Episode 112
FCG112 - Brand New to FCPX (feat. Erik Naso)
Brand new editor to FCPX, San Diego based Eric Naso is just getting started using Final Cut Pro X and is full of questions. In this episode we’ll discuss getting started with the software and go thru some of the basics of keywording and filtering and searching for clips and ways to make it easier for an FCP7 editor to wrap their head around a whole new workflow and why its worth giving it a try.
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- Chris Fenwick
- Erik Naso - @eriknaso
Transcription
00:00.001: Are you in a room with AC?
00:00.001: I shot it in 4K and I did all this stuff and incorporated that into a new promo and that footage looks amazing.
00:00.001: and they weren't going to go for it.
00:00.001: And start importing files, it's going to put those files inside the library file.
00:00.001: It's kind of cool.
00:00.001: Stupid.
00:00.080: Controls.
00:00.080: Just kind of describing.
00:00.080: That nasal guy is kind of dumb.
00:00.080: Stuff at the highest level.
00:00.160: You know, he he's an older guy like me, not as old as me, but uh, you know, he's got some uh he's got some history, some broadcast background and chops, and so um he comes to the digital cinematography
00:00.160: That's how you get to know Final Cut Pro.
00:00.160: And just got worked my way in.
00:00.160: And then I started experimenting with shooting and editing soundpieces.
00:00.160: in olden di days you could buy, you know, an Ikogami or a Sony or whatever, throw it on your shoulder, because yes, it was that big, and you could probably make money with that thing for six years.
00:00.160: That 50 megabits per second is awesome.
00:00.160: Yeah, I don't know.
00:00.160: But I've gotten to that comfort zone where I can take a camera, I can mess with it for a little while, and then I know what I want to do with it.
00:00.160: And I'll use it like I use the GH4 in 4K and shot some news promos for sweeps.
00:00.160: And it was fun.
00:00.160: Now at the station you guys are using, I've heard you talking about this, you're using Creative Cloud and Premiere at the station.
00:00.160: I we did the Avid Express Pro, horrible, ex horrible thing.
00:00.160: Hey, I got to close now because I just crashed.
00:00.160: But unfortunately, maybe let's go back a little bit.
00:00.160: It was very limited of what it could do, and I couldn't bring what I considered at the time beta software in a professional environment.
00:00.160: You know, what is it, two and a half hour movie or something to be able to manage that long format.
00:00.160: Yeah, I don't have to worry about that much data or being that organized.
00:00.160: put stuff in there.
00:00.160: Kind of, and I like I said, to a friend of mine, he asked me, Hey, how's it going?
00:00.160: Been real happy with them.
00:00.160: I'm gonna sell you.
00:00.160: They'll call Paul.
00:00.160: J main thing, make sure you're looking at tutorials that are current and not stale.
00:00.160: and I stared at it and I was just kind of surprised that it wasn't reading my mind because I thought it was a really new advanced app, man.
00:00.160: It didn't just start editing.
00:00.160: And I might get a phone call or somebody will yell from down the hall, Hey, your graphics are ready.
00:00.160: End up being on the exact same hard drive.
00:00.160: 10.
00:00.160: It just sounds retarded, I think.
00:00.160: Oh no, no, it was um Sam Messman, I believe.
00:00.160: Do you have a current machine?
00:00.160: I want to say it was like ten point zero six, zero seven, oh eight, something like that, where they moved like uh wholesale, they moved a whole bunch of stuff into the GPU.
00:00.160: Or you could say, Oh my god, the lens was dirty for the first half hour, select all those, delete those, whatever.
00:00.160: Clip because now I got to figure out which one of the takes is good.
00:00.160: And then I got down to the ho the to the driveway and I did a great pass around the front of the guy's car.
00:00.160: So let's say, let's go back to that jib shot, okay?
00:00.160: 231, 232, 234, 235, 6, 7, 8, and 9.
00:00.160: For Final Cuts ten, that's similar so that everything stays separate?
00:00.160: Hard try that.
00:00.160: is to have a separate job folder for every job.
00:00.160: Scripts and other documents.
00:00.160: Tutorial.
00:00.160: Those good words of wisdom.
00:00.160: And I think that some of the stuff that we talked about in this episode is very germane to somebody just getting started.
00:00.240: Before we start, I just want to say I just got back from Southern California and I was able to I was asked to
00:00.240: Works for the local NBC affiliate there.
00:00.240: And I also know that Michael Toe, who was on the show a few episodes again, he actually does I think he does some stuff for Peripherally.
00:00.240: He's like, Yeah, I'm going to start today.
00:00.240: Kind of that learning wall.
00:00.240: And Frederick had been using the application for I think a few weeks, done a few tutorials, and he had some sort of, you know, I need to get started questions.
00:00.240: The two pieces that I made for Gordon this week, they were both done with Dan Phillipson tracks.
00:00.240: keywording and filtering and searching and stuff like that.
00:00.240: NAB is coming, and I will be at the FCP Works demo suite, which is at the Renaissance Hotel.
00:00.240: As a listener of the grill.
00:00.240: Exactly.
00:00.240: But there's a really um powerful uh um gate on it that's gating out the A C when you're not talking.
00:00.240: Record himself, so I bought him this mic, and now I'm borrowing his mic from him a lot lately, so it's pretty funny.
00:00.240: I'm not the camera guy.
00:00.240: Twenty-five, going on more.
00:00.240: I didn't shoot.
00:00.240: I would not hit record because every time I was panning the shot over to take and then press the record button, they were like, it was like, oh, a swish pan.
00:00.240: in Oklahoma.
00:00.240: uh production guy, a D V, because you know what you need.
00:00.240: no idea what he was doing, but he was almo he was very rarely actually editing.
00:00.240: Yes, I do.
00:00.240: In the background.
00:00.240: It's we don't have a lot of the is a friend of mine, John DiTarcio.
00:00.240: And I was experimenting with the GH cameras from Panasonic.
00:00.240: We would use that.
00:00.240: like the y you're doing a like a lot of the promos and things like that and you're shooting with like the C three hundred, I believe?
00:00.240: I was shooting with the DVC Pro cameras for a long time here, and I never liked the look.
00:00.240: And that really does sort of explain how local television works.
00:00.240: So that was a that was like walking fast in the mud, and it was painful.
00:00.240: premiere and I don't know maybe more maybe larger markets are n using Avid still in news.
00:00.240: Teasing myself and you know, on online and social media about it for a few weeks, maybe even a month or so, actually.
00:00.240: I got to stop doing this, right?
00:00.240: But the point of this show is, in your personal life, you've been playing around with Final Cut 10, right?
00:00.240: And you know, we all know the you know with the pitchforks and the burning of the the steaks and all that fun stuff that happened.
00:00.240: We talk like that about cameras.
00:00.240: So that's kind of where we went.
00:00.240: Yeah, I pulled the trigger two days ago.
00:00.240: Cutting some promos that are due this week.
00:00.240: you know, brain drain it and just get it in my head and and play.
00:00.240: And they were asking me about something and they referred to something.
00:00.240: Okay.
00:00.240: one Premiere Pro and one After Effects.
00:00.240: What I would really recommend, and I'm not saying anything bad about Lynda.
00:00.240: To translate to, let's say, like Final Cut 7 language, it's kind of the combination of the project file that you would launch and the scratch disk all wrapped up in one.
00:00.240: But there are clearly some advantages, especially in what you will eventually possibly be doing, working in a shared environment like a news station, where you want to be able to draw assets from
00:00.240: And then I'm bringing my files or links to my files into my edit software, and then I start my editorial process.
00:00.240: Yeah, that's not good.
00:00.240: gets transcoded into the primary format, frame size and frame rate before you bring it into any edit system.
00:00.240: So he says, we're doing 1080p, we're doing ProResHQ, and everything will be transcoded outside of the application.
00:00.240: And then brought into the application.
00:00.240: And in Final Cut 10, there is actually a switch that allows you to turn off the transcode in the background feature.
00:00.240: All right.
00:00.240: Processor cycles when you could be doing something more important.
00:00.240: Alex Lindsay says, nope, transcode everything.
00:00.240: You know, in a sort of nerdy, egotistical way, we sort of revel in the complexity of what we do because we think it's going to separate us from amateurs.
00:00.240: Media on your drive.
00:00.240: It does a little bit, but not horribly so.
00:00.240: He says that Final Cat 10 works better on his 2013 iMac than it does on the Mac Pro.
00:00.240: if you can get a a modern machine.
00:00.240: graphics processing that like Premiere does.
00:00.240: I downloaded Final Cut quote 10 on this computer.
00:00.240: If you click on let me think, what do I want to click on over here?
00:00.240: Anything that you import at that point is in its default set is just going to go into the library file.
00:00.240: Oh my come back.
00:00.240: Now, when you start a library, it immediately will create an event.
00:00.240: Now inside your event, you can create keyword collections or folders.
00:00.240: Why can't I put my files there?
00:00.240: Card A, uh camera A card one, you could keyword it as interiors or exteriors.
00:00.240: In my browser, I'm only seeing the clips that were imported with that keyword collection, A1.
00:00.240: Is that there are three ways to limit what you are actually looking at in your browser?
00:00.240: little tool there.
00:00.240: Okay, by hitting the delete key, you are rejecting that shot.
00:00.240: You're just tagging it, if you will, as a rejected clip, okay?
00:00.240: Sifted through your media one additional way.
00:00.240: What you want to see is to do all the clips at once.
00:00.240: To star it.
00:00.240: Start the camera, and just for practicality's sakes, you might do, as is the case I know, with steady cams or gib shots, a lot of times you do really long takes.
00:00.240: Favoriting is extremely powerful.
00:00.240: So let's say you have your hundred clips and you've cut your whole thing of the mission, but the music is a little longer than you had planned on, and I've come up a little short.
00:00.240: Oh.
00:00.240: It's very possible.
00:00.240: Is there anything else around that time frame that's good?
00:00.240: So if it's Tom Smith and I go, oh, I got to go look at Tom's sound bites again.
00:00.240: But it gives you access to like the notes field, the time code start time, so if you want to sort by time code, whatever.
00:00.240: So at default right now, it wants to put my projects in this folder Movies, which I use very seldom because I don't like to save anything on my hard drive.
00:00.240: Okay.
00:00.240: And this was like now on my Meteorid, I have a scratch disk that's only for Premiere Pro.
00:00.240: A folder called media.
00:00.240: There's a thing called it says storage location modify settings.
00:00.240: And I store the media and the cache in that location.
00:00.240: Me and so that's a great episode.
00:00.240: I don't know if the term lean library shows up.
00:00.240: I think that is a good thing.
00:00.240: they want to try something new.
00:00.240: It's good to be able to have a conversation where you're not, somebody isn't like telling you you're an idiot for not using Avid.
00:00.240: And everybody's like, damn you, Apple, you don't know what you're doing.
00:00.240: So, thanks again for listening.
00:00.240: Well, be at the FCP Works booth at the Renaissance Hotel.
00:00.240: or beyond ten point one zero, ten point one one, ten point one two, your current version is ten point one four.
00:00.240: But Ripple Training is the only tutorials I ever bought.
00:00.240: Thanks for having me, Chris.
00:00.240: But I still think, and you know, we talked about it, Eric and I talked about it a little bit after we started recording.
00:00.320: put together a couple of videos to pay homage to my friend Gordon Fleming, who passed away last year.
00:00.320: Great episode, by the way, with Frederick.
00:00.320: Just oh, here it's episode 59.
00:00.320: And to be honest, one of them ended up being a tad short, and I had to loop a couple of bits just a touch.
00:00.320: and composers are much more in touch with their emotions and feelings than editors are, by and large.
00:00.320: And so I called him, or I tweeted him, whatever, and said, Hey, do you want to do this?
00:00.320: So, anyway, that's my little tip about editing to music.
00:00.320: Check out the website fcpworks.
00:00.320: And it's going to be awesome.
00:00.320: And it was like my goal there was I got to go to a place, I got to go to a shop that lets me control the entire thing that way, you know, by shooting and editing.
00:00.320: And so that's kind of the beginning, you know, and it's and it's I love editing.
00:00.320: In my edit suite that's driven by my MacBook Pro and cutting a story.
00:00.320: Like access to an edit suite, you had to know your chops just to be allowed in that room because nobody wanted to waste all that hardware on somebody who didn't who wasn't going to perform.
00:00.320: Oh, do you remember back when there was no nonlinear?
00:00.320: That were approximately the size of a frigidair, right?
00:00.320: So yeah, it's it's a different world and it's it's I always say there's no such thing as the good old days of television.
00:00.320: Oh, yeah.
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: Quality in our promos.
00:00.320: And so, like everybody in the world, when was playing with the 5D Mark II because it just opened up a whole new look for everyone, I really wanted to have that look.
00:00.320: And so my boss was like, Yeah, all right, you know, we'll see what see what it's like And they fell in love with it.
00:00.320: And so these these like I said, it's just these cameras and the technology and how easy it is and how easy it is to work in posts now.
00:00.320: We went to CS6 and we went to CS5 and then 5.
00:00.320: I still believe that and I've had huge conversations with people about this, that a lot of decisions in our industry are made out of fear and not logically.
00:00.320: And then the system crashes or it freezes and you and it doesn't save the last stuff you did.
00:00.320: this thing in the background happening with Final Cut 10.
00:00.320: So Premiere was probably the best choice for me.
00:00.320: Yes, that's really cool.
00:00.320: Now I'm seeing all this stuff and I'm thinking, you know what, Nacy, you got to try this.
00:00.320: Anything 0010209 whatever is a totally different workflow than 10.
00:00.320: Point two update changed things again, but it's oh great, now there's a phone ringing.
00:00.320: solve or as Scott Simmons likes to say, a workaround in the pre ten point one era, it made perfect sense.
00:00.320: I don't.
00:00.320: So, anyway, we don't want to go too deep into that.
00:00.320: Don't think you can open it and figure it out.
00:00.320: That's great.
00:00.320: What you got when we switched over to ten point the ten point one era as we got um what's called the library structure.
00:00.320: Various projects or have remote people be adding assets to a project.
00:00.320: you know, IT based workflow where I'm dealing with files as opposed to tape, the first thing I'm doing is I'm copying my files onto my drive.
00:00.320: It used to.
00:00.320: I have and we we do shoot a lot of DSLR.
00:00.320: Or was it three?
00:00.320: And this, as a professional, I know this goes against our grain, but try and imagine if you were going to invent
00:00.320: An edit system for your mom or your dad to use, how would you want to make it easier for them?
00:00.320: And if you think about it like that and then say, okay, then what is Final Cut 10 actually doing for me?
00:00.320: It's the best possible way to do it, I think.
00:00.320: even though it's still transcoding in the background.
00:00.320: When less stuff was on the GPU.
00:00.320: And again, this is interesting.
00:00.320: And again, if I right click on that and say reveal in finder, it will show me where that file actually lives on my in my finder.
00:00.320: 10 a folder on there.
00:00.320: 99% of the time, I only want one event per library.
00:00.320: Definitely benefit from the idea of having multiple events inside the library.
00:00.320: Files, you know, media files into this folder called the, you know, you create a folder called this is my media from card number one.
00:00.320: Now, one of the other things I tell people that are just getting started is if you just sort of kind of in your mind think of a keyword collection as being the same thing as a bin.
00:00.320: That's one of the easiest ways to get over the learning wall.
00:00.320: But if you just want to get started, here's a keyword collection.
00:00.320: And then import your footage from Camera A Card One into that keyword collection, and you'll be okay.
00:00.320: Those keyword collections are not bins.
00:00.320: When you sort of get over that learning wall and see that they're not really bins, they're keyword collections.
00:00.320: Candle shots.
00:00.320: Very quickly, and you, but you can, but if you think about it, well, the bell tower is an exterior shot.
00:00.320: You can assign that two different keywords to one clip, and it will quote unquote appear in both of those bins.
00:00.320: But there's two other ways to sift through the data, if you will.
00:00.320: You see where it says all clips?
00:00.320: Like, oh, here I'm on the jib, and I'm going to do five passes going over the hood of this guy's car, and one of those will be good.
00:00.320: You can now hit the letter R on your keyboard.
00:00.320: And so when I then pull my little pull down menu down and say just show me my favorites, it will only show me, take four of that long clip.
00:00.320: You couldn't drag a handle out past the beginning or end of the subclip.
00:00.320: And then I s I don't even score it like first off.
00:00.320: In there.
00:00.320: And it's gonna, and it's I'm gonna have one quote-unquote clip in my timeline that is takes one through three, and another clip in my timeline that is take five.
00:00.320: Browser in list mode, which you can do.
00:00.320: And the little find box up there works the same way that iTunes does.
00:00.320: I'll give you a great example where this works great when you're dealing with camera footage.
00:00.320: your tutorial about how to rename files from the A7S.
00:00.320: And now I have all the unused stuff of Tom in case I want to find, you know, fatten up the content a little more.
00:00.320: All right, so that's all about just filtering the data that's in your big giant data soup.
00:00.320: Change between looking at icon mode and looking at list mode.
00:00.320: It says untitled FCP bundle.
00:00.320: Ah, yeah, it's yeah, it's checked.
00:00.320: Well, when I have it, did you do git info while you had that bundle selected?
00:00.320: Okay.
00:00.320: camera footage, audio files, graphic files, animation files, you know, things like that.
00:00.320: Yeah.
00:00.320: Does that make sense?
00:00.320: Done.
00:00.320: And it's pretty straightforward.
00:00.320: But if you click on that, and then in the far right side of the user interface bar that goes across the center of the screen, there's a little button that looks like two little sliders.
00:00.320: Looks like a viewer.
00:00.320: And what you'll see is that the media and the cache are stored in the library, and the backups are stored in Final Cut backups.
00:00.320: A combination of the Final Cut 7 project file and the scratch disk, it now becomes very much like the old project file was.
00:00.320: Because what you benefit from that is what we call the lean library approach.
00:00.320: It means everything is safe.
00:00.320: Then fine, learn how to do this, modify settings, pick a different location.
00:00.320: And you could call that anything.
00:00.320: In its default setting, we will make Final Cut 10 drop dead simple to use, and it is by making the library file be the combo project slash scratch disk
00:00.320: is is stored or or hosted, I'll say.
00:00.320: But you I think I don't actually let me just do this right here.
00:00.320: People like yourself or Frederick who are literally just getting started.
00:00.320: Okay, cool.
00:00.320: But I've had, you know, Michael Matzdorf, I have people that have done music videos, at every level, every level, and including, you know,
00:00.320: And you know, yeah, that's pretty much it.
00:00.320: But look me up on Facebook at EricNaso.
00:00.320: I'm also very interested to hear, after you've messed with the software for a while, if you actually use the well, I think in final here, I'll look at it, they call it the event
00:00.320: And it is my experience that nobody uses it.
00:00.320: and uh been learning the wrong version.
00:00.320: And come by, say hi.
00:00.400: And to remember you.
00:00.400: One hundred and twelve of the Grill, Funnel Cut Grill, with Eric Naso.
00:00.400: The what I would call the younger generation who just grabs a 5D and goes to town.
00:00.400: we we destro not destroy, but we tamper with the the growth of a track and the way it evolves.
00:00.400: And quite often my first no, not quite often, my first desire as an editor is to leave the track alone.
00:00.400: But um so tell me a little bit about your background and uh um I I know you know w we have some similarities coming from a broadcast background.
00:00.400: probably driven through there once.
00:00.400: Edited the pieces.
00:00.400: Yeah, it's color and it moves, it's perfect.
00:00.400: So, um and and obviously Premiere is premiere in 2015 or 14, whatever.
00:00.400: Of you know, kind of seven fallen sorry, ten falling on its face so early on in the game.
00:00.400: You're going to be in trouble.
00:00.400: um, purely time line stuff.
00:00.400: Okay.
00:00.400: And various types of horses, and then getting in a car for the first time, it's much different than a horse.
00:00.400: And the library file, which is, if you're looking at it, it looks like a purple Windows logo.
00:00.400: an external media storage location that's separate from the library location.
00:00.400: Now, I I thought in the past that everything that came into Final Cup pro is it 10 or X?
00:00.400: Preference Final Cut 10 Preferences screen, there is a little checkbox that says Transcode My Media.
00:00.400: Great read, by the way, Richard.
00:00.400: And if you look at that, if you start importing a bunch of camera footage, that file is going to get really big really quick.
00:00.400: Work that way if you want, but we won't get into that at this point.
00:00.400: Per library.
00:00.400: A clip into multiple bins or keyword collections.
00:00.400: So for example, I was looking at your Nebula demo video at the mission, right?
00:00.400: Does that make sense?
00:00.400: So let's again, let's go back to your mission video with the nebula, okay?
00:00.400: Two favorites in my browser, but just marking the in and outs of the good parts I actually really liked.
00:00.400: And down at the bottom of the library list, right above the gray bar that goes all the way across the screen, there are two little icons.
00:00.400: How now I guess it's probably pretty simple.
00:00.400: Quit it?
00:00.400: Okay.
00:00.400: And speaking of as I'm doing, probably make a new folder?
00:00.400: Okay, so then now that you have that there, let me just, I'm double-checking something.
00:00.400: Final Cut 10 saves media with absolute file pathways.
00:00.400: It will if you had imported a bunch of media into that library, it would be saying, Hey, I'm looking at Eric's hard drive slash movies slash untitled dot fcp bundle and um
00:00.400: would transcode camera originals, where it would create proxy files.
00:00.400: We talk about the library, Ben Broadback 104 folder aliasing, John Davidson.
00:00.400: No, I I think it's great.
00:00.400: And you know what?
00:00.480: uh world with a different um with a different uh with a a yeah just a different viewpoint than just you know
00:00.480: Let the music speak for itself.
00:00.480: On the emotions that are in the track.
00:00.480: And also, I want to say, and I'm sorry this is kind of dragging on before we get to the interview, keep in mind, it's like five, six, seven weeks away, whatever, it's not too far away.
00:00.480: All right.
00:00.480: You know, they shoot and cut, shoot and cut.
00:00.480: And uh the guy spent half of his time with his little uh what's got exalite greenie in his hand, going over to the decks and adjusting and twiddling things.
00:00.480: And then because I I shoot sound here.
00:00.480: Nobody's going to get fired for saying, oh, we should go to Creative Cloud.
00:00.480: You know, and so if you're worried about saying, Hey, let's do it, I want to try this thing, and you're worried about getting your ass fired, and
00:00.480: Anyway, so that's kind of why we, you know, we moved to the Premier side.
00:00.480: and maybe do one by transcoding and one by not.
00:00.480: And and to be clear, nobody actually says that out loud.
00:00.480: a network.
00:00.480: So, one of the big stumbling blocks for somebody getting started is saying, why can't I just put files in this folder?
00:00.480: You know, in the yeah, I really like the idea of favorites.
00:00.480: Go back to the original.
00:00.480: Nice.
00:00.480: Well, what have I not used?
00:00.480: Let's say you start labeling things.
00:00.480: really quickly to see, oh, did I do another take of that?
00:00.480: One allows you to sort the data in the library in by content created, data imported, it's the little gear.
00:00.480: I'll have to go back and look, but there are many discussions that we've had on this show about some more advanced ways of dealing with storage locations.
00:00.480: And if you if you click that, you're at your um um uh what do they call that window?
00:00.480: And putting it in the library, again, a safe way to work, a sort of
00:00.480: I'm not going to go there.
00:00.480: I love tutorials and all that fun stuff.
00:00.560: And uh it was a honor to be able to do what I do and do what we did together.
00:00.560: Professionally, it was the height of my career, I think.
00:00.560: And to watch them play to an audience where they were so warmly received was an enormous honor.
00:00.560: It was kind of a cop-out because I had somebody cancel on me at the last minute and I wanted to have an episode.
00:00.560: the the tough period during the recession when basically T V stations were laying everybody off, not buying new cameras.
00:00.560: I believe the people at Apple say 10.
00:00.560: Well, that saves a lot of space.
00:00.560: it will at first it will make temporary links to that media.
00:00.560: That makes sense.
00:00.560: system is that you can store that library file on any drive, any volume, any RAID that you want, as long as it is locally attached.
00:00.560: Arrayed, and then I have a library file inside each one of those folders, and that library is for that job.
00:00.560: Now hit the letter F.
00:00.560: Now when I show unused, it's going to take the remaining portions of that long jib clip.
00:00.560: So those are very important.
00:00.560: Okay.
00:00.560: Yeah, it's showing it on the top.
00:00.560: Okay, and then it'll probably open up Final Cut.
00:00.560: And what I'm going to do, I won't go into all the details.
00:00.560: If you click on the library over there that you can, by the way, rename from within Final Cut Pro, and it will actually change the library file name out in the finder.
00:00.560: With the new storage location that you assign through the storage location properties being basically the equivalent of the old scratch disk.
00:00.560: There's a great episode with Frederick Van Johnson about, I don't know, five, ten, fifteen episodes ago where we basically did a similar thing where he was just getting started.
00:00.560: You know, I had Michael Matzdorf on the show, who was the assistant editor on Focus.
00:00.560: Ericneso.
00:00.560: The event oh no, the ev uh the event viewer.
00:00.640: That it had to be because Gordon is not with us anymore.
00:00.640: Please go listen to episode 56.
00:00.640: Anyway, Eric's a great guy.
00:00.640: That people do is if you're trying to evoke an emotion, leave the track alone.
00:00.640: Yeah, I started actually as a photojournalist.
00:00.640: So that's when I got the C three hundred.
00:00.640: In a year, you're going to go right down the middle of the road.
00:00.640: Because you're at a really good point here.
00:00.640: And sometimes I think I am possibly a little bit insensitive to people that are on machines that are four or more years old.
00:00.640: And so, and that's all stuff.
00:00.640: You see that?
00:00.640: Okay.
00:00.640: Nice.
00:00.640: And you're you're going through the footage and go, Oh, I really like the shot to to number 237
00:00.640: You know, whatever your prefix is, you know, like nebula underscore two three.
00:00.640: I do a lot of corporate interview type things where we might interview 20 different people.
00:00.640: Let's set this thing up right.
00:00.640: Okay.
00:00.640: And then from your media drive, double-click on the library that you just moved over there.
00:00.640: But if you look in there, you have the library selected on the far left, and you click on that little pop-out window, the library property properties window, the library properties.
00:00.640: So the backups are like your old Final Cut 7 backup project files.
00:00.640: All right.
00:00.720: That was awesome.
00:00.720: Yeah.
00:00.720: So what you want to do is you want to learn how to deal with that.
00:00.720: And it dawned on me as I was prepping for this job, why is that switch there if it has to be transcoded?
00:00.720: All of the footage for and I and I imported 1.
00:00.720: it's usually it usually kind of helps you.
00:00.720: Using the letter F, and when I sort by favorites, that one clip will show up as
00:00.720: Can you repeat that first part?
00:00.720: My first Final Cup X tutorial to really visualize it.
00:00.720: has benefit to certain types of people.
00:00.800: Where I started.
00:00.800: nowadays we can just basically edit on our iPhone.
00:00.800: So doing like, you know, two two parts, you know, with sound and video separate and syncing and post, and I just didn't want to do it.
00:00.800: I don't know, 'cause I don't deal with them.
00:00.800: application.
00:00.800: I think what we should probably do in this little chat is maybe go through some of the setup features and how
00:00.800: You want to absolutely make sure that the tutorials that you're watching are based on Final Cut 10.
00:00.800: Alex Lindsay is an interesting cat.
00:00.800: It's a 4K camera.
00:00.800: processes were increasing by something ridiculous, like twenty five hundred percent in speed.
00:00.800: And again, that might be a great way to work.
00:00.800: But not like across an Ethernet network on another drive.
00:00.800: To start, just imagine that they're a bin, and it'll get you very far.
00:00.800: The third way that you can sift through your data on the far right-hand side of the browser window, not of the whole user interface, is a little find box like iTunes has.
00:00.800: What I would do now is when that library is there, go back to your movies folder and delete that one.
00:00.800: And I think you have to have the right attitude when you're jumping in.
00:00.800: That's probably, I don't want to stress myself out and try to actually deliver something yet.
00:00.880: And you know, it does all the the the camera reviews and the sliders and all that stuff, but uh great content, very well respected guy.
00:00.880: To listen to.
00:00.880: Well, it's a pr it's I don't I'm not in news, I'm in a production bay, but there's a bunch of stuff in here.
00:00.880: Your phone can ring.
00:00.880: Hey, this is a day off for you, right?
00:00.880: But part of the, and I apologize, Linda, part of the problem with Linda is the vastness of it also means that they might have some old stuff.
00:00.880: We are 55 minutes into this interview, and you asked me about file structure.
00:00.880: And I'm ass and I don't think you have anything in it.
00:00.880: There's no stuff there.
00:00.880: I happen to know, I'm just going to say I happen to know that Apple used to deal with a lot of tech problems with people losing their storage location.
00:00.960: What?
00:00.960: Is that and that's a full-time thing?
00:00.960: I had the 96 frames per second and we were dropping, you know, it was a credit card thing.
00:00.960: Okay, so in the default what I like to call soccer dad mode, if you just start a new library
00:00.960: A lot of the processes in Final Cut 10 are handled by the GPU.
00:00.960: So it's not a subclip.
00:00.960: So it's the unused portions.
00:00.960: Where you can actually type in the name of something.
00:00.960: I think the important thing to do in a nutshell is decide a way to work and continue to work that way.
00:00.960: And that may not be the best term.
00:01.040: And there's other it's funny because actually I bought this mic for my son because he likes to play guitar and
00:01.040: No problem.
00:01.040: And I was going to download it on this machine at work yesterday, but I got challenged with this green screen shoot because, you know, no green screen shoot is really ever easy, and I had some lighting issues.
00:01.040: Maybe it doesn't do this anymore, but it would convert everything transcode in the background to ProRes.
00:01.040: version, was it 10, 10, 2?
00:01.040: Uh-oh, I burned one side.
00:01.120: And they would use it.
00:01.120: Within three months, you're obsolete.
00:01.120: And so, you know, and then, but it does what it does to me is it makes me want to try something different.
00:01.120: But I opened it up and I put a few clips from uh a project, a personal project that I had.
00:01.120: That Quattro 4000 in here.
00:01.120: And even in Premiere, I would just go through my footage and start putting in and out points and then go to the next one.
00:01.120: And then once it's in the timeline, I could hit unused and then I could see what clips are not in the timeline.
00:01.120: Of the media that you've imported.
00:01.120: Just quit it.
00:01.120: It just called it untitled.
00:01.120: That makes sense.
00:01.200: And this is just me talking about editing to music.
00:01.200: And I just constantly applying myself.
00:01.200: And I keep hearing that.
00:01.200: And I'm not going to do that.
00:01.200: With the library file being the storage location, is it means that automatically you're going to have two copies of your media
00:01.200: I can't remember.
00:01.200: That's no good.
00:01.200: I'll say that one more time.
00:01.280: All right.
00:01.280: I like to think of it as like the IBM of edit systems, edit platforms, because
00:01.280: So I had to find something because seven was driving me crazy.
00:01.280: I'm like baked bread that just came out of the oven.
00:01.280: You could do a whole keyword of statues.
00:01.280: Now, this is a little bit different than old Final Cut 7, where you sub-clipped.
00:01.280: And it's actually, again, Eric, it's even more, it's more important than that.
00:01.280: I'll turn it off and then find tricks with Chris Fenwick.
00:01.280: Yeah, it's a little viewer.
00:01.280: Well, you know, I'm going to I'm excited to use it in the weekend.
00:01.280: That's awesome.
00:01.360: I learned how not to shoot slop.
00:01.360: Absolutely.
00:01.360: So, um, so from an editorial thing, now are you working at the NBC affiliate in San Diego, correct?
00:01.360: And then, you know, eventually we were actually renting.
00:01.360: And the important thing is to realize that it's kind of like the difference between learning to ride a horse
00:01.360: Richard Taylor just posted a blog entry this morning on his website about Funnel Cut 10, and it was like twenty different things that could be causing your system to slow down.
00:01.360: I don't think we were allowed to say the name focus, but that's what we were talking about, people because the press had not come out about the movie yet.
00:01.360: It's good.
00:01.440: I totally understand.
00:01.440: So let's say you bring in a hundred clips and you start stepping through them and you go, Ugh, I've shot my foot.
00:01.440: Yo, favorite that, favorite that, favorite that.
00:01.440: That's going to save me a ton of time.
00:01.520: And I said, and they never used your good stuff, right?
00:01.520: Because it's not a good thing.
00:01.520: Because Final Cut 10 is very modern software.
00:01.520: I'll call it again, I call it the soccer dad way of working.
00:01.520: And now you only have to deal with the magnetic timeline, so you're going to have a lot of fun.
00:01.520: That's weird.
00:01.600: I explain it to them.
00:01.600: There's no such thing as a perfect camera.
00:01.600: That thing can't handle that much media and in keeping it all organized.
00:01.600: So I tend to lean on them for tutorials and stuff like that.
00:01.600: Again, another way to sift through your data.
00:01.600: Yeah, stupid.
00:01.600: I also have a folder called original where I take everything that was created that was given to me by a client and I put those original documents in there.
00:01.600: You can mess around with that.
00:01.600: You have a wonderful weekend.
00:01.680: Okay, the third way that you can sift through your data, and again, Final Cut 10 is a database of your imagery.
00:01.680: You could call it scratch disk if you want.
00:01.680: The library model.
00:01.680: And I apologize too that I'm not more advanced, but maybe that kind of sh shows that I think there's a lot of people that are probably in my situation where they
00:01.680: And this is not that jump in not with no knowledge kind of a system.
00:01.680: I look forward to seeing all of you, hopefully, at NAB in a few weeks.
00:01.760: Sorry, but you should have a new machine.
00:01.760: Okay.
00:01.840: So, hey, welcome to the show.
00:01.840: If you've listened to any of the shows, I don't know.
00:01.840: You know, and maybe even more.
00:01.840: Now, coming to today, I'm seeing a lot of my friends, and I'm hearing, and I'm reading, and they're happy with 10.
00:01.840: I mean, they what this last movie, Focus, completely edited on Final Cut 10.
00:01.840: If you don't know that and you start learning some like one of the tutorials goes into the making a sparse disk trick, which was really a great
00:01.840: Yeah, and that's kind of it's obviously redundant.
00:01.840: So at that point, what I would do if I were you is in that job folder, I would create.
00:01.920: And if you know people that are just getting started, send them to this episode.
00:01.920: So, anyway, let's go to the interview now with Eric Neso down in San Diego and let's hear what it's like to be a brand new editor to Final Cut 10.
00:01.920: I don't know.
00:01.920: I really loved Final Cut 7.
00:01.920: I'm sorry.
00:01.920: It saves a lot of space.
00:01.920: Well, i i only if that's where your library is stored.
00:01.920: And if you find yourself creating multiple events, figure out how you did it.
00:01.920: Yeah, yeah.
00:01.920: Let's put it on my Media Raid.
00:01.920: com, that's E-R-I-K, the other Eric.
00:02.000: I'm not going to guarantee you that someone's not going to bust into my Edibay and tell me that, hey, I need to make an update on a graphic.
00:02.000: That sounds like something I could do.
00:02.000: That's too expensive for me.
00:02.000: Ripple Training is the only tutorials I've ever bought specifically.
00:02.080: And it's no big deal to like install an edit application on your laptop and say, Oh, look, I'm sitting on the plane cutting or I'm sitting
00:02.080: So, here, like for example, I'm looking at the lynda.
00:02.080: So it's not even like it's a safety thing.
00:02.080: It's I mean, it's only like 156 kilobyte file.
00:02.080: Don't touch.
00:02.160: I went ahead and I did it.
00:02.160: Yeah, it says hide rejected import video, nothing loaded.
00:02.160: And actually, I'm going to caveat that by saying I'm pretty sure what I just said is right.
00:02.160: Get info.
00:02.160: I would drag my camera media into that folder, and that's where I would, and once the copy is over, that's where I would import my media from.
00:02.160: And again, from the beginning standpoint, you go, damn you, Apple, why didn't you just leave well enough alone?
00:02.240: And I would like to ask people to go back and listen to episode 56.
00:02.240: He's kind of a camera nerd.
00:02.240: So check that out.
00:02.240: Once you're in, you know, you got to get in full on.
00:02.240: Exactly.
00:02.240: You're just working for me right now.
00:02.240: But I think I think um if quite often on the show I talk about the the learning wall as opposed to the learning curve with Final Cut Ten, and you're at the point where you're gonna start hitting your forehead on the learning wall.
00:02.240: I think Alex is a bit extreme in that standard.
00:02.240: Chris Fenwick says, eh.
00:02.240: And again, this is in the default settings.
00:02.240: Okay, quit.
00:02.240: No, I'm kidding.
00:02.320: I hate counting backwards.
00:02.320: And I experimented a little bit with the 5D Mark II, and I found it kind of frustrating to work with
00:02.320: I know you're going to do some tutorials, and that's great.
00:02.320: Both Final Cut 10 tutorials are 10.
00:02.320: So we benefit from all of the upgrades that have happened prior to this day, right now.
00:02.320: Because it doesn't work that way.
00:02.320: So, the difference with a favorite is it really is just marked in and out.
00:02.320: You can go I have a Facebook page too.
00:02.320: Look forward to it.
00:02.400: I'm in an edit bay.
00:02.400: Maybe even more.
00:02.400: But but man, I mean, cameras are so good now.
00:02.400: And that's the kind of stuff you want to hear because that's the kind of application you want to know you can use.
00:02.400: So you know what?
00:02.400: So that's great advice, because you won't.
00:02.400: We just bought one of those.
00:02.400: And even Richard Taylor was saying on his I believe it was in six core Mac Pro, like a two thousand nine pre trash can.
00:02.400: At work here, I mean, this year, next year, we're going to move over to the new Mac Pros.
00:02.400: I was thinking maybe if I just made of like a FCPX folder and then inside that folder is all the individual projects.
00:02.400: It's a big file.
00:02.400: You got to branch out, spread your wings, try new things.
00:02.480: How horrible is that, right?
00:02.480: Okay, so if you are a client of Slice Editorial and you're trying to call the office right now, I'm really sorry because I'm not going to answer it.
00:02.480: So, yeah, I was never a fan of subclipping.
00:02.480: You're not professional, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:02.560: He was a great friend and he died way too early.
00:02.560: I'm not going to try to figure it out.
00:02.560: 2012.
00:02.560: Yeah.
00:02.560: That sounds very that's powerful organization.
00:02.560: It's not called a viewer.
00:02.560: See, now we're still going to be thinking about it because I asked you.
00:02.560: Let's wrap it up with that.
00:02.560: I bought it when PhoneCut 10 first came out.
00:02.640: Now, I've done this on other episodes.
00:02.640: 59 is another good one for somebody who's just getting started.
00:02.640: com.
00:02.640: And what I would recommend is you look at that.
00:02.640: So now what you've done is you've done a ranged base selection or a favorite.
00:02.640: So go to all clips and show me.
00:02.640: Uh it should be unchecked.
00:02.640: And I came up with it a few months ago, and I rethink it every day.
00:02.640: You might want to listen to that one, okay.
00:02.640: But definitely listen to the episode with Frederick Van Johnson.
00:02.640: So, the rest of my day is fixing my own bad lighting on a green screen.
00:02.720: I didn't ask him what the call letters are.
00:02.720: It would just be like, no, that's not a swish pan.
00:02.720: Yes, it is.
00:02.720: It also saves a lot of time.
00:02.720: And then what it does is sort of magically in the background, little elves are changing all the file formats and doesn't slow it down.
00:02.720: I mean, we don't even need to discuss that.
00:02.720: And basically, you go find the folder where all the stuff should be and say, Yeah, it's here.
00:02.800: The anus of California.
00:02.800: Because that means I'm fighting a key today.
00:02.800: As a matter of fact, if you look at your list there, or excuse me, your
00:02.800: So, what I would do, take that library and drag it over to your media drive.
00:02.800: fcp bundle.
00:02.800: You too.
00:02.880: Where I started, it was three one-inch machines.
00:02.880: I completely agree.
00:02.880: Now, I mentioned earlier I was going to tell you how to do the I think by default it sorts by icon mode
00:02.960: You can learn all about the different sessions that we're going to be doing there.
00:02.960: Well, this is interesting.
00:02.960: I was hoping yesterday, actually, that I was going to be able to do some tutorials and just kind of get through the whole interface and learn how to
00:02.960: And again, professionals, somebody said I think it was a was it Alex Golner online said something about
00:02.960: So it's like a six core Intel Xeon.
00:02.960: I did not know that you were so fresh to it, but I think this is interesting.
00:02.960: Pull down menu.
00:02.960: If and this is probably the first question s an answer that everybody needs is to where to put your media, right?
00:03.040: I know it's funny.
00:03.040: And this is why.
00:03.040: So, so in the in your library, in the upper left-hand corner, you have again the little purple Windows logo, as I call it, the library file.
00:03.040: We decided clip four or take four was the best, and that was what we favorited, and that's what we put into the timeline.
00:03.040: So ten point one, ten point two is what I need to look for.
00:03.120: But specs don't really matter in local television, at least here.
00:03.120: You have this experience, and you're editing, and you're just stressed out of your brain because you got to get this thing done.
00:03.120: It's like, and that's very encouraging.
00:03.120: Right.
00:03.120: If it's there's some there's some stipulation about that.
00:03.120: Yeah, what I would exactly, what I would do and and in my workflow, I have a separate folder for every project, and they they those folders live on
00:03.120: Okay, and then, so let me think, what else is there in that pull-down?
00:03.120: So now you're out at your Finder.
00:03.200: Let it grow and develop the way the composer did, because 99% of the time, the composer is going to have a better grasp
00:03.200: Thanks for being a part of the grill here.
00:03.200: Yeah, yeah, it's the cable companies, you know, those discovery channels and all that.
00:03.200: Professional is just a euphemism for complicated.
00:03.200: Inside that job folder is a library file, and then there is a folder structure for all of my types of media that I use in that job.
00:03.200: I think people know.
00:03.280: So I brought that in, I started using it, and wow, like I did I actually I told him, look, I wanted to try this, you know
00:03.280: It's OS 10.
00:03.280: Not entirely.
00:03.280: Now the reason it's called uh um dot fcp bundle is under names and name and extensions, there's a little checkbox called hide extension.
00:03.280: Cool.
00:03.280: Take care.
00:03.280: We'll be back next week with another episode of The Grill.
00:03.360: You know, I don't it's great for just B-roll, but when you need sound, then you're starting to and our stuff is kind of quick turn.
00:03.360: And when it comes to the organizational structure, you can quote unquote put
00:03.360: And so, if that were the case, what you would need to do is you select the library, go file, relink files.
00:03.360: com.
00:03.440: If you haven't seen his website, EricNaso.
00:03.440: Totally agree.
00:03.440: Yeah.
00:03.440: And you would walk into the two-deck bay and it had all these things, mixers.
00:03.440: I mean, I was just like, you know, very, very pleased with that.
00:03.440: There's no such thing as really perfect anything.
00:03.440: Did we have the 5D Mark III yet?
00:03.440: That's your range-based, or you could just use I and O, and you can mark the beginning and end of the good take.
00:03.440: And it's the same thing when I'm building, like, say, that nebula thing, I shot a bunch of stuff, a bunch of stuff.
00:03.440: I just throw my favorite shots on the timeline and it's some similar type of sequence that I'm probably going to use.
00:03.440: So, how would I go about doing that?
00:03.520: And some of the and we touch a little bit on the library stuff.
00:03.520: That was my first job, and that was well over 20 plus years.
00:03.520: I know.
00:03.520: Okay, so it seems really cool.
00:03.520: It's funny because I have the same problem with AJA.
00:03.520: But in our world, we two and a half years ago, I did a job where, because of time constraints, I didn't even have time to transcode everything.
00:03.520: What is it called?
00:03.520: It could be a very big file.
00:03.520: Erica, if people want to follow your blog and you on Twitter and Facebook and stuff, how do they find you?
00:03.520: Make sure you check out their website to find out exactly what we're talking about and all the details.
00:03.600: I'm like, oh, really?
00:03.600: Like if I shot, if I didn't have the camera locked down with the perfect shot.
00:03.600: This is, it's time.
00:03.600: And now all I have to do is learn how to use it.
00:03.600: Oh, compelling radio people digital cinema cafe Search for the word library maybe
00:03.600: So I think the conversation does help.
00:03.680: So, at any rate, that's the interview with Eric today.
00:03.680: Ah, yeah, okay.
00:03.680: And you're like, good luck with that.
00:03.680: Now, before we get into taking apart the library file, I want to finish this transcode stuff that we were just talking about.
00:03.680: Exactly right.
00:03.680: Oh, okay.
00:03.680: If I take my, you know, make it like an FCP10 folder inside my Meteoraid, and then just put everything in there, individual projects in that folder.
00:03.680: And there are plenty of people that are trying to get over that learning wall that could very easily get held up.
00:03.760: And we still use it.
00:03.760: Okay?
00:03.840: And so this is me kind of setting Eric straight right from the get-go.
00:03.840: Let's get, and thank you, Premium Beat, great curated music.
00:03.840: It blows me away what we can do now.
00:03.840: And really, that depends on the complexity of what you are actually doing and the power of your machine.
00:03.840: You could do a keyword of the bell tower.
00:03.840: Now, here again is something that's immensely powerful.
00:03.840: But let's say you're shuttling through your footage, right?
00:03.840: I'll show you how to do that in a second.
00:03.840: Big fan of learning.
00:03.920: Well, if you're in an area where you don't have the crossover.
00:03.920: So and I will say that one of the things that I have been, I'll say, blessed with is the fact that I work at a place where we do buy new machines.
00:03.920: I actually use the term FCPX created
00:03.920: I don't know anybody who actually uses it.
00:04.000: I was a National Press Photographers Association fan for a long time, and I learned a lot from them, went to their workshop.
00:04.000: And editing became a big, big part of my experience in news.
00:04.000: I said, Well, I really like how fast the scrubbing feature is.
00:04.000: And then there it goes.
00:04.000: You you had called it the preview monitor before.
00:04.000: Bye-bye.
00:04.080: It was so not ready, I couldn't bring that app into my station.
00:04.080: I did an app joke on my Facebook page.
00:04.080: And if you have an old machine and you don't have enough VRAM, you don't have enough system RAM.
00:04.080: And frankly, if you'd like, we could do a whole nother show about just this.
00:04.160: It was the best choice.
00:04.160: Okay.
00:04.160: Final Cut is going to manage everything for you.
00:04.160: Until you start to change it, you'll hit import, and in the import window, or excuse me, in the import
00:04.160: But let's say you're looking at your files and you've numbered them sequentially from 001 to 999.
00:04.160: Let's see here.
00:04.160: So this is really kind of overkill to do it this way.
00:04.160: I and I really am enjoying Facebook because the conversations are longer and Twitter's fun for quick stuff.
00:04.240: He goes, Yeah, sure, we'll do it.
00:04.240: So you go out and you basically shot your brains out all day long.
00:04.240: Pretty much, right, yeah.
00:04.240: We also have some of the A7Ss and we have we just bought the new Sony, what is it, F7, FS7, something like that.
00:04.240: Even if it is, quote unquote, doing it in the background, it's still wasting time.
00:04.240: But I don't think that Final Cut 10 or X is not going to use any of that kind of
00:04.240: Not entirely.
00:04.240: Do Command I for import, and you get that import window.
00:04.240: It's a folder.
00:04.240: So let's say and I'm not a camera guy, so bear with me.
00:04.240: No, but you can rewind this podcast and listen to the whole thing.
00:04.240: Um but um I just realized when I say the letters F C P X I say X.
00:04.240: Yeah, so FC Funnel Cut Grill Number 25
00:04.320: And I started renting the C100.
00:04.320: I thought you had done, I probably should have done more pre-production for this.
00:04.320: And the problem is that in most people's situation, those two copies
00:04.320: It's all part of how Final Content works really fast today.
00:04.320: Well, let's back up before we put all the ingredients in the oven because there's a few things we still want to do.
00:04.320: So yeah, it's not just the unused clip, it's the unused portion.
00:04.320: Yeah.
00:04.320: I have always said that these conversations are at all levels.
00:04.320: We have a good time on there because I like to throw out some questions or I'll put some pictures up and we and the conversations are good.
00:04.320: I can deal with two different editors.
00:04.400: Yeah, actually, it kind of sounds like an edit bay.
00:04.400: So I was we were dropping credit cards over the lens and it was it was cool, right?
00:04.400: Have you decided what you're going to do?
00:04.400: com website and under editor's picks, there are two Final Cut 10 tutorials.
00:04.400: You're not throwing it away.
00:04.400: I don't know why it resonates so well with me, but favoriting in Final Cut 10 and range-based
00:04.400: I know, right?
00:04.400: No.
00:04.400: You don't want to jump into anything kind of being skeptical, I don't think.
00:04.480: I'm just an editor.
00:04.480: Oh man, always.
00:04.480: And frankly, the things were so damn expensive, you had to run them for six to eight years to pay for them and actually make a profit.
00:04.480: Now if you choose to transcode and you let the application do it, it really is the best of
00:04.480: Call it A1 for card A, card camera A card one.
00:04.480: Well, um or does it like to use the entire individual
00:04.480: I could talk for hours just on that.
00:04.560: And I've actually been experimenting with that lately.
00:04.560: If you're doing film and big projects, you're doing Avid.
00:04.560: I don't, I don't, I guess some people say OS X
00:04.560: Go into your home folder and your movies folder, and in there is your library file.
00:04.560: I looked at it and I was like, oh, this sucks.
00:04.640: I firmly believe that musicians
00:04.640: But yeah, I started at I started as a photo journalist.
00:04.640: That's me actually focusing and panning the camera while I was recording.
00:04.640: One of the things I had a discussion with somebody recently about Linda
00:04.640: If you're looking at the browser in the upper left-hand corner, it probably says all clips with a little pull-down menu.
00:04.640: Eclipse.
00:04.640: I didn't get it at all.
00:04.640: I got a lot of stuff going on.
00:04.720: And say hi.
00:04.720: It's a great camera.
00:04.720: I had a Lynda subscription for a long time, and there's a lot of good stuff there.
00:04.720: Now I don't have to look at the ones I didn't want to look at.
00:04.720: See that?
00:04.720: Um, and I don't know if the phrase, I'm now thinking about how horrible my metadata is on the podcast.
00:04.800: I've always thought that every editor should go shoot one story a year and every shooter should go and cut one of their stories a year.
00:04.800: And then you could say, Oh, here I am.
00:04.800: Okay.
00:04.800: No, no, no.
00:04.800: Okay.
00:04.800: Just make sure you watch the fresh ones.
00:04.880: And that was it.
00:04.880: 5 and then we moved to CS6 and then we just, I mean, I think it's only been maybe less than a year that we actually got on the Creative Cloud.
00:04.880: It wasn't probably Avid was too expensive.
00:04.880: Because if that drive goes down, hey, I lost my primary and my backup.
00:04.880: So let's say you start keywording things.
00:04.880: Right?
00:04.880: Oh, nice.
00:04.880: I can sort by Tom, and then I can filter by unused.
00:04.880: It calls it an untitled FCP dot bundle?
00:04.880: Right, right, right.
00:04.880: The attributes?
00:04.960: Um I'm sure that's somebody knows.
00:04.960: So this might be a little premature.
00:04.960: You said something on your blog about wow, the camera technology is moving so fast these days.
00:04.960: 0.
00:04.960: And in most, I don't know what your workflow is, but when I work with any sort of.
00:04.960: If it doesn't need to be transcoded, why bother?
00:04.960: Yeah.
00:04.960: Right off the bat.
00:04.960: If you go to digitalcinemacafe.
00:04.960: I firmly believe that every one of these conversations
00:05.040: Eric is a San Diego-based cinematographer.
00:05.040: And quite often we'll like, oh, I can just stretch, I can pull that, I can fix that, I can di di d d.
00:05.040: Like, it's not a waste of time.
00:05.040: It's like Rubik's Cube, and they're all black.
00:05.040: Final Cut 10 is very much um very much benefits from a good GPU.
00:05.040: Hey, can I go backwards one second?
00:05.040: What I would do, here's what I would do: make a folder on your media drive called Eric's FCPX practice or something like that.
00:05.040: But at least it's safe.
00:05.040: Well, no, I always call it FCPX Grill.
00:05.120: You know, recently we had on episode 101, I had Frederick Van Johnson.
00:05.120: He he had this thing where he was talking about production at the speed of news.
00:05.120: He wants his, in Alex's world, absolutely everything.
00:05.120: 2 terabytes of H.
00:05.120: But one very high up on his list is
00:05.120: I know.
00:05.120: Okay.
00:05.200: As a matter of fact, there was an upgrade, I believe.
00:05.200: So from save you time later, right?
00:05.200: The other thing is, let's say you have a really long steady cam shot, and it was great walking through the doorway, and then I tripped on the third step.
00:05.200: I think you'll enjoy that.
00:05.280: But great interview.
00:05.280: And it's just they they I I don't want to just use one camera.
00:05.280: And to be honest with you, it's been a good experience.
00:05.280: Now, you're hampering yourself because keyword collections are much more powerful than a bin.
00:05.280: It was, yeah, it was just like a new clip.
00:05.280: I'm a big fan of that.
00:05.360: And I was able to really put my heart into a couple of pieces that meant more to me than everything else I've ever done combined.
00:05.360: But we're just thinking it, okay?
00:05.360: Training wheels here, training wheels.
00:05.360: Now, the favorites work the opposite of rejected.
00:05.360: And so you started at 237, and right now, boom, I have like all the shots right around that shot.
00:05.360: No, it's tiny 'cause you haven't imported anything.
00:05.360: I think it's.
00:05.360: Now, had you had a bunch of media in there, Eric, Final Cut, here's an important thing to remember.
00:05.440: It looks like they give you a lot of opportunity to do
00:05.440: And anything 10.
00:05.440: The folder structure is for organizing your keyword collections.
00:05.440: Okay, that was good.
00:05.440: Oh, I like that.
00:05.440: There's also a notes column.
00:05.520: Just that sucks.
00:05.520: 9.
00:05.520: But that's not the case anymore either.
00:05.520: And there are whole discussions I've had on other episodes about how you can.
00:05.520: Remember, sub-clip?
00:05.520: As I start to type, it filters, filters, filters the list of stuff in the database.
00:05.520: So let's say, and I saw on your blog, you had your
00:05.520: And
00:05.600: Anyway, thank you for letting me be personal once in a while.
00:05.600: com.
00:05.600: I mean, look, I work in the 15 and 30-second world.
00:05.600: And I think that because that's a big one that everyone's telling me this is that just
00:05.600: So you'll be able to see it and cut it immediately
00:05.600: So go to the little find box and type in
00:05.680: It's really a big it makes you a better shooter, a better
00:05.680: We were just outgrowing it.
00:05.680: You just want to get as close as possible.
00:05.680: And it it works pretty well with the CUDA card with Premiere because
00:05.680: And the proper way of saying it is: I can assign many keywords to a clip.
00:05.680: I'm not sure Avid can do as much m different than what I can do in Premiere, where this is very different.
00:05.760: And I totally embrace technology.
00:05.760: So, um, so how about if do you have uh funnel cut on a machine right there with you?
00:05.760: I don't know.
00:05.760: I like the eh.
00:05.760: Okay.
00:05.760: And there has been much talk about this, and I will say that
00:05.760: List mode feels very much like, well, I mean, icon and list mode is the same as most edit systems.
00:05.760: And now at that point, you're ready to start importing your files.
00:05.840: And as it turns out, and I didn't realize this, I thought he'd been using it for a few weeks.
00:05.840: Like that was it.
00:05.840: When Final Cut seven was just I was growing out of it, the station was growing out of it.
00:05.840: And when I took a look at it, I was like, oh no, no, no.
00:05.840: Okay?
00:05.840: The problem is the only thing that you can put in a folder is a keyword collection.
00:05.840: You know?
00:05.840: Okay, this is the we're going to learn a couple of things here.
00:05.840: And in my world, I create a folder inside my job folder that sits right next to my library file.
00:05.840: So Final Cut Grill one twelve is going to be a good one for anybody just getting started with the software.
00:05.920: But you know, I mean, when we were starting, to be able to get
00:06.000: Love you, Gordon.
00:06.000: I have other settings on here.
00:06.000: Right.
00:06.000: But when you're dealing with long format, right, I'm sure you do a lot of that kind of stuff and you your app's got to kick ass or else
00:06.000: It's like, is it Aja or AJA?
00:06.000: And I am now looking at it right now.
00:06.000: Yes, it is, but you don't have to limit it to just the bell tower or just the exterior.
00:06.000: You're not making the media go away.
00:06.000: So I can look at, oh, unused
00:06.000: Everybody's going to be like, God, man, that.
00:06.000: In a shared environment, you probably need to store that media in a different location.
00:06.000: And same thing with Twitter.
00:06.080: There's like three computers, you know how it goes.
00:06.080: And you know what?
00:06.080: It gives us a it gives us what we need and it's damn easy to edit.
00:06.080: And I will tell you, for the last two and a half years,
00:06.080: So the dot, and so click on it and do get info.
00:06.080: And he, you know, he's talking about.
00:06.080: But I definitely want to watch at least an hour of, you know.
00:06.080: And I will say that the stuff that Ripple Training has, they have updated stuff since ten point one, and I and I'm a big huge fan of Ripple Training.
00:06.080: All right.
00:06.160: But the funny thing about working in that market is that the reporters
00:06.160: A refrigerator from your kitchen.
00:06.160: Okay, so the first thing is the keyword collection.
00:06.160: I don't do it.
00:06.160: Every project, all the video, all the every project goes into that.
00:06.160: Later, later.
00:06.240: Hey, thanks for having me.
00:06.240: We don't have that awesome time span that you get when you're working in a bigger environment, production environment.
00:06.240: And we had an underpowered computer, which made it even more fun with no RAID drives or anything.
00:06.240: So when we got to Final Cuts Pro 7 and when we finally switched over from PCs to Macs
00:06.240: You don't even want to watch those.
00:06.240: If it's a a SAN, I think you can.
00:06.240: I also have a folder for
00:06.240: And then they said, okay, fine, here's the event viewer.
00:06.320: Yeah.
00:06.320: I well, you know, I've been
00:06.320: And he's been able to put things into
00:06.320: But I'll tell you that for starters, just worry about creating one event.
00:06.320: Oh, I'm going to subclip.
00:06.400: And I love Dan.
00:06.400: I mean, I could use a GoPro or a GH4 or anything.
00:06.400: Right now, it's safe.
00:06.400: And, you know, and then there was a lot of the anger and
00:06.400: You can one of the nice things about the library
00:06.400: I'm shooting the chip chart again.
00:06.400: So and the find box, as you start applying more metadata to your footage, becomes really powerful.
00:06.480: And you know what?
00:06.480: And then there was a great opportunity.
00:06.480: Yeah.
00:06.480: Uh I was playing with the Nebula four thousand little hand held gimbal and so I had some really nice GH4 footage.
00:06.480: You know, why can't I drag
00:06.480: I'm very interested to see if you actually use it.
00:06.560: And then I bring it to the station.
00:06.560: But again, I just haven't done it yet, but I'm super excited about it.
00:06.560: 0, you really want to just turn it off and ignore that.
00:06.640: I'm sorry, Eric, I think I'm pronouncing that right, NASO.
00:06.640: Now, what was interesting is there's been a lot of buzz on the Twitter about Eric Neso's using Final Cut 10.
00:06.640: So 59, 101, 112.
00:06.640: And I don't want to go too deep in it.
00:06.640: And I always thought, wow, I think we could just do something more interesting.
00:06.640: That's impressive.
00:06.640: So, let's walk through it, and you can.
00:06.640: So, what it will do is it will look at the media that's in your media folder.
00:06.640: Now, there's some really good reasons why that's not necessarily the best way to work, and there are some workflows that
00:06.640: I can favorite multiple portions of a shot.
00:06.640: Absolutely.
00:06.640: It's funny.
00:06.640: Click on that.
00:06.640: If you know what you're doing and you're a pro.
00:06.640: And I stopped using it for a year before I picked it up again.
00:06.640: So I hope that works out okay for you.
00:06.720: If you come by, I will be there.
00:06.720: But it was a small market.
00:06.720: It was game over.
00:06.720: They were still doing the hardware stuff.
00:06.720: Man, NAB, remember that year?
00:06.720: And because I would just say, for a beginner, one event per library.
00:06.720: I'm sorry.
00:06.720: And just as long as it's not a waste of time.
00:06.800: And I got to be able to play around and post with 4K footage and re you know, re actually reframing was a very powerful thing.
00:06.800: And it's okay, you know, to try something different if it's going to work.
00:06.800: I have an a lynda.
00:06.800: So the important thing is to remember is where do you want to actually store your media.
00:06.800: I know that's a stupid question.
00:06.800: I like that a lot because.
00:06.800: Okay?
00:06.800: com, that's where both the podcast Digital Cinema Cafe and FCPX grill.
00:06.800: I have some fun stuff coming up that maybe I can kind of get my feet wet with this thing with no time limits.
00:06.880: But I've always been like, oh, there's Eric again.
00:06.880: I don't re I don't really know.
00:06.880: So
00:06.880: That's where you'd have to do sub it.
00:06.880: I never do it.
00:06.880: It doesn't do anything other than it remembers that that clip has an in and out point.
00:06.880: I think it's
00:06.960: My um main staple camera is the C three hundred.
00:06.960: I opened up the app.
00:06.960: Okay, so like I'm sitting in the edit suite
00:06.960: And that's not the end of the world.
00:06.960: It doesn't matter.
00:06.960: Right.
00:06.960: A portion of the clip.
00:06.960: The uh
00:07.040: There's another episode that I did quite some time ago, and it was kind of a
00:07.040: So if you're new to Final Cut, episode one twelve is going to be a good one.
00:07.040: It's all funnel cut all day.
00:07.040: 2645D Mark III footage over the course of two weeks, and I transcoded none of it, and I had no problems whatsoever.
00:07.040: So what I would recommend you do is that you give it a try with the footage that you're using.
00:07.040: Okay?
00:07.040: And if you want to, you can type in notes about all your stuff.
00:07.040: Now it's going to filter your data down to be two three o
00:07.120: Yeah.
00:07.120: I think it's going to be, I think it is time to try it.
00:07.120: 1
00:07.120: Well, no, it actually can be the case, and there are many people that swear.
00:07.120: Yeah, yeah.
00:07.120: In your mind, go ahead and just say it's a bin.
00:07.120: I hope you don't think this was a waste of time.
00:07.120: So we'll see.
00:07.120: I'm really a visual person.
00:07.200: Oh, yeah, that's going into like movies.
00:07.200: And then that way you can organize like shots.
00:07.200: Oh, totally.
00:07.200: Correct.
00:07.200: Yeah, it's I mean, I guess it defaulted, but it's checked.
00:07.200: Yeah.
00:07.280: Um
00:07.280: Now, you know, in the sort of, we'll call it the sort of new school, you know, DSLR kids.
00:07.280: Yeah, we were a Final Cut 7 station for a long time.
00:07.280: But there was a time when.
00:07.280: Nice.
00:07.280: I did again, I had a Lynda account for about a year.
00:07.360: He was tuning.
00:07.360: You want to get the job done.
00:07.360: 1 because 10.
00:07.360: Okay?
00:07.360: So and one of the best ways of learning how the application is thinking
00:07.360: Again.
00:07.440: I also want to thank the people at Premium Beat.
00:07.440: It sounds like a news edit bay.
00:07.440: The other thing to keep in mind as you're looking for and sorting data.
00:07.440: And the lean library means that that library file is not
00:07.440: It's ten point one
00:07.520: This is what you learn, though.
00:07.520: They got all these crazy specs you have to deal with.
00:07.520: Yeah.
00:07.520: I can't really complain too much.
00:07.520: Yeah, that was just released yesterday on Apple's website two days ago on Apple's website, the whole write up about it.
00:07.520: But once you figure out the whole pedal thing and the steering wheel, you're going to love it.
00:07.520: The library file
00:07.520: I like that.
00:07.520: So you could keyword everything as mission.
00:07.520: But to start,
00:07.520: I'm just, you know, if you would mental it anything.
00:07.600: And
00:07.600: And now I can't find it.
00:07.600: So, Eric, I've been following you on Twitter for a long, long time.
00:07.600: And then we went to the cloud.
00:07.600: All the colors are black.
00:07.600: At any rate, you can hide or show that ex that.
00:07.600: I actually just call it the Grill.
00:07.600: It's at Eric Naso.
00:07.600: Yeah, and that was a good point because I would have dived into Linda probably late this afternoon.
00:07.680: And the first market I worked in was Bakersfield, California.
00:07.680: Yeah, things have changed so much and it's funny how
00:07.680: But we weren't using that camera anymore.
00:07.680: And that is the interesting thing because
00:07.680: If you're doing quick turnaround, corporate or news, it seems, you know
00:07.680: And then, and so, of course, I'll take a picture of it and I'll put it on Twitter and I'll go rant, rant, rant, rant, rant.
00:07.680: Shuttle, shuttle.
00:07.680: The problem with a sub-clip is once you mark the subclip, correct me if I'm wrong, as I remember it.
00:07.680: Yeah.
00:07.760: But basically, what we do in this episode is I walk him through.
00:07.760: You were shooting with a three-quarter-inch camera and I never used the good stuff.
00:07.760: I haven't really tried it yet.
00:07.760: Okay, let me launch it too, and we can walk through a couple of things that will help you out.
00:07.760: So just to the right of where it says libraries in the upper left-hand corner of the window.
00:07.760: So that's actually a very powerful
00:07.760: And I always keyword that stuff based on the person's name.
00:07.760: My preferred work method.
00:07.760: Search through that folder.
00:07.760: I'm drawing a blank.
00:07.840: And you know, every every time and it
00:07.840: And then you get or you get the warning from Premier that says
00:07.840: So I just turned it off.
00:07.840: It doesn't matter.
00:07.840: So so what Final Cut 10 will do if you choose to transcode is you will have one folder of all of your
00:07.840: Here now, I have a mid twenty ten
00:07.840: Hit the delete key.
00:07.920: So from an organizational standpoint, you're going to say you have the potential of saving a ton of time
00:07.920: Delete, delete.
00:07.920: That's pretty cool.
00:07.920: And the media and the cache is where Final Cut
00:08.000: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08.000: We're good.
00:08.000: Ten's grown into a true professional.
00:08.000: So
00:08.000: I thought you had actually cut a few things in it.
00:08.000: No, it's actually a really good question.
00:08.000: So, um
00:08.000: So those are now your rejected clips.
00:08.000: Well, I don't want to star the whole
00:08.080: And we talk a lot about
00:08.080: When that is the case, what I recommend
00:08.080: It was KERO actually is where it was.
00:08.080: Aja?
00:08.080: Exactly.
00:08.080: And so a lot of times, you know, we kind of
00:08.080: And again, this keeps an individual job completely self-contained.
00:08.080: I know.
00:08.080: We talk about the library.
00:08.160: And I miss you, Gordon.
00:08.160: That's about all I got right now.
00:08.240: I love the emotions that Dan puts across in the tracks.
00:08.240: It's kind of like a little project that I'm working on
00:08.240: So that's really the reason why we went to Premier was because
00:08.240: Let me ask you something about that.
00:08.240: If you change your mind, you want to stretch it out a few frames or seconds or minutes, all that media is still available.
00:08.240: I got like you were.
00:08.240: I think you kind of got to jump into stuff and feel like, yeah, this is going to work and you just want to know how to make it work.
00:08.320: I can't remember exactly.
00:08.320: Wow, yeah, that was crazy.
00:08.320: It's the same kind of file.
00:08.320: And they're not really bins, they're keyword collections.
00:08.320: Any media that Final Cut X creates will go in that storage location.
00:08.400: I will give you a hint as an editor.
00:08.400: It sounds good.
00:08.400: He was doing something.
00:08.400: And so I would just bring my stuff in and
00:08.400: So now you have a meteor rate.
00:08.400: I might say stuff that sounds stupid.
00:08.400: But
00:08.400: I love it.
00:08.480: Why not?
00:08.560: Okay?
00:08.560: So you got favorites, rejected, unused, no ratings.
00:08.560: Yep.
00:08.640: Actually, it's kind of interesting.
00:08.640: com account and
00:08.640: Yeah, yeah, that's not good.
00:08.640: Oh, take four was the one.
00:08.640: I just got my first tutorial.
00:08.640: I enjoyed this conversation.
00:08.640: You kind of got to get your arms around it a little bit.
00:08.720: You want it to look good and you don't want to lose too much sleep over it.
00:08.720: You could do a whole keyword for
00:08.720: I don't need to look at that until I need to color, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:08.720: Yeah.
00:08.800: And that will explain a lot more.
00:08.800: It was not ready.
00:08.800: So, again, there's two camps there.
00:08.800: Whatever.
00:08.880: Share what's on my heart.
00:08.880: So you look around and go, wow, this is
00:08.880: 0
00:08.880: It's a safe way to work because everything is self-contained.
00:08.880: AJA?
00:08.880: Right.
00:08.880: You know that it's in the movies folder, so quit Final Cut Pro.
00:08.880: I'll be interested to see if you actually end up using it.
00:08.960: We can buy a camera.
00:08.960: That one that will work for a feature film is impressive.
00:08.960: Anything that I star, and how do you star something?
00:08.960: Okay?
00:09.040: It sounds good.
00:09.040: It's one of those things, if you don't embrace all these new things,
00:09.040: And you know, it's just dang, it's exciting.
00:09.040: And then it goes, Oh, yeah, I got it.
00:09.040: But in our office, we call that FCPX created.
00:09.040: There are people.
00:09.040: That'll be fun.
00:09.120: And thank you for all the support for this last year.
00:09.120: But it was a great experience, and actually, I grew a lot there.
00:09.120: We don't
00:09.120: When did you go to it took a while?
00:09.120: Just drag it to the trash.
00:09.120: It's a very interesting history around the event viewer.
00:09.200: Nothing's perfect.
00:09.200: I've been I'm still kind of
00:09.200: It's a total waste in a in a ten point one and beyond.
00:09.200: I never know what to say anyway.
00:09.200: And that's why I'm doing this now because I don't think it's a waste of time.
00:09.280: Make sure you introduce yourself.
00:09.280: No, I don't see Avid in my future at all.
00:09.360: You didn't hit you didn't hit record.
00:09.360: So I I had an AF one hundred
00:09.360: You know what, Chris?
00:09.360: You cannot install across
00:09.360: But it all goes as
00:09.360: Ah, damn you, Apple.
00:09.360: Again, I was a bit shocked that Eric had not quite started working with the software.
00:09.440: There there seemed to be a bit of a connection there.
00:09.440: Okay.
00:09.440: That information is very stale.
00:09.440: So if I click on A1,
00:09.440: Yeah, so if you search for the word library, it pops up a lot.
00:09.520: It's a good thing.
00:09.520: Yeah.
00:09.520: And you know, and then I shot with the A7S when I got the Odyssey 7Q.
00:09.520: Oh, yeah.
00:09.520: And then the other two icons
00:09.520: Meaning
00:09.600: And I hate the fact
00:09.600: And a lot of times when we do that,
00:09.600: And in today's day and age, I think about 60% of the people say 10.
00:09.600: And what you find is that, and I've
00:09.600: That'll be fun.
00:09.680: Okay, I'd leave it.
00:09.680: And you know, we were renting cameras 'cause at the time, you know, this was during the
00:09.680: But these days, I don't even know if they're that stringent anymore because.
00:09.680: I like using a bunch of stuff and I kind of like experiment a lot at work.
00:09.680: I needed a preview monitor, could it wasn't capable of doing that at the time.
00:09.760: I turned down the level a little bit.
00:09.760: And I was just kind of reviewing stuff on your blog and stuff this morning.
00:09.760: And I like that a lot about the files that it creates.
00:09.760: Just as long as it looks good, they don't, you know, they don't care.
00:09.840: I don't know what uh if it's the Yeti doing it.
00:09.840: Is there kind of a file structure that I should be doing for
00:09.920: Now, where you're going to find that you're going to benefit from this is that
00:10.000: What camera do you want?
00:10.000: So.
00:10.000: Sorry.
00:10.080: I just know I need to carve a few hours out, you know, just really
00:10.080: So that's probably would want to move everything to a new final cut.
00:10.160: And I was doing 5D Mark II footage back then.
00:10.160: Yeah.
00:10.160: But but let's say you like you take your nebula and you like
00:10.160: Well, there's four icons.
00:10.240: And in some ways, it was a good thing because
00:10.320: And that was my first job.
00:10.320: And you know, how it kind of evolved was uh
00:10.320: I could uncheck it
00:10.320: Don't empty the trash yet.
00:10.320: Never mind.
00:10.400: This is episode
00:10.400: But and so
00:10.400: So.
00:10.400: There's totally two camps there.
00:10.400: And frankly,
00:10.400: Yeah, it remembers that it's an in and out point, but still in the
00:10.480: As we were talking.
00:10.480: That's fine.
00:10.480: You could keyword it as
00:10.560: I wanted to have that filmic
00:10.560: This is awesome.
00:10.640: Unless, of course, you're talking about
00:10.640: He had actually spent about three or four days with it and then had a bunch of questions for me.
00:10.720: We got tired of like transcoding and there was
00:10.720: All right, Eric.
00:10.880: So, um
00:10.880: Anyway, no, when you bring stuff in
00:10.880: So the theory was
00:10.960: That has only been like about two years.
00:11.040: I want to tell you that
00:11.040: And with Final Cut 10, this is a really big deal.
00:11.040: And if you pull down to hide rejected, you have now
00:11.040: Change.
00:11.120: And everyone that lives in California has
00:11.120: It is
00:11.120: So if you go to
00:11.200: Oh, man.
00:11.200: And there were some people that were reporting that certain
00:11.280: Is that better?
00:11.280: I'm thrilled.
00:11.360: Before that,
00:11.360: Okay.
00:11.360: Have a great day.
00:11.440: One will hide your library.
00:11.520: And, you know,
00:11.520: Just move it to the trash.
00:11.520: When Apple when Final Cut 10 first came out, Apple did not have it.
00:11.600: And then
00:11.600: Yeah.
00:11.760: I started off as an intern sort of thing.
00:11.760: This is all going to just basically show you.
00:11.840: That's a great question to ask me.
00:11.920: That was episode 109.
00:11.920: And actually, you know what?
00:11.920: I think this app is ready for me.
00:12.000: It's a great time to be alive.
00:12.000: fcp bundle extension by using that thing.
00:12.000: Thanks for chatting.
00:12.080: Okay.
00:12.080: Yeah, that's what I would do.
00:12.240: Oh, you hit the letter F.
00:12.320: Uh yeah, that's fine.
00:12.320: But.
00:12.400: And frankly, the ten point one
00:12.480: And I threw that into into a bin and
00:12.480: Now, um
00:12.560: You got to get him on the show.
00:12.640: It's a broadcast standard.
00:12.640: The other problem with using
00:12.640: I'll experiment with some things, but.
00:12.720: And I think that sounds a little bit nuts.
00:12.800: There's a great tutorial if you want.
00:12.800: So
00:13.200: Okay.
00:13.360: That's what I would do.
00:13.600: I say
00:13.760: I totally agree.
00:13.840: So.
00:14.080: And