Episode 116
FCG116 - The Cisco Kid? (feat. Ray Brown)
Working solo or in a workgroup, it doesn’t matter but Ray Brown still has found FCPX to be an amazing asset in his career. Whether he is creating reality TV or commercials or person projects in Budapest Hungary Ray was able to transition from Final Cut Classic to Final Cut Pro X seamlessly. Ray also has long time exposure to the music industry growing up with his dad as founder of War, the very popular 70’s era funk band.
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Featuring
- Chris Fenwick
- Ray Brown - @raybrown_me
- Sam Brown - @raybrown_me
Transcription
00:00.001: I don't understand.
00:00.001: You came back to the States, you did some final cut teaching.
00:00.001: I'm going to show my audience here, and this makes for really horrible radio.
00:00.001: and you can begin the process of reporting news or reporting information on the fly immediately, live, no cuts, no edits, truth be told.
00:00.001: I'm looking forward to seeing some of you face to face at NAB next week.
00:00.080: Streamer, I'm like, so what's your edit platform of choice?
00:00.080: You know, from the US or Los Angeles for that matter, um, that I just decided I wanted to visually capture it.
00:00.080: With regards to saying, oh man, I, you know, we can't, you know, they just ruined it.
00:00.080: Final cut eight or ten or whatever you want to call it.
00:00.080: Company credits.
00:00.080: And they interview them for a little time, asking for their product and services, and it's live and it's immediately.
00:00.080: Meerkat needs to do something for us Android users.
00:00.160: So please go check out PremiumBeat.
00:00.160: you know, living in Europe and music and and all that.
00:00.160: And music just brings it all together, really.
00:00.160: Corporate videos, I did a couple of them back in the day using Final Cut.
00:00.160: It looks like you can shoot uh make commercials very well.
00:00.160: especially if you're just a single individual trying to make product.
00:00.160: where you can share responsibilities and assets and stuff in a workgroup environment.
00:00.160: But I just want to make sure that everybody understands.
00:00.160: So I just put an ad in and just started kind of teaching Final Cut.
00:00.160: Take on the hat of longer being more than an editor.
00:00.160: T V show.
00:00.160: convince people that I have the skill set to really pull things off.
00:00.160: deal where somebody wanted to uh have us perform at their location up in uh Haley, Idaho.
00:00.160: Gypsy man, and I've always wanted to play that on stage with you.
00:00.160: Example.
00:00.160: from Ripple Training.
00:00.160: How cool to be able to get a whole series like that?
00:00.160: It's great to be able to share it, but it's all I mean, to be honest, Ray, I learned stuff on every single episode of doing this.
00:00.160: I don't need anyone anymore.
00:00.160: I wish I'd been on set.
00:00.160: backing things up.
00:00.160: Hmm.
00:00.160: So let's say if all you care about is Final Cut Pro, this show might be over.
00:00.160: One day, someone walks into a coffee shop and interviews them for an hour.
00:00.160: I've watched her.
00:00.160: You know, getting into broadcasting a little bit, although not post-production, because everything you do on Meerkat is live.
00:00.160: Now, I don't know if you've come across them or not.
00:00.160: And you go, oh, let's see that girl from Arsenic, and you click it, and it's a new face, and it's a new person.
00:00.160: Right.
00:00.160: Thank you very much.
00:00.160: But it accidentally sent after I have a PO.
00:00.160: Gotcha.
00:00.160: And I think that everything is kind of moving in that direction where, you know, you know, to to to give more of
00:00.160: is a company that I really thought was going to kind of go that direction with it, and I think they tried on many occasions.
00:00.160: the way I use it, getting information immediately.
00:00.160: eight p.
00:00.160: Take care.
00:00.240: Final Cut Pro, and I'm assuming he's going to say, you know, the old Final Cut Pro, but he says, yeah, and I really like the new Final Cut Pro.
00:00.240: And somebody will make a lot of money.
00:00.240: Those are not premium beat teases.
00:00.240: Fellows, my pleasure.
00:00.240: Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
00:00.240: Music swap out tricks that I do all the time.
00:00.240: page, fcpworks.
00:00.240: Is he there?
00:00.240: But when they screwed it up, I went to premiere, and then you go, But I really like Ten.
00:00.240: Well, I surprise myself each time I get in front of a piano and start touching it and actually start playing, I say, oh, wow, this is still part of me.
00:00.240: music at a very young age when I was a kid.
00:00.240: RB and funk music.
00:00.240: Mimic, really.
00:00.240: Absolutely, no question about it.
00:00.240: Across the board.
00:00.240: You know, I tell you an interesting little side story.
00:00.240: For somebody, I can't remember who it was, and I do a lot of you know really boring corporate stuff that nobody wants to see or talk about, but we were doing something, and the producer, who is a drummer, by the way.
00:00.240: And as it turned out, after spending two days cutting this thing, we loved it with just the repetitive little loop out of GarageBand.
00:00.240: the music because they have a corporate messaging agenda.
00:00.240: Yeah, you know, definitely iMovie is a gateway drug to the rest of the the tool set for sure.
00:00.240: And I realized, oh my goodness, I cannot do this with iMovie.
00:00.240: I guess they've progressed to make it more and more like Final Cut Pro X now, it seems to me.
00:00.240: and at least hang out with me for a bit.
00:00.240: Weeks generally, you know, the first time around, ended up staying three months.
00:00.240: And that kind of led into me kind of I didn't start in Budapest, I was actually 200 kilometers outside of Budapest, a little small town called Kampeshvar.
00:00.240: Budapest or Hungary, I thought I'd never been there before.
00:00.240: I was messing that name up back then as well.
00:00.240: I decided to put a Craigslist ad.
00:00.240: That was, oh man, you know, this ear is kind of running together with me, but I've I'm thinking it was like 2000, maybe 2000
00:00.240: 5 2006 something like that.
00:00.240: Okay, so so you're saying in two thousand and one, you picked up iMovie and started screwing around with it, and five years later you're making a reality
00:00.240: Very sits.
00:00.240: There.
00:00.240: completely out of place because it's like a it was a you know, at least at the time I was there, it was like almost like a a very small ghostly type of town.
00:00.240: He said it was a shoot-em-up town and he fell in love with it.
00:00.240: Fake it, fake it, fake it.
00:00.240: anybody who's trying to avoid paying taxes at all.
00:00.240: Great.
00:00.240: Read it.
00:00.240: Goodness, golden nuggets.
00:00.240: If you watch that video, I'm actually in it as a kid.
00:00.240: Yeah, it's interesting that you call it the first version of it, because that was one of that was people's biggest complaints in the beginning, that it technically it was not supposed to be the first version of something.
00:00.240: I already enjoyed the efforts of what Final Cut was able to do, and I knew that they would not completely destroy that.
00:00.240: And then you take things like take companies like FX Factory who have this I mean, and I will say
00:00.240: I am a huge fan of FX Factory, and so I mention them a lot.
00:00.240: Okay?
00:00.240: You know, just l like a simplified version of a Ken Burns effect, but it's automatic.
00:00.240: If nothing else, go back and listen to the episodes he's been on.
00:00.240: multitasking and the things that they do in life and still are able to look good and feel good.
00:00.240: I don't see I don't see oh, full cast.
00:00.240: mentor in that process.
00:00.240: His name is dropping out of my mind right now.
00:00.240: director and producer.
00:00.240: The actual task at hand isn't the takeaway.
00:00.240: over the last year and a half, whatever, doing the show.
00:00.240: And that sort of thing using logic or some other softwares.
00:00.240: It actually precludes me from getting involved in a lot of directing.
00:00.240: When I realized that my Mac could do all these things with instruments around it and be able to record into my Mac.
00:00.240: I don't know.
00:00.240: you know, silly about it or not under have an understanding about it.
00:00.240: be I feel confident enough to know that I can get the shots that are necessary if they cannot.
00:00.240: encoding and getting things to whatever medium that it needs to be distributed at.
00:00.240: That's the finale, baby.
00:00.240: I was I was working once in Amsterdam and I was uh I was doing a convention there and um I was getting ready in the bathroom in the morning and the I'd left the T V on and I'd gotten out of the shower and all of a sudden I went
00:00.240: Television, it kind of caught me by surprise.
00:00.240: Do you um I'm assuming, because we all get free updates, that you're using the most recent version, ten point one point four, of the software as of uh april fourth, twenty fifteen, correct?
00:00.240: Threat, yes.
00:00.240: So and and what I'm alluding to here is the the age old topic, if you will, at least on this show, of whether or not you are importing your media into the library or you're opting to use the leave in place
00:00.240: migrate video and give it to somebody.
00:00.240: You know, he was asking me, why would you?
00:00.240: you know so it just I worked on a project before I left uh Budapest that was for uh Pernard Ricard um the uh
00:00.240: alcohol company that I guess they put out Picardy and a few other alcohols.
00:00.240: Important, and then I would be focused on having an internal version of it and also wanting to have some level of external version of it as well.
00:00.240: Thunderbolt through and have that.
00:00.240: Definitely.
00:00.240: In the nineties with thir nearly three hundred pounds of gear, I would put I musician stuff there.
00:00.240: opening up the package contents of various applications and sniffing around in the code behind it, and he finds elements and whatnot.
00:00.240: reading along in the Meerkat stream and people have been mentioning the MirPod, which is I think I don't think it's a real product yet.
00:00.240: How do you enjoy it?
00:00.240: And he said, you know, he asked the age-old question, well, what is it?
00:00.240: With an iPad over his shoulder saying, Ask me anything.
00:00.240: I just locked down the name.
00:00.240: Shut up.
00:00.240: Oh, yeah, that's correct.
00:00.240: And I was thinking, wow, maybe this might be another a whole nother podcast.
00:00.240: if people want to listen to podcasts or of that nature and want to subscribe to something and listen to it at their leisure, that's one side of it.
00:00.240: you can catch Ray Brown on Meercast on Meerkat rather at 8 p.
00:00.240: Absolutely, and I got the perfect title for it.
00:00.240: I don't always connect the faces and stuff.
00:00.240: Monday night I'm going to be at the post excuse me, Sunday night I'll be at the post chat meetup.
00:00.240: Episode of the Grill.
00:00.320: and he mentioned something about video and film production.
00:00.320: So I contacted Ray Brown, and I find out a whole bunch of extra stuff about his background and his family and his experiences in the music industry at some pretty high levels.
00:00.320: And I will warn you that I give away what I believe is a million dollar business plan at least
00:00.320: So that's Meerkat.
00:00.320: because next week, I can say that now, next week is NAB, and I will be at the FCP Works booth the whole week.
00:00.320: Yeah, man.
00:00.320: And he started me off as drums, and then I progressed from drums to various instruments growing up.
00:00.320: And I found out that I could actually make money with it, so I stuck with that.
00:00.320: Feel that my music, personally, my music background, and it's really just more of a passion
00:00.320: He did not have his music cut picked out, but he said, I'll tell you what, can you just and and we we were both sort of
00:00.320: Just kind of screwing around with like Garage Band or something.
00:00.320: As somebody and I'm assuming, you know, a lot of people that listen to this podcast are, you know, frankly, a lot of them are joining us on Meerkat right now, which I'm actually Meercasting on my end of it, which is something I've been doing for the last couple of weeks.
00:00.320: when you say, working on your own, that yes, that is the way you work, but as a show, we are not saying that this is
00:00.320: A tool for an individual.
00:00.320: You decided you moved to Europe.
00:00.320: And he was telling me about Hungry.
00:00.320: I got into Europe about two thousand one, like right after 9-11, and I thought I was going to stay there for like three or four
00:00.320: And with that, I was able to kind of work with the local networks within the area.
00:00.320: The commercial project, it was about a year after that.
00:00.320: In the business of producing documentaries, and he asked me to edit his documentary.
00:00.320: And I would like to have you come in and help be a producer and an editor on it.
00:00.320: You know, their name gets them in the door, but their skill is what gets them the second job, you know?
00:00.320: Having the name Willis may get you, and I'm not making any comments about rumor Willis or whatever his kids' names are.
00:00.320: But if you can't do it, you're not going to get the job.
00:00.320: They have a business in California.
00:00.320: They work in California most of the time, but recently they purchased a home in Washington State.
00:00.320: Washington state.
00:00.320: And apparently, all they have to do is live fifty one perc you know, stay there fifty one percent of the time, and they can call Washington State their primary residence, and there is no income tax.
00:00.320: But for me, I enjoyed it and I wanted to dive right in.
00:00.320: Well, it worked.
00:00.320: into it at a later time.
00:00.320: But as it's turned out, the plug-in community, I think, is way stronger for Final Cat 10.
00:00.320: So here's one I'm going to tell you about.
00:00.320: You know, it's amazing.
00:00.320: So many people have in this field.
00:00.320: Do you mind talking about the reality show that you did work on?
00:00.320: I know the first thing comes into mind is probably the term NOF.
00:00.320: Absolutely.
00:00.320: was focusing on bringing good talent around me, have them work with me, but then if I needed to fill in the gap, I could do that.
00:00.320: I wanted to know anything and everything about and during the process of being in the business as long as I have on the audio side of things and then into the visual side of things, I think it's allowed me that
00:00.320: being immersed in all of the various aspects and bits and bobs of of the s of the sh uh the the industry, you know, directing and shooting and cutting and music and like you said, even down to compression and deliverables.
00:00.320: Find myself not doing that when I actually should because it would save me time.
00:00.320: Command.
00:00.320: designating a library storage location that is outside the actual library file, and that's in the library preferences panel.
00:00.320: I was just curious how you worked.
00:00.320: Specific job folder.
00:00.320: because I wanted to quickly get the things done necessary and be able to be able to do it anywhere.
00:00.320: it'll tether me to a desk for the rest of my life after that point.
00:00.320: I traveled with a Mac tower.
00:00.320: And so through his nerd sleuthing, if you will, he's been able to predict a lot of various features.
00:00.320: Features get released, and he predicted it because those features are alluded to inside the code of iMovie.
00:00.320: Because the iMovie tends to get released a little bit before Final Cut.
00:00.320: It's a little tiny iPod for mirror casting.
00:00.320: is clever.
00:00.320: I want what I want to ask about, though, is what do you think Meerkat is?
00:00.320: and a big antenna popped up trying to get transmit their information to the the receiver.
00:00.320: Is something where you can do exactly the same thing.
00:00.320: Immediate feedback as to whether or not you're entertaining or not.
00:00.320: or in her apartment or at a party or in a jacuzzi or at a you know uh an event and they are just interacting with
00:00.320: you know, 10, 20, 40, 50, 60, 80 people that log in to see what's going on.
00:00.320: And I asked one of the girls last night, I said, Does arsenic just say, use our feed?
00:00.320: I think that there's that there are ways that Meerkat can become something, but I think that clearly we don't know what it is yet.
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: today or tomorrow.
00:00.320: And you were like, I don't know what that means.
00:00.320: Yes.
00:00.320: The Periscope community is more about what is happening right now, not, oh, I got to go download this thing and then I'm going to listen to it, and it's going to be from a week ago.
00:00.320: that works.
00:00.320: Yeah, they're a Hungarian company, but they I guess they're international now.
00:00.320: me.
00:00.320: And that way you will actually be notified as soon as he logs on.
00:00.320: There's something else Monday night.
00:00.400: Because every time you engage with the Meerkat, it tweets that Fenwick is playing with the Meerkat thing again.
00:00.400: Broadcasting tool, a personal social broadcasting tool.
00:00.400: Last night, I was on the Meerkat and I'm scrolling through various feeds and I go, oh, here, this looks interesting.
00:00.400: Because it's solid and compelling, but it doesn't get in the way of the message that I am slipping that music underneath.
00:00.400: Please go to fcpworks.
00:00.400: I've been in those kind of situations.
00:00.400: I would generally edit based on what the music would make me feel initially, even before I know some people do it in the reverse aspect of it.
00:00.400: you know, kind of hone in and kind of push a little bit more on the creative aspect of it.
00:00.400: That was the first jump into Final Cut.
00:00.400: manipulate your video and in a style that can be easily easily for somebody to understand and remember and work with
00:00.400: And actually some people may only call it three, but we call it four and a half.
00:00.400: Our product, Final Cut Pro.
00:00.400: push, you know?
00:00.400: I do not look like Bruce Willis.
00:00.400: Very interesting location that they picked.
00:00.400: Yes, he's the founder of the band.
00:00.400: In Final Cut Classic, the old Final Cut.
00:00.400: I mean, of course, there was a little couple of bugs here and there, but every product has that when it first comes out, especially when it comes to the first version of it.
00:00.400: Even on just like a video shot where like it's just a wee bit too static, boom, throw that on.
00:00.400: across the nation.
00:00.400: That you can't replace, you can't find that anywhere.
00:00.400: What's that voice?
00:00.400: uh back in the States that I didn't realize was playing also, you know, all over Europe.
00:00.400: Size and length and nature of the project.
00:00.400: And so I was talking with the producer and he said, Well, well, why wouldn't you keep the stuff?
00:00.400: Right.
00:00.400: Jack.
00:00.400: this community the businesses in this community need a little help in selling their business and their products and services.
00:00.400: twenty four years ago, what the hell is this web thing you're working on?
00:00.400: woman, who is currently, I think, number two in the Meerkat leaderboard.
00:00.400: back.
00:00.400: credibility to the product itself, making things right instantaneous, right there.
00:00.400: Your cat pulled it off.
00:00.400: uh worldwide of course and then uh so if you're listening to this Monday morning on your on your uh commute home
00:00.400: Deal or no deal.
00:00.480: Which is what I'm calling it.
00:00.480: For one of my our clients this week, and every cut of music we auditioned came from Premium Beat.
00:00.480: It you know, it and it it's definitely rhythm based.
00:00.480: Okay.
00:00.480: You know, Bruce Willis's kid.
00:00.480: I love that song.
00:00.480: Okay, so let's let's get back onto the video track.
00:00.480: I remember the first time somebody showed me, and this would be about 14 years ago, be about 2000, 2001, something like that.
00:00.480: Yes.
00:00.480: To get them to like you more and more and more.
00:00.480: advance.
00:00.480: didn't I I was really tired of trying to rely on people to make gigs, you know, or make studio s uh sessions or what have you.
00:00.480: I don't if I can't have anybody else around, I like to know I can get it done myself.
00:00.480: Gotcha.
00:00.480: Um but more and more my schedule is tied up sitting at an edit desk and so
00:00.480: So you like the fact that quite often you're shooting and cutting what you're what you've shot.
00:00.480: We can go through the process.
00:00.480: little small town totally removed from anywhere and everywhere and I hear one of my dad's songs come on.
00:00.480: a legitimate workflow where you are accustomed to keeping all of your bits and bobs and pieces gathered together in what we do here at our offices.
00:00.480: actually have as long as that extra copy is actually on a center and hardware.
00:00.480: either Final Cut Pro for the iOS or we're going to see the Mac OS devolve, I believe, into being much more like the iOS.
00:00.480: Well, you know, good luck to them.
00:00.480: And look at all the commerce and s s socializing and stuff that happens via the web today.
00:00.480: Drinks tequila into the night in her bikini top and rambles on, you know, incessantly saying absolutely nothing for hours on end.
00:00.480: In the leaderboard.
00:00.480: And that's like, oh, interesting.
00:00.480: whatever.
00:00.480: But that it's a good product.
00:00.480: m.
00:00.560: If you could care less about Meerkat, you might want to just sign off.
00:00.560: You will you would have been privy to me giving a meerkat uh demo of one of my
00:00.560: One of the things that I'm always trying to promote is the fact that although not advertised, there are many workflows and techniques that you can do
00:00.560: who you know deals with it in a an environment where they have like fifteen people all using Final Cut.
00:00.560: I enjoyed the people there.
00:00.560: Respect and learn as much as you can.
00:00.560: For me, the cheapest possible way to get it done, but top level, make it look great.
00:00.560: Even like you were saying, even the music side, I think that was another part of it.
00:00.560: I'm kind of a I don't know, I won't want to say lazy at it, but because I'm constantly wearing so many hats, I generally
00:00.560: stuff around to other people.
00:00.560: Or the third option is that we will see final cu uh we will see iMovie
00:00.560: But scroll down to the bottom of the page and you can see the built-in bottle opener as part of the MirrorPod design, which I gotta say
00:00.560: You know, I I I was sitting down with Steve, one of the guys that works here with me at Slice Editorial, where I work in Oakland.
00:00.560: which is a guy who looks like he needs some beef and he just sits in his barka lounger in his parents' bedroom living room.
00:00.560: And they are using a term or a technique that I actually asked one of their models.
00:00.560: So it's like, if I want to know what to do in San Francisco, I would log on and check out SF Nights.
00:00.560: And all of a sudden, there are people that are maybe at home or maybe at another event going, oh, hey, this place looks like it's hopping.
00:00.560: Give each and every one of them their just due.
00:00.560: Yes, twenty seconds ago.
00:00.560: But I don't know that it would last for very long.
00:00.640: A lot of times we build something and kind of field of dreams like if we build it, they will come.
00:00.640: I hope I didn't keep you up too late.
00:00.640: Absolutely.
00:00.640: But a lot of people look at it as a soloist's tool.
00:00.640: He was the first producer of Survivor, and he won many awards for it and that whole nine
00:00.640: That's my dad.
00:00.640: And I was telling the everybody, I said, Yeah, there's Ray was really clever.
00:00.640: Archon, A-R-K-O-N, and it is a ball joint and a spring clip to grab the phone, and then it has a little thing that you can attach to any tripod that you need.
00:00.640: That's how I envision people using it.
00:00.640: Okay?
00:00.640: Log in and represent me for 30 minutes or an hour.
00:00.640: And for the hour that you are running it, you can be saying, hey, come down to our event.
00:00.640: She keeps saying the phrase for life.
00:00.640: Thank you for asking.
00:00.720: I have been really getting into this thing called Meerkat.
00:00.720: Broadcasting live Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday with a whole bevy of guests.
00:00.720: And I was like, okay, what's he gonna, you know?
00:00.720: But I took the gig and no problem.
00:00.720: Yeah, it um so we we went there and this guy walks in with the beanie and he introduced himself and said, I want to play with you guys, man.
00:00.720: Maybe you skipped that chapter or something.
00:00.720: had some money in my pocket and was able to to bounce.
00:00.720: type of music, the licensing aspects of those music.
00:00.720: some sort of awards show or something.
00:00.720: XML is coming for final cut in 10.
00:00.720: Nearcat to me is a portable way to report.
00:00.720: Okay.
00:00.720: So, um agreed uh ag uh somebody on uh Twitter is saying
00:00.720: Wow, man.
00:00.720: MirrorLife.
00:00.720: So, anyway, yeah, no, I want to say, I think, oh, what I was going to say about Periscope.
00:00.800: I you know, at 10, I understand why, you know, there were people that were kind of negative about it initially.
00:00.800: Especially when you're for me, the rhythm and even the music connecting with the beat, you know, four on the ground or what have you, four on the floor type of style.
00:00.800: But I was able to use that in iMovie to kind of document everything, and I kept constantly documenting and capturing it, and eventually started making producing shows around it.
00:00.800: For brief periods of time.
00:00.800: But clearly performance but clearly performance is part of it too.
00:00.800: Now I'm looking at hottest mom in America on IMDB.
00:00.800: I'm sure you probably have a few of them sitting there for yourself there.
00:00.800: open up and release more of the features of Final Cut Pro.
00:00.800: So, and I'm using a little Joby Flexi thing that I can mount like on the center console in my car because I've been doing a lot of mirror casting, tisk, tisk, as I drive.
00:00.800: models on there from Hollywood to San Diego.
00:00.800: People or maybe just businesses, and you say, hey, look, my Meerkat stream typically gets 100 people watching it.
00:00.800: the first thing that comes to my mind, I was using Meerkat first.
00:00.800: And I think that the persistent chat, not only is it persistent, but with the 1.
00:00.800: Gotcha.
00:00.800: I haven't scheduled yet because they don't allow scheduling for more than twenty four hours in advance, right?
00:00.800: Very cool.
00:00.800: I want to thank everybody for listening.
00:00.800: If you see me, walk up to me and say, Hi, I am Chris Fenwick.
00:00.880: The licensing is wicked easy.
00:00.880: And I hope you enjoy this chat about Fanaka 10 and that little yellow meerkat.
00:00.880: Well, let's see.
00:00.880: What you're referring to, and I want to be clear about this because this I think is a really important thing to wrap your head around.
00:00.880: Since I I generally didn't work in team situations, I didn't have that feeling that everybody else had once
00:00.880: I definitely enjoy bringing the talent in and having them basically do the process.
00:00.880: Yeah, okay.
00:00.880: That feature, I would be thinking in terms of just having a second copy at any given time along the same at the same time, so to speak.
00:00.880: Coming out for Final Cut.
00:00.880: But I think time will time will tell.
00:00.880: Not the least of which, I think the most interesting thing that I have seen on Meerkat is not bad beef.
00:00.880: Yes, Nick, one of the listeners is saying almost immediate.
00:00.880: No.
00:00.960: definitely helps as an editor.
00:00.960: He still plays.
00:00.960: I mean, I was I got into it and I saw that it what it was capable of doing and was able able to apply it.
00:00.960: Being able to do that.
00:00.960: Which just all it really does for you at this point is make your hard drive fill up twice as fast.
00:00.960: You don't know what they are, but if you just want people to know about you by roping in various, I'll call them social celebrities.
00:01.040: In that last 15 minutes.
00:01.040: Sony XL1, what was that called?
00:01.040: We walk in.
00:01.040: Okay, so Final Khaten comes out.
00:01.040: Generally, it started way back again being in the music.
00:01.040: The fact that you can do so much on a MacBook Pro or even an iPad using iMovie, I think I do think that there is in the next few years, we're going to see
00:01.040: In one of its legs.
00:01.040: And then and I'll ask you the obligatory question, why do you prefer Meerkat over Periscope?
00:01.040: And if somebody chats something new, it doesn't jump down to the end of the chat again.
00:01.040: Chris, thank you very much.
00:01.120: I know you don't, but that's why I'm here.
00:01.120: But it's more robust.
00:01.120: Yeah, you know, it looks like a render almost.
00:01.120: What is wrong with you?
00:01.200: In the stream last night, you very publicly said that you had been a musician.
00:01.200: As it has turned out, the plug in community for Final Cut X is, I believe, way more way stronger and more robust than it ever was for Final Cut seven.
00:01.200: And you take this thing and you drop it onto a photo or a video clip or whatever, and by default, it will do a perfect little 5% grow.
00:01.200: I don't know how well it did.
00:01.200: And I know that they were giving me the mediums from their camera and I would you know, we would drop it into Final Cut.
00:01.200: Go look at this.
00:01.200: I think that's kind of a mistake waiting to happen.
00:01.200: And I would almost buy one just because they had the balls up to put a bottle opener.
00:01.200: I'm showing my my Meerkat people as well.
00:01.200: So let's say, for example, I live in San Francisco, outside of San Francisco.
00:01.200: I will give you my feed and let you do a takeover from your bar or nightclub or disco or event.
00:01.200: And so what you do of taking on comments and questions in a one-on-one individual way, you could not do on Periscope.
00:01.200: Later, later.
00:01.280: That is correct.
00:01.280: Yeah, we've heard those songs.
00:01.280: I'll do it on Monday.
00:01.280: Well, this will be out by then.
00:01.280: Meet us there 11:59 p.
00:01.360: And then we talked quite a bit about Final Cut and how he uses it and his love of the app.
00:01.360: But so yeah, I think that's cool.
00:01.360: I'm gonna have to write that name down.
00:01.360: We haven't spoken too much.
00:01.360: So anyway, you know, I this I think this topic is really interesting, and I am I was thinking about it this morning after you and I set the time to meet today.
00:01.360: I think we're on to something here.
00:01.440: So let's talk about you were s to get back to this working solo thing.
00:01.440: If you do not opt to leave in place, you're immediately, and you've copied your camera data off of your card onto your hard drive, and then you do import into library, you're immediately going to end up with two copies of your media.
00:01.440: Personal social broadcasting, personal social broadcasting with live interaction.
00:01.440: And that's it.
00:01.520: I'm just kind of new to it.
00:01.520: Right.
00:01.520: And so we found a loop in GarageBand and we pulled it out.
00:01.520: He's got some great plugins, which I use all the time.
00:01.520: I don't have to depend on anyone anymore.
00:01.520: So how do you do you do any customization of the library preferences?
00:01.520: I always forget what it's called over there, the far right-hand corner, Command Four.
00:01.520: Or Celebutards, if you will.
00:01.600: I don't know that I've ever heard anybody else say that.
00:01.600: And I guess my sales pitch kind of just I just tried to use every tool that I had around me to kind of
00:01.600: And I looked around the corner, and it was the host of a show that I directed back in those days.
00:01.600: Now, I have a question for you, and this gets to one of the topics that comes up quite a bit on the show.
00:01.600: I can try that.
00:01.600: I was going to say, what's her name again?
00:01.680: So, can I ask you, Ray, what what uh do you mind talking about the um um
00:01.680: And I got a chance to work with him on this project.
00:01.680: You know, I do to a point.
00:01.680: So here's a business model all of a sudden where you do a series of takeovers throughout an evening.
00:01.680: I think there's something there.
00:01.760: I want to thank the people at Premium Beat.
00:01.760: And that's the gentleman that was the let's see, what was his role?
00:01.760: Right, exactly.
00:01.760: I know I can help with that process or be insightful and explain things in the terms that he would understand or she would understand.
00:01.760: So every single piece of media or stuff that goes into a piece lives in that job folder in one subfolder or another.
00:01.760: Do you enjoy the interviewer?
00:01.840: com page if you can't remember that extra seven characters.
00:01.840: And I talk about this like it seems like every other show, maybe every show.
00:01.840: Business model right there.
00:01.920: com.
00:01.920: It was fun.
00:01.920: That's awesome.
00:01.920: What you learn, what there are and what and they bring something to the table that
00:01.920: I'm a big dot-com.
00:01.920: Well, I'm going to tell you the one reason right away that it doesn't work for you.
00:01.920: Tuesday night, there's something.
00:02.000: But I think Tin is an awesome product.
00:02.000: I'm shocked that people do that.
00:02.000: So I thought about it and I knew I wanted to live in Europe after traveling there so often and living in
00:02.000: He's still a a professional drummer.
00:02.000: I just picked up the books, opened up the and read cover to cover.
00:02.000: Mirrorpod M-E-E-R-P-O-D dot com.
00:02.000: It was and you are a very kind person, and it was pleasurable to listen to you go through your questions that were coming in and
00:02.000: Well, website itself is Ray Brown, my name.
00:02.080: Chris.
00:02.080: So you are you fall squarely into the category of people that I hate.
00:02.080: So, um, yeah, and I will say that, you know, there there is that aspect to post-production.
00:02.080: I generally generally editing off of externals primarily, but from a generally from a laptop.
00:02.080: All right.
00:02.160: I was leading the witness there, by the way.
00:02.160: And it's also interesting how when you when you're because a lot of times I'm editing with people that are not as passionate about
00:02.160: It works great for an individual, and I have some questions about that for you in a minute.
00:02.160: You know, if they're if they're if it uh if it works and they are able to uh I was telling the the so I started this stream fifteen minutes uh before we s started chatting.
00:02.160: com.
00:02.240: They've been very gracious to support us.
00:02.240: So that was my background for the most part.
00:02.240: And a friend of mine was telling me about Craigslist.
00:02.240: And one of the things that he has done on multiple occasions is looked at the code inside iMovie and said, oh.
00:02.240: Yeah, it's been very interesting.
00:02.320: Oh, no, it was fine.
00:02.320: Well, you sound like a musician asking some of these questions.
00:02.320: And there's guys here on the stream, like Ben from Not Central Illinois.
00:02.320: It's just amazing to me.
00:02.320: And we basically take took women that were moms and we wanted to put them on a a pedestal as a you know, you you would think
00:02.320: I don't see the crew.
00:02.320: Well, you know, one of the things that came up in my mind when you were talking about this just backup, really, I didn't.
00:02.320: Well, no, no, more than that, because what I'm saying is you can scroll backwards through the chat, which you cannot do on Periscope.
00:02.320: And I don't want another Scott Simmons incident like he ambushed me last year at the post-chat meetup.
00:02.400: You know, this show, we're going to get to talking about Final Cut.
00:02.400: Yeah, that is true.
00:02.400: But and I think that was also a big complaint, as you said, a lot of the being able to connect a lot of the plugins that you had originally had into it.
00:02.400: And I said, why would you import into the library?
00:02.400: If I assume if you get the image in your mind about a news crew with a truck.
00:02.480: If you're a lousy actor, you're a lousy actor.
00:02.480: Those are huge, dude.
00:02.480: I traveled with a twelve by twelve Wacom stylus tablet, you know, custom cases for everything.
00:02.480: I haven't.
00:02.560: I couldn't pronounce any of the words that they have in Hungary.
00:02.560: And yeah, you know, and I do know that, like, for example, I actually know of somebody who, without giving away any details,
00:02.560: And I was like, oh, this is going to save so much time.
00:02.560: Wow.
00:02.560: Yeah, I got really lucky to be able to get at least get on it.
00:02.560: I know some guys, they were having these big cases and they would drop.
00:02.560: So what do you think?
00:02.640: The question is: just going, is it going to be you or somebody else?
00:02.640: Had a great time, but I'm a city boy at heart.
00:02.640: And then the of course the now since 10.
00:02.720: And I come from a kind of mid-70s, going into 80s background.
00:02.720: Um, would you like to do our commercial for a clothing line?
00:02.720: Over here, we got another musical interlude.
00:02.720: What was it?
00:02.720: When you sit down with people that know the industry and you just listen, you can soak up so much stuff.
00:02.720: It's like, oh, that's that's weird.
00:02.720: So if you can get your $7.
00:02.720: So I figured it would be a good time to at least give them at least a chance to convince me that it's a good product, not saying that I'll move over.
00:02.800: So I don't know if Idaho has anything like that, but that may have been part of the the draw to to s to stuff like that.
00:02.800: And not to mention guys like Alex Golner, my friend Alex in London, who has this huge collection of plug-ins on his website that he gives away for free.
00:02.800: Oh, really?
00:02.800: He's a great guy.
00:02.800: I have no idea what that means.
00:02.800: Well, um, I don't know.
00:02.880: And I'm like, Oh, really?
00:02.880: So, even if you think I'm nuts, you are going to want to listen to that because somebody's going to do it.
00:02.880: I spent, I guess, the last four or five days deciding that I would participate, and it's been a lot of fun.
00:02.880: So Premium Beat is a curated group of music.
00:02.880: And that leads me to the next question.
00:02.880: And then I got onto a project in Europe.
00:02.880: And then with that, I just I wanted to get away from the audio side.
00:02.880: It started in his grandmother's my grandmother's garage, his mother's garage.
00:02.880: He's going to kill me.
00:02.880: You have no idea what you all mean to me.
00:02.960: My father is a top musician.
00:02.960: And but I think the luck has a lot to do with it.
00:02.960: But yeah, you just read it and it gives you all the information you need.
00:02.960: So you were giving it the benefit of the doubt, going, Yeah, it's gonna be okay.
00:02.960: Right.
00:02.960: Sometimes it is comfortable to know that all I have to do is take this one file, this library file, called
00:02.960: But there is a certain comfort in that if you don't have
00:03.040: Yep, it's probably another one of those premiere guys.
00:03.040: So you you went to Europe, you did a few gigs, you did the a couple of commercials.
00:03.040: And it's like, What the hell are you doing?
00:03.040: This this uh uh show will come out uh Sunday evening here in the States.
00:03.040: Somebody's going to do it, and they're going to have to thank me for it.
00:03.120: Hello, hello, good morning, and welcome to another episode of The Grill, Final Cut Grill number 116.
00:03.120: And you know what?
00:03.120: You're probably not going to get the job.
00:03.120: Yeah, we've heard of your dad, okay.
00:03.120: Oh, really?
00:03.120: And it's, you know, I cherish those those little nuggets of knowledge.
00:03.120: But my thing is, I'm an editor.
00:03.120: If somebody talks about cameras and talking about uh techniques and stuff, I can uh help with that.
00:03.120: And I don't think it is, what's her name?
00:03.120: And I'm like, yeah, my damn keyboard locked up and it accidentally sent.
00:03.200: Incos, well, you know, my final cut guide.
00:03.200: Well, you know, I think there was a lot of luck on my side for sure.
00:03.200: Yeah, no, I would agree.
00:03.200: You know, is it a real product?
00:03.200: So, Arsenic Magazine is a model agency in LA.
00:03.280: How are you doing, sir?
00:03.280: See, that to me is amazing.
00:03.280: You know what I mean?
00:03.280: That's classic.
00:03.280: Now it might be a very big file.
00:03.280: And I said, you know what?
00:03.360: Those are actually off of iTunes.
00:03.360: It was a pleasure to hear you talk.
00:03.360: He goes, Let's just pull out a beat in GarageBand and we'll cut to that.
00:03.360: I enjoy learning, but I enjoy listening.
00:03.360: But it was basically in seven or eight different cities
00:03.360: And there's certain things that I, that I'm cutting, rises.
00:03.360: Man, you're giving away the prize, man.
00:03.440: And then uh you'd mentioned something about, you know, making commercials and getting involved, you know, in about I think you said about two thousand one.
00:03.440: It's just not going to be possible.
00:03.440: How did that come about?
00:03.440: Let me try that.
00:03.440: So he basically that was Bruce Willis.
00:03.440: You don't know Alex?
00:03.440: I need to get my hands on that.
00:03.440: You know, what's wild is that when I go to like Hungary, for instance, it's not a place a destination for many people, especially from North America, and I go into a little small venue
00:03.440: Now I'm going to tell you why I don't like that.
00:03.520: Yeah, no problem.
00:03.520: What would happen is I would run out of money and I would come straight back to California.
00:03.520: But Bruce he said that he broke his leg filming a show not too far from there, and he was laid up in that town.
00:03.520: I think that it has legs to stand on.
00:03.520: What did you think of my million dollar idea at the end there?
00:03.600: I'm shocked that people just like look at it and go, I need to see this shot for that long, and then we'll deal with the music later.
00:03.600: It was about eight years ago or something.
00:03.600: Are you kidding me?
00:03.600: Now, here is a business model.
00:03.600: I used to own like 100,000 domain names back in the day, and I did crazy stuff.
00:03.680: The music is awesome.
00:03.680: Well, very cool.
00:03.680: It was awesome.
00:03.680: It's like, why do we not have that reversal?
00:03.680: How's the body of music going to sound?
00:03.760: com slash nab twenty fifteen, or there's a button at the top of the um
00:03.760: He said that he was there for the last six months.
00:03.760: That camera?
00:03.760: And I said, look, let me at least put some of these shows up on your deadtime, you know, and just making deals like that.
00:03.760: I came back.
00:03.760: I wasn't familiar with it.
00:03.760: They own the business in California, at least a lion's share of it.
00:03.760: That's awesome.
00:03.760: Maybe.
00:03.760: Those two things will get to me, no problem.
00:03.840: And they're like, well, I want to move that.
00:03.840: And at that point, he loved that so much that he said, Look, I got this reality TV show project coming up, and if you're interested.
00:03.840: Now, were you like a certified trainer, or were you faking it like I do?
00:03.840: Well, I you know, I couldn't it wouldn't have been a place necessarily I would have personally picked, although it was
00:03.840: Yeah, they got to get on that thing.
00:03.840: Not to say that I don't like that.
00:03.840: And I got in charge of shooting that whole process.
00:03.840: It's Mirpod.
00:03.840: Life!
00:03.840: You're a stellar man.
00:03.920: And if you don't know about Meerkat, you're not following me on Twitter.
00:03.920: Fell in love with the place.
00:03.920: Yeah, I um uh we were playing a gig.
00:03.920: I left back, obviously, to Europe again after that.
00:03.920: It is those relationships and those bonds that you create with people.
00:03.920: Right.
00:04.000: It's interesting, to say the least.
00:04.000: To be fair, I don't think you want to ever use past tense when you say I had been a musician.
00:04.000: So, this is the little clampy thing that I bought, which is it's made by a company called.
00:04.000: It might be 10 episodes and then be in and out and done.
00:04.080: Absolutely.
00:04.080: And I had a couple of people from different schools call me up and say, Yeah, we'd like to use it privately.
00:04.080: He still plays with four of the original members.
00:04.080: I was like, a post office.
00:04.080: I think Meerkat is definitely onto something when it comes to that.
00:04.080: m.
00:04.160: I'm doing well.
00:04.160: But do you think that helped you in the other instruments that you played?
00:04.160: And you were doing quite well at that, by the way.
00:04.160: And in our business, we have four edit suites, five, depending on how you count.
00:04.160: So, the whole thing is that people, if they just read them, they read the books.
00:04.160: What was your first reaction to it then?
00:04.160: I would be lost without the plug in with the Call Outs plugin that Mark Spencer created.
00:04.160: I mean, what are we going to be using?
00:04.160: And he looks at it and he goes, Oh, look what's coming in Final Cut.
00:04.240: Kill me.
00:04.240: That's cool.
00:04.240: Exactly the same thing.
00:04.240: Yeah, it probably will.
00:04.240: I don't know if we know what it is yet.
00:04.240: Ray, I'm going to let you go.
00:04.320: So I on The Meerkat, you can tweet or uh chat with somebody, and I said, What edit software do you use?
00:04.320: It was a reality show called it was called Hottest Mom in America.
00:04.320: It's just one of those bonds that you really need to
00:04.320: Um, they're out of um France, but they came to Budapest for
00:04.320: He was using a coffee coffee mug for an iPhone stand last night.
00:04.320: I'm thinking of people that go into communities and decide, you know what?
00:04.320: Monday night I'm going to FCPX Gurus.
00:04.400: And I'm like, score, you're going to be on the show.
00:04.400: They might have people more entertained at least watching these corporate
00:04.400: Or actually, no, like you were saying before, I actually started with iMovie.
00:04.400: I can do this.
00:04.400: I will, for sure.
00:04.400: Those kind of contacts and I would agree there are certain jobs in your career where
00:04.400: I think I think that has value.
00:04.400: Also, have you scheduled your next event?
00:04.400: m.
00:04.400: Because we didn't know if midnight was 12 a.
00:04.400: I'm one of these and stop.
00:04.480: And I guess the kind of music that I was pretty much into at the time was
00:04.480: Do you think that rhythm background helps you in telling stories and editing?
00:04.480: And I think that that's part of the impetus behind this podcast is the fact that
00:04.480: It's like twenty second delay.
00:04.480: 95 back from GoDaddy for mere life, you might want to rethink that one.
00:04.560: Do you think starting as a drummer laid a foundation for any instrument?
00:04.560: Now you've mentioned that.
00:04.560: So you at after your music, and again, not after your music career, but at a certain point.
00:04.560: So about six months after that, I kind of got away from the band.
00:04.560: Oh, yeah.
00:04.560: I'm actually going to have to pick your brain.
00:04.560: I mean, just be a sponge.
00:04.560: So with Final Cut, it was or just video editing or shooting or producing projects of that nature.
00:04.560: I did do some customization for them to a point, but I generally
00:04.560: 0 because he could see the code was in there to implement it.
00:04.640: I needed some more strength with it.
00:04.640: I don't know.
00:04.640: I didn't have any money.
00:04.640: It's crazy.
00:04.640: I just turned it on and show them the coffee cup that I was using for that.
00:04.640: Yeah.
00:04.640: But by roping in various Celebutards and say, here is my login.
00:04.640: Pacific time.
00:04.720: Well, no, I'll tell you.
00:04.720: There's a lot of people that make plugins, not the least of which would be like Mark Spencer.
00:04.720: One more music cut while we're here.
00:04.720: So when she drinks too much tequila in her bikini in her kitchen while she continually cooks and eats.
00:04.720: What is she saying again?
00:04.720: And then also late Tuesday night at 11:59 p.
00:04.800: You know, we can't do this.
00:04.880: You're going to hear a few music drops in this interview.
00:04.880: Yeah.
00:04.880: Alex4D.
00:04.880: You just go droom, drop it on, copy and paste that attribute across a bunch of clips and you're done.
00:04.880: And he's on for hours at a day.
00:04.960: It's a pleasure to hear your voice in my headphones as opposed to over my phone in the middle of the night last night.
00:04.960: You're very a very level headed, entertaining guy, very peaceful.
00:04.960: Yeah.
00:04.960: You could also carry around a big giant battery.
00:04.960: I don't know.
00:04.960: Let's say I wanted to make a Meerkat stream called SF Nights.
00:04.960: I appreciate you allowing me to be a part of this.
00:05.040: I mean, I've been in this business for 30 years
00:05.040: Yes, dad on drums.
00:05.040: So that was the purpose of the show.
00:05.040: You can't.
00:05.040: Second of all, it doesn't look like it recli it tilts at all.
00:05.040: And she responded back, she goes, Yes, it's called a takeover.
00:05.040: Oh, and by the way, there was one of my messages where I said, I have a and I typed PO in capitals.
00:05.120: And I don't think we really know what it is yet.
00:05.120: But we go into a long discussion, I don't know, 10, 15 minute discussion about Meerkat, what it is, how people are using it.
00:05.120: And then you go, and then I asked you on the
00:05.120: And we share assets all the time, and we share responsibilities on things all the time.
00:05.200: I was like, Yeah, sure, knowing that I had never done it before, ever
00:05.200: Mini DV.
00:05.200: And then last night you were saying that on occasion you will come back to the States.
00:05.200: And I was like, really?
00:05.200: You know, I have a funny story about Bruce Willis, by the way.
00:05.200: I was thirteen, I played seven different instruments, something like that.
00:05.200: I do enjoy collaboration for sure.
00:05.200: And please, regardless of how many times you've tweeted me or meercatted me or interacted with me in any number of ways,
00:05.280: They are also helping us get to Alex and I get to the Las Vegas town
00:05.280: And it was only about a 90-second piece or something.
00:05.280: And I'm like, no, you really can't.
00:05.280: You know, I think I guess the corporate aspect of things, if they would just kind of allow us creative people to really
00:05.280: So I started editing it, but I realized he didn't really have a skill set when it came to kind of directing and telling me how to put it together.
00:05.280: And they said, why don't you put an ad in there about doing whatever you do?
00:05.280: But we actually try to try to make it into something more authentic, like a mom
00:05.280: And also, I got a chance to work with someone that became my
00:05.280: But oh man, it'll come to me.
00:05.280: I think just knowing that I've done all of that, it's giving me an insight to be able to produce things and not feel
00:05.280: How do we license that?
00:05.280: You know, it might be tens or hundreds of gigabytes depending on the
00:05.280: Yes, I have seen a couple of them there.
00:05.360: I think it got a bad wrapped early, but I think people turned it around.
00:05.360: A funny story, I'll make it short.
00:05.360: A good friend of mine used to follow me around when he was in the country to different gigs that I was performing at.
00:05.360: You can pull it out of your pocket, you can turn it on right away
00:05.440: We'll slip.
00:05.440: Well, I you know, there may be luck.
00:05.440: Okay, go ahead.
00:05.440: He hired the band for his little town in Haley, Idaho.
00:05.440: I just, it changed me.
00:05.440: I mean, it really is.
00:05.440: It looks doesn't it doesn't it reek of a of a of a Kickstarter?
00:05.440: The next day, they walk into a donut shop and interviews them for a while.
00:05.440: 2 update from last night, you can scroll
00:05.520: I'm going to use your words against you or with you here.
00:05.520: I'm sitting up here wanting to listen to you rather than say anything.
00:05.520: Kind of a kind of a small world.
00:05.520: Well, now you don't need a big case.
00:05.520: You poor little white boy.
00:05.520: If people want to follow you on the web or Twitter or Meerkat, how do they find you on the Internet?
00:05.600: And as an editor, I appreciate the type of music.
00:05.600: And if you want to find out more about that or you want to come and sit in on the live studio audience
00:05.600: I said, oh man, how am I going to hustle some money here?
00:05.600: And I didn't go back to nine.
00:05.600: Right.
00:05.680: That'll make much more sense.
00:05.680: He was in a band that was pretty successful internationally.
00:05.680: There's a plugin on Alex's website called Grow Shrink.
00:05.680: Yeah, probably should.
00:05.680: I just like, uh
00:05.680: We have one.
00:05.680: They're a Hungarian based company I mean, they're a Hungarian based company.
00:05.760: And I'm just waiting for the
00:05.760: We're going to cross over, you know, this whole thing.
00:05.760: My goodness.
00:05.760: Something about mere life.
00:05.840: What you know, I mentioned Alex Golner earlier.
00:05.840: com, and they've actually tooled the thing to mimic a bottle opener.
00:05.840: It's like building on the backbone of Twitter to me was the smartest thing they could have ever done.
00:05.840: I mean, that's the next I see reality T V is trying to take that approach as well.
00:05.840: me.
00:05.920: That's funny.
00:05.920: I'm not really into the whole camera thing.
00:05.920: I found out my dad taught me a long time ago, if you want to hide something, put it in a book.
00:05.920: It is.
00:05.920: So if you want people to know about Arsenic magazine, now maybe you don't know
00:05.920: It leaves it where it is.
00:05.920: And of course, if you want to follow Ray on Meerkat, you can also once you find him through his same Twitter name, you can hit the follow button.
00:05.920: Exactly.
00:06.000: Maybe we don't know what it's going to be, but this idea of personal social broadcasting
00:06.000: He says he loves it.
00:06.000: Alex Fordy is a huge resource and a great guy, wicked smart.
00:06.000: You know, like I could see doing a podcast about Par uh Meerkat
00:06.080: Keyboards, piano was my last instrument.
00:06.080: They've been together for since they were sixteen years old.
00:06.080: So, did your dad and I think you said your dad played drums for war?
00:06.080: Just listen.
00:06.080: Wait, there's more.
00:06.080: But I think one of the most interesting, and this is.
00:06.080: But it's a model at a shoot.
00:06.160: I'm not a musician.
00:06.160: Right.
00:06.160: And and we thought, oh, okay, that's kind of cool.
00:06.160: And I gotta say, man, I think you got gipped out of a credit here.
00:06.160: So you tend to work solo in the projects that you work on?
00:06.160: That's all I do.
00:06.160: Great.
00:06.160: Yeah.
00:06.160: He'd go, I don't know, but I think it's gonna be big, you know.
00:06.160: If you had said if somebody had like said to Mark Andreessen,
00:06.160: Are you kidding me?
00:06.160: I've promised myself that I would use Periscope this weekend because I don't plan on doing any feeds
00:06.160: My hashtag is at Chris, or my handle is at Chris Fenwick.
00:06.240: So I was like, sold.
00:06.240: So that's where Final Flock came into play, and it saved me.
00:06.240: If it doesn't need to be licensed, you know, all these fat assets.
00:06.240: I say, I just can't get away from them.
00:06.240: You know, Ray likes Final Cut Pro.
00:06.320: We were doing a piece
00:06.320: And I started using iMovie.
00:06.320: And I was like, oh, that's my boss, 'cause he's the executive producer and the host of the show.
00:06.320: 1.
00:06.320: Do they just assign their feed to different models all the time?
00:06.320: R-A-Y-B-R-O-W-N dot me.
00:06.320: So then, Ray, let's keep in touch.
00:06.400: Nora Segora, who just
00:06.400: So, but it's a different person every time.
00:06.400: And it only has to do with this Nora Segoura
00:06.400: Do you think that's a go a go or no go?
00:06.400: m.
00:06.480: And I was just listening and kind of reading your bio and hearing you talk about
00:06.480: Uh I was playing with my dad's band at the time, uh, band called War.
00:06.480: com.
00:06.480: All of a sudden, there's a nice little push.
00:06.480: And the guys that were shooting it for me, people I had not worked with, some of them I had not worked with at all, I was really concerned about
00:06.560: So we will now join our interview with Ray Brown.
00:06.560: And I don't know.
00:06.560: It's great.
00:06.560: I know the keyboard shortcut for it, but I don't know what it's called.
00:06.560: And I said to him, I said, that there is a certain comfort zone if you are passing
00:06.560: Okay?
00:06.560: But I thought they would do it.
00:06.560: So my next event will actually be on Monday at eight o'clock.
00:06.560: or p.
00:06.640: So I brought a camera.
00:06.640: But I then I went into Budapest, and that's when I was able to lock down some serious kicks using
00:06.640: But if you know, having that name might get you in the door, like, oh, fine, send him in, I'll talk to him.
00:06.640: So why not?
00:06.640: Yeah.
00:06.640: But I think one of the most interesting things is a thing called
00:06.640: Um I you know
00:06.720: So, because I think it's an idea that is, I'm stealing from multiple people and melding it into one thing.
00:06.720: And he's been he's been on another episode.
00:06.720: You know, and so, like, you know, it doesn't matter if you are
00:06.720: Oh, very cool, too.
00:06.720: Exactly.
00:06.720: 2, we also have the ability of
00:06.720: That's great.
00:06.720: And first of all, I don't want to support my whole phone by the thunderbolt.
00:06.800: It was a project I it just landed in my lap.
00:06.800: He saw I was getting burnt down in the music side of things.
00:06.800: That would be cool.
00:06.880: No, definitely editing.
00:06.880: And so, and yes, I might, you, it.
00:06.880: Love that song, dad on drums.
00:06.880: Don't say anything.
00:06.880: And I think that's what I'm capable of.
00:06.880: For life.
00:06.880: m.
00:06.960: I have been schooled on that many, many times over the years.
00:06.960: You know, I think you're right about that.
00:06.960: What sound effects are we going to use to kind of emphasize certain points in the video?
00:06.960: I mean which generally was the case for me.
00:06.960: Or go to this event.
00:07.040: I thought, okay.
00:07.040: He knows how to look under the hood and see that.
00:07.040: I remember that.
00:07.040: And you're like staring at it, and you're like.
00:07.040: It is a pleasure to hear comments from you.
00:07.120: I'm thinking of the towers that they had before, but now they're.
00:07.120: So I think that Meerkat or the concept of personal broadcasting is what I call it.
00:07.120: Practice your craft, make sure you can talk well in front of the camera and stuff because everything is going to be live.
00:07.120: So 11:59 p.
00:07.200: I grew up in a family with musicians, but I
00:07.200: But Final Cut Pro X just has just some just outstanding ways of being able to really
00:07.200: Absolutely.
00:07.200: It's how cool to say, yeah, it's my dad.
00:07.200: Maybe, maybe.
00:07.200: Yeah, actually, you know what?
00:07.200: It is technology without a home, possibly.
00:07.200: I don't think we know what it's going to be.
00:07.200: Maybe they'll just buy me a little villa in the south of France.
00:07.280: I won't give it away yet.
00:07.280: You don't just send them your crap, they ask you to participate.
00:07.280: Absolutely.
00:07.280: So much knowledge.
00:07.280: And he's like one of the top five or six Mircasters.
00:07.280: For the next 60 minutes, cover is only $4 instead of $10.
00:07.280: Whatever.
00:07.360: I stayed in ten.
00:07.360: Well, not much now.
00:07.360: But and I don't know that the
00:07.440: We'll find something later.
00:07.440: Right
00:07.440: I thought I wanted to do audio initially, but I was so blown away about how beautiful it was there and how no one knew about it, like at least from where we're from.
00:07.440: I was like, nah, man, this is, I, I.
00:07.440: Definitely.
00:07.440: And it's what makes you grow.
00:07.440: So maybe with that.
00:07.440: I think one of the most interesting things is a feed called Arsenic Magazine.
00:07.440: So you can really concentrate on what people are not what they are saying, but what they have said.
00:07.520: Oh, okay.
00:07.520: And on the other side, um, Demi Moore had all of her doll houses and dolls and stuff sitting in there.
00:07.520: I mean, I think I'm afraid to even get on one of those because I'm afraid that I'll like it so much that
00:07.520: So yeah.
00:07.520: And they're trying to do live shows, like just bouncing around, right?
00:07.600: Right now, it's just fun.
00:07.600: But I gotta tell you, I love premium beat.
00:07.600: And if you were watching on I believe it was Thursday afternoon, maybe it was Friday morning, I can't remember now.
00:07.600: So wha what what did what kind of music did you play?
00:07.600: That's funny.
00:07.600: And he actually
00:07.600: But having to depend, like if something really needs to get done,
00:07.600: All of these things, I think, play an important role in making sure the product is
00:07.600: I think the this one has a bottle opener.
00:07.600: They will, surely.
00:07.600: So, when people chat you in Periscope, it only remains on screen for about five seconds and then it dissolves away.
00:07.680: So
00:07.680: And he's like, Yeah, we're keeping that.
00:07.680: Oh, let's hear it.
00:07.680: And if not that you're going to work with them again, but it's what you learn from them.
00:07.680: So, your episode 116, I've learned at least 116 things over the years.
00:07.680: Yeah, yeah, basically, yeah.
00:07.680: More life, yeah.
00:07.680: m.
00:07.760: One of my favorite songs is
00:07.760: Get their coffee.
00:07.760: And again, you know, um
00:07.760: I mean, dude, I've given away more than one million dollar idea in my life.
00:07.840: Want to chat with you.
00:07.840: It kind of needs to be there.
00:07.840: I don't shoot.
00:07.840: So, what will happen is periodically throughout the day, Arsenic Magazine will come up in your stream.
00:07.840: Yeah, that's a whole nother story.
00:07.840: Because I was trying to type, I have a podcast called FCPX Grill, and would you like to come and be on it sometime?
00:07.920: So Meerkat is a social
00:07.920: So yeah, I agree with you 100%.
00:07.920: Now, what year was that when you got asked to do the reality show?
00:07.920: I feel like such the DJ playing little samples out of iTunes here.
00:07.920: Being that I travel so much, the laptop thing was I would have two laptops over.
00:07.920: And then what you do is you get
00:08.000: And I started listening to this guy, and one thing leads to another.
00:08.000: And I will warn you, the last ten minutes or so of this interview
00:08.000: Yeah, absolutely.
00:08.000: Like if you're a lone wolf and you're just doing it on your own, you're fine.
00:08.000: I can kind of explain that out.
00:08.000: I like Final Cut Pro.
00:08.080: So George Clinton to Stevie Wonder to anything related to that, I just wanted to
00:08.080: We got this.
00:08.080: It is.
00:08.080: Yes, I'm I'm you are my fans for life.
00:08.080: But being that it's P backed on Twitter and people actually using Twitter, at least
00:08.160: I mean, um you know they always say about like the children of famous people
00:08.160: So it looks like it did one season in two thousand seven, so it wasn't dancing with the stars, but still
00:08.160: And sure enough, you know, three to six months later
00:08.160: , we're going to go to the DCC meetup at the Cosmopolitan Pool Table.
00:08.240: And, anyways, XL1 or something like that.
00:08.240: You know, honestly, I had this discussion with a producer the other day, and they're like
00:08.240: I've very much enjoyed chatting with you.
00:08.320: I had to kind of square everything away and I just decided to just bounce over.
00:08.320: That's my dad's singing that part, actually.
00:08.320: I was still directing it.
00:08.320: This is an interesting thing.
00:08.320: I I've and I'm going to tell you, Ray, I very much enjoyed listening to you last night.
00:08.400: I would have friends of mine that were using the same product, and they would say, How did you know how to do that?
00:08.400: You know what?
00:08.400: But, um
00:08.400: you know, so like
00:08.400: And no problem, Ray.
00:08.480: I think once a musician, you're always a musician, whether you're getting paid for it or not.
00:08.480: They do the editing.
00:08.480: I never take no for an answer in certain respects.
00:08.480: There you go.
00:08.480: And somebody showed me the paste attributes.
00:08.480: Describe Meerkat to somebody who's never heard of it.
00:08.560: I understood that based on, you know, these teams that work together and try to do things, you know, collectively.
00:08.560: And I was like, Cool.
00:08.560: And I said, well, what I do good.
00:08.560: I was I actually here I'll show
00:08.560: I'm surprised that Ustream
00:08.640: You said a single individual.
00:08.640: Do whatever is necessary.
00:08.640: It just wasn't turned on.
00:08.640: Oh, really?
00:08.640: m.
00:08.720: He had one side of the town, he had like a hotel and a few other things that were
00:08.720: Well, there's 115 hours of me, so you can listen to those.
00:08.720: I can be a part of that.
00:08.800: But as is the case with a lot of technology
00:08.800: And I'm like.
00:08.880: For me, again, I hate to go back to that individual thing, but for me,
00:08.880: I I we always had an external uh s uh sitting next to it, one of those little C drives that
00:08.960: It was uh it's uh iMovie's like um
00:08.960: And I was like, That's really smart
00:09.040: It's like, really I mean, I'd rather just
00:09.040: He says, Look, why don't you come out and
00:09.040: I mean it worked.
00:09.040: Okay, so working solo and
00:09.040: Alex is famous for
00:09.040: I think I'm seeing a few things that are quite interesting.
00:09.120: I bought one of those, uh, I think it was a XL
00:09.200: They said, look.
00:09.200: So I was teaching them, and then I ran into a producer that was
00:09.200: So uh but it was just one individual that really had an interest in working with us, but we didn't realize that until we actually got
00:09.200: It's supposed to be
00:09.200: And so
00:09.280: It did.
00:09.280: They're different.
00:09.280: He was the producer for the first Survivor.
00:09.280: We will see you there.
00:09.360: And it just interesting.
00:09.360: After I cut my hair last weekend, everybody said I'd look like Bruce Willis.
00:09.360: Oh, gotcha.
00:09.360: I mean, I'd travel with glass CRTs
00:09.440: Okay, plug-in situations, that had to kind of grow.
00:09.440: Cast.
00:09.440: I wanted to be able to bring to the table
00:09.440: And he was one of the first people to say
00:09.440: He's wicked smart.
00:09.440: We'll keep in touch.
00:09.520: I use that in the corporate videos that I use all the time, multiple times a week.
00:09.520: I direct on occasion.
00:09.520: Editing purposes, same thing.
00:09.520: Third pro that's the second problem.
00:09.520: Two users, thumbs up.
00:09.520: So
00:09.520: Another place, they might do dry cleaning.
00:09.600: Well, let's I want to hear more about you.
00:09.600: Confidence is an important aspect to that.
00:09.600: Um they've had a few hits along the way, Lowrider, Cisco Kid, Ykey and We Friends.
00:09.600: It's what makes you.
00:09.600: I get comments from people all the time going, oh, wow, I didn't know that, I learned that.
00:09.600: It was crazy town
00:09.680: Wow.
00:09.760: It worked well.
00:09.760: I can
00:09.760: And also every process down the line, even
00:09.760: That's crowd to me.
00:09.840: And yeah.
00:09.840: Is it?
00:09.840: And maybe we need to do a podcast all about Meerkat.
00:09.920: I mean, piano, let's face it, piano is a percussion instrument.
00:09.920: Who knows?
00:09.920: The very fact that they have created their own plug in generation tool
00:09.920: My Twitter name is Ray Brown underscore
00:10.000: Good grief.
00:10.000: It works.
00:10.000: You've said that a couple of times already just in the last five minutes.
00:10.160: I just finished a piece
00:10.160: Sorry, Sony, if I'm jacking that name up.
00:10.160: Maybe it is.
00:10.160: Who knows?
00:10.240: The first time I came back, it was after I did the project with
00:10.240: He says, well, I know Final Cut Pro now.
00:10.240: Oh my God.
00:10.240: And yes
00:10.240: Because I've seen.
00:10.240: Take care.
00:10.320: I mean, I'm not making any uh judgments on
00:10.400: It was a nice chat.
00:10.400: I wasn't I was already
00:10.400: Let's see if I can get the lighting right.
00:10.400: But I bought the name
00:10.480: And it's it is seriously, I use Gross Shrink every single day.
00:10.560: You know, it does, yeah.
00:10.560: Let's hop in our Uber car or lift car and go over there.
00:10.640: He's been on this show three or four times.
00:10.640: Hey, a totally off topic.
00:10.640: But no, I think that there is.
00:10.720: So, if you don't know yet.
00:10.720: I am oh I I am famous for life, for life, for life.
00:10.720: It's let's make this live.
00:10.800: That's nice, man.
00:10.800: But it's a
00:10.880: Oh, wow.
00:10.880: I used to travel
00:10.960: So there are ways to do that.
00:10.960: Thanks for listening, and we'll be back next week from NAB with another.
00:11.120: If I have an editor, I'm working with an editor.
00:11.120: Yes, as long as you
00:11.200: Yeah, they just kind of took me on on that.
00:11.200: Like, for example, I'll give you an
00:11.280: He's down there, I believe, in Los Angeles or San Diego, I think, today.
00:11.280: And I always like kind of, I don't know.
00:11.280: Love it.
00:11.360: I'm telling you right now, somebody will do this.
00:11.360: Thank you for participating in the Meerkat world.
00:11.360: I started
00:11.440: He's answering questions on his thing.
00:11.440: That was my thing.
00:11.520: You know, Bruce is an okay guy, whatever.
00:11.520: And
00:11.520: No, this is um
00:11.600: You can buy the songs, you can buy loops, you can buy shorts.
00:11.680: And you know what?
00:11.760: And I think that that's a
00:11.840: I cannot.
00:11.840: This
00:11.920: That's awesome.
00:11.920: It was it was one of the shows that I had directed and it was on the hotel
00:11.920: I would love a Mac Pro.
00:12.000: So
00:12.000: And
00:12.080: Today we're talking about you, though.
00:12.160: That is an awesome idea.
00:12.240: Is that right?
00:12.320: You know, I was just so I had to.
00:12.320: Is man, I'm now I'm saying it in my head.
00:12.320: I've just been.
00:12.400: And he responds back with
00:12.400: So let me just start teaching that.
00:12.480: But.
00:12.480: Otherwise, I wouldn't have asked you to come and be on this show.
00:12.560: And I just want to make sure that
00:12.960: So
00:13.520: It was really
00:13.520: Who knows?
00:13.600: I was like, I just.
00:13.600: You know, I just.
00:13.760: It's like, oh, sh
00:13.840: And
00:13.840: There it is.
00:14.000: I just.
00:14.400: Uh