Episode 114
FCG114 - Prepping for NAB2015 (feat. Sam Mestman)
Preparing for NAB 2015 I sat down and talked with my new boss, Sam Mestman of FCP Works. We go over a brief summary of each of the presentations that we will holding at the Presentation Suite during NAB. We also go over some of the event and party schedules and as well as announcing a special presentation by our friends at the Fruit Company.
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- Chris Fenwick
- Sam Mestman - fcpworks.com - @sammestman
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00:00.001: So I'm switching cameras here.
00:00.001: We're immediately adjacent, so it's not like a trek across town to get there.
00:00.001: That's a really big deal.
00:00.080: You're coming across the big-time broadcaster.
00:00.080: Yeah, no, Mark Bach is emailing me notes about what to say about his presentation coming up.
00:00.160: And you're going to want to check that out.
00:00.160: Uh, here in a couple of weeks, hello, sir, Sam Messman.
00:00.160: And there's so many people we wanted to have involved that like you can't get these people with busy schedules who want to see the floor to come and give you three days or four days of their time, especially if they're not like a lot of
00:00.160: Twitter account.
00:00.160: to it with extremely low expectations, and then you will be pleasantly surprised.
00:00.160: So the so basically the the release the release schedule follows that we're just going to skip a couple they skip a couple numbers for no for no real reason.
00:00.160: And they truly do their best to get those as polished as they possibly can before they hit the streets.
00:00.160: Oh, that, I don't think it does that.
00:00.160: So you definitely want to go and register and sign up for the things that you're most interested in.
00:00.160: Currently slated is Mark Spencer and Motion.
00:00.160: we're finally allowed to talk about it.
00:00.160: Yeah.
00:00.160: Final Cut Pro 10.
00:00.160: I'm just going to, again, a little sidetrack.
00:00.160: what NOAA does is bring kind of a structure to what we're doing as a company.
00:00.160: Force behind it.
00:00.160: what they're doing, why they made the switch, et cetera, et cetera.
00:00.160: Michael Glass is actually no longer at TED.
00:00.160: Talk about that a little bit because it's yeah.
00:00.160: You know, like when you get a guy's name like Bogdanov or Mark, whatever Mark's name is, so I'm going to spell that name wrong 75% of the time.
00:00.160: high end broadcast facility with lots of editors or you are about if you're looking to figure out how to integrate Final Cut X in a large enterprise environment, this is the presentation that you need to see.
00:00.160: Cool.
00:00.160: And sometimes people are like, oh, we're not ready.
00:00.160: to be properly implemented in Final Cut 10 since its inception.
00:00.160: I could do the same about Izo monitors.
00:00.160: And it's going to be fully Rec.
00:00.160: and how we get those files in and out.
00:00.160: He's a great guy.
00:00.160: And he actually spells it different.
00:00.160: To the 18 of you.
00:00.160: Well, and there's the Super Meet as well.
00:00.160: At 11:59 p.
00:00.160: It's so easy to keep them integrated.
00:00.160: Wednesday morning.
00:00.160: But I gotta tell you.
00:00.160: He's shooting in red and finishing in 4K for DirecTV.
00:00.160: The TV shows I'll talk about are complex multicam, one-hour-long concert show, guitar center sessions, and BKB Unfiltered, which is a 30-minute boxing docu reality that gathers
00:00.160: Free membership model, but like you know, there's some cool stuff happening.
00:00.160: Product lab?
00:00.160: I look forward to meeting people there.
00:00.160: You know, there's a whole other world out there, guys.
00:00.240: Hey, good morning, and welcome to another episode of Funnel Cut Grill.
00:00.240: So, Dave has done a story about a woman who is a photographer in Hawaii, and he has cut it, and he's color-graded it, and he's done everything, and he's used a premium beat soundtrack, and he has.
00:00.240: Actually, you know what?
00:00.240: And then this is the second display on the record computer, and that one allows me to actually keep track of what's going on.
00:00.240: And it drives me mad.
00:00.240: Yeah, it's not what you're hearing as it comes through.
00:00.240: Yeah, man.
00:00.240: you know, just getting that lineup set, I think, is you know, now it's now it's time to like go do it.
00:00.240: Which I still think is bogus, but whatever, you say coincidentally, just down the hall from there was another suite that was set up by FCP Works.
00:00.240: And you had a crazy roster of some of the greatest minds of Final Cut 10 in that room
00:00.240: demoing various things.
00:00.240: Mr.
00:00.240: the people that we work with are editors, so like they don't have a product that they're pitching and promoting.
00:00.240: I had a rough day yesterday with one of our freelancers.
00:00.240: And those all went up, and that was the best thing that happened for us coming out of NAB.
00:00.240: So rumor has it that there will be a live stream.
00:00.240: You know, we like the idea of a five-second delay because, frankly, like we want to make sure everyone comes off looking good if there's like, you know,
00:00.240: it live in the room, there will be no none of that.
00:00.240: There's weird considerations once you start running a business.
00:00.240: You give it a title.
00:00.240: Yeah, it's a video stream out of your freaking iPhone.
00:00.240: But no.
00:00.240: Hmm.
00:00.240: So agreed, and we know that some of the presenters may want to have a little bit tighter reins, as we say.
00:00.240: And right in the middle, there's a big NAB 2015.
00:00.240: to are gonna come and how many you know candy bars to to buy and and if you want it's fcpworks.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: So there's a lot of product stuff.
00:00.240: Fly by that.
00:00.240: But in all honesty, they are going to be presenting on Monday, April 13th.
00:00.240: So now it's just adding in all of the power features that like they've had time to really polish and because if you notice, like there's you know, I'm not going to name names, but like if you look around the market,
00:00.240: A lot of times there's like millions of features coming out, but like how often do those really get polished?
00:00.240: No, I'm totally kidding.
00:00.240: Applications do just, you know, improvement cycles very rarely, I think.
00:00.240: Now many people would argue that Apple gives you no road map, but it's very obvious that they have their own internal one that they follow very closely.
00:00.240: they don't just throw things out there.
00:00.240: Like you can use the dictation thing and talk into it, and I think it'll create titles and stuff.
00:00.240: Yeah, I mean, there's no reason at the end of the day where Final Cut couldn't be like a database where you could talk into it and find it the same way Siri uses Google.
00:00.240: bits of conversation with I mean, the bottom line is like, guys, Apple listens, they pay attention.
00:00.240: At the moment, that's for now.
00:00.240: Finalized.
00:00.240: Gotcha.
00:00.240: The fact that we actually got this to happen.
00:00.240: On this topic.
00:00.240: that some of the Apple people contact him when they're confused about how to do something.
00:00.240: The giant huge movie, the Will Smith movie, that we can actually talk about and not get in trouble.
00:00.240: the crazy Alex Lindsay party up there in Petaluma.
00:00.240: you know, a two hundred million dollar movie.
00:00.240: gonna be doing his own thing at NAB and like, you know, and getting that together would have been like hurting cats, even though it would have been awesome.
00:00.240: That is not dead.
00:00.240: for all of these sessions, but the Blackmagic team is going to come by and talk about how their products integrate in a Final Cut Pro X in or 10, I'm sorry.
00:00.240: Yeah.
00:00.240: Looking over your shoulder, because you know, you were an avid editor, or you were an online editor, and you're looking at all the kids and their new tools, and you're thinking, oh, they're going to steal my work.
00:00.240: When you're setting up your business, that's one thing to be thinking about.
00:00.240: in your den and you're calling yourself, you know, Chris Fenwick Co.
00:00.240: Like sitting with another client.
00:00.240: You know, what's happening on the calendar tomorrow.
00:00.240: Right, cool.
00:00.240: it is absurd that like and there's such a clear cut community of people that are involved.
00:00.240: All right.
00:00.240: Oh, wow.
00:00.240: So pretty much, yeah, I I well, I don't know if actually like I don't know the inner workings of what's happening there.
00:00.240: through XML, and they have a database that all the producers work at.
00:00.240: It should be spelled right.
00:00.240: Cool.
00:00.240: Where we have, you know, the, I don't even know what to call it, but like enter once, use many, you know, like enter your data once and have it propagate throughout your production pipeline.
00:00.240: You know, because I my tendency being a broadcaster is, you know, straight up noon, boom, we're going to go live.
00:00.240: Yeah.
00:00.240: And what's interesting about this actually is if you see that it says and ISO, right?
00:00.240: They are awesome.
00:00.240: 4K desktop monitor.
00:00.240: You know, where some of this stuff can come into play.
00:00.240: 1 p.
00:00.240: That's that.
00:00.240: When he worked in the city before he worked before he was the president of AJA.
00:00.240: Might be a really good thing to look at.
00:00.240: When we first shipped the Shogun, we shipped with a battery that's not as good as this one.
00:00.240: I think you will be fascinated by what they were able to do.
00:00.240: You know, it is, I, I, strangely enough, when I initially met him, I was like, really?
00:00.240: Like you're pretty much, you're not getting out of any of these really for the most part.
00:00.240: Okay, so then Tuesday.
00:00.240: And there, yes, you might be completely wasted from the AJA party, and you may not show up.
00:00.240: So then I'm going to come staggering in Wednesday morning, and it looks like Quantum is back to take another crack at their presentation.
00:00.240: And this one is going to be kind of awesome because he's eating his own dog food here, which is that literally he's going to be spending a couple days lumberjacking our sessions.
00:00.240: Anyway, I don't want to spoil it too much.
00:00.240: And I got to say, you know, I remember back in the early days of Final Cut 10, reading some of Philip's blog posts about, oh, it's all about the metadata.
00:00.240: So basically you can pull in like eight streams just over software, you know, which is which is what Softron does and bring it right in.
00:00.240: Yeah, I mean, their stuff, it's like they have, I think SliceX is the single greatest plug-in ever devised for a nonlinear editor in terms of functionality.
00:00.240: transition except for the fact that he's basically the guy that converted his part of DirecTV.
00:00.240: There's two departments at DirecTV that are now over to Final Cut 10, and Mark was the driving force in the first department that went over.
00:00.240: So that's where the conversion comes from.
00:00.240: Right.
00:00.240: We're getting busy over at FCP Works, and there's a lot of people like we got laughed out of the building initially.
00:00.240: we're covering a lot of bases.
00:00.240: A human element to the whole thing.
00:00.240: You know, I think the other thing about this is like editing does not have to be stuffy.
00:00.240: you know, I'm hoping that this suite, you know, emphasizes that like being a working post-production professional does not have to be a miserable experience.
00:00.240: Although, quite often it is.
00:00.240: And then also FCP works, of course.
00:00.240: Well, we are the world's, as far as we know, first community funded production company, and we are wemakemovies.
00:00.240: So, and I know that, you know, as knowledgeable and enthusiastic and passionate as Sam is about this stuff.
00:00.240: But thank you again for doing this, and I will see you in Las Vegas town.
00:00.240: All right.
00:00.240: Seeing old friends, making new ones, and learning stuff.
00:00.240: ISO, Color Edge, 4K monitor.
00:00.240: They have there's an event every Wednesday.
00:00.240: Thanks for listening.
00:00.320: We did something a little different.
00:00.320: Gosh, it's going to be a busy night.
00:00.320: You don't?
00:00.320: basically challenged me to take the music and make it a little better and make it work better in the piece.
00:00.320: No, no, no, no, no.
00:00.320: Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I'm using well, the literally, there's just this buzzing that it puts on the.
00:00.320: I'm great.
00:00.320: You know, I mean, like, you know, like we were going back and forth, like, how all this is.
00:00.320: If anybody was at NAB 2014, there were two very and you were interested in Final Cut 10, there were two very interesting places to go, neither of which was at the convention center.
00:00.320: was a private invitation only suite at the Wynn Hotel, and it was so freaking cloak and dagger.
00:00.320: This year, SCP Works is doing something quite a bit different.
00:00.320: Well, first and foremost for listeners of the Grill, the entire week is going to be hosted by
00:00.320: Get repurposed, I imagine, to the various outlets, you know.
00:00.320: you just get tired, you know?
00:00.320: You know, plug-in vendors, or it is Apple themselves, or it is, you know,
00:00.320: But um I am I am ahead of Alex Goldner.
00:00.320: it actually does it better.
00:00.320: You know, think about.
00:00.320: Outside of the show floor at that point.
00:00.320: Which is well, actually, there's four.
00:00.320: No.
00:00.320: 6, 10, 1, 7, 10, 1, 8.
00:00.320: When and this was and I actually this is something that I'm going to say as a total nod to our friend Al Moody Mooney.
00:00.320: Here are features that we're just making better.
00:00.320: Some of the functionality, and they put more Final Cuts seven features.
00:00.320: But what I would like it to do is say analyze this sound file and then make me a script where I can click on a word and it will jump to that in the timeline.
00:00.320: Used to be the professional listener.
00:00.320: Why can't we do something like that?
00:00.320: Now I'm noticing though that there's not a keynote or Apple presentation on Wednesday morning.
00:00.320: a live presentation in the FCPX excuse me, FCP Works Suite.
00:00.320: looking to, you know, ledge a couple of things in.
00:00.320: You know, how to make rigging and publishing work for you and things along those lines.
00:00.320: you know, it's and kind of what that experience was.
00:00.320: I'm looking at this title, Chief Workflow Architect.
00:00.320: Hope Alex Lindsay brings his table to Las Vegas.
00:00.320: Now it's like there's so many more tools that are now available.
00:00.320: But there's we have so they're going to be coming by and they're going to be showing how things integrate.
00:00.320: So one of the interesting things that for instance, the entire suite is going to be, I think, powered by a Blackmagic switcher.
00:00.320: they are still settling on exactly what they're going to cover for that.
00:00.320: You know, I'm hoping it's just going to be kind of a geek fest for an hour.
00:00.320: But what they're looking for much more than the functionality of the software that you use, they're looking for this.
00:00.320: And so you want to have that.
00:00.320: You know, cameraman X or animator Y.
00:00.320: Basically, you know, it would be like me and Chris Fenwick running the asylum if it if it was if if
00:00.320: If Sam Messman and Chris Fenwick were to start at Post House, it would be a total disaster.
00:00.320: This is going to be at the Hard Rock Monday night.
00:00.320: Yeah, it's because I don't know what they've actually said.
00:00.320: And so, but, but, and there was speculation on Twitter going, hey, who's actually throwing this thing?
00:00.320: But um now I know.
00:00.320: Now I want to say about the TED people, one of the things that they do, which I think is brilliant and fascinating, is they actually do stuff where they generate their name keys and lower thirds and titles.
00:00.320: Like doing episode 113 on video.
00:00.320: Black Magic or AJA box, but you can use these whether you just need it as a second monitor to put your viewer on, or if you need to flip over to color
00:00.320: Beyond affordable for editors like you and me, if you want to do high quality work.
00:00.320: And it's like fully RUC 709 accurate.
00:00.320: Does that mean we can get tickets to the AJA party?
00:00.320: And it's got a great little user interface.
00:00.320: The Shogun, is it?
00:00.320: And it was a new battery for the Shogun because he said, and the card that came in, it said, Hey, we want to thank you for supporting us so early.
00:00.320: But I've got a buddy about like, what is it, the blade, or what was the other one?
00:00.320: So that'll be 3 p.
00:00.320: And these guys just finished shooting with, I think, the most advanced workflow
00:00.320: Okay.
00:00.320: At the Cosmopolitan, there is a pool table.
00:00.320: As his finishing tool.
00:00.320: So at 11.
00:00.320: fundamentally powers everything you do in a large organization.
00:00.320: And I still use those plugins today, actually, for a lot of the stuff that I need to do.
00:00.320: And I'm and it's so easy and it's their training is great.
00:00.320: Oh, really?
00:00.320: And then our last presentation Wednesday is our friend Mark Bach.
00:00.320: Over a hundred hours and over 5,000 items in the library.
00:00.320: You know, so it's uh th as far and oh, and he also says I might add the shows are shot on red cameras and finished in UHD.
00:00.320: you know, at the highest level.
00:00.320: People are using it, and I don't want to turn down potential work.
00:00.320: And actually, I could not be more excited about where we're heading as a company.
00:00.320: Absolutely excited to be a part of this.
00:00.320: this industry, and it's going to be great to chat with them and do our little shows.
00:00.400: The Final Cut users party.
00:00.400: Listen to this show and not go check out Premium Beat.
00:00.400: excuse me, are you Chris Fenwick?
00:00.400: Where you could get a presentation from Stephen Bays himself of Apple all about Final Cut 10.
00:00.400: You know, live video versions of the grill over three days.
00:00.400: You can set something up.
00:00.400: You know, I will say that I'm still frustrated at people that look at Final Cut 10 and say, but it doesn't do what Premiere does, but it doesn't do what Premier does.
00:00.400: I think that's at least a pot.
00:00.400: Right.
00:00.400: Exactly.
00:00.400: Yeah, exactly.
00:00.400: sign up for these things because I as far as I know, the hall that we are in only seats a few hundred people.
00:00.400: Let's talk about some of the products that we'll hear from.
00:00.400: um Michael Matzdorf.
00:00.400: in prepping for that film, correct?
00:00.400: Uh Monday afternoon, 4 p.
00:00.400: Like, what are the showstoppers?
00:00.400: And I'm just going to diatribe here for just a moment.
00:00.400: A bench, so to speak.
00:00.400: You know, project manage things.
00:00.400: Absolutely focused on the timeline.
00:00.400: Who, at the end of the day, if it was just me doing things, you know, like God knows what the hell would be happening in terms of the bottom line and how some of these things happen.
00:00.400: Then it should appear every place it appears, whether it's on this website or on his lower third or in the title credits or in the credit roll at the end or in every email or every call sheet.
00:00.400: Tell me about the Quantum 4K storage solution.
00:00.400: He just released, I think very recently, his color finale plug-in.
00:00.400: Wednesday and Thursday of this week, I'm going to be doing a live show for one of my clients.
00:00.400: He was like, I sensed that he was struggling because he was trying to vocally describe things that are inherently very visual.
00:00.400: I'm looking at the two seven.
00:00.400: Ended up being the DIT slash, you know, first assistant on this show, all in one.
00:00.400: Tuesday night, 11:59 p.
00:00.400: Plug-in tutorials for him based on the FX Factory plugins way back when, and he is just like the best guy
00:00.400: You know, I mean, Nicholas Bond is is uh it's funny actually.
00:00.400: And then at 12.
00:00.400: Philip has been to the future and come back in a time machine with a Terminator, and he's just kind of laying low until he takes over the universe.
00:00.400: And then we also have now what is Softron?
00:00.400: You are going to really want to be at this session.
00:00.400: Where freelancers are gonna they're gonna like the Meerkat, mind you, they're gonna be poking their head up and saying, Hey, maybe I need to take this app a little bit more serious because
00:00.400: My giddy schoolgirl excitement because I you know, you have an amazing lineup of people, and these are literally some of the greatest minds in
00:00.400: That's when Sam really gets excited.
00:00.480: Always premium beat my first my first go-to source of music.
00:00.480: And no, I got them.
00:00.480: Chris Fenwick.
00:00.480: Yeah, absolutely.
00:00.480: And you launch it and you tell it what your Twitter handle is and your password.
00:00.480: app if you haven't downloaded it or just launches it if you have.
00:00.480: Anyway, so can we talk a little bit about the lineup?
00:00.480: And I was saying that, you know, I don't imagine that we're going to get, we're not going to see anything as radical.
00:00.480: But he opened it up.
00:00.480: It's it there is so much engineering that goes into that show.
00:00.480: Essentially, all the amazing reasons why professional editors should be using Final Cut 10.
00:00.480: Are you going to answer?
00:00.480: A official Final Cut 10 community party.
00:00.480: So it's Isaac Waiten, and we're still waiting to see how many people from his team he can bring.
00:00.480: The reason I do my podcast, for instance, is so I can have an excuse to talk to people I wanted to talk with anyway and get some information.
00:00.480: installations with lots of users in a large shared storage environment.
00:00.480: And I will use that as my primary desktop, which is like a thirty inch 4K display that's way nicer than the sharp.
00:00.480: Yeah.
00:00.480: And it's going to be great.
00:00.560: Is going to be to stream these things.
00:00.560: I'm stoked to be working for you guys at FCP Works.
00:00.560: Everyone that likes, or well, not everyone, but like just a huge cross-section of the community, whether it's you know, editors and case studies or it's
00:00.560: This is episode 114.
00:00.560: And you you see people who are not mired down by the popular convention and the
00:00.560: It broadcasts a signal, it starts a chat room, it shows me icons of all of the people that are logged on watching.
00:00.560: Then it tweets to my Twitter account.
00:00.560: And there are a bunch of different sessions.
00:00.560: And, you know, it was it was quite an experience.
00:00.560: With tools that are not even as good as they are now.
00:00.560: That high-end clientele looks for is not, you know, can you do a dissolve?
00:00.560: When I went out there and we worked together and transitioned over, and they are cutting TED Talks and Final Cut 10, this is happening, and they're going to talk about their process.
00:00.560: So like and when I say cheap, it's more expensive than a cinema display.
00:00.560: Onset in the world, in my opinion.
00:00.560: 1159 because 1159 p.
00:00.560: Last year.
00:00.560: Thanks, buddy.
00:00.640: And so you give it a name.
00:00.640: And you'll get there.
00:00.640: But I was saying I really think that there is I don't understand the technical limitations.
00:00.640: 90% of the way until a couple people go and formally check their calendars and realize they're double booked.
00:00.640: Or premiere.
00:00.640: Where you go out and you're like, hey, this thing is really awesome and it works, guys.
00:00.640: So that's good.
00:00.640: Back on episode 82 of The Grill, we had Michael Glass talking about Ted.
00:00.640: So you have the flexibility of being in the app without a A B out or without SDI.
00:00.640: Okay, so at any rate, let's not do the whole presentation.
00:00.640: What does this thing cost?
00:00.640: At a certain point, it's like, what is it, six degrees of separation?
00:00.640: Because it's a much better battery.
00:00.640: And Brian Zwiener, who I'm trying to get on your show, so hopefully he'll be your next guest.
00:00.640: And, you know, so he is so far ahead of the rest of us.
00:00.640: And my podcast lives over there, and I'll need to get you back on there, probably post NAB to recap some of this stuff.
00:00.720: And then the other thing is, we're and correct me if I'm wrong, but we're still recording all these sessions, correct?
00:00.720: At the Renaissance Hotel immediately adjacent to the convention center.
00:00.720: Well, I keep hearing the name.
00:00.720: Yes, it is.
00:00.720: Well, I mean, I think you you know, my guess, based on T-Leagues, I don't have any direct knowledge, but like my guess is that like at this point, they probably got the foundation for this app largely in place, right?
00:00.720: Presentation from Apple.
00:00.720: Monday, first thing in the afternoon, rather, Monday afternoon.
00:00.720: His guidebook, Final Cut Pro X, Pro Workflow, available on the App Store.
00:00.720: And we talked about doing a panel, but the other thing is like having a panel with everyone and not having the table and not doing it.
00:00.720: m.
00:00.720: Okay, then we're gonna have oh cool, Core Melt.
00:00.720: So they are mentioned heavily there.
00:00.800: I can't remember now.
00:00.800: I don't think we're going to get anything as radical as what the transition from 10.
00:00.800: Stephen is sitting on a bus on his way to Cupertino, going, Fenwick, shut up.
00:00.800: Or please stop telling people what we're going to do at the suite.
00:00.800: When you look at all of the little kernels of technology that are out there and you start virtually connecting the dots, you go, gee, why can't we
00:00.800: The other half of the Ripple team, Steve Martin.
00:00.800: Look for somebody in your production community who is a gifted organizer, because that might be the person that you want to partner with, much more so than
00:00.800: Or portions of all of them.
00:00.800: So that's going to be around somewhere around noonish on Tuesday.
00:00.800: The the key thing about Izo monitors is that they work as desktop monitors with accurate color.
00:00.800: when you get when you let Sam talk about the indie film world and how important that is and just how broken the Hollywood system is.
00:00.880: And, you know, the bottom line is, we're not going to post anything that we think is a mistake.
00:00.880: Now, if anybody's listening to this on the podcast, this isn't live now, of course, because it's you know, it's it's a thing we have called recording.
00:00.880: So and then and then on your iPhone, it's basically a two-camera show because you can toggle back and forth between the front camera and the rear camera.
00:00.880: You know, one of the discussions, this is a little bit off topic, but one of the discussions that Alex Golner and I had off again, off the record on s uh not off the record, but it wasn't part of an actual show.
00:00.880: I still think there's something to this Final Cut 13 theory that I have.
00:00.880: Yes.
00:00.880: And the only reason I mention it is you can record 4K ProRes into that as well.
00:00.880: Well, he wrote this book, you know.
00:00.880: January last year.
00:00.880: There is some stuff happening in the lab that you know.
00:00.960: What do you use?
00:00.960: I gotta say, you know, I'm sitting here trying to be all professional.
00:00.960: I mean, I think I'm it is finally you know how it's like you start talking about something and then you're like, wait a minute, how is this all going to work?
00:00.960: No.
00:00.960: It's pretty, it's pretty amazing.
00:00.960: I guess my issue is that a lot of these things tend to happen in a scattershot manner without a clear roadmap, right?
00:00.960: We're gonna figure that out.
00:00.960: is to have that support staff and that support that allows us to kind of tunnel in and become that guy who's like
00:00.960: But it would be a lot of fun for the six months that it was open.
00:00.960: Tuesday.
00:00.960: And then we have the AJA Cyan with Nick Rashby.
00:00.960: ShotNotes X, Sync and Link, and 6K dragon footage for an indie feature.
00:00.960: Yes, you can probably speak on that as much as I do.
00:01.040: With him at the DCC hospitality suite.
00:01.040: I'm going to show the audience here.
00:01.040: Trainers.
00:01.040: In doing this show, it's really thrilling to be able to talk to, and I don't use the term lightly, but literally some of the greatest minds in this community.
00:01.040: Premiere did a whole version that was I mean, they had a couple new features, but they were very vocal.
00:01.040: And wondering why anyone bothers with it versus After Effects, you are getting literally the authority
00:01.040: So you just had Denver on, and now you're going to be doing a live version of it.
00:01.120: I'm going to be doing live Meerkat streams from our suite as often as you guys will let me.
00:01.120: Apple Product Marketing will be giving an update on Final Cut Pro X dash.
00:01.120: So Steve Martin is going to be doing the four o'clock presentation on Monday.
00:01.120: So we will come staggering in Tuesday morning after that for another crack at the keynote, which, you know, hey, take two.
00:01.120: Yes, and there's so many good plugins that they have available.
00:01.200: A worthwhile event.
00:01.200: Well, less than that.
00:01.200: And let's not overlook the fact that you will be a part of that also.
00:01.200: I agree.
00:01.280: And not only are we going to be doing this, although we're not in the convention center, we're immediately adjacent.
00:01.280: I mean, this is they do events all over the place.
00:01.280: And I will say, I have seen the roadmap.
00:01.280: to a feature set, but for the most part, they know why and how those features should integrate with the rest of the application
00:01.280: We have an amazing support staff.
00:01.280: So hey guys, just a note here, my presentation is going to be more about Final Cut 10 workflow on a broadcast channel from making promos to full TV shows.
00:01.360: But we're going to record that the week of NEB.
00:01.360: So I'm actually broadcasting on Meerkat right now.
00:01.360: Okay.
00:01.360: Is that even something we can talk about?
00:01.360: Their presentation will likely be in the morning, and we will post it as soon as we have official details.
00:01.360: It is literally everyone is too damn busy to do it.
00:01.360: So I will say this like emphatically, like I like, it's not even like, you know, you know how you go on and on about premium beat, et cetera.
00:01.360: 709 accurate, and it's going to be like ninety seven percent, I think, DCI P three, something along those lines.
00:01.360: 59, we're going to have just a real casual meetup.
00:01.360: We'll be back next time with another episode of The Grill.
00:01.440: Boom!
00:01.440: Yeah, I'm not going to say that.
00:01.440: And like, he's he, his motion tutorials are probably the greatest tutorials I've ever seen anyone do on a piece of software ever.
00:01.440: But just this last week at our office here, we came up with another delineation of what a professional working environment is.
00:01.440: they forego that.
00:01.440: And, you know, it's like, there's a lot of, there's a million people using this thing, you know, like
00:01.440: That'll be Monday night.
00:01.440: So it is a ripple training, and basically, Steve and I are teaming up to make sure that there is some place for us to all go and hang out and have a beer.
00:01.440: Cool.
00:01.440: Yeah.
00:01.440: what you'd see in a broadcast truck.
00:01.520: I use two computers.
00:01.520: I mean, there's for us specifically, there's so many different things happening in the Final Cut community.
00:01.520: And so then you'll register.
00:01.520: The Atomis Shogun?
00:01.520: bottom line, it's shared storage.
00:01.520: So you can get a preview of some of that too.
00:01.600: Yes, Sam has been on the show about one hundred and seventeen times, six.
00:01.600: Wow.
00:01.600: It was about two versions ago.
00:01.600: So that is likely around the time that that will happen.
00:01.600: There's a little link to the Izo color.
00:01.600: And I used to show up at his desk with McDonald's McFlurries and just hand them to him.
00:01.600: And this is a whole other conversation.
00:01.600: And I think NAB is going to be a lot of fun.
00:01.680: So here I'm going to step, I'm going to step back.
00:01.680: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01.680: I agree.
00:01.680: Like a post company?
00:01.680: It's basically a broadcast accurate cinema display.
00:01.680: And so they so on my podcast, if you go and you listen to the Dragon Roganovich episode, this is like what he did after that, which is he went, he just went and shot a feature film.
00:01.760: And you basically you had a big giant doughnut and you if you went around, you could talk to Michael Garber and you could talk to Philip Hodgetz and you were showing all manners of hardware and software solutions for Final Content.
00:01.760: And so, so we're recording it for posterity, but are we also live streaming it?
00:01.760: They they know what they need to do probably much better than we know what they need to do, even though we like to tell them what they need to do.
00:01.760: I'm going to follow you on that.
00:01.760: And he's actually so Dragon is actually a world famous DJ, Dirty South.
00:01.840: Well, so the best thing that came out of last year was that Scott Simmons came by and did some videos on what we were doing at Pro Video Coalition.
00:01.840: He goes, here's the roadmap.
00:01.840: No, no, it doesn't do that.
00:01.840: The irony of it is that I would not recommend this workflow in the form that it was done.
00:01.840: All right.
00:01.840: And I really think that and you and I have sort of talked about this in the past, that in my opinion, twenty fifteen is the year
00:01.840: Yeah, well, you know, we're doing our best.
00:01.920: Anyway, we're going to figure that out and it's going to be fun.
00:01.920: And if you pull your head out of your you know, you might be able to see that.
00:01.920: It might not have been initially because we've been doing all kinds of things to it.
00:01.920: Siri voice recognition can't be in my Final Cut 10.
00:01.920: So anyway, I think that that for me, when you kind of, and again, now we are reading tea leaves.
00:01.920: I mean, basically, you know, Chris, you should be using these sessions as what I'm actually really hoping you do is do a show for each one.
00:01.920: It's like, wait, are we doing this at noon or not?
00:01.920: Anyway, so that's that's kind of cool.
00:01.920: m.
00:02.000: I record in Adobe Brodition.
00:02.000: Yeah.
00:02.000: No, it's an iPhone app, dude.
00:02.000: That's at least a possibility.
00:02.000: So that's a whole nother facet of professionalism that I think a lot of people
00:02.000: Well we we've actually so there's a bunch of people.
00:02.000: Do you want to talk about premium beef for a little bit?
00:02.000: They were there, but they are going to be back and things have changed.
00:02.080: On Tuesday night, Dave Doug Dale and I are going to sit down and we are going to do, he calls it NAB, hashtag NAB Music Edit.
00:02.080: I went through that rabbit hole.
00:02.080: Rock and roll!
00:02.080: Now I'm noticing right now on the calendar, and basically you've informed me that this calendar is definitely a work in progress.
00:02.080: You know, they talk about that in sports.
00:02.080: He's a lot more than just, you know, a guy who takes calls and organizes who's going to be sitting in what room on what day.
00:02.080: So my preferred setup is I will use their 4K desktop monitor, which retails for about $1,700 to $2,000
00:02.080: So you guys, it's going to be a very meta moment for you.
00:02.080: Hey, once again, Sam, thanks for joining me on the show here.
00:02.080: Yeah, I want to, I want to come down for that sometime.
00:02.160: I think that'd be cool.
00:02.160: Tuesday.
00:02.160: I mean, the bottom line is like the debate is over.
00:02.240: And I'm like, yes.
00:02.240: The last time they gave a public presentation was when they announced Final Cut 10, right?
00:02.240: You know, and like, what are the things in there that, like, really need to get paid attention to?
00:02.240: Hates my show.
00:02.240: , right?
00:02.320: And you get tired of saying the same damn thing to a new person over the course of three days.
00:02.320: I have no idea what it is.
00:02.320: To be honest with you, I have absolutely no idea what we're going to do.
00:02.320: You know, I mean, I think 1012.
00:02.320: I mean, at the end of the day, I think it's safe to say he's written the book which he actually has on how to manage uh a high end project with with Final Cut 10.
00:02.320: m.
00:02.320: Are you going to be there?
00:02.320: And so, one of the things that they're doing at TED is they're using this really amazing kind of back-end system.
00:02.320: Okay, so now we finished that.
00:02.320: But they are a real world case study.
00:02.320: And I thank, I want to thank you ahead of time for including me.
00:02.320: Definitely come by.
00:02.400: That's a big deal, right?
00:02.400: However, what I would maybe recommend doing, here's a hint for the real listeners out there, is you probably want to sign up for the FCP Works keynote sessions.
00:02.400: So you should definitely go check out his podcast.
00:02.480: And I've got to tell you, I actually, just going through the events, I learned stuff.
00:02.480: Only about 14 of them or so are you.
00:02.480: So I call it Recording FCPX Grill Live.
00:02.480: Right.
00:02.480: So you sound schizophrenic, basically.
00:02.480: If I'm at a client's place and I need that one thing, I can log in and get my plug-in that I've paid for.
00:02.480: 30, one of the one of literally the great mines of Final Khaten, where we have Philip Hodgetts talking about Lumberjack.
00:02.480: I'm stoked.
00:02.560: What did you just say?
00:02.560: Never mind.
00:02.560: And I think that I would recommend that, you know, if you're like the lone wolf editor.
00:02.560: The Super Meet.
00:02.560: Just count on if Philip Hodgins is doing something, it's probably going to blow your mind a little bit.
00:02.560: So, like, some people look at me like I know something about metadata.
00:02.640: They're going to be there Monday, Tuesday, and allegedly Wednesday morning.
00:02.640: This this actually looks really fun.
00:02.640: Yeah.
00:02.720: So I'm doing a live Meerkat feed right now, which we're going to be doing a lot more of in Vegas.
00:02.720: So, um, you know, you gotta make sure your levels are good for sure
00:02.720: m.
00:02.720: It's probably going to be a similar presentation.
00:02.800: But certainly after the fact, we're going to have recordings posted and available.
00:02.800: You know, I had this discussion Sunday afternoon with Alex.
00:02.800: So for those of you who were looking to get like kind of a firsthand experience from a guy who was in the trenches, that will be happening.
00:02.800: Yeah.
00:02.800: That's Monday night at the Hard Rock, and Steve Martin is the larger
00:02.800: About well, it depends.
00:02.800: That's the difference.
00:02.800: I think they were having some problems updating the firmware.
00:02.800: And then so tell me about 4 p.
00:02.800: Yeah, I don't know.
00:02.880: And as I leaned forward to get a glimpse of it, he closed the window.
00:02.880: Is that what we settled on?
00:02.880: Oh, I definitely bring that.
00:02.880: So just going through the schedule and learning stuff.
00:02.960: Hey, Chris Fenwick is broadcasting live.
00:02.960: I'm like, yeah, that's kind of an understatement.
00:02.960: And to even call them a support staff is ridiculous because, you know, like Paul, my boss, he can sit down in my timelines and he can make fixes if I happen to be
00:02.960: You know, because I you know, I do a lot of corporate broadcasting.
00:02.960: Because we weren't sure if midnight was 12 a.
00:02.960: Yeah, I was just going to say, I think you guys do stuff weekly, right?
00:03.040: So, yeah, I mean, I think certainly for some of these, this will be a no-brainer.
00:03.040: Cool.
00:03.040: Yeah.
00:03.120: I just got finished, literally just got finished talking with Sam Mestman.
00:03.120: So when you think about it, like wouldn't it just make sense to have something that you can keep with you outside of the show floor?
00:03.120: And then what you have is you have this thing called choose your session schedule.
00:03.120: Um so the the bottom line is like um they
00:03.120: Rock star.
00:03.120: Right there.
00:03.120: And I was there basically, I was there at the very beginning, then I was in New Orleans, and then I was there to transition them to post and ten point one
00:03.120: So, like, kind of scaring me there.
00:03.120: So basically, at the end of the day, if you're going to do enterprise quality
00:03.120: You know, it's like bar none, hands down.
00:03.200: But I we may want to add in a couple of bumpers and a couple of things.
00:03.200: There's a lot of workflow stuff.
00:03.200: And then the next event will be the TED.
00:03.200: Hey, you want to hear a great little aside?
00:03.200: It's amazing how much lighter your broadcast setup can be if you set it up using certain tools.
00:03.280: Now, I got to tell you, I keep wanting to click where it says NAB 2015, and it's not a button.
00:03.280: Well, I mean, I mean, quite honestly, you know, like I can speak from personal experience with that.
00:03.280: And so this is a real world case study, the same way that Focus is a real world case study.
00:03.280: And like for a certain clientele, it is the most important thing for them to see.
00:03.280: And I think it's going to be really informative for the community and especially the people outside of the community to really see like, oh my God, look at all the stuff you can do in this ecosystem.
00:03.360: You are you are just barely so um
00:03.360: And so, anyway, that's that's just something that's been kind of, it's been sort of weighing heavy on me because I know that in my situation where I work.
00:03.360: So it's like.
00:03.440: Yep, I understand.
00:03.440: So Steve Martin is going to come by, and basically, we're giving Steve free reign.
00:03.440: You know, it's like we got our five guys on the court, but then our bench is really strong, too.
00:03.440: That's Tuesday afternoon.
00:03.440: I don't want to say think because people, hey, I showed up at noon and you guys weren't there.
00:03.440: I mean, even just the stuff about that ISO, was it ISO?
00:03.520: Oh, it's a smart.
00:03.520: Okay, interesting.
00:03.520: And the crow flies early in the morning.
00:03.520: What if we just got everyone to come in and give us an hour?
00:03.520: Now, I will also say this is awesome for listeners here because you're going to get a jump on being able to go and
00:03.520: We were talking about professional editors.
00:03.520: They don't think about that because as technicians, we get so wrapped up in our keyframes and frames and seconds on the time line that we forget about things like
00:03.520: Bemini.
00:03.520: Oh, wow.
00:03.520: And is he using Final Head 10?
00:03.520: No, I'm just going to.
00:03.520: And a combination of Google Docs and the second AC, and it's it's pretty awesome.
00:03.520: And then there's another thing, and we're going to announce this on this week's DCC, Digital Cinema Cafe.
00:03.520: I'm so glad we get we were able to coordinate and make this happen.
00:03.600: So we're skipping 11 and 12.
00:03.600: But again, there's no reason why it couldn't do it.
00:03.600: I mean, there are things I know, but they're not like features I know.
00:03.600: Stay tuned for.
00:03.600: So that'll be a great episode with Denver showing off the video.
00:03.600: And it's a nice combination.
00:03.600: Right.
00:03.600: We're going to be doing Meerkat streams in addition to all the other stuff we're doing.
00:03.680: Yeah.
00:03.680: Well, why don't we just go in order?
00:03.680: It's like you can use this as a broadcast monitor in addition to a secondary display/slash, you know, and also they have a fantastic
00:03.680: And for the record on that camera, it's a 4K ProRes camera.
00:03.760: You've got to listen to the whole episode to hear about all about that.
00:03.760: Yeah, I've got, well, you know, I learned from the best, Chris.
00:03.760: So that is happening.
00:03.760: So there's the Apple product marketing presentation.
00:03.760: I thought we had decided on 10.
00:03.760: Yeah, that's easy to do with Steve.
00:03.760: Is that like a foregone conclusion?
00:03.760: But that'll be great to chat with him.
00:03.840: Okay, so I'm gonna here's what I want to do just for fun.
00:03.840: Well, this seems like something Noah probably needs to know about.
00:03.840: Got it.
00:03.840: Like, everyone's connected.
00:03.920: But what do I, you know, what do I know?
00:03.920: So, if you've been in this business for a long time and you're looking at new and upcoming tools and you're kind of
00:03.920: Okay.
00:03.920: I d I don't even think I noticed this.
00:03.920: And the bottom line is like it is a radically different setup than what most people typically encounter.
00:03.920: Anyway, we'll see it all down the road.
00:04.000: Look at me, I'm professional.
00:04.000: It's literally just it's almost like going to the D Hall, if you will.
00:04.000: or whatever, can you support people when you're with another client?
00:04.000: I don't know that.
00:04.000: Wow.
00:04.080: And I'm actually, you know, really looking forward.
00:04.080: Right, gotcha.
00:04.080: Yeah.
00:04.080: This, you know, this is interesting.
00:04.080: Now, um, yeah, and you know, we just got the um
00:04.080: How is this show then?
00:04.080: The pizza is great.
00:04.160: Yeah, let's do it, man.
00:04.160: Okay, so let's go back.
00:04.160: You know, I think what a lot of times we miss out in this business
00:04.160: I don't, I don't, yeah.
00:04.240: So officially on the website, this is what I can read.
00:04.240: And the guy is a master organizer, and he's going to talk about the workflow that they did on
00:04.240: Well, we actually we talked about it.
00:04.240: But if you look around at some of the other like broadcast quality monitors, these are
00:04.320: The question is when that testing happens, how that live stream performs.
00:04.320: 0 to 10.
00:04.320: But for the most part, you know, we've got the sessions largely in place and with plenty of lead time.
00:04.320: Considerably less than that.
00:04.320: But if you've been curious what a Blackmagic editing suite running Final Cut Pro 10 looks like, this is probably going to be the session for you.
00:04.320: You know, how are you available for your clients?
00:04.320: Because he went and, I think, started his own company.
00:04.320: Now, just out of curiosity, did like, say, for example, Peter Wiggins used this when he did the France?
00:04.320: I'm looking forward to this much more so than I think any other NAB.
00:04.400: Literally, it's the call recorder thing as a second piece of crunchiness after the recording's over.
00:04.400: Hey, so have you heard of this new app called Meerkat?
00:04.400: That's ridiculous.
00:04.400: What is it?
00:04.400: They really think about what they want to do and they decide on the features that are going to be added for a given release.
00:04.400: That's hard.
00:04.400: This is a company I've never even heard.
00:04.400: m.
00:04.400: That sounds fun.
00:04.480: They have been fantastic supporting what we've been doing here for the last year.
00:04.480: So, anyway, we're going to be doing that.
00:04.480: Wait, this is going to be a horrible radio show.
00:04.480: So why don't you tell us a little bit about what you're doing this year?
00:04.480: But the bottom line is it's going to be, you know, the general idea is we ran into this situation last year where at a certain point
00:04.480: You can do dictation.
00:04.480: And next to the pool table is a pizza parlor.
00:04.560: I think it was when the cloud first came out, or maybe not the cloud, but CS6.
00:04.560: Not at the resolution that I could actually read it.
00:04.560: It's almost like you're saying, Yep, we did a big movie, and no, don't do that in Final Katen.
00:04.560: Or are you going to have to say, Oh, yeah, sorry, dude, I'm in class.
00:04.560: Exactly, until we ran out of runway money.
00:04.640: How are you?
00:04.640: I know where having and Alex is
00:04.640: So then we're going to have later Monday afternoon, we're going to have Black Magic is going to visit, and they're going to have some stuff to show us.
00:04.640: So it's it's a lot of Final Cut 10 community people who got together and was like, you know what, there should be a goddamn party for us Like, okay.
00:04.640: I just need to know.
00:04.640: I mean, at the end of the day, like we focus heavily on enterprise and facility.
00:04.640: So then we have our good friends from FX Factory.
00:04.640: If you guys know who Mark is, he is, you know, I think one of the smartest editors.
00:04.720: No, I'm kidding.
00:04.720: Yeah, I mean, he is and if you like, if you have questions about
00:04.720: That's all you need to hear.
00:04.720: I'm just saying.
00:04.720: I'm going to warn you, there is other stuff going on Tuesday night.
00:04.720: Right.
00:04.720: And that is something that we talked with Mark back on episode 40 of The Grill.
00:04.720: Which I think gets lost, to be honest, a lot of times in some of these.
00:04.800: You click on it, boom, it takes you to the Meerkat
00:04.800: So if you guys have been curious about motion.
00:04.800: Oh, wait, what?
00:04.800: And what and which party is that?
00:04.800: Quantum is the name in shared storage.
00:04.800: Like, you know, because I think initially you have to do so many different things.
00:04.800: So Softron is broadcast ingest in Final Cut 10.
00:04.880: And we're going to call them Final Cut Grill 120, Final Cut Grill 121.
00:04.880: And honestly, it's a nice break from the madness that is that show floor.
00:04.880: 1 is until we get through 10.
00:04.880: Okay.
00:04.880: Yeah, now I'm noticing they do have a 27-inch because that's the size I like.
00:04.880: m.
00:04.880: So I, you know, I don't think I'm slotted to be a part of that, but I'm going to.
00:04.880: Like, I love those guys, and I love the other guys that are going to have a session too.
00:04.880: The um I go way back like the I've done like two sets of tutorials ever.
00:04.880: Anyway, so Sam, thanks a lot.
00:04.960: So if you go to Twitter and you look for my.
00:04.960: A production product presentation, talk, and workflow presentations.
00:04.960: To be honest, I don't know what they're going to show.
00:04.960: We are thrilled to have them come and be a part of the suite.
00:04.960: And I don't know, maybe I'm wrong because Final Cut 4.
00:04.960: I don't want to try and do that yet.
00:04.960: Now I'm going to break some news that I think Ripple Training was looking forward to breaking, but sorry, Steve and Mark.
00:04.960: And it is, it is the management of that ecosystem that is that makes it far better than I think what a lot of the other plugin makers do.
00:04.960: He really is.
00:05.040: I'm a professional podcaster.
00:05.040: Now you can watch it on on a on a desktop machine.
00:05.040: We're just going right.
00:05.040: Okay, so this is, you know, now I got an invite for this.
00:05.040: Because it didn't actually say in the invite.
00:05.040: Yeah, so that's on isoglobal.
00:05.040: You like it?
00:05.040: They have beer there.
00:05.120: You are live.
00:05.120: You know, there's been a lot of talk about Final Cut 10s, not for pros, and we've kind of put all that to rest.
00:05.120: Well, I got an invitation just yesterday.
00:05.120: I don't know.
00:05.120: And I always have to kind of start, you know, in the beginning, I say, okay, what time are we going live?
00:05.120: So I think anywhere from two thousand to twenty five hundred bucks.
00:05.120: The Samurai, or I don't know.
00:05.120: m.
00:05.120: You got to come down to LA in general because I got to show you what's going on in the lab, man.
00:05.120: And always great stuff to learn.
00:05.200: So basically, you're going to get about 18
00:05.200: And so there's three kinds of presentations.
00:05.200: I learned stuff every single day doing this show.
00:05.200: He's been on the show as well.
00:05.280: Well, yeah, I use a whole bunch of aftermarket plugins also.
00:05.280: Okay, so I'm going to go to the website.
00:05.280: Denver, thank you for fulfilling my literally biggest need in the application.
00:05.280: We are now shipping this with all the new units, and we want you to have one too.
00:05.280: or p.
00:05.280: And if you've been curious and actually, there's a lot more people looking at broadcasts now using Final Cut 10.
00:05.360: But anyway, so you'll be there and you because you were involved with Mike.
00:05.360: Oh, by the way, Alex Golner just tweeted on the Meerkat screen.
00:05.360: You know, and the truth is, because I come from a colors background.
00:05.440: So I have one computer just for Skyping.
00:05.440: So yeah, we're going to have a continuous roster, like way more content than you'd get out of a typical trade show booth.
00:05.440: Generally, anytime Apple gives any sort of presentation, it is
00:05.440: You actually want me to do this?
00:05.440: Well, the thing I love about FX Factory is the whole store and the ecosystem and the fact that once I log in
00:05.440: Hey, likewise, man.
00:05.520: And I can't wait.
00:05.520: And they improved some of the scrubbing, and they improved
00:05.520: Oh, and actually, before we jump to Tuesday, though, one real quick thing.
00:05.600: So for us, the idea was, well, what if we got everyone to give us an hour?
00:05.600: Um FCPX for power users
00:05.600: And it's like there should be a place for us to go hang out and meet one another.
00:05.600: But Isaac is basically the lead editor over there who
00:05.600: Um hey, so uh off the record, or not off the record, but uh as an aside, are we going to run this place like a like a broadcast facility?
00:05.680: Like, what are the clear, you know,
00:05.680: He's not a part of this bit.
00:05.680: I haven't caught up with him.
00:05.680: So that's good to know.
00:05.680: It's you know what?
00:05.680: So the I and the the shame is I don't have an audio feed into my phone, so they're only hearing my half of the conversation.
00:05.680: m.
00:05.760: Really?
00:05.760: Hold on, Sam.
00:05.760: You know, basically, you have the world's leading authority on this topic.
00:05.760: Denver Riddle from Color Grading Central.
00:05.760: So, anyway, I'm totally looking forward to hanging out with Nick for an hour.
00:05.760: Okay, so this is the one I'm most looking forward to.
00:05.760: Yeah, basically.
00:05.760: I think it almost gets in his own way sometimes.
00:05.760: But and I know that really your biggest passion in this business is the indie world.
00:05.760: I don't talk about it often on this side of the fence, but like
00:05.840: Now, I also want to say that at NAB, I believe on Tuesday night
00:05.840: And when you think about that, because and the reason for that is because what we were doing lived
00:05.840: And then you hit stream.
00:05.840: So, and then there's a registration thing, and that's just so you guys know how many people.
00:05.840: Yay!
00:05.840: So we mentioned the Final Cut Pro.
00:05.840: I'm doing some stuff.
00:05.840: Well, you know, it's it we all it's funny, like
00:05.840: We're going to find our way in there one way or the other, Chris.
00:05.840: So Joseph Nilo, who's the head of training at FX Factory, he's going to be the 11 o'clock
00:05.840: So anyway, we're looking forward to that.
00:05.920: com slash nab twenty fifteen
00:05.920: And I know that, like, right now.
00:05.920: So we're starting off at the moment, the first up after whatever we're doing that morning.
00:05.920: He'll be talking a little bit about that, some of the stuff that's in there.
00:05.920: And this is something that we're sort of striving for at our office
00:05.920: So do you know much about ISO monitors, Chris?
00:05.920: So, Paul, my boss, he bought that Shogun like day one, hour one, whatever.
00:05.920: So I just recently started using Core Melt and all of their Mocha tracking stuff.
00:06.000: Totally ridiculous.
00:06.000: Then there's going to be a great presentation about
00:06.000: Oh, really?
00:06.000: You know, before we went live, when we were coordinating by phone, we had a brief discussion.
00:06.000: That was probably user error yesterday.
00:06.000: Hey, Doug, Dave, Doug Dale is listening on listening in on the Miracle.
00:06.000: And I guess his main note was that it's not so much about Final Cut 7 to Final Cut 10.
00:06.000: It does not have to be tech spec after like codec spec.
00:06.000: And if you're in the LA area, you should look up We Make Movies because
00:06.080: We skipped 8 and 9.
00:06.080: And my guess is that there will probably be a virtual user group happening shortly thereafter.
00:06.080: Right.
00:06.080: And no, I think actually it is just dumb luck.
00:06.080: on the third or fourth floor, we weren't sure what it is, of the casino.
00:06.080: But Alex McLean and I are going to be doing that at midnight because crazy things happen in the middle of the night at NAB.
00:06.080: There you go.
00:06.160: And then and then they would um and then they would escort you up to the, I don't know, one hundred and seventeenth floor or whatever of the win.
00:06.160: Six.
00:06.160: Okay, that's one thing, maybe.
00:06.160: And there still may be one or two additional sessions that we may add.
00:06.160: And there's a number of different ways.
00:06.160: This, I could not, you know, of course, I'm a little biased because, you know, I told them to do this, but they actually did it and it worked.
00:06.160: Yeah.
00:06.160: I'm totally excited about NEB.
00:06.240: So this is to get into this suite is a is a big deal.
00:06.320: Let's talk about some of the other things.
00:06.320: So Michael was the assistant editor on this film.
00:06.320: It is 10.
00:06.320: Yeah, there would be slides.
00:06.320: They're all some sort of Japanese character.
00:06.320: There's a pool table.
00:06.320: Cool.
00:06.400: And we basically went through the FCP Works scheduled events for NAB twenty fifteen.
00:06.400: Yeah.
00:06.400: And he's like, What is this?
00:06.400: I think we're going to have a blast.
00:06.480: So let's go now to the chat with Sam Messman from FCP Works and we're going to go through the schedule of what is coming up at NEB 2015.
00:06.480: All right, how are you doing, man?
00:06.480: Let's back up a little bit here.
00:06.480: You know, Nick Rashby sold me my Media 100 like a thousand years ago.
00:06.480: It's got an amazing display.
00:06.560: Yeah.
00:06.560: And then what you do is you say,
00:06.560: I totally went on a giant sidetrack there.
00:06.560: And one of the things that was funny because when in the audio interview with Denver
00:06.560: And he uses a combination of shot notes.
00:06.560: Very cool.
00:06.560: So he's closing the show and is doing stuff.
00:06.640: But I am giddy like a schoolgirl about NAB and all the stuff that is coming up.
00:06.640: Like some of these people are vendors, so we want to make sure that they're taken care of.
00:06.640: You know, I mean, it was a one-of-a-kind experience where, you know
00:06.640: Can you motion track something?
00:06.640: But when you see Isaac, you should ask him about that.
00:06.640: You know, like there's no market that you can't work and use this application in.
00:06.720: More details to come.
00:06.720: Final Cuts 7 features.
00:06.720: And then there'll probably be some bugs and whatever it is that's part of the game when you introduce an entire world.
00:06.720: Cool.
00:06.720: And his plug-in, just for the record, I've been waiting for curbs.
00:06.720: We are there every single week at the Asylum Theater in Santa Monica.
00:06.800: So here is my record computer, not my record computer, but my Skyper.
00:06.880: You will see these monitors in the suite.
00:06.880: So at 11
00:06.880: Yeah.
00:06.880: We've plugged the hell out of you, but you are on at Sam Messman on the Twitter.
00:06.880: All right.
00:06.960: If there's something I can do with it, please let me know.
00:06.960: Can it run out of like a Black Magic Switcher?
00:06.960: That's the CG three eighteen four K?
00:06.960: Yeah.
00:07.040: I'm not totally sure when we're going to do it, but I think we're shooting for Tuesday night or was it Monday night?
00:07.040: Because I think let's find a way to coordinate that a little bit.
00:07.040: So you don't think we're going to get Final Cut thirteen yet?
00:07.040: It is 10, even though there's an X in the title.
00:07.040: And you know, it's like
00:07.040: We're going to talk with the guys from TED Talk.
00:07.040: I know that essentially Isaac is largely the lead editor over there.
00:07.040: Okay, so we're going to stop the show because I've been getting emails from him this morning.
00:07.120: Now, just coincidentally,
00:07.120: So
00:07.120: Do you have.
00:07.120: So he comes from a music background and he actually is going to be using logic.
00:07.120: So, and let's say also that Philip was one of the people that you had in the suite last year.
00:07.120: No, I think it's going to be a blast, man.
00:07.200: Oh, yeah, it's really cool.
00:07.200: And, you know, for the people that do it.
00:07.200: Today's Tuesday.
00:07.200: I read his book when Final Cut 10 first came out, and like, I just sort of tossed it aside because I didn't get it.
00:07.200: I think you're going to like this one too.
00:07.200: Well, Sam, thanks for getting up early.
00:07.200: Let me double-check on the color finale.
00:07.280: So let's move on to Tuesday the 14th.
00:07.280: I responded to it.
00:07.280: All right, so that's
00:07.360: So I can't imagine this isn't great stuff.
00:07.360: I love doing stuff with Dave.
00:07.360: Yeah, so that's the other thing is like
00:07.360: That's all you do.
00:07.360: So we're going to be there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
00:07.360: I think we might be seeing Final Pet 13.
00:07.360: Like, bottom line is, details are being
00:07.360: So they have a lot of different things.
00:07.360: I think you can as well, Chris, is having, you know, so for instance, I work with Noah Kadner.
00:07.360: com, which, but it's also if you go to FCP Works slash NAB2015 and you scroll down to
00:07.360: I go, Try it.
00:07.360: You know, I've been talking to you for a while, and he
00:07.360: And it's it, well, here's the other thing, too: is like
00:07.440: We skipped eight and nine.
00:07.440: All right.
00:07.440: So this is going to be a great episode when you get to hear the other half of it.
00:07.440: You know, I didn't want to be that guy.
00:07.440: Later, later.
00:07.520: But if you can come live, come hang out in the suite live and see what we're doing.
00:07.520: So, guys, please come in.
00:07.520: Exactly.
00:07.520: It is actually.
00:07.520: Stay tuned on this page.
00:07.520: We would have loved that.
00:07.520: And so literally, there will be Black Magic Workflow in place.
00:07.520: It's the FCPX Gurus Party.
00:07.520: Just come and hang out.
00:07.520: Again, I'm like trying to, you know, maintain
00:07.520: I'll see you in Vegas.
00:07.600: And like, I think if you look at the sessions that we have
00:07.680: Yeah.
00:07.680: So, at any rate.
00:07.680: Which is a bit ironic because that isn't really listed as one of the sessions that you can attend.
00:07.680: And it's so flexible internally and they're cheap.
00:07.680: So if you're looking for a clean 4K ProRes workflow, the Scion
00:07.760: You know, I will say that just in doing this show,
00:07.760: And so
00:07.760: I believe that's when the AJA party is.
00:07.760: So this the and that's
00:07.840: So you're going to have to show me this because I'm using call recorder and I get a little bit of crunchiness on the guest voice.
00:07.840: I'm just counting the days, just whittling them off the calendar so we can get to Vegas and start doing some real work.
00:07.840: So
00:07.840: 5 back in the day, that was a big deal.
00:07.840: I will say, and I think this is fair game for me to say this publicly, that no, I'm not going to say that publicly.
00:07.840: You know, do you have backup to you?
00:07.840: So that's Tuesday morning.
00:07.920: And if you guys haven't figured this out yet, it's fcpworks.
00:07.920: Noah used to re do the feedback for them.
00:07.920: So you and Steve are going to hang out and talk about.
00:08.000: But down below there's on the top bar, it is.
00:08.000: 05, 10.
00:08.000: So, I mean, you know, the thing is, is the thing I truly admire about their process is that
00:08.000: And then we went and did it, you know, and now
00:08.000: There would be like, I mean, it would be absurd.
00:08.000: We'll be right on time.
00:08.000: I'm not.
00:08.000: So, like, I'm hoping that these sessions are as fun as they are educational.
00:08.080: I'm good.
00:08.080: And instead of just saying, well, why doesn't it have this?
00:08.080: Why not?
00:08.080: And it's just because I have had certain
00:08.080: And so bottom line is like if you are
00:08.080: But this new one was the one I was like, oh, this looks amazing.
00:08.080: And we're having a DCC meetup at midnight, Tuesday night.
00:08.080: And I'm
00:08.160: And I'll name names.
00:08.160: I go, Yeah, I'll be there.
00:08.160: And these are higher profile clients that do it professionally in the real world.
00:08.160: Cool.
00:08.240: At some point, we'll have a talk about call recorder.
00:08.240: Yeah.
00:08.240: So, Will Smith, focus.
00:08.240: Can you color grade something?
00:08.240: I can't do your video fix for you, you know?
00:08.240: And it's like, so it wouldn't surprise.
00:08.240: You'll love it.
00:08.240: I think there's a distinct possibility that at some point or another.
00:08.240: org.
00:08.240: I'm really looking forward to the scheduled lineup of events.
00:08.320: It's a great chat and tons of stuff.
00:08.320: You had to like meet at a certain lobby and somebody would come up to you and they'd go
00:08.320: Actually, I was chatting with Alex just off the record.
00:08.320: You know, people were like, oh, that ain't gonna last.
00:08.400: But anyway, so while we're recording this session, I actually have my phone propped up on against one of my monitors.
00:08.400: When you when they call you
00:08.400: So he's
00:08.400: Oh, I know we'll have a blast.
00:08.480: So I okay, really?
00:08.480: And then
00:08.560: No, for the cool people, you know, that expect streams.
00:08.560: Why can't we skip eleven and twelve?
00:08.560: What do you mean about do dictation?
00:08.560: Well that's the whole thing, you know, the Henry Ford saying, If I had given people what they wanted, they would have given them a faster horse.
00:08.560: com.
00:08.560: It's happening.
00:08.640: Sort of.
00:08.640: Yeah, and Mark is literally a rock star.
00:08.640: I know nothing about ISO monitors.
00:08.640: Okay.
00:08.720: Now I have actually previewed the piece and we're going to be using some pretty cool audio plugins.
00:08.720: But
00:08.720: Do you have help?
00:08.800: They put more Final Cuts 7 features in the Premiere Timeline.
00:08.800: No, it's mostly locked in.
00:08.800: They're awesome, and I want to give them their due.
00:08.800: And even before Final Cut 10, talking about AV Foundation, I was like, God, what a nerd.
00:08.880: And, you know, if you recall, last year, I actually cut a whole piece start to finish.
00:08.880: So anyway
00:08.880: And hopefully, we can get Isaac to
00:08.880: Maybe it'll get better.
00:08.880: So it'll be really great.
00:08.880: And I think I got it moked on it.
00:08.880: And honestly, I'm thrilled to have you involved too, because I think you bring sort of
00:08.960: 06, 10.
00:08.960: I think
00:09.040: And for us, it's like, well, what is really the purpose of that when
00:09.040: The truth of the matter is that
00:09.120: Very cool.
00:09.200: And I'm.
00:09.200: And I've mentioned this before on the show.
00:09.200: And
00:09.200: Cool.
00:09.200: Then now we're going to get into some more product stuff.
00:09.200: Very good.
00:09.200: Oh, no, you're doing that.
00:09.280: Let's put it that way.
00:09.280: Now, did Dragon change his name to Dragon because he was using Dragon footage?
00:09.280: Yeah, the secret Sam Esman.
00:09.360: So Meerkat's really cool.
00:09.360: Nope.
00:09.360: Yeah.
00:09.360: And what's nice about it and how it works with Color Finale is that.
00:09.360: Oh, here we go.
00:09.360: So I can speaking of being busy, I got to get to a session here at Slice.
00:09.440: Uh, how are my levels?
00:09.440: You're not saying that you're saying that.
00:09.440: So that's quantum.
00:09.520: So if you can't get to NAB, our intention.
00:09.520: Okay.
00:09.520: So for instance, there's some space Monday morning that we're still
00:09.520: Yeah, I mean, basically, it's like
00:09.520: And there's actually now two departments.
00:09.600: Well, you don't get to just
00:09.600: You said Apple will be giving.
00:09.600: Yeah.
00:09.600: Oh, it's some kind of thing.
00:09.600: I mean, at the end of the day, it's about what you can get done.
00:09.680: And
00:09.680: You're just coming in over HDMI, and it does 10 bit HDMI if you're coming from
00:09.680: So the CG277 is the one I'd recommend for you, Chris.
00:09.680: All right.
00:09.680: All right, later, later.
00:09.760: Do you want to get into this right now?
00:09.760: It drives me insane.
00:09.760: You and your guys.
00:09.760: The noise of the show floor.
00:09.760: No, it's not.
00:09.760: Is that correct?
00:09.760: There we go.
00:09.760: We did a presentation at the FCP Works launch way back when they
00:09.840: And again, this is just me speculating because we don't know anything.
00:09.840: And if you sign up for the FCP Works keynote, it's a safe bet.
00:09.840: Yeah.
00:09.840: Yeah, the
00:09.920: It takes the it uses.
00:09.920: 07.
00:09.920: He's been on The Grill.
00:09.920: And I think to be perfectly honest
00:09.920: And they go, noon.
00:09.920: It'll basically like
00:09.920: This one's like dear to my heart because I come from an indie background.
00:09.920: That's a tough call, but yeah, we definitely have some great ones.
00:10.000: Are you if you're a single guy,
00:10.080: Do you have assistance?
00:10.080: So that'll be fun to hear from Nick and hear about the workflow for that.
00:10.160: There's various things that like
00:10.160: Like totally out of the blue.
00:10.160: And it's the boring paint drying side of things that also
00:10.240: Definitely.
00:10.240: There's going to be
00:10.240: Okay.
00:10.240: Okay.
00:10.240: The other one, he actually reached out and I did a whole bunch of um
00:10.240: Yeah, that'd be definitely a lot of fun.
00:10.320: No, it's very funny.
00:10.320: Al was very vocal about saying
00:10.320: I don't understand the technical limitations of why
00:10.320: Oh, 27-inch.
00:10.320: Just because your name's not on there doesn't mean you're not going to be doing that with me.
00:10.400: So like if you think they're not listening, they're listening.
00:10.400: No, no, no, I am not saying that.
00:10.400: You know, we're going to post one of them.
00:10.400: Oh, oh, oh.
00:10.480: So if I can spell it once right.
00:10.480: So there's and those guys are heavy at NAB.
00:10.560: I just want to drop this little, I mean, and I'm just reading tea leaves here.
00:10.560: So Isaac has kind of has sort of taken over where Michael Glass was?
00:10.560: And then we're going to talk about, oh, this is a great episode.
00:10.560: We got 18 people just watching half of this conversation.
00:10.640: You know, 10.
00:10.640: Okay.
00:10.640: So how do people find out about We Make Movies again?
00:10.720: You know, one of the things
00:10.720: Why can't I use it?
00:10.720: So if you have a broadcast centric focus,
00:10.800: And the color finality is going to be a great way to demonstrate.
00:10.800: And you know what?
00:10.800: The workshops are
00:10.880: I forget the model number, but you know what?
00:10.880: You know, and it's 4K, obviously.
00:10.960: My uh, you're strong.
00:10.960: So we're actually very proud of
00:10.960: Okay, so that's that's
00:10.960: And I'm like, really noon or noon ish?
00:11.040: It's an iPhone app.
00:11.040: Yeah, you can do dictation.
00:11.040: And he actually got a package from Atomis just yesterday.
00:11.040: So both of those guys are clients.
00:11.120: Are you using Soundflower?
00:11.120: Definitely.
00:11.120: We were talking about some other business things that we were talking about.
00:11.120: Like this is probably how it's going to look.
00:11.120: Do you have people maybe just to answer the phone and like
00:11.120: Like he routinely sends me stuff.
00:11.200: So like every place
00:11.200: And so Mark has some notes on his presentation.
00:11.280: Anyway, let's talk about that another time.
00:11.280: And what if we got
00:11.280: Just like, here's a free battery.
00:11.360: And so.
00:11.440: On Monday, April thirteenth, we are going to see
00:11.440: We're still here.
00:11.520: I don't, you know, I don't use it, right?
00:11.520: It does video?
00:11.520: 1.
00:11.520: I truly believe.
00:11.600: So they're gonna be doing a presentation at one thirty Wednesday afternoon.
00:11.680: Oh, really?
00:11.680: It doesn't do the same thing.
00:11.680: And so on occasion,
00:11.680: I don't actually know when, but.
00:11.760: Oh, look at that.
00:11.760: What I'm saying is it worked.
00:11.760: So if we have Nick Rashby on the show.
00:11.840: Do not
00:11.840: So.
00:11.840: Dope.
00:11.840: So, you guys have a long-standing history.
00:11.840: So, like, exactly.
00:12.000: And then I record up here.
00:12.080: He's been on the
00:12.160: It has a yellow icon.
00:12.160: The question is just whether or not you choose to do so.
00:12.240: So it's the.
00:12.320: com.
00:12.320: Should have been.
00:12.320: Ask Doug DeVore about it.
00:12.400: But, like,
00:12.480: Anyway, I'm just frustrated 'cause I had a I had a
00:12.480: We're going to hit our times really, really crisp here.
00:12.560: Why the hell is there not a party for Final Cut 10?
00:12.640: I mean, is there like a desktop app?
00:12.720: Now
00:12.720: So I apologize that.
00:12.880: It's like, you know what?
00:12.880: It probably should have been because it was a good chat.
00:12.960: And I work with a guy who
00:12.960: Now
00:12.960: Good point.
00:12.960: So
00:13.120: And there was a private suite
00:13.120: Awesome.
00:13.120: I'm like, I didn't know I could do that.
00:13.200: So that's twenty fourteen.
00:13.280: Let me uh
00:13.280: So so
00:13.360: That seems to be important.
00:13.440: And I'm stoked about that.
00:13.520: Okay.
00:13.600: One,
00:13.680: Because, like,
00:13.760: I'd actually, yeah, pretty.
00:13.840: We also talk about
00:13.840: Okay.