all in glitter.
00:01.760: And because I've had to deal with this, quite often we archive and put away a project and with
00:01.760: I mean, you want that from you know, that's what you want from, you know, Final Cut Library Manager, and you want you want from well, Final Cut itself, but you do want to have a kind of I mean
00:01.760: He's a very generous guy.
00:01.840: Yeah.
00:01.840: And I will say that I am not a huge advocate of all of the vaccines that the doctors want us to take.
00:01.840: I mean, given the fact that Apple don't really have a digital audio workstation app that I think would work for audio post production, it's maybe slightly different when it comes to that.
00:01.840: It's actually still inside, hidden inside Final Cut Pro 10.
00:01.840: I'm still trying to figure out MySpace.
00:01.920: And I go, Well, I'm just opening up these images and I'm rescaling them and I'm re-saving them.
00:01.920: So I go, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, and all of a sudden it
00:01.920: Um that's a possible thing that they could that it's a matter of working out how many programs that would take and how that w would affect the rest of the database.
00:01.920: All that stuff is now available in places like QuickTime or on a web page appearing as an overlay.
00:01.920: So you can actually work and resolve as separate clips and then go back to Final Cut Pro 10 and keep on working on things like titles.
00:01.920: Again, try putting opening of a project on a different machine.
00:01.920: We will be back at the end of the week.
00:02.000: So let's go now to the interview with Alex Golner and his crystal ball.
00:02.000: Well, so Final Cut Pro ten point one point two came out on Friday, late on Friday evening, which is kind of strange, but it came out late on Friday evening.
00:02.000: Okay, let me you know and then they'll start working on that feature.
00:02.000: When you do have a crash where it says report or ignore, report.
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00:02.000: One is called denoiser, one is dialogue denoiser, and the third is the dereverb.
00:02.000: I just thought, okay, I'm going to learn the new version, I'm going to really get into the libraries and to the and understand how they work.
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00:02.000: Well, hold on.
00:02.080: Oh my goodness.
00:02.080: So I I just think it's interesting that the it's a reasonable amount of stuff that's really interesting and nice and cool.
00:02.080: Or at least have multiple apps working with the same database at the same time, even if they're not Final Cut Pro.
00:02.080: We'll talk more later, and thanks for taking the time to chat today.
00:02.160: Welcome to another episode of Final Cut Grill.
00:02.160: Here's a tip for you, Final Cut Pro 10 sleuthers.
00:02.160: But I think maybe the question is why isn't there a Soundtrack Pro X?
00:02.160: Well, the funny I think one of the reasons why I had very few problems in 10.
00:02.240: So there's two lines of code that are conflicting with each other or something.
00:02.240: So that kind of thing, in terms of just making transition is that a little bit easier to or let's say
00:02.240: Could maybe we'll get a sound editor to sort out some of these edits that we've done in during our video edits.
00:02.240: It leads to what they're thinking about and working on, at least in the current series of Final Cut Pro 10.
00:02.320: 12 yesterday.
00:02.320: There's the XY coordinate kind of thing about features versus f personal use and high end use.
00:02.320: When you look at like Richard's list of these are 100 things that need to get done and you know
00:02.320: 9 works with these old ones, just work with those.
00:02.400: You got to hear what he says.
00:02.400: I mean the thing is that I call this relatively low end features because of course, as I said, they wouldn't necessarily be used in a major feature film, but they would be could be used by loads of people at
00:02.400: So on the one hand, somebody says, well, I want there to be a mixer, I want them to be an audio mixer, which effectively probably means a new window with a roles mixer on it and each
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00:02.400: Yeah, this last year at NAB, um, Black Magic showed Rev Resolve Eleven.
00:02.400: Aperture, I thought that program was dead.
00:02.480: Last Friday, we had Sam Messman on again.
00:02.480: Is it anything that's different on your system than mine?
00:02.480: I've never had anything quite that bad on I don't think I've I don't think I've done that keystroke sequence before like
00:02.480: It's not like, you know, Cylon, not so Cylon.
00:02.480: Because in practice these days, what you'd have to do in order to do that is select a load of audio clips.
00:02.480: And you know, and still I save a lot of time using Alex's plug ins for various things.
00:02.560: That's a thing when something bad happens, you actually kind of bury it with something else.
00:02.560: Okay, done.
00:02.640: And it seemed to me it's rather odd.
00:02.640: Is you're going to start with a framework and a boundary of these are the must-have things that we can have before we have a thing.
00:02.640: I think they were listening to it.
00:02.720: Yes, in the colonies of the American colonies of England or the United Kingdom or Great Britain or Northern Ireland.
00:02.720: Like, look what you could do.
00:02.800: What I'll what'll I have a look at?
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00:02.800: And then we get to something like ten point one and it's things are getting better and proxy workflow from ten point one is I think it's pretty cool in terms of switching the display very quickly.
00:02.800: But then after that, I thought I tried a few other things.
00:02.800: Okay?
00:02.800: Wouldn't it be crazy if we were just screwing around while we were recording and I tried something and it actually worked?
00:02.800: Very much so.
00:02.800: Save effects as new snapshot to bundle.
00:02.800: Thanks for joining us here, and thanks for supporting the grill.
00:02.880: That's why I'm thinking, well, if I look at the kind of history of Final Cut Pro from, say, Pino Cup Pro three onwards, I was just thinking about how
00:02.880: It's more in Resolve what it is, is you've got three people who have got different kinds of jobs but working on the same job, which is pretty cool
00:02.960: So it was possible to actually export your audio from Final Cut Pro 3 sorry, Final Cut Pro 4 and put it into Soundtrack and do some multi-track work on it or do some processing with it.
00:03.120: 2, that was a part of the documentation that came with that software.
00:03.120: Or maybe even as have I looked inside uh you know, iMovie because it's the same app, so what's in it?
00:03.120: I think one of the things one of the features that I would love to see and this sounds like this language could refer to what I'm what I would hope there would be
00:03.120: I apologize.
00:03.120: As you should know by now, Alex develops his own plugins and makes them available on his blog, alex4d.
00:03.200: Another guy's complaining, you know.
00:03.200: And I go, Well, I don't know.
00:03.200: Now when I say low and I don't mean bad, I just mean maybe size of budget or production you're working on.
00:03.200: Got that.
00:03.200: Have you read anything about this plugin?
00:03.200: Where do you see the application going?
00:03.200: It's not very difficult, but it'd probably best if you actually used a copy of FileCut Pro 10 if you're going to mess around inside it.
00:03.200: And when I've pressed him on the issue, he goes, Well, it's not that hard.
00:03.280: You're such a nerd.
00:03.280: I think another thing about us reporting our features or complaints or bugs is reporting them from a
00:03.280: com.
00:03.280: I'll I'll get to Facebook eventually.
00:03.360: I don't think yeah, we haven't spoken since I think like March or something like that.
00:03.360: I mean, you're basically, you know, first thing you gotta do, and this is
00:03.360: It's just like editing a picture.
00:03.360: What they're saying is that, say, you've got a project, while you're working on the timeline, you have an assistant who's working on the metadata, who's fixing up the metadata and adding information to clips.
00:03.440: And I'm not going to get too much into it here.
00:03.440: Yes, in terms of helping people out, because I haven't been able to haven't had the problem, so I haven't been able to
00:03.440: Right.
00:03.440: Sure.
00:03.440: Lots of clips work in a complicated video because you want to change all the transitions or you want to apply lots of transitions.
00:03.440: It's magic.
00:03.520: Right, I think that's it's an interesting thing.
00:03.520: And XML is designed to work with things like Resolve and with other developers, work things with Pro Tools.
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00:03.600: I didn't.
00:03.600: That'll be on my new podcast called Chris Fenwick is Angry at the World.
00:03.600: You can now copy one transition from one place, and you can click eighteen different clips in lots of different places, including connected clips, and choose paste, and then all that transition will be pasted onto all those clips.
00:03.600: Yeah.
00:03.600: Yeah, you always have one foot on the other side of the fence.
00:03.600: The Media One Hundred had a um a f
00:03.600: So you've got a media room ram I don't know the names of the rooms, but you essentially you've got different people working in different rooms on the same project, just like in like in a real facilities house, I suppose you could say.
00:03.600: So in the old version and version 10.
00:03.600: That's the number for the letter D, A-L-E-X-4D.
00:03.600: And back six, eight months ago when we started this little experiment called Funnel Cut Grill
00:03.680: Exactly.
00:03.680: So if you ever opened it on another machine, you'd easily you'd have the rendered version of that actual transition and it would actually just be there if you don't make any changes.
00:03.680: co um and iidustrial revolution, uh those are those are same people.
00:03.760: I I I I noticed all the generator uh additions and I thought it was very telling that like alphabetically they're right up at the top of the list.
00:03.760: I never looked inside it.
00:03.760: Great interview coming up on Friday with my friend Joseph Lanaschke.
00:03.840: I don't do very advanced things on it, so I can't I'm not saying I'm really stressing it out enough
00:03.840: Well, I saw that Tom Walskier discovered that if you select one clip and then you paste it onto a connected clip.
00:03.840: And instead of saying, Rag, rab, rap, we're getting apple, we got my crap, we got my
00:03.840: Wasn't it you who said that?
00:03.840: 2 came out, because there's a new version of the XML, and the new version of XML can transfer much more of the Final Cut Pro information to Resolve.
00:03.920: Why have they spent time on that?
00:03.920: You know, maybe it's a coincidence if you other people have said the same thing, but
00:03.920: I know what I'm doing.
00:03.920: I mean, I certainly have done that for Motion.
00:03.920: What I actually do is keep the old version.
00:04.000: It was awesome, great, no spinning beach balls, no anything, except for once.
00:04.000: 1 to film studios or T V stations, they wouldn't necessarily be as interested, although they really matter to editors on a day by day basis.
00:04.000: Gee, it'd be great if we could embed photos.
00:04.000: You know, it's kind of like, what is it?
00:04.000: You know, you either, you know, you can zip it or you just drag it to a new drive.
00:04.000: Now, if you only ever edit on one computer, you'll never run into this.
00:04.000: So there's a thing called Show Flexo Data Viewer.
00:04.080: Stuff to do with optimized media, proxy media, more control over that in the libraries.
00:04.080: Because it comes down to the fact that you can go to a website, so Richard Taylor's website, and you can see a hundred features for file cut
00:04.080: Um we were talking about he was doing some kind of post to do with um three D
00:04.080: Well, I think it's not going to be the way that uh the beta of Resolve came out last week
00:04.160: And I said, Yeah, I don't know, I think I'm asking it to do stuff too fast.
00:04.160: So just to go through yeah, I'm just going to go on this debug menu.
00:04.240: I can make it crash all the time.
00:04.240: And then with Final Cut Pro Final Cut Studio 3 they added things like Final Cut Server and Color and
00:04.240: So you want a whole app to remove sound from a clip.
00:04.240: And then if I need to do an export or a client comes back and says, oh, we need that old edit
00:04.320: It'd be very interesting to see what stuff got crossed off on his latest list.
00:04.480: I love it.
00:04.480: And some people have said that's because it then spending lots of time on very long one hour, two hour clips.
00:04.560: You know, I've been out of the office and out of town and stuff.
00:04.560: But if you wanted to work the old way, then you hold that you just select the position tool and it'll work
00:04.560: And then new features are added.
00:04.560: Oh, and the other thing about the denoiser, it works.
00:04.640: I ask that you support them and like I said
00:04.640: So it's going to be stuff related to the new things
00:04.640: File Cut Pro is made of lots of parts.
00:04.720: And I had scaled my timeline so I could see a bunch of stuff stacked up, and I went to at last sue it.
00:04.720: Where did you now where did you see that that feature?
00:04.720: And I know he's going to use them on his blog.
00:04.720: And I thought, well, what happens if I collect multiple clips?
00:04.720: It isn't.
00:04.720: Are you kidding me?
00:04.720: I mean Adobe should have been created proper ebooks based on things like After Effects and
00:04.720: They mentioned guards and a few other mysterious things.
00:04.720: I'm just going to bring it up now for me.
00:04.800: I'll give you a perfect example of one that a lot of people have been talking about, but very few have been purchasing because it costs as much as my first automobile.
00:04.800: Exactly.
00:04.800: Well, I mean, there's very few references to guards left in File Cut Pro 10.
00:04.880: Happy Monday.
00:04.880: Of course, that's a very simple feature, but it's quite handy for some people in terms of for
00:04.880: Is that I, as soon as the PDF of the manual came out
00:04.880: The problem is nobody nobody really made a good user interface for content creators to create that additional layer of data.
00:04.880: Because the previous version of iMovie, 10.
00:04.880: But if I and then I saw a forum post by somebody on fcp.
00:04.880: It's a free effect that'll do that.
00:04.880: Well, that's what we're going to talk about.
00:04.960: There's so much stuff that wasn't on the list that's really good.
00:04.960: It actually looks like the Star Trek type movie, which is quite cool.
00:04.960: I just look at my notes.
00:04.960: In other words, don't warn me about this.
00:04.960: There's really no reason why I couldn't go over here to my audio plug-ins
00:04.960: Well I will say this, that this idea of additional data inside the QuickTime file is not a new one.
00:04.960: There's still a new template a week or so for some cool people like Mr.
00:04.960: I mean, the funny thing is that I wrote a post about seven days before FileCut Pro ten point one point two came out, predicting quite a lot of the new features.
00:04.960: Now model graph sounds to me like relational databases and stuff to do with SQL, which is
00:04.960: Great.
00:05.120: Hold on, let me fix my mic stan.
00:05.120: But basically, he's tracking all of the things that are going on with subsequent releases of Final Cut Pro.
00:05.120: You know, it's we're kind of past that.
00:05.120: And I think that um I think that clearly I mean, we've spoken about this before in the past, that the the development of Final Cut 10 was
00:05.120: They're not giving me anything for this.
00:05.120: You should be doing this too.
00:05.120: So that was the idea of the multi-user stuff that I found almost three years, around three years ago.
00:05.120: But maybe my hobby horse.
00:05.120: It's like, well, can you give me a pointer or give me a URL where I can go get that?
00:05.120: And there's lots of apps that do different things, say for example, do titles and motion graphics.
00:05.200: Yeah, something like that.
00:05.280: And Alex emailed me the other day and he's like, hey, you might want to take a look at this.
00:05.280: I mean, anytime, you know, you talk about
00:05.280: He goes, I'll tell you what, why don't you bring it back to the office and we'll take a look at it.
00:05.280: And dialogue editing is alright, but it's a bit insulting, it's a bit weird really to say, you know, it's a bit like
00:05.280: So there we go, Apple.
00:05.280: But most of the time I live on Twitter.
00:05.280: Bye-bye.
00:05.280: So, um, and this is something that I've been saying for a long time.
00:05.360: But a very interesting conversation with Alex.
00:05.360: So you've got an audition with five or six clips in it
00:05.360: Because I could say that Final Cut Pro three
00:05.360: So on the one hand, I think a Rolls audio mixer would be great
00:05.360: That's why it's a job.
00:05.440: You know, we've got a vibrant community, we want to make it all better.
00:05.440: Why haven't they spent time on what I want them to spend time on?
00:05.440: No, no, it was Chairman.
00:05.440: And I gotta say still, and I've said it a million times on the air, I love the Grossrink plugin.
00:05.440: Great ecosystem.
00:05.520: And then as the new versions came out, slowly moved slowly slightly into higher budget things such as SAN locations and temp point nerve point one,
00:05.520: I've read about it and it sounds fantastic.
00:05.520: And I'm bearing this in mind, this is the kind of stuff that
00:05.600: And then he does another chart looking at all of the versions of Funnel Cut 10.
00:05.600: It's like, uh, okay, well, whatever.
00:05.600: Cylon, not so Cylon, right?
00:05.600: So QuickTime Player that comes with OS 10 and Yosemite, what it can do is it has
00:05.600: Very cool.
00:05.680: So strange that this is not mentioned given the fact that the
00:05.680: So that's my thing.
00:05.680: And then there's other few other bits and pieces.
00:05.680: So these are kind of hints as to what they're working on and what they're thinking about at the moment, at least with the current series.
00:05.760: And I think that, unfortunately, I think sometimes developers kind of hide behind that.
00:05.760: Crash and he goes, Oh, well, you're going too fast.
00:05.760: But the thing is, but Break Apart Auditions was actually on the PDF.
00:05.760: The other thing that I think is crucial to remind people and to remember just as users ourselves is that
00:05.760: So that's an example of metadata, and it's built into the player.
00:05.760: There's some great stuff out there.
00:05.840: They have been very generous to support what we're doing here on the Grill.
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00:05.840: I can remember many years ago with a with the video toaster
00:05.840: And he goes, Well, show me.
00:05.840: And some things are more straightforward than others to do.
00:05.840: Tell them as much as you can what you were doing as it crashed.
00:05.840: What we're trying to do is we're quite trying to communicate with other composers if we're doing music editing, and we're trying to
00:05.840: Well, I see the next version is about promoting how great ten OS ten point ten is or how great OS ten Yosemite is.
00:05.840: That's perfectly reasonable.
00:05.840: That's a really neat idea, Alex.
00:05.920: Hey, today we're going to talk with Alex Golner again.
00:05.920: They don't really publicly say what's really going on or what they're thinking is because
00:05.920: And as much as possible, I don't actually update my old projects to the new version.
00:06.000: So Final Cut Pro added Life Type.
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00:06.000: 1 is I just didn't really consider updating most of the stuff that I edited in 10.
00:06.000: So I upgrade slightly sooner than most people do.
00:06.080: Lost the whole computer to it.
00:06.080: Oh, yeah.
00:06.160: And I think that, I mean, I've seen many people had been complaining about 10.
00:06.160: So, yeah, I mean, there's other things to do with you can now, when you
00:06.160: They absolutely read those things, they compile them, they collate them, they prioritize them, and they make a list.
00:06.160: Let me ask you a question because I think I a lot of people have talked about this and I'm just going to play Devil's Advocate and sort of pick your brain a little.
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00:06.240: We're going to talk about the evolution of Aperture.
00:06.320: It just it warns you that you're editing your clip between libraries and the clip will be copied.
00:06.320: So the debug menu thing I've um i is the debug
00:06.320: Now Flexo is the internal name for the main part of Final Cut Pro that is Final Cut Pro.
00:06.320: And the old menu said things like create multipeg cam clip, log multi-cap
00:06.400: I did submit a load of things for Motion.
00:06.400: So I was helping out with that, and he told me that Apple offered him a job.
00:06.400: Say, for example, that burns D V D's is actually a bit of old
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00:06.480: I'm editing from clip from library to library.
00:06.560: And the bad thing, of course, was aperture.
00:06.560: So it's important for us as users and users in a broader community
00:06.560: That's my feature of the day.
00:06.560: Because here's a really cool aspect of the QuickTime player
00:06.560: And also S M I L, I think that's the structured, I don't know, multimedia.
00:06.640: Anyway, that was a thousand years ago.
00:06.640: They all seem to be
00:06.640: So if your setup happens to have lots of for some reason crashing in ten point one point two and you've updated your libraries that and you haven't backed them up first, then
00:06.640: So, um, l let's talk about the fence and and looking forward.
00:06.640: I see that.
00:06.720: I'm just telling you, it's amazing.
00:06.720: Just upgrade, upgrade, upgrade.
00:06.720: So it's not that you're sharing exactly the same time line
00:06.720: Yeah, there's all kinds of little lines of text that says, Keep Alex out, keep Alex out.
00:06.720: I could click on it and jump to that transition, or I mean, it kind of does that.
00:06.800: And in the middle, it added a bit of RRT Extreme to make it easier to do more complex compositions.
00:06.800: And I don't know, maybe you'll let me put them on the DCC website as well.
00:06.800: So you can download and try a trial version of it for 10 days, okay?
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00:06.800: Thanks for taking the time to talk today.
00:06.880: How's the editing going?
00:06.880: And this seemed to be a release all to do with high end post production workflows.
00:06.880: You mean like this.
00:06.880: So anyway, yeah, there's some great stuff you should definitely be checking.
00:06.880: And I'm just learning about Facebook at the moment and just trying to get my mind around it.
00:06.960: Now nobody argues it well, nobody.
00:06.960: And then that worked as well.
00:06.960: Now it may be that producers and directors will say to us, oh, can't you just sort out the audio here or can't you fix the music there?
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00:06.960: Export effect browser thumbnails.
00:07.040: So they will suddenly appear as six or seven layers in the timeline sorry, connected clips, I should say, on the timeline.
00:07.040: Because it seems that logic, although wonderful and created by a totally separate group of people
00:07.040: com slash filmtools.
00:07.040: So quite a lot of the my ideas and thoughts and things I discover will appear as pictures and tweets.
00:07.040: Later, later.
00:07.040: And maybe one of these days, Alex will actually start selling his plugins through Nicholas's website there.
00:07.120: And it's it's actually um
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00:07.120: And you put this D-reverb on.
00:07.120: Why do I need Soundtrack Pro?
00:07.120: But what features do you suspect that we will see in
00:07.120: Which means that, say, you put this on the bike and you drive it around a town
00:07.120: Well, Alex, your ability to dig into this stuff always impresses me, and I think it's
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00:07.120: So it's going to be a very interesting conversation.
00:07.200: So, yes
00:07.200: It doesn't really think think I could
00:07.280: You know?
00:07.280: And if you want to press a button, you can make it say I want to change the settings and then you just buy it using your Apple ID and it's all inside the app.
00:07.280: So that was Alex Golner again.
00:07.280: And then there's one of the that's the first tab you'll see there.
00:07.360: We're kind of
00:07.360: But yeah, Noah, I certainly get the impression that people are.
00:07.360: So he mentioned that in his
00:07.360: And I never I thought, well
00:07.360: So that's why maybe iBooksAuthor exists, because I think that really should be an Adobe product.
00:07.360: There was something slightly different, which is to do with
00:07.440: I have
00:07.440: And because it seemed to be that.
00:07.440: Yeah, it's
00:07.440: I mean, w we've talked about this before.
00:07.440: And it sounds like the kind of
00:07.440: You want Advanced, even though you don't want to pay for it because it's $1,200.
00:07.440: Because I use QuickTime Player 7, of course.
00:07.440: Flexo is probably a reference to Futurama or something like that, I think.
00:07.440: Now the more recent version
00:07.440: Cross correlate using audio samples.
00:07.520: Monica Daniel, I don't know.
00:07.520: So
00:07.520: Yeah, maybe Apple could work with Nicholas Bond on that because he's, you know, have FX Factory has
00:07.520: So it used to have
00:07.600: I can't remember exactly when that was.
00:07.600: I still think there's a big
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00:07.600: And that doesn't have to be just plugins.
00:07.680: And the var who sold it to me, he kind of went,
00:07.680: Yeah.
00:07.680: I like that.
00:07.680: But there is a very vibrant plug in community out there for Final Cut X.
00:07.760: And when you get to the report, there's a box that says comment.
00:07.760: I mean, we all know the Cylon knob, right?
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00:07.840: I don't particularly, but the thing is there isn't really a UI.
00:07.840: You know, that that doesn't happen.
00:07.840: There's your user interface right there.
00:07.840: So it's not burnt in.
00:07.840: There's FCPXFX, I think.
00:07.920: Now it actually does a tr the proper kind of roll edit on the other clip.
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00:08.000: Late night films did a blog post about how to make the preferences the super secret
00:08.080: I go, That's what I've been trying to say.
00:08.160: And I think he's going to post this same charts on his blog.
00:08.160: 2 update.
00:08.160: And a lot of people have complained about that.
00:08.160: Then that would be just about possible using fi uh sound File Cut Pro.
00:08.160: I mean in a room like this and the microphone's too bad and there's too much room echo.
00:08.160: If you go to the Timeline Inspector and you click on the Roles sub-menu,
00:08.240: It's interesting.
00:08.240: You still uh you still loving your Final Cut ten?
00:08.240: That's what Final Cut Pro will be for them.
00:08.240: And that's an example of a
00:08.240: And they go, well, what does that mean, roll it all in glitter?
00:08.240: But the way that multi-user timelines work or multi-user projects work and resolve is
00:08.240: If you don't know Joseph Lanaszki,
00:08.320: There's the glimmer effect, I think, is very cool.
00:08.320: Essentially, I just use it for that one little feature.
00:08.320: I'll be expecting an update on Friday.
00:08.320: I run 10.
00:08.320: That will take you to my free plugins, including a
00:08.400: For us it happened at six in the evening for some reason.
00:08.400: It's kind of strange that this thing wasn't even mentioned by Apple as a new feature.
00:08.400: Are you just digging through every menu?
00:08.400: No problem.
00:08.400: Gonna have to work on that.
00:08.400: For example, one of the features, obviously, in Final Cut Pro ten point one is the fact that you can't have
00:08.400: I've got a load more that I'd like to do for that because I don't know if there's enough people.
00:08.480: So that's interesting in terms of Final Cut Pro Classic.
00:08.480: Well, I will tell you this: that the one thing that I have
00:08.560: So I got your email the other day and I and I've been through your your charts and your graphs.
00:08.560: And I thought that was quite interesting that
00:08.560: Site Creations.
00:08.560: There are so many plug-ins that available
00:08.640: So for example, you've got a clip between you know, you've got clip B between A and C.
00:08.640: First digital cinema desktop, in the case of Final Cut Pro HD.
00:08.640: And I think that more and more in the conversations that we have on the show here,
00:08.640: So it requires a little bit of investigation just to see if
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00:08.720: And he sent me these two charts.
00:08.800: He's been on the show a few times, another one of our
00:08.800: No, Cafe.
00:08.800: So you can go and look it up.
00:08.960: And that's one possible reason why it was a Friday.
00:08.960: That's really the copy of motion that's inside Final Cut Pro 10.
00:09.040: And here's another thing that's very important to do.
00:09.040: I have subframe editing and I have access to any plugin I can imagine.
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00:09.120: Why aren't they answering my emails?
00:09.120: I haven't gone to check his site yet.
00:09.120: I would love that.
00:09.120: No, it was Chairman Meow from Australia.
00:09.120: I think it's about to drop any day now.
00:09.120: It could be
00:09.200: But now
00:09.280: They also have all kinds of sound effects too, so you might want to look into that.
00:09.280: But in QuickTime Player X, well, 10 is its, I imagine it's pronounced.
00:09.360: It doesn't go that way around.
00:09.360: How do people find your what's the best way to find your plugins and follow Alex Golner online?
00:09.440: So basically.
00:09.440: So, I mean, I
00:09.440: You know, they still work the same machine.
00:09.440: 9 and 10.
00:09.440: The great thing about
00:09.440: It's not burnt into the video.
00:09.520: It actually sat there for a while and eventually just restarted with a kernel panic.
00:09.520: There you go.
00:09.520: And then I thought, Oh, must do that.
00:09.600: They were in File Cup Pro 10.
00:09.600: Cross correlate using peak data.
00:09.600: One of the greatest benefits of Final Cut 10
00:09.680: You know, that we know
00:09.760: And he's sort of
00:09.760: But yeah, um, so I thought
00:09.760: And it's faster.
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00:09.840: It seems that people are individually
00:09.920: Let's hear some of those because I I don't know that I've come across any of those.
00:10.000: I kind of have an audition in my head and I don't really as I don't really sit next to people often enough for them to
00:10.000: And I've said that before in the past.
00:10.000: I just don't do that.
00:10.080: I think everything you're saying makes sense.
00:10.080: And frankly, I'm kind of tired of listening to them.
00:10.160: But in practice
00:10.160: Interesting.
00:10.240: Now, who is this Andreas Kiel?
00:10.240: And the other tab is
00:10.320: Now,
00:10.320: You're going too fast.
00:10.320: So that's an example of
00:10.320: It's difficult for an individual person to test that.
00:10.320: I mean, just that would be good.
00:10.400: So I haven't found much evidence.
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00:10.480: So what happens is that if somebody if you see a plug in that's paid
00:10.560: So why should
00:10.640: Oh, and also our friends
00:10.720: And if you do that and you want to can invest the time into File Cut Pro ten,
00:10.800: Because then
00:10.800: What I do is I need to work with the old version.
00:10.800: It's overlaid afterwards when it's being shown.
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00:10.880: I mean, I understand it's just a particle generator.
00:10.880: And then that became a blog post that I wrote
00:10.880: iidustrial revolution sells their plugins through FX Factory.
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00:11.040: And of course, Pro is XQ.
00:11.040: Or do you make connections, better connections to
00:11.120: That's much easier to do than creating a roles mixer.
00:11.120: So nobody
00:11.120: 0 and 10.
00:11.200: Keep multiple versions.
00:11.200: x are working on, which is
00:11.200: I use it every single day.
00:11.280: So you're essentially just moving the clip forwards and backwards in the time line.
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00:11.440: Do you see anything in the code and the stuff that you've been looking at?
00:11.520: Like the clouds generator I think is fantastic.
00:11.520: I mean, in the late nineties, you could embed
00:11.680: Probably
00:11.680: Definitely check out FX Factory if you have not.
00:11.840: Now that's perfectly well.
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00:11.920: I don't know what you're talking about.
00:11.920: So the question is, how do you do all that?
00:11.920: Well, he runs Spherico.
00:12.080: Let's say it's called Twitter.
00:12.080: But
00:12.160: But the part that's actually
00:12.240: And then
00:12.240: I'll put a link.
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00:12.480: I also think that
00:12.480: It's the greatest ever.
00:12.560: I just oh news
00:12.720: And I'd like that.
00:12.800: It was mid morning.
00:12.880: But.
00:12.880: Oh, man.
00:12.880: So that's why
00:12.960: And he does one
00:12.960: That's perfectly reasonable.
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