Episode 24
FCG024 - The FCPX.tv Guru (feat. Richard Taylor)
Besides sharing some “Timeline KungFu” Richard and I also go off on a discussion about Grammar, and Internet decorum. We also go into some talk about Screenflow as a screen capture application. As well as the great debate about renaming your media in the Finder or not. We also share a product idea that some enterprising programmer could make for the FCPX community.
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Featuring
- Chris Fenwick
- Richard Taylor - @RichardTaylorTV
Transcription
00:00.001: Welcome to the Monday edition of Funnel Cut Grill 024, I believe it is.
00:00.001: It's like, I just feel like I'm having a bad day.
00:00.001: I'd have to remember which event, you know, two or three years from now, which event Aunt Matilda was in, what family event it was, where it is.
00:00.080: is essentially bounce a clip off of the bin by using the match frame.
00:00.160: You know, I think what I want to do, uh I always mention, I always thank people about their uh comments on on uh um uh what is it, the iTunes.
00:00.160: So Richard, thanks for doing this.
00:00.160: It says ratings and review, and you click there and give it some stars and stuff.
00:00.160: How okay then then why the why the passionate in uh interest in Final Cut?
00:00.160: The Final Cut Pro manual was 400 pages.
00:00.160: That's what happens.
00:00.160: That I want plus I like I like JK and L.
00:00.160: I remember the first app I had that had the ability to change them which was I think I want to say the Media One hundred, but I could be wrong.
00:00.160: I'd go to sleep and I'd wake up in the morning and go, Oh no, I gotta re I gotta totally rethink that.
00:00.160: I mean, I don't teach full-time, but I teach part-time college-level.
00:00.160: user interface and I teach them you know I teach them tricks and tips that you know I've developed um and they they're always
00:00.160: That's correct.
00:00.160: its origin is the very first Final Cut Pro users group that was started by Kevin Monaghan, who now is a full-time employee at Adobe.
00:00.160: And it's yeah, no, it i it's very upstanding on their part because they could very well say, Oh, no, if you're not talking about Adobe products, we don't want you in the building.
00:00.160: Hit Shift F.
00:00.160: After Effects, as well.
00:00.160: you know now I of course I you know the ten point one update was uh I thought it was great right but I mean we should have had unified libraries from the very beginning
00:00.160: I've refused to use the muddish compound clips for timelines.
00:00.160: Leary of, I'm like, I don't know if this is going to end well.
00:00.160: So they they keep they keep changing things and it certainly is the log the library is absolutely better.
00:00.160: I have, I believe I have very nice presentations when I do speaking things, but I also use it as a character generator.
00:00.160: If I'm going to generate page after page after page of bullets and charts and things like that, I'm going to make those in keynote.
00:00.160: typo correction and I just kick them all out again because it happens in like it usually it will export thirty or forty slides
00:00.160: If you recorded for ten minutes, it it would take ten minutes to save the file, which was ridiculous.
00:00.160: Let's go back to Fauno Cut.
00:00.160: falling asleep when I was skimming through this section 'cause I'd realize there's ten clips here and I didn't select anything.
00:00.160: So you do s some organization in the finder level, and I do the same thing.
00:00.160: the same way we're talking about.
00:00.160: That's correct.
00:00.160: That's my theory.
00:00.160: Yeah.
00:00.160: You rename a library, it changes in the finder.
00:00.160: Well, but in Final Cut Semi you also could rename the clips and they would rename them the finder.
00:00.160: That I can rescale and make big so they can see from the back of the room.
00:00.160: The heights of lanes, not all together, to adjust them individually.
00:00.160: And your diddle, diddle, diddle, diddle, cat and the fiddle, and now you want to see it on and off.
00:00.160: The inspector, the default inspector window, and then you could turn on and off the color.
00:00.160: Which I got to say, very handy.
00:00.160: Foo, and there's a lot of that that you do in Final Cut, and Richard is actually kind of an expert at that.
00:00.240: Um actually came because iMovie didn't have multicam, not surprising.
00:00.240: It is such an amazing resource.
00:00.240: I started listening.
00:00.240: Yeah, we just hooked up our Final Cut our Mac Pro too.
00:00.240: and I'd spent thirty grand on it.
00:00.240: Avid said that about it, Abbott editors then said it about Final Cut.
00:00.240: And then FinoCut 7 occasionally, but mostly FinoCut 10.
00:00.240: So I've adopted like my zoom in and out on all three of those, JK and L on all three of those, select all, deselect
00:00.240: Logic Pro and Digital Performer, which one has the most shortcuts right in your toolbox by default?
00:00.240: zoom in and zoom out 'cause I do that all the time.
00:00.240: Yeah.
00:00.240: Philosophy about it.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: And maybe I was just messing around with X keys.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: Fundamentally, that's a brilliant that's a brilliant gimmick that they have going there.
00:00.240: All of your windows will be right where you want them, and all of your keyboard shortcuts will be right there.
00:00.240: Yeah, the the whole cloud workgroup thing, I gotta say, it's r a real point of contention for me.
00:00.240: Spoke at the SF Cutters User Group meeting.
00:00.240: basic like you know After Effects one hundred one or maybe even zero point five for video editors.
00:00.240: Oh, that sounds really good.
00:00.240: I teach the advanced class there.
00:00.240: Yeah, I think the real issue there is how do you interpret the word professional?
00:00.240: you know, to somebody else's blog or you post something on the Facebook, you are actually interacting with real honest to goodness human beings.
00:00.240: But they also know that from a PR standpoint, that would be horrible and just childish and ridiculous.
00:00.240: It is a San Francisco Cutters.
00:00.240: But Kevin wrote some of the first books about Final Cut Pro back in the 1.
00:00.240: asking permission, but I just I use Final Cut.
00:00.240: I want to copy a clip from one timeline and paste overwrite it into another timeline.
00:00.240: And you just you're essentially just slipping a piece of media underneath all those filters.
00:00.240: Apple see it clip and then pull the clip down from the browser, replace and then paste in all the attributes again.
00:00.240: I think so.
00:00.240: Ah, well, if you were, you could do all this stuff in Photoshop.
00:00.240: No, I'm not going to do that.
00:00.240: one of your screen grabs, it just screams that it's a Richard screen grab because of the yellow high the green highlight that you use.
00:00.240: That's true.
00:00.240: Yeah.
00:00.240: So the fact that we had an event folder and a project folder, I never used projects.
00:00.240: XML and the project.
00:00.240: If they're hidden in the library, then but every time you make a project, new folder, new folder, new folder, new folder, new folder, new event file, they call it historically, they call it
00:00.240: It still creates one of those every time you do it.
00:00.240: I could at least go back to my version four and only have to, you know, redo half a day's worth of work or something.
00:00.240: If I'm doing short stuff, I do it in compound clip timelines.
00:00.240: You know, I make versions constantly.
00:00.240: The other issues with project versus compound clip timelines is you can't scrub a project.
00:00.240: You cannot add a project timeline to another project timeline.
00:00.240: Otherwise, I wouldn't stick with it.
00:00.240: From the cannabis?
00:00.240: pixels away from the thing next to it, which is very similar to the sixty two pixels that are up in the upper left-hand corner.
00:00.240: It is possible to do the animations in Keynote and kick out a QuickTime movie.
00:00.240: and then import those into Final Cut, lay them out and do you know layout dissolves between them.
00:00.240: and make a you know, fix a typo or change something or add a little s whatever needs to be added.
00:00.240: And you're good to go.
00:00.240: Yeah, basic stuff, but I mean zooming in, zoom out is nice.
00:00.240: Screen flow than bringing it into Final Cut or anywhere in Zoom, because then it just gets pixelated.
00:00.240: Screen capture utility, and it also has an editor that's built into it.
00:00.240: Phenomenal on a user interface.
00:00.240: it actually records a very, very small file that's easy to transport.
00:00.240: Represented in the time line, I can immediately see, oh, this is the B camera.
00:00.240: You know, a lot of times we're doing very short edits and file names are very truncated, but the first two or three characters are almost always there.
00:00.240: You know, A7 dinner event.
00:00.240: And the reason I do that is at that point I can very quickly ascertain not only what I've used, but what I haven't used.
00:00.240: But there might be some nuggets in there if I need one more shot from that event or something.
00:00.240: And go and find it.
00:00.240: And we were trying to find something, and I said, Well, can we check the database?
00:00.240: And I said, because it's too slow.
00:00.240: disk tracker where at the end of a project I can just go snapshot this bin structure, not bins, but this keyword structure.
00:00.240: And it would say, oh, that was at the event called Matilda's 50th birthday.
00:00.240: There you go.
00:00.240: It doesn't change in the finder.
00:00.240: But we had to wait till ten point three.
00:00.240: Like, okay, blew my mind.
00:00.240: First, before you actually started importing, and a lot of people would just go, Yeah, I want to import my stuff, and now what do I do?
00:00.240: auto zoom feature for a lane.
00:00.240: Favorite keyboard shortcuts to add, and I learned this from Ben Skin Consoli when I interviewed him.
00:00.240: Engage, you have to actually assign it to something that allows you to toggle on and off the color, all the color correction.
00:00.240: How about having multiple color correction scopes windows open at the same time?
00:00.240: And he actually referred to you as Richard Scrolling Timeline Taylor.
00:00.240: The Final Cut Pro request list, not in 10.
00:00.240: I find that quite often I use my little scrolly wheel on the mouse.
00:00.240: to throw it into the mix yet.
00:00.240: And I actually used it to I used LogMeIn, the screen sharing utility, to log into my other edit system, which is across town at the client's office.
00:00.240: Mount Drive thirty two, I need to make some edits on it.
00:00.240: Oh yeah.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: And they were wonderful.
00:00.240: And then next to it is a um just a Le C big disc.
00:00.240: I could go over and work on it while I'm repairing the other thing on the uh on the um off of the the backup version of it.
00:00.240: Freelance?
00:00.240: Very cool.
00:00.240: I am continually inspired by the people that I talk to.
00:00.240: It's been a great learning process for me as well.
00:00.240: Well, the good thing is it's getting the word out about how good Final Cut Pro is.
00:00.240: thing when you're talking about something that's so visual in an audio podcast.
00:00.320: They are really cool, very clever.
00:00.320: Not what people said it was or should have been.
00:00.320: Particularly shouted at to look at FCPX again.
00:00.320: It's great stuff and frankly I have heard rumors from Inside Apple that they actually carry around printed versions of it.
00:00.320: And then I had to master something in like the mid nineties and I got Digital Performer, which is an audio program, and I mastered it in that.
00:00.320: So, I took some classes at a local community cable TV system, you know.
00:00.320: Five, I think?
00:00.320: Yeah, I got that.
00:00.320: And then I got the trainer certification starting with five.
00:00.320: My version of 7 didn't stop working when 10 came out.
00:00.320: you know, I could edit on any of them if I spent the time with them, but I don't want to divide it up amongst three editors.
00:00.320: At one, and frankly, it's better for my mind, I think.
00:00.320: And it works across all three, so I don't have to remember different shortcuts.
00:00.320: I think I modify the audio ones to match the video.
00:00.320: it's easier to just say, you know what, I'm going to leave everything default.
00:00.320: you know, and it back then it was a lot harder to move shortcuts around.
00:00.320: Yeah, yeah, I mean, so it it, I mean, you don't have to, if you're stuck on a plane or whatever, you could, you'll still have them
00:00.320: Got into it kind of hot and heavy with somebody about what's that?
00:00.320: Right.
00:00.320: They're always, you know, they hear things and we have that discussion.
00:00.320: versus Avid versus Premier.
00:00.320: Part of the reason I liked it is I could see the future shadow that it was casting.
00:00.320: You know, oh, and it's really funny because you always get the, well, I heard, well, what I've heard is, and it's like, yeah, well, you know, that's not really true.
00:00.320: It was casting a shadow in the future, and I could see that.
00:00.320: And it's it's like a hobby, it's like a blood sport or something.
00:00.320: The nature of the internet to be negative.
00:00.320: And most of the questions I had afterwards were people coming up to me going, Hey, can I talk to you about Final Carten?
00:00.320: Well, Adobe is amazingly gracious.
00:00.320: there's a few of those little tips that you have.
00:00.320: people write and and imply things that they would not say to somebody's face.
00:00.320: The trick is, so normally you would go to the first time line.
00:00.320: Excuse me, you're copying it from the main storyline.
00:00.320: So you're not technically doing a copy, but you're getting the same media.
00:00.320: So it's paste attributes, but it's the attribute of the content.
00:00.320: So if you can paste attributes of content, which you used to be able to do in 7, you can leave all of the filters alone.
00:00.320: Those are the kind of things that we need improved.
00:00.320: well laid out and not again, not only the tips, but the request section.
00:00.320: we're buying every version.
00:00.320: But I don't know a lot of people that actually bought every version.
00:00.320: attitude of Adobe, he came on and I got to say, I wasn't necessarily completely friendly.
00:00.320: this version of it, six point whatever, Creative Cloud six point six, and you can't go beyond that point if you stop paying.
00:00.320: at the update, the 10.
00:00.320: looking in a lot of these features other NLEs already have.
00:00.320: Some of the upgrades, I personally am really excited about because I dealt with it before.
00:00.320: history.
00:00.320: A couple of small little things that a project timeline has that a compound clip timeline does not have.
00:00.320: Right.
00:00.320: And it doesn't do that.
00:00.320: in terms of a file becoming corrupted, does it make it easier to go back to a previous version?
00:00.320: And then they'll see version seven.
00:00.320: I don't think there's any way that you can interpret that and not have it mean anything other than, yeah, we totally screwed that up and we changed it.
00:00.320: To me, I see that as a real commitment to make it better regardless of what it might mean.
00:00.320: Do you use keynote at all?
00:00.320: I love the guides in if I was not going to be a video editor, I would put on my keynote cap and just say I make keynote presos for people now.
00:00.320: And obviously, it only works if a build a dissolve build sequence is acceptable to the client, but I will kick them out into a folder in my job folder.
00:00.320: I will name it A1 underscore client name underscore date it was shot, which is generated in the metadata of the card.
00:00.320: Right.
00:00.320: On many occasions in the past, when there's specific things that I'm looking for.
00:00.320: And I can do it at a glance, right?
00:00.320: That's another issue, project.
00:00.320: The media, I don't want the camera name.
00:00.320: So NeoFinder is a database.
00:00.320: So, I can search in NeoFinder at any point for Matilda.
00:00.320: because um Disc Tracker is wicked fast.
00:00.320: So Disk Tracker takes a snapshot of my directory structure, but not the files.
00:00.320: But to the finder.
00:00.320: Uh tell me, how do you really feel about scrolling playheads?
00:00.320: You know, a big one for me, but it's not the only one.
00:00.320: Right.
00:00.320: Oh, that's yeah.
00:00.320: You don't think that a scrolling timeline would be handy?
00:00.320: parked at a client's office and here's the irony most powerful Mac on the planet because it's 12 cores and everything
00:00.320: And it used to be free, now you have to pay for it, but I still think it's worth it paying for it.
00:00.320: And you don't have to have a what's it called, a static IP.
00:00.320: Yeah, I think I'm gonna bust it out.
00:00.320: And I think I'm going to try and sell one.
00:00.320: So it matches the Thunderbolt 2 on the Mac.
00:00.320: And I was able to remount and repair the drive with no issues whatsoever.
00:00.320: is dealing with producing the podcasts, the two different shows that I'm doing.
00:00.320: That's not bad.
00:00.320: Ah, okay.
00:00.320: At that time, there were about 10,000 podcasts out, and Apple chose fifty two, and I was one of the fifty two that they chose to celebrate.
00:00.320: Well, the the mechanics of it with the RSS feed and the naming, I you know, probably Adam Curry and Dave.
00:00.320: By all means, if you're enjoying the show, tell your friends.
00:00.320: Right.
00:00.320: Absolutely.
00:00.400: Program.
00:00.400: you know, era when, you know, before Steve had come back.
00:00.400: Okay.
00:00.400: Edits.
00:00.400: So that actually makes a lot of sense to me.
00:00.400: Kind of amazed at some of those things.
00:00.400: And had nothing positive to say whatsoever, you know, that's not being professional.
00:00.400: It's again, it's just it's I think it's indicative of something that's wrong that I don't have words to describe yet, but I'm working on it.
00:00.400: When you type things in a box and hit send, or you post things on a blog, or you respond.
00:00.400: stuff and I kept tabbing back to Final Cut to show my After Effect stuff playing.
00:00.400: Share that really like excite you.
00:00.400: overwrite.
00:00.400: But they why don't they have that?
00:00.400: Yeah, you'd have to that that's not yeah, you'd have to do that too.
00:00.400: the paste contents attribute.
00:00.400: Yes, Skitch is a utility.
00:00.400: I can remember this one guy says, he goes, So what are some of the best upgrades?
00:00.400: So I just stopped using them.
00:00.400: when they're in the compound clip timeline, they're just all in one file.
00:00.400: If I want, I can kick out a single slide very simply, or frankly, it's so fast, quite often, even with 20, 30, 40 slides, quite often I'll just say, yeah, kick them all out.
00:00.400: Right.
00:00.400: What Screenflow does is it records the is it OpenGL?
00:00.400: It's very clever, whatever it is.
00:00.400: And then the original file name.
00:00.400: I know that I've heard that NeoFinder has the ability to like thumbnail things.
00:00.400: Red-headed stepchild of Neofinder, which is much more simplified, called Disk Tracker.
00:00.400: So that I can say, what was the event called that had all of those great keyworded shots of Matilda?
00:00.400: So you have two libraries, one with the original name, one with the ni the new name?
00:00.400: Yeah, that's another issue.
00:00.400: Reveal the video animation thing.
00:00.400: The guy that worked with Adam?
00:00.480: I don't know if you've ever heard that.
00:00.480: So what is w why why the passion?
00:00.480: Well, I didn't listen to him.
00:00.480: So this was that was my first computer, a G3.
00:00.480: Well, many people did that.
00:00.480: That's when I got my first certification as a trainer.
00:00.480: As a certified trainer, were you caught off guard like the rest of us with 10?
00:00.480: Seven was legacy.
00:00.480: six to ten in final cut.
00:00.480: More difficult.
00:00.480: In popularity and in stock price.
00:00.480: Well, I would like to pick your brain a little bit, if you don't mind, or give you the forum.
00:00.480: And I've put a vignette on it and I've adjusted the color a little bit and whatever.
00:00.480: And he took it all in stride, and he goes, Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
00:00.480: That's a feature?
00:00.480: I don't know.
00:00.480: The compound clip timeline is completely fine.
00:00.480: I think it's a I I actually think that it is a huge um I don't know, I'll call it a feather in Apple's cap that ultimately the process of
00:00.480: I love Keynote.
00:00.480: Faster than I can go in and say, only export from slide 13 to slide 13.
00:00.480: and import those into Final Cut.
00:00.480: That's a good question.
00:00.480: This is like a DSLR shoot, okay?
00:00.480: for each of my cards.
00:00.480: I want to search for it in the finder.
00:00.480: 50 or 60 hard drives.
00:00.480: And I bump it up a little bit from the default.
00:00.480: The directory structure of the drive.
00:00.480: import window with renaming capability that is beyond our expectation at this level right now.
00:00.480: Now I think Philip said that there Philip Hodgett said that there Logic teams in Germany.
00:00.480: Raid that they have Thunderbolt raid they had.
00:00.480: That's amazing.
00:00.480: Well, I will be getting a Mad Pro at work pretty soon, that's true.
00:00.480: It's been reliable and everything?
00:00.480: But you know, like this idea of pasting, paste overwrite.
00:00.560: This is it's the one like legitimate like feedback that you get and you realize, oh good, I'm not just talking to the ether.
00:00.560: You mean with FonoCup?
00:00.560: Yeah, that was a real blow to the Mac community.
00:00.560: And I said, do I get a PC or a Mac?
00:00.560: The 1.
00:00.560: I know I didn't get into it till about two or three even.
00:00.560: Yeah.
00:00.560: Like for enable, for example, it's V, but I have my V key as edits.
00:00.560: In the training that you do, do you get into infrastructure at all?
00:00.560: nonsense in the class right from the beginning and establish that it's you know it's a great program.
00:00.560: And it's not even necessarily anonymity, it's perceived anonymity.
00:00.560: Yeah, on our other show, Digital Cinema Cafe, Al Mooney was a guest of ours, and it was great.
00:00.560: who who can we credit for coming up with the idea of just abandoning the pro uh projects and just editing in a compound clip?
00:00.560: So every every data card I just did a thing down in Southern California where I think in four days we generated maybe fifteen or eighteen data cards.
00:00.560: And so to in that respect, it's organized a little bit in the finder.
00:00.560: Like you could do in seven.
00:00.560: Could be referenced by multiple libraries.
00:00.560: Here's my theory, and I'm purely speculating.
00:00.560: And that was your choice?
00:00.560: Now I have two Mac Pro Pros up there with one is an edit machine, one is a render machine.
00:00.560: Wow.
00:00.560: Very cool.
00:00.640: And we were doing reel to reel editing.
00:00.640: Oh yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense.
00:00.640: Exactly.
00:00.640: Once you log in, you get all of your window layouts and your keyboard shortcuts.
00:00.640: Apple has ridden let's face it, since 1997 when Steve came back, Apple has been on this meteoric rise both
00:00.640: And is there a trick to that?
00:00.640: And it has very good, not excellent, but very good text handling capabilities.
00:00.640: And then I will shuttle through it, clip things that I like, bump them up a layer, not a track, but a layer.
00:00.640: I have to launch the event, look for it, rather than I want to do it at the finder level.
00:00.640: prior to importing my media?
00:00.640: Exactly.
00:00.640: They gave us dual monitors, but it's not it's not as effective as it could be.
00:00.640: amazing that they don't have that because no everybody else has it.
00:00.640: Yeah.
00:00.640: And pretty impressive.
00:00.640: which is potentially quite costly.
00:00.640: By the way, I listened to your sh your your podcast as well.
00:00.640: It'll do them some good.
00:00.720: February 24th.
00:00.720: Is that not a standard that's a video thing, JTL?
00:00.720: That's true.
00:00.720: I can very easily create a series of stills that build on one piece at a time.
00:00.720: And that's why it's so good.
00:00.720: And I I'll say prepend in front of the camera's card name, and not card name, but the file name of the that comes out of the camera.
00:00.720: And what I typically do, and this is not I am not fully embracing the Final Cut 10 ecosystem.
00:00.720: Okay.
00:00.720: everything but the actual media and make me a snapshot.
00:00.800: editing but audio wise for you know since the nineties.
00:00.800: If you're listening and you're kind of new to this, you don't have to necessarily retain all of this.
00:00.800: But you still got to realize every time you make a project, it's a new folder in the Finder.
00:00.800: You can do some of that a little bit with rolls.
00:00.800: And when I went into the edit suite, that's what it was there.
00:00.880: Richard does like little screen grabs.
00:00.880: So I took that, and that was actually premiere.
00:00.880: I'm still working on that one.
00:00.880: then shift F, change time lines, D, and then select it and paste attributes.
00:00.880: And the fact that a company of that size and that stature would make that radical a change one version later
00:00.880: So why, you know, I'm going to like we used to have, I have a, you know, one with the effect on, one with the effect off, or I want to see two clips that are color corrected in the in the timeline I'm talking about, not one
00:00.880: I mean you can't hear the audio, but I will offer that to everybody.
00:00.880: You know, a newbie.
00:00.960: So so you um I I've noticed on your website that you're a certified trainer.
00:00.960: No, not at all.
00:00.960: But it's going to ripple paste, right?
00:00.960: Yeah, it's true.
00:00.960: I think the worst offender was SnapZ Pro because it was so slow.
00:00.960: Well the thing is, if you had if you could catalog all your libraries that way, that would be beneficial.
00:00.960: You know, this this tabbed this tabbed color correction is just, you know, bab tab, tab, tab, tab, tab, tab, back and forth, back and forth.
00:00.960: We maintain like five different edit systems around the office.
00:00.960: Well, it's kind of embarrassing, but I I'm in the chair that I'm sitting at a minimum of probably 60 hours a week.
00:00.960: I would recommend that if you get lost listening, sit down with the application and do some of the things that he was talking through.
00:01.040: C U buff skier.
00:01.040: You know, I I've talked with a few editors.
00:01.040: But like even I even adopt I use Logic Pro and I use Digital Performer, which is Moto's audio software.
00:01.040: And so it actually went really well.
00:01.040: If you had an infrastructure that Final Cut Pro 10 did not support, I understand that.
00:01.040: Ah, okay, that's the an the uh the arrows and stuff.
00:01.040: That's what I don't like.
00:01.040: Changing that metaphor from the event/slash project to the unified library.
00:01.040: So I that is another bit of finder organization I do.
00:01.040: And then I can just, you know, I keep track of everything with that.
00:01.040: I'm staff.
00:01.040: Thank you.
00:01.120: Exactly.
00:01.120: And I use that more than I do the enable, disable, so I switch that to the V key.
00:01.120: Adopt 10 more.
00:01.120: You know, and if you want to, you know, pretend i if if if that's what you want to think that's fine but i'm i'll tell you flat out that's just not true like the whole professional thing i mean of course professionals are using final card pro
00:01.120: They're confident in their product and they want people to buy their product and they're going to tell you good stuff about their product.
00:01.120: And there've been many times where the end client will get to see like maybe the first version they see is version four.
00:01.120: I find it very interesting that that is not back yet.
00:01.120: Years I did that.
00:01.200: The prompt, I got my shiny new late twenty three, really twenty fourteen eight core D seven hundred Mac Pro.
00:01.200: Six?
00:01.200: So, uh and you got Final Cut like one like 4.
00:01.200: In Avid, it's edit, the V key.
00:01.200: And the media doesn't have to be mounted.
00:01.200: That's basically exactly what I'm saying.
00:01.200: And the renaming importing mystery window that we used to have in Final Cut 7
00:01.200: I got to have another copy somewhere else.
00:01.280: 5 was a big upgrade.
00:01.280: Absolutely.
00:01.280: Yeah, just leave that stuff alone.
00:01.280: Ah, you're going to go back to the next timeline, hit the D key.
00:01.280: I I love the um now, can I get me talking about screen flow.
00:01.280: I basically, in the olden days, we had our tapes that we would bring into the edit suite.
00:01.280: They're all labeled by what camera it was, A, B, C, or D, and then what card it was from that camera, so A1, B1, C1, D1.
00:01.280: I stopped my edit and I um it actually took me about ten hours to repair that drive, but I got on the phone with uh Promise.
00:01.280: And the guy's like, No, no, no, no, calm down.
00:01.280: R6 onto the Thunderbolt, the Lacy.
00:01.280: I have a podcast.
00:01.360: I I was having a conversation with Philip Hodgetts, and I asked him if there was a difference between a compound clip
00:01.360: So you're not doing like a massive rename like I because I'll rename a hundred clips at a time.
00:01.360: That could be some of it, but the other issue is why can't you name stuff before you bring it in?
00:01.360: So if Final Cut renamed the files in the Finder, I wouldn't have to do that.
00:01.360: And that thing is so it's too tall.
00:01.360: While it's playing.
00:01.360: It's uh it's it was it's um Roots Rock Radio, rrradio.
00:01.360: And the first year, Apple had a birthday celebration for the first year anniversary of podcasting.
00:01.440: Yeah.
00:01.440: I think it hurt my head so much.
00:01.440: Why do we have guidelines at this point?
00:01.440: Yeah.
00:01.520: That's one of my favorites.
00:01.520: As long as that computer is on the Internet, I'm going to be able to find it through LogMeIn.
00:01.520: I got to get going.
00:01.600: Thanks for joining us on the little show here.
00:01.600: I'm not going to pay that, Bransome.
00:01.600: That's the rest of your life.
00:01.600: Yeah, I I do s I do similar stuff with uh Screenflow.
00:01.600: What about a better keyframe editor?
00:01.600: Over a million downloads so far.
00:01.680: It probably was five.
00:01.680: And there was basically there's no way somebody is going to tell me that a $1,000 piece of software was going to be as good or better than my $30,000 thing.
00:01.680: Take care.
00:01.760: And I highly recommend this website.
00:01.760: So, how does the name Matilda get associated with a video clip in the Finder?
00:01.760: Sure.
00:01.760: I wasn't expecting that.
00:01.840: Does that make sense?
00:01.840: But they can't you know, they have to have a price on, I think, on Final Cut Pro.
00:01.840: So, what do you use it for?
00:01.840: I said, oh, that's interesting.
00:01.920: I'm sure they're great pieces of software.
00:01.920: This is what I think that I've thought, I've given this some thought, and I think this is the theory behind that.
00:01.920: And then when we got it, it was awesome.
00:01.920: I've had them for all through the, you know, forever in all my audio applications.
00:01.920: I did my first edit on it.
00:01.920: Yeah.
00:02.000: Is your background in television and film production?
00:02.000: I mean, I worked on an avid a bit too.
00:02.000: Yeah.
00:02.000: And it's very difficult to have intelligent conversations with people that don't know the rules of the words.
00:02.000: 1 update from inside the Final Cut Pro Clubhouse, it's a massive update.
00:02.000: And we were back and forth with that.
00:02.000: Yes, I do.
00:02.000: So, thanks for listening.
00:02.080: It contains it in one file, in the one event file.
00:02.160: So I've adopted a kind of a amalgam of shortcuts.
00:02.160: I don't know.
00:02.160: And that eliminated that whole separate project folder you have to maintain and all that.
00:02.160: Do you organize your media, if you have a bigger project, in the Finder before you bring it into FaunoCut or in combination?
00:02.160: No, no.
00:02.240: I've heard from people on the original beta team.
00:02.240: It's easier to say negative things than positive things.
00:02.240: Once you have the screen grab, you can draw on it and stuff.
00:02.240: Contrast that to the fact that our ten point one upgrade didn't cost us a penny.
00:02.240: Right, that's what I'm saying.
00:02.240: Oh, yeah, me too.
00:02.240: Right, right.
00:02.240: And the main thing is to be able to have access to read what was in those libraries regardless of whether or not that drive is mounted.
00:02.320: Oh, look at that.
00:02.320: Yeah, and so you can easily zoom 200, 300% and have it look
00:02.320: You know, they've been very good.
00:02.400: They were very expensive.
00:02.400: That's why you got to import and export those keyboard shortcuts.
00:02.400: Well, what I meant was the people that were trashing Final Card Pro.
00:02.400: Absolutely.
00:02.400: I don't know.
00:02.480: Do you do you just use the plus and the minus?
00:02.480: The rest are defaults until I come across one that I want to make a single keyboard or switch them around or whatever.
00:02.480: Anything you want to share in particular?
00:02.480: It's actually cheaper to rent it now or lease it or whatever it is.
00:02.480: Batch rename it as you're bringing it in.
00:02.480: You rename an event, it changes in the finder.
00:02.480: Yeah, I mean, we don't want to overtax those new Mac Pros, do we?
00:02.560: Do you think that affects the performance?
00:02.560: What happened to five and six?
00:02.560: And the reason I put the A1 or B7 or whatever in there is when I'm in the timeline and I'm looking at file names that are
00:02.560: Right.
00:02.560: Exe that's exactly what I do.
00:02.560: I have a conference call to get on, but thank you, Richard, so much for rearranging your schedule in the day to be able to make time to do this.
00:02.560: Bye.
00:02.640: Oh, that's because half of my keyboard shortcuts aren't working.
00:02.640: I've also taught for Future Media and DC and Chicago and local high school.
00:02.640: Right.
00:02.720: We're seeing the same thing with Final Cut 10 now as we saw with the original Final Cut.
00:02.720: Well, it's it's it's what I think I use Fonka more.
00:02.720: Well, there's no paste overwrite command.
00:02.720: How about window layouts?
00:02.720: It only zooms the lane you're working in.
00:02.720: Yeah, I have three of the R6s, the Thunderbolt 1 version.
00:02.720: What I what I've decided to do and what I and in all the suites what we have is we have one of the R sixes
00:02.720: Just on a bare hard drive or something.
00:02.720: Yeah.
00:02.800: Now, if you're zooming in on a video that's playing, you have the limitation of the video file.
00:02.800: I don't want to have to remember what Anna Caprono event it's in and which family event she was in, etc.
00:02.800: I don't want Final Cut Pro's name.
00:02.800: And he goes, yeah, kind of.
00:02.800: I know you know how to use it.
00:02.800: So if there's somebody in the San Francisco Bay Area that wants to pick up an R six, let me know.
00:02.880: The tips section is amazing.
00:02.880: I I was expecting I mean you know, when ten first came out, I always use this as a parameter
00:02.880: So you're obviously modifying keyboard shortcuts.
00:02.880: I think that's a great shortcut.
00:02.880: I can't remember.
00:02.880: I was like, I can't make it perfect.
00:02.880: No, just two timelines with that arrow thing back and forth.
00:02.880: I think it's 128 by 128.
00:02.880: It can still be in the closet or in the storage locker or the vault or whatever.
00:02.880: No, I'm just teasing.
00:02.960: And did you do it early on, or did you resist?
00:02.960: But they really, you know, I teach adults and student, college student level both, and they're always
00:02.960: Exactly, insert paste.
00:02.960: I don't know.
00:02.960: I like keynote.
00:02.960: I think my favorite implementation of guides in the Apple universe is Keynote.
00:02.960: Yeah.
00:03.040: He has a few videos under the video section, but he also does these little tips.
00:03.040: And when we bring in freelancers that don't do that, they're like, oh no, I've got to load my key.
00:03.040: And Claudia Krask from SF Cutters asked me to come in and do a very
00:03.040: I'm thinking of just doing redoing the talk again straight into Screenflow and putting it on my website because I got a lot of nice response from it.
00:03.040: So the SF Cutters group is it was actually it is based on it is
00:03.040: So when I wanted to show how the animations that I was making were would work, I would kept tabbing back to Final Cut.
00:03.040: Just presentations and stuff?
00:03.040: And so when you zoom in on the Apple menu, you're not zooming in on a movie of it.
00:03.040: So, but then what I'll do is I'll open up that project or compound clip.
00:03.040: That's a good one.
00:03.040: Are you salaried?
00:03.040: It's an interesting way of looking at it.
00:03.120: Best move of your career.
00:03.120: Command D, Command D, Command D.
00:03.120: You drop your hard drive on there, it goes through every file on that hard drive and keeps track of them.
00:03.120: And I don't need the preview 'cause I know what it means and I know what it's named.
00:03.120: I started it back in 6.
00:03.120: You're okay.
00:03.200: And I think and I don't know you every once in a while you talk to people that said, Oh, yeah, no, I used Final Cut 1, but
00:03.200: The seven manual was 2,200 pages.
00:03.200: So let's I want to talk more about what was your thought process as you decided to
00:03.200: I mean, I I don't care what it is.
00:03.200: Why don't we have guidelines?
00:03.200: I think Adam i in my book, Adam gets the credit.
00:03.280: He's an instructor, he's a teacher, he's an Apple Certified Trainer.
00:03.280: Sometimes they come from different backgrounds and and I have to dispel a lot of
00:03.280: Is paste overwrite kind of like paste attributes of content?
00:03.280: That's not for five years, ten years.
00:03.280: And he goes, Well, I haven't scanned everything.
00:03.280: I will say that I have always had trouble.
00:03.360: I don't know what that means.
00:03.360: Anyway, I love getting the comments.
00:03.360: And ever since then, I've been recertifying.
00:03.360: And I have media all over them.
00:03.360: And maybe it's the multiple libraries referencing it, Fear.
00:03.360: And I'm using it I'm using this giant Mac Pro doing an edit through LogMe In on a computer that's on the other side of the bay.
00:03.360: Yeah, I end up getting a 2013 iMac, and I figured I'll get the next version, the next Mac Pro when it comes out.
00:03.440: Number 24 on the 24th.
00:03.440: I mean, deck-to-deck editing.
00:03.440: So so what this is mid-90s, you say?
00:03.440: Yeah, I say that to people all the time.
00:03.440: Scott Simmons is one of them, who's very adept at moving from software to software.
00:03.440: So in Final Cut, it's the blade.
00:03.440: We are editors and we talk about everything.
00:03.440: I know for myself, there's certain things, like some of the stuff I showed last night at SF Cutters, it wasn't so much about Final Cut, but because it actually was quite interesting as I was doing After Effects
00:03.440: Right.
00:03.440: Right.
00:03.440: And apparently, there wasn't much.
00:03.440: Yes, absolutely.
00:03.440: I'm glad you're doing it, then I don't have to.
00:03.520: Seven had all these years, ten years, whatever years to develop.
00:03.520: Right.
00:03.520: And uh and I don't I don't get it, I don't care.
00:03.520: Yeah, so the shift F is you're basically match framing back into the bin.
00:03.520: So hating the canon naming the nomenclature that comes out of the camera, I actually take those cards through a renamer utility.
00:03.520: So, who do we have to thank for the invention of the podcast?
00:03.600: He says, y'all, you don't want to get a Mac?
00:03.600: I'm not defending, you know, none of these analyses are perfect.
00:03.600: Exactly.
00:03.600: If I'm doing something more complex or I want to make like a safety copy, I'll put it into a project timeline.
00:03.600: Much like everybody really wanted a multicam editor in Funnelhead 10.
00:03.600: That's from Logic Pro.
00:03.600: Eight hours per episode.
00:03.600: We appreciate it.
00:03.680: And I think and also, that was a very h tough time to be a Mac user because that was the famous we're ninety days from closing the doors.
00:03.680: So but I still I mean, JK and L is fine, but Final Cut didn't have that originally, right?
00:03.680: I'm going to go work on that.
00:03.680: And it's a simple matter of laying out a bunch of them and command select all, Command T and put a bunch of dissolves between them.
00:03.680: If you change the name of that piece of media, it would break its link to the other library.
00:03.680: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:03.680: They had just bought it and I used it for about a year.
00:03.760: Kitten Caboodle says I only shoot as a hobbyist, but still find FCPX to be a good platform.
00:03.760: Wow.
00:03.760: I guess copy and paste attributes.
00:03.760: Right.
00:03.760: So shift F match frames back into the bin.
00:03.840: So we really appreciate that.
00:03.840: And I got the top of the line too, right-hand column kind of guy.
00:03.840: Well, I, yeah, I agree.
00:03.840: Right.
00:03.840: Recall the window layouts.
00:03.840: I think we use option C to turn on and off the colorboard.
00:03.840: Thunderbolt two.
00:03.840: So that was Richard.
00:03.920: Absolutely.
00:03.920: And I gotta say that your I you your site is so
00:03.920: As a matter of fact, sometimes I actually bring the media in Final Cut, close Final Cut down, go to the media files and rename them and then make a new library, new event with the renamed files.
00:03.920: You don't need to get off the cliff.
00:03.920: I wish I could keep it down to one a week.
00:04.000: I could see where it was headed, and I liked the direction.
00:04.000: So I'll take everything from card A7 and put it in a reel, and I'll call it A7, and then I might put a notation.
00:04.000: If there's somebody in the Bay Area that wants to buy a very well loved R6, I'm going to replace it for one of the R2 or the Thunder Pegasus II R6s.
00:04.000: Tell them to log in and subscribe.
00:04.080: What is your history?
00:04.080: I go, Well, I'll tell you that one thing I'm really excited about is I can strip away the audio from a multicam clip now.
00:04.080: Philip Hodgetts, we are asking you, please.
00:04.080: Understood.
00:04.080: I can't imagine.
00:04.080: I learn stuff every conversation that I have, and I am enlightened just as much as any of the listeners are.
00:04.160: Uh Need Apple says uh uh when I was particularly shout
00:04.160: I just noticed six and six point five because that's when Adobe dropped the Mac support.
00:04.160: Well, it may not been in version 1.
00:04.160: And I've adopted this set of shortcuts that work across all of them.
00:04.160: I love the fact when you're moving icons around, it'll show you all of a sudden, oh, you're 62
00:04.160: They're about a thousand bucks, I think, also Thunderbolt.
00:04.240: Oh, is that right?
00:04.240: Between uh final cut, ten.
00:04.240: I mean, now you take something like you know, like I got to say, one of my favorite features of the Creative Cloud is to be able to
00:04.240: But with Final Cut, the problem with renaming the Final Cut is it doesn't rename it in the Finder.
00:04.240: Your name.
00:04.240: You used to have to be able to arrow over and then get at
00:04.240: Oh, absolutely.
00:04.240: That was a good trick, essentially what he was saying is you can't copy and paste overwrite, but what you can do
00:04.320: And luckily, like some of the editors that I work with, we all kind of have the same sort of
00:04.320: But I remember getting like really obsessed with it.
00:04.320: So for example, I have a shot of a guy stepping out of a car into the gravel.
00:04.320: I know myself, I used to skip versions.
00:04.320: You can add a compound clip timeline to a project timeline.
00:04.320: I know I actually know people that after showing them Screenflow, they started doing all their editing and screen flow.
00:04.400: This is the thing I don't like about the things.
00:04.400: Yeah, exactly.
00:04.400: Got it from Pro-Max in California, as a matter of fact.
00:04.400: Boston University in Georgetown, outside of Washington.
00:04.400: Well, I'm yeah, you know, can't see that I'm six foot three.
00:04.400: I'm not going to do it.
00:04.400: It depends on whether you're in the clubhouse or you're on the outside looking in.
00:04.400: Then I had the one folder system.
00:04.400: I constantly make new versions.
00:04.400: Right.
00:04.400: It'll tell me which hard drive I have to put in, and it'll also tell me if it's in an event or it's just in a more random folder.
00:04.400: And it scans it wicked fast.
00:04.400: You rename a project, it changes in the finder, but it doesn't rename if
00:04.400: But it gives you the ability to log in even through firewalls and it works much easier than Back to My Mac used to work.
00:04.480: I moved to Premiere years ago in 2011.
00:04.480: It's got to be too much.
00:04.480: Okay.
00:04.480: It is.
00:04.480: I know that I was talking with Alex Gullner last week.
00:04.480: I'm the post-production supervisor, so I get to choose what we have and what we get.
00:04.480: But um I really I I've kind of coined the term timeline kung
00:04.560: Yeah, no, it do not like uh Apple Plus and Apple Minus though for zooming, so I made that a one key
00:04.560: Right.
00:04.560: Yeah, and and the for some reason, I don't know what it is, but their algorithms for zooming are spectacular.
00:04.560: Right, right.
00:04.560: I think I do 256 or something.
00:04.640: But then I'd have to pay a dough monthly ransom for that software.
00:04.640: Yeah.
00:04.640: Those are mine.
00:04.640: I mean, the example I use: if I want to find a clip of Aunt Matilda two years from now.
00:04.640: So I said, you know what?
00:04.640: Gotcha.
00:04.640: But there's actually a keyboard shortcut that you can assign to toggle color correction on and off.
00:04.640: So we we bought one of the new ones and then we'll wait for the next generation, then we'll start staggering them, you know.
00:04.720: Especially go to the tips section.
00:04.720: And then I um I don't know, I wanted to do I I liked video, mostly have to do with um music videos and stuff.
00:04.720: Right, right.
00:04.720: But the idea that you have to that if you stop here's what it is: if you stop paying, the software stops working.
00:04.720: That's interesting.
00:04.720: Understood.
00:04.720: I I get I get compensated for my time.
00:04.800: Do you teach Adobe?
00:04.800: You know, it wasn't where everything was, it wasn't traditional.
00:04.800: And I've, you know, well, the software is, you know, Adobe software is fine.
00:04.800: And at that point, I just bring stuff in to the keyword collections and make a keyword collection for each camera.
00:04.800: And you can put them down really small once you're not using.
00:04.800: And I think you're well known because you've been riding this horse for a long time.
00:04.800: I did have one drive mysteriously unmount once on one of the RAID fives, but it's a raid five, so it's all safe.
00:04.800: And we will see you next time on the Final Cut Grill.
00:04.880: Not that I use them, but I think just um
00:04.880: 0 era.
00:04.880: But again, we're now into Final Cut 10.
00:04.880: So I can just look at it and go, oh, yeah, boy, I must have spaced out or fell.
00:04.880: I wish they called it a timeline or a sequence.
00:04.880: Agreed, agreed, agreed.
00:04.880: It's really good.
00:04.880: I wonder what the cause of that is.
00:04.880: I think it's I want to say it's like option V or maybe it's control V.
00:04.880: I saw that.
00:04.880: And it's not you don't have to use it.
00:04.880: It just it's always out there and it knows where your machines are.
00:04.880: That looks amazing.
00:04.960: And, you know, premier Abbott final cut
00:04.960: You just take off the modifier?
00:04.960: And let's face it, it is a problem in our society that we don't have good grammar.
00:04.960: And so the first time somebody like Apple stumbles and falters a little, everybody jumps him and wants to kick the man when he's down.
00:04.960: And I don't it's just all those project files are, you know, separate.
00:04.960: Yeah.
00:04.960: That's crazy talk.
00:05.040: Right.
00:05.040: I've had version four as an end user.
00:05.040: Oh, absolutely.
00:05.040: Select the clip, Apple C to copy.
00:05.040: That's how exactly.
00:05.040: No, no, I don't think it affects performance.
00:05.040: And then it would also tell me, by the way, you had that stored on Drive 39.
00:05.040: Yeah, we do a lot of bare hard drives.
00:05.040: It takes about I do three hours of podcasts a week and it takes me about ten hours to do all that.
00:05.120: It's my pleasure.
00:05.120: Computers and software, they do not become obsolete.
00:05.120: I mean, just you know, shortcuts and stuff
00:05.120: I know.
00:05.120: Or are you really just like, here's the user interface, let's learn what it does?
00:05.120: Is there a solution to that that we used to have in 7?
00:05.120: Right.
00:05.120: Screenflow saves immediately.
00:05.120: I want to go check the A camera for something similar or another angle of the same event.
00:05.120: Get rid of the old one.
00:05.120: Really?
00:05.120: I agree.
00:05.200: Because I read too much about video editing at the time.
00:05.200: Yeah, 'cause I had in the early part in like January 98, I had bought a Media One Hundred.
00:05.200: Which one do you modify less keyboard shortcuts?
00:05.200: Maybe I've letterboxed it and it's all filmic or whatever.
00:05.200: That's a really good, really good point.
00:05.200: Well, the other thing that's that's nice, and I don't know that everybody knows this about ScreenFlow, it um you know, most screen capture utilities record a movie of your desktop.
00:05.200: I want my own name so I can remember, so I can find this clip in the future.
00:05.200: So I did one for 6 and I did one for 7.
00:05.280: He goes, get a PC.
00:05.280: And you can get so wrapped up in it.
00:05.280: Now once again, version 10.
00:05.280: Those QuickTime movies, for whatever reason, are very cumbersome.
00:05.280: It doesn't make thumbnails, it doesn't do any previews or anything like that.
00:05.280: I find it odd that when I
00:05.280: com.
00:05.360: How did you get to where we are today?
00:05.360: 5 Okay, yeah, it seemed to me there was a there was a
00:05.360: Which discussion?
00:05.360: Yeah, I you know what?
00:05.360: And then I can sk skimmer and I'm using event with a lowercase e, not event like a final cut event.
00:05.360: You know, you're bringing up an idea.
00:05.360: How about it's single adjusted lanes?
00:05.360: You know, it's funny, you know, when you get in, it's an odd.
00:05.440: Thank you so much.
00:05.440: No.
00:05.440: And I never even said Final Cut Pro or Final Cut 10 or FCPX.
00:05.440: Then you have to I guess it's another workaround.
00:05.440: Ah, yeah.
00:05.440: But when it comes to just sifting through B-roll, I like to make a string-out reel.
00:05.440: You know, I mean, obviously Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro team, they don't talk that much.
00:05.440: The rest of them are all very small.
00:05.440: Well, you're gonna you're gonna be able to imagine this one.
00:05.440: Yeah, very good.
00:05.520: In the 80s and 90s I uh ran a recording studio.
00:05.520: Gotcha.
00:05.520: Well, I'm interested in why Adobe lets you do that.
00:05.520: Yeah, i it I'd say it is a problem.
00:05.520: So I catalog each one with NeoFinder, which is a digital asset manager.
00:05.520: I knew how to use it, but it was difficult to explain the subtleties and the nuances to it because there's so much stuff you wanted to do.
00:05.520: Okay, well, now it's too late
00:05.520: So m I think maybe, possibly, ten point one point five or three or whatever, maybe we'll see a newly imagined
00:05.520: Right.
00:05.520: Yeah, that's an interesting little sideway to make things go down.
00:05.520: And if you hold down the shift key and you scroll, it moves your timeline left and right.
00:05.520: But yeah, same as me.
00:05.600: Okay, so let's go to the interview with Richard Taylor, the FCPX TV guru.
00:05.600: And I enable with the two key shorts because it's less.
00:05.600: Okay, so you're pasting it from the main storyline, but you want to
00:05.600: If you stop paying, the software stops working.
00:05.600: We're just doing a little bit of recent history.
00:05.600: Ah, okay.
00:05.600: I'll tell you what.
00:05.600: Okay.
00:05.600: Richard, the last thing I want to ask you, and I would be remiss if I didn't give you this platform.
00:05.600: I mean, I learned from students as well.
00:05.600: It does do that, but I got to say, I was talking with somebody just last night at this SF Cutters meeting.
00:05.680: And frankly, I love your top request section because it's it
00:05.680: Yeah, I've always found that because I move between so many machines in any sometimes even in a day
00:05.680: And maybe there are ten really bad clips.
00:05.680: Okay, this is a whole new show.
00:05.760: Today we have Richard Taylor.
00:05.760: And when I went to my college professor
00:05.760: Were you a certified trainer of uh six and seven, et cetera?
00:05.760: I I realize it, but we do it so little that it catches me off guard.
00:05.760: I think I have the utmost respect for Adobe in that regard because they're doing the right thing.
00:05.760: So instead, you go to the first timeline, select your clip.
00:05.760: Oh, the um the event browser viewer.
00:05.760: And he talked me through the whole process.
00:05.840: Yes, number 24.
00:05.840: No.
00:05.840: 96.
00:05.840: Yeah, I call that the kick a man when he's down syndrome.
00:05.840: Okay, so how do I do it?
00:05.840: I talked to the guys the other day down at Mac Business Solutions in Caithersburg.
00:05.840: It's a little bit addictive, and my boss keeps rolling his eyes when I go, I got to go do an interview.
00:05.920: And then all of a sudden, the community college offered an NLE.
00:05.920: 5, but, you know.
00:05.920: As a matter of fact, just recertified for 10.
00:05.920: Yeah.
00:05.920: Okay, that actually makes a lot of sense.
00:05.920: Do you use that feature of it?
00:05.920: And it could it would probably be a standalone application.
00:05.920: But what about a round tripping with motion?
00:05.920: If you log me in is an amazing utility, logmein.
00:06.000: Yeah.
00:06.000: But if you're on the outside thinking of jumping in finally,
00:06.000: I stopped using them a year and a half ago.
00:06.000: Screen flow, uh if people don't know, is a
00:06.000: Once you stopped recording, when you hit this is an older piece of software history here.
00:06.000: Good grief.
00:06.000: I judge the difficulty of a piece of software in how hard it is for me to train people how to use it.
00:06.000: So when are you going to get to use the Mac Pro?
00:06.080: It says they talk about what Final Cut Pro 10 is.
00:06.080: Oh, no.
00:06.080: Okay.
00:06.080: And at any rate, nobody asked me.
00:06.080: Who can we give the credit to the and again, this is a little bit of Final Cut 10.
00:06.080: Yes, that's peculiar, don't you think?
00:06.080: In the canvas?
00:06.080: And um I started it when podca before podcasting was on iTunes.
00:06.160: And Adobe has opened the doors for this user group, and they let anybody talk about anything.
00:06.160: So if you have 10 or 20
00:06.160: I don't edit in Screenflow.
00:06.160: I'm just going to scan your drives in my database then.
00:06.160: Much like we wanted what are some other things that we didn't have and then we got and when we finally got it, it was
00:06.240: Yeah.
00:06.240: I challenged him on a few things.
00:06.240: Oh, I will too.
00:06.240: I'm with you 100%.
00:06.240: Ah.
00:06.240: Actually, can I say, I j we just got took delivery of our new Mac Pro.
00:06.320: Uh-huh.
00:06.320: So they're not stored locally?
00:06.320: Like what are some things like if you've been afraid to open After Effects, what are the things you would need to know?
00:06.320: And it's so funny because you if I look at
00:06.320: That's how you do that.
00:06.320: He said one line of XML or something.
00:06.320: And it shows you all those representations.
00:06.320: Absolutely.
00:06.400: And then, and then the issue of, you know, am I really going to remember this?
00:06.400: And I was actually at Adobe last night and
00:06.400: Absolutely.
00:06.400: There you go.
00:06.400: You know, how there's a whole is about a top ten to I love, I love your floating timecode window.
00:06.400: And then I got a G5 up there with Final Code Pro 7.
00:06.400: Audio or video?
00:06.480: Not in television and film production.
00:06.480: Right.
00:06.480: Oh, absolutely.
00:06.480: So, let's learn a little here.
00:06.480: I would imagine that
00:06.560: Oh, it's not professional, you know, blah, blah, blah.
00:06.560: The discussion about Final Cut.
00:06.560: Then those cards full of data, and this is a bit controversial with some people.
00:06.560: So I hope you enjoyed this edition of Final Cut Grill.
00:06.640: You just get into such a habit.
00:06.640: That's a disappointment.
00:06.640: Yeah, that's that was a surprise.
00:06.640: I mean, oh yeah, it's really fast.
00:06.640: I thought we were talking about Final Cut Pro.
00:06.720: They set it up for me originally with Premiere.
00:06.720: No, I I put it right beside JK and L.
00:06.720: No, actually, just last night, this is what day is today?
00:06.720: Yeah, I think that's a discussion I had just last night with somebody, and they were saying
00:06.720: Okay.
00:06.720: No, I understand that.
00:06.720: The thing that's nice about it is I can keep it running in the background.
00:06.720: I've actually been using projects, but I'm rethinking that given your message there.
00:06.800: So I don't want to remember a different set of shortcuts for every piece of software that I use.
00:06.800: That's the reason.
00:06.800: Or slice or cut or not cut, but basically you're cutting a.
00:06.800: Exactly.
00:06.800: And it's a conversation I've had with people that
00:06.800: Or just the fact that you can batch rename clips in Final Cut Pro, that's fantastic.
00:06.880: That too is a big problem.
00:06.880: And they do come and participate in the user group.
00:06.880: But if you look at it from outside
00:06.880: But you're bringing up a really good point, and I'm going to throw this out to the Final Cut 10 community.
00:06.880: Oh, as you're bringing it in.
00:06.880: So that, but that's not, you know, that's like some
00:06.960: Right.
00:06.960: I love your little tips section on your website.
00:06.960: It's you know, it's $299, obviously.
00:06.960: Absolutely.
00:06.960: Get rid of the one that has the import window.
00:06.960: So if there was an issue where, oh, crap, a drive is keeping us from working, if I needed to.
00:06.960: Same with me.
00:07.040: And
00:07.040: I tell you, I love your website.
00:07.040: Okay.
00:07.040: So, you know, it's no it wasn't anywhere near as deep as seven, but
00:07.040: So I kid you not, sometimes it takes me till about 10 o'clock in the morning before I realize, ah, I got to change that thing.
00:07.040: Like, oh no, I'm going to do this.
00:07.040: Yeah.
00:07.040: It records the data that the Mac uses to draw the screen.
00:07.040: That piece of media
00:07.040: It's an option.
00:07.040: What what are you running those as?
00:07.120: And there's nothing, I mean, there's
00:07.120: Those are mine, and you're not going to see those.
00:07.120: And then I just
00:07.120: That's what I'm talking about.
00:07.120: Dual monitors, why can't we have one with an effect on, one with an effect off?
00:07.120: So even though you're in the color board.
00:07.120: What's the other guy's name, Dave?
00:07.200: It's exciting to it you know, you think about it, if you sit here in this dark room in front of this microphone and you talk and you talk to the people,
00:07.200: Yeah.
00:07.200: Do you know how to do a paste?
00:07.200: Gotcha.
00:07.200: Yes, there you go.
00:07.200: I'm notorious for making you know, like if a producer behind me asks me to do something that I am
00:07.200: I have three batch renamers, you know, and I use
00:07.200: So, Neo Finder.
00:07.200: Well, then do something like if this is a single library, let us do it.
00:07.280: No, I didn't resist at all.
00:07.280: That's a problem, people.
00:07.280: Well, that's a good deal for the Adobe stockholders.
00:07.280: And it makes it very simple to go out
00:07.280: That's a good one.
00:07.360: Yeah.
00:07.360: Not that many, but
00:07.360: Yeah.
00:07.360: I would have I just assumed this was a bunch of photoshopping.
00:07.360: I mean, I have complete faith that Apple is going to do that.
00:07.360: So I treat data cards as tapes.
00:07.360: And that's why I do renamer.
00:07.360: There is a keyboard shortcut that you have to
00:07.360: And the scrolling timeline was always a
00:07.440: Yeah, that would be like premiere
00:07.440: And so, um
00:07.440: I want to just spend it on one, which is Final Cut.
00:07.440: If you copy it, however, wouldn't you get all of the effects in any uh fil filtration you've put on it?
00:07.440: And the other thing is that Screenflow doesn't record a movie of your screen.
00:07.440: I named the clip Matilda.
00:07.440: I want something like
00:07.440: He's working on some stuff.
00:07.440: And you know what?
00:07.440: Later, later.
00:07.520: There's a bunch of tips and
00:07.520: But the thing is
00:07.520: 0
00:07.520: Yep.
00:07.520: It actually turns out to be a little bit less expensive.
00:07.520: It's just that, you know, when you when you I still use the compound clip timeline a lot.
00:07.520: Yes, yes, yes, you have an ally in that for sure.
00:07.600: Boy, that sounds weird to say years ago.
00:07.600: There's a paste insert and there's a paste connect.
00:07.600: Actually, if you command-c copy.
00:07.600: I just bring everything back into Final Cut.
00:07.600: I love keywords and I realize that I can do range-based keywords, and I have done that
00:07.600: Nice.
00:07.600: Let's come
00:07.600: So we're I'm anyway, we're getting a new Mac Pro.
00:07.600: 'Cause I that's I was listening to the first podcast I listened to was Don and Drew.
00:07.600: Well, Richard, thanks for your time.
00:07.680: And then finally, I just gave up.
00:07.680: When you sit down, if you log in as your user account
00:07.680: I mean
00:07.680: No, no, I'm sorry.
00:07.680: Very yeah.
00:07.680: No, it's audio, but it's it's music.
00:07.760: I wonder if there's any fail safe
00:07.840: Well, yeah, everywhere.
00:07.840: I saved you from yourself.
00:07.920: I don't know if it's relevant to say what day of the week it is, but this is for Monday.
00:07.920: I I would have
00:07.920: 1.
00:07.920: Logic has a
00:07.920: And so um we keep mir we mirror projects off of the
00:07.920: So, how many hours a week do you work?
00:08.000: Yeah.
00:08.000: So I need to know the software, you know, pretty much immediately.
00:08.000: That one certainly wasn't.
00:08.000: Yes.
00:08.000: History.
00:08.000: So I use something sim I use a
00:08.000: Fun is good at all.
00:08.000: The end result, however, because it did kill a day of work for me.
00:08.000: And I will say about ten hours of that now.
00:08.000: They might have something that I never saw.
00:08.080: At any rate, we will go to that.
00:08.080: So anyway, thanks for the comments.
00:08.080: But in that case, that wasn't the case with me.
00:08.080: You have to do the same thing.
00:08.080: No, the version that you have stops working.
00:08.080: But for the most part
00:08.080: It is because you can scrub a compound clip timeline.
00:08.080: Oh, that's very powerful.
00:08.080: I like that.
00:08.160: 1 coming up.
00:08.160: Absolutely.
00:08.160: So the more I use a a keyboard shortcut, the more I'll put it towards the one key.
00:08.160: Well, I think they are stored locally, but they come off the cloud also.
00:08.160: Go to the second time line, place your playhead, Apple V to paste.
00:08.160: Are you using projects now?
00:08.160: Well, remember I said my background is
00:08.160: Worse than that, it was Abbott on a PC.
00:08.160: If they turn their back on their computer, just subscribe for them.
00:08.240: I want to read a couple of them.
00:08.240: No, it's not.
00:08.240: Yeah, we as video people have been trying to get audio people to march behind us all all along for decades.
00:08.240: You could gather up all of your stuff.
00:08.240: Do you know?
00:08.240: We have been all over the map here.
00:08.240: Now, I don't understand.
00:08.240: I think I'm going to use it this weekend.
00:08.320: And then I'd.
00:08.320: And then the producer comes back and he goes, Oh, yeah, I want him to step onto the asphalt.
00:08.320: You're zooming in on the data that the Mac used to draw that Apple menu.
00:08.400: It was just it's kind of interesting.
00:08.480: What is that?
00:08.480: They're separate.
00:08.560: And Richard Taylor runs a website called FCPX.
00:08.560: I mean, remember, I'm a trainer.
00:08.560: I didn't bother
00:08.560: And then I have to press another button to see the opacity keyframes.
00:08.640: If if you wanted to copy a clip from uh the example I use, if you I have two time lines
00:08.640: I copy a clip from one timeline and I want to paste it into another timeline.
00:08.640: So you are not a user of the Creative Cloud at all?
00:08.640: Nor did Mavericks.
00:08.640: And I just had this issue with a client the other day who uses NeoFinder.
00:08.720: Ah, there we go.
00:08.720: People don't, you know, don't realize that when you
00:08.720: 0.
00:08.800: So instead, what I typically will do is kick out a series of stills.
00:08.800: You rename a file
00:08.800: So
00:08.800: We have one of our edit systems, which is
00:08.800: And when I log on, it shows me a list of all of my machines, regardless of where they are in the world.
00:08.880: So I just plugged my ears and went, nope, nope, nope, not listening to you, not listening.
00:08.880: And I just I kind of feel like what you say, I'd rather concentrate and become really good
00:08.880: Again, very upstanding, you know.
00:08.880: Yes, I use it for my presentations.
00:08.880: And then the other thing is, if you don't have full motion video running in it
00:08.880: RAID five or rate zeros or RAID five, which is what
00:08.960: That's coming up now.
00:08.960: Your expectations of what you expect them to do change.
00:08.960: For example, I use JKNL in Logic Pro.
00:08.960: You know, I mean.
00:08.960: No, that's very true.
00:08.960: I know what you mean.
00:08.960: And people
00:08.960: That is a problem.
00:08.960: One of my fun
00:09.040: I found that Premiere wasn't really tuned to use its power, but F C P X was.
00:09.040: Right.
00:09.040: I use the uh semicolon and the uh apostrophe.
00:09.040: That's very clever.
00:09.040: Paste the attributes back.
00:09.040: I can't thank you enough.
00:09.120: And then and you know, you make them the same size as your canvas, 19, 20, 10, 80.
00:09.120: All it does is it strips away the
00:09.120: Right.
00:09.200: So I've been doing
00:09.200: Got to run.
00:09.280: I think if you you know, the the math of it is such that if you
00:09.280: What is that sketch?
00:09.280: So
00:09.360: I think I change about maybe.
00:09.360: Editing.
00:09.360: But if you look
00:09.360: Like let's say that event file for version five got corrupted.
00:09.360: You're kind of known for it.
00:09.360: You should always you know, I don't I don't trust uh those RAIDs for single source.
00:09.440: So do a bunch of us.
00:09.440: I never uttered those words.
00:09.520: Right.
00:09.520: Please make that utility, and could you somehow name it Fenwick?
00:09.520: I think I'm going to put it into commission.
00:09.600: You can go to iTunes and you you'd search for the show and then
00:09.600: I mean, Photoshop is ubiquitous.
00:09.680: When you say edit, what specifically are you?
00:09.680: I mean, I literally have
00:09.760: You know, keyboard shortcuts are are are a real science.
00:09.760: I mean, but it is somewhat numb
00:09.760: Somebody, I guess, knows a reason.
00:09.760: Absolutely.
00:09.840: So, you know, a task game twenty-four track reel to reel.
00:09.840: Five.
00:09.840: So I know that some there's things that I get excited about sharing, and I'm assuming
00:09.840: It isn't like you can freeze
00:09.840: I'm going to search for Matilda in the finder.
00:09.840: I'm familiar with NeoFinder.
00:09.840: That's one of the things and that new promise
00:09.920: Right.
00:09.920: But I still liked it right from the beginning.
00:09.920: But it's not an Adobe user group.
00:09.920: And he goes
00:10.000: Everybody was saying Macintosh, Macintosh.
00:10.000: And
00:10.000: More.
00:10.000: I've seen that as well.
00:10.080: And right after that, final cut came out.
00:10.080: It's February 21st.
00:10.240: But if you were standing next to me, you could see that.
00:10.240: Because I think there's one thing in common that they have, and that's one of the little icons.
00:10.240: So while I'm watching something back, I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.
00:10.240: Very cool.
00:10.320: Are there some that you would like to
00:10.320: But I don't want
00:10.320: And I see it
00:10.320: And I said
00:10.320: com.
00:10.320: Bless you.
00:10.400: Cool.
00:10.400: Just keep improving it and keep improving it.
00:10.480: So you started at five?
00:10.480: So I need to know the software.
00:10.480: But part of being a professional is being courteous.
00:10.480: When you hit save, it would go, oh, you know, it would take you
00:10.480: I appreciate everything.
00:10.560: And then when Final Cut came out, I got Final Cut.
00:10.560: I've been really, really busy on something else.
00:10.640: Right.
00:10.720: And he's like, Ugh, I'm going to send you to Podcasters Anonymous.
00:10.800: Those are three things why I still use compound clip timelines.
00:10.800: Yeah.
00:10.880: No, I'm not a Photoshop person.
00:10.880: Well, you know, I started the
00:10.960: The FCP UN Falfst for some odd reason
00:10.960: I'm working on a piece this weekend.
00:10.960: You're the way I was when I first started.
00:11.040: Is that what that is?
00:11.120: So February 20th, I actually
00:11.120: No, it's absolutely the the anonymity of the Internet, absolutely.
00:11.200: I'll change, I'll make one
00:11.200: Yeah.
00:11.280: So when
00:11.280: And this might be something that somebody like Philip Hodgetts would jump on.
00:11.280: Ah, okay.
00:11.360: Yeah, and that makes sense.
00:11.440: Yeah, that's what I mean.
00:11.440: So each card comes in and gets
00:11.440: So it's been.
00:11.520: Yeah, I miss I gotta say, I really miss
00:11.600: We had Abbott originally.
00:11.680: Uh-huh.
00:11.760: This was from the dinner event.
00:11.840: Is that how you do that?
00:11.840: Explain a little bit about how that works.
00:11.920: Five.
00:11.920: It is a
00:11.920: Right.
00:12.000: I mean,
00:12.080: Yeah, I didn't even have a computer then.
00:12.080: I have another shot I just shot yesterday.
00:12.080: But I'm using Final Cut Pro to import the media.
00:12.160: I actually read and again
00:12.240: It's also a good visual metaphor.
00:12.240: Wow.
00:12.320: I was at uh Apple headquarters in New York.
00:12.320: Okay.
00:12.320: But I really liked it.
00:12.400: I mean, I'd I'd much prefer zooming in
00:12.480: Paste overwrite it.
00:12.480: The other issue is
00:12.560: So you might say something different.
00:12.640: I used to do one a week, and it was always
00:12.800: I wasn't able to
00:12.800: I didn't know you can even do that.
00:12.880: And six months later I started my own.
00:13.200: I mean, I remember
00:13.840: I mean,
00:13.840: Yeah.
00:14.000: Okay.